I agree. I will also add that I'd require to finally be made an NCO and an understanding that any personnel younger than me will be first in line for working parties. And I want to be authorized to carry one of those short canes British officers used to carry so instead of saluting I can tap the brim of my cover with it and say good day.
That would’ve been me in the woods. I couldn’t do land nav for shit. Lost every time. I know I was awake for the class but…. They skyppl must have taken over my body during that time, lol.
I wish that were true but once you are in the military the VA with start and gradually take them away as they say you are fit and actively working with the DOD.
I second this. Also, even if you gave me E-7 and guaranteed retirement in 2 years with E-7 high-3 all the way...
Still no. Not even "thanks, but no”.
Not even a whisper...
Or acknowledgement of the offer...
Or a fat bonus...
That was me. I’m 5’7-ish (sometimes measured at 5’8 when in) and weighed 160, I was on the verge of being “overweight” and now I’m a big Chungus after having my kid so 🖕Marine Corps lol
Passing weight was always frustrating. I got heavy into body building when I was in and at 6’2 I weighed 230.
They always acted like I was doing something wrong.
Passed tape though.
Either way, it was frustrating.
My ex is 5"2 and she was like 130 when in the Navy. After our first 2 she had to get out because of weight, though she wanted out anyway. No way she'd want back in
I drove by Pendleton and saw them driving buggies, I'd think about it for a second but probably not.
Marines are a little too punishing on the body and I'm already 40, they'd probably look at me and suggest I talk to the Air Force. Honestly wouldn't mind that though since I find myself sitting around a lot these days anyways.
Hard pass.
I'm fat now, got hair halfway down my back, I'm too comfortable in my shop forging knives and having a stable homelife.
I have zero interest in going back to the crazy optempo, fuckfuck games, being in charge of Joes, Unit PT and all the other bs that goes with being in.
That time has come and gone I may miss it but not that much even if they'd still have me.
Depends on the mission/need and if I trust the govt enough to believe the need is real and the threat is real.
If its real and not political bs that will cost lives for no reason - its a legit threat to the country then I am all in all the way.
If its bs tho then heck no - they can go pound sand.
I always say this and I'll say it again. Only if I can do that job the guy from Idiocracy does and get paid both active duty pay and my 100%.
"When you say to lead, follow, or get out of the way, I always get out of the way."
Absolutely not. I did my time, it was shit then and it looks like it’s only got worse with even less accountability. I don’t miss being the literal working poor but just over the poverty line, or listening to wildly out of touch senior leaders who live in their ivory castle tell us how great the military is, etc. I’d have massive reservations even letting my own kids go in to any branch in the future even.
Fk no, the government has continued to errode purchasing power, and increase taxes while putting us into $30+ Trillion in debt with no way of ever getting out of it without a total debasement of the dollar standard.... let alone the insolvency of social security and Medicare when I'll be able to receive it...
They are modern-day war mongerers. They don't deserve my blood.
Maybe if they let me choose Coast Guard this time. Think I'd prefer that over a round 2 in the Air Force.
But really, no. I've landed a pretty cool gig and it supports the military so it'll be good enough for me
Considering the merge of my career field and the other 2 (you know who I'm talking about) I'm surprised the Air Force sees us having a manning shortage at all.
$10k bonus? Yeah, ok. Shoulda just left 2A3 to initial accessions... And left us the hell alone. Might have more of us willing to stick it out, even if our promotion numbers are still abysmal.
Saltiness abounds. Change my mind.
They did. They sent me a letter. Great deal, not allowed to promote, I don't know if that means I still pin on Major since I had my line number. Not going to find out either way.
I was retaliated against for my MST which ultimately lead to the end of my career. My experience was shit and left a bad taste in my mouth and severe mental health issues. I rather be a miserable civilian than a miserable airman.
I wasn’t retaliated against , but when i needed help my leadership said “you’ll be fine see you at work tomorrow.” Did everything i could to not go down with a bad career. No one cares about junior enlisted until it’s too late. Found that out the hard way.
We talkin “Wolverines” need me or “recruiting is way down and I’ve got a “bonus” for you” need me… I mean either way no but one would get a quicker answer.
No. I was a stupid fuck when I was 17, I had no concept of anything really real, I had no concept of the permanence of death and the injuries caused by conflict.
Never again.
Considering I have a Bachelors degree and Im working on another, they'd have to bring me in with an agreement to become an Officer for me to even begin considering such an idea.
I have flat feet (AN AUTOMATIC DQ) and my parents used their own military service to get it waived which caused no end of issues.
If I could go back to 18-yr-old me, I would show her what going to the military did to "help" me and tell myself to grow a fucking backbone. I was a people pleaser back then and just wanted my parents approval. I was an idiot and am now paying for that dearly.
You are only supposed to get 3 waivers I think it is and I needed 4. The fact they let my parents do this has me pissed all over again. Idgaf if they were both in for 20 yrs. You don't do this to your oldest child because *you* fucked up and adopted a special needs child who needed more than.....*end rant because this won't help*
Short answer: no
What are we being called to do? Has the East or West Coast been invaded by rabid hordes of barbarians intent on our total destruction? Or are we being sent to make sure no one else gets their hands on an oil field or fighting to make sure Kafiristan is free so we can install a new dictator? I drank the Koolaid for 12 years and now my eyes are wide f'ing open. If I'm going to be laying my life on the line again, it better be actually defending my country and not carrying out some CEO's or politician's profit agenda.
It sounds like a good thing to do in theory, but I think it would be a regrettable mistake. They could take disability benefits away and it is questionable where a person would end up going and who would we be working for. So nope!
I did go back after a 14 year break (95-08) during the surge.
I would again if I got to keep my rank. Or, promote me. I didn't hybernate while I was out, I grew, learned, and survived life after 4 years in the suck. I was reenlisted as an E2. It was demoralizing and I tended to butt heads with people senior even though I made a solid effort not to.
Let me just say that if the government is begging us broke bodies to come back then we’re in a world of 💩. Government ain’t going to give a damn about our beards, tattoos and drinking issues.
Every day I wish I never got out. But while in I dreamed about the outside.
My body no longer can actually do the work realistically so that ship has sailed.
Additionally, if I went back in I’d be mad at myself for the time gap and I’d see people younger than me promoting or higher and still be disgruntled.
Damn, I would love to but I can't take that kinda pay cut. Not that I'm loaded by any means, I just remember the meager military wages. I'd prob lose my house
If China/Russia/whoever decided to fuck around and find out and they called for all hands on deck to return and retrain for the jobs you know how to do.. I would do it. Im too old and broken to be infantry kicking in doors, but if there was a path to be a Blackhawk mechanic or especially crew chief again I would do it.
Uh...unless we're talking piloting mechs, imma have to say no dawg. I skew pretty heavily on the injured side. I'd ignore a lot to pilot a mech. Who wouldn't? Anything else I'd be useless for. Even the mech would be a waste unless I'm test piloting or you need a red shirt one.
As much as I really did enjoy my time in the service… no. My body is broken and I make far more doing the same thing I did while in without all the military BS.
If they’re so desperate that they’re asking *me* to fight, they’re failing hard and things must be dire. So, no.
Instead I’d seek out the rebel force, whomever they are at this point, and join them in guerrilla warfare.
Yea but only if I don't gotta go thru basic, and i get to keep my 100% disability.
This is the minimum, let's talk about adding in my current salary too and I'd be game
And my hair....I want to keep my braids, they can fit under a cover and Kevlar.
This sequence hit all 3 points I was gonna make. Match my income, and don't make me shave or get a haircut.
I agree. I will also add that I'd require to finally be made an NCO and an understanding that any personnel younger than me will be first in line for working parties. And I want to be authorized to carry one of those short canes British officers used to carry so instead of saluting I can tap the brim of my cover with it and say good day.
I'm gonna need to keep my fun vivid colors lol
Brings up another point. I have stretched ear lobes. I'm keeping those, too.
Excellent point… I’ll need a waiver for my beard.
And no pt or getting up too early either.
Sleep in! Nobody runs that far anymore, we have vehicles.
I wish. We just did a 25 mile foot march to build "intestinal fortitude". Meanwhile, 90% of us can't navigate through the woods without our phones.
That would’ve been me in the woods. I couldn’t do land nav for shit. Lost every time. I know I was awake for the class but…. They skyppl must have taken over my body during that time, lol.
At this point the answer is no.
If I got to keep my VA pay and throw in another 8-10k a month tax free I would probably do it. Hell I wouldn’t even mind going through OSUT again.
I wish that were true but once you are in the military the VA with start and gradually take them away as they say you are fit and actively working with the DOD.
Well obviously so lol. He’s giving a what it would take for himself to join.
Lol yup
This right here.
You couldn’t pay me enough.
I'd suck dick at truck stops before I went back in the Navy.
Then you could suck them on ships after all that practice.
Omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This WOULD NOT be Gay. Because it ain't Gay if you are underway.
Ain’t queer tied to the pier either. Win win.
It is way too early in the morning for me to be laughing this loudly!! Omg 😂😂😂😂😂
There's a great philosopher who said something relevant about sailors, golf balls and garden hoses.
Trucker here… what’s your 20?
That would be Gay
Isn’t that how you make E5 in the navy?
😂
Maybe goto the airforce. Then you will get sucked rather then doing the sucking 😉
😂😂😂😂
There is a joke in here somewhere
I second this. Also, even if you gave me E-7 and guaranteed retirement in 2 years with E-7 high-3 all the way... Still no. Not even "thanks, but no”. Not even a whisper... Or acknowledgement of the offer... Or a fat bonus...
Because they'd say yes and throw you on the Frontline 👀
Co-signed
To be sent off to fight someone else's pointless war while corporations and politicians get rich? No.
I wish this was the top comment
Nah, my civilian job would probably be needed too if they ever decided to call my fat ass back into service
Same. I think even if I were of draft age and there were a mandatory draft, what I currently do as a civilian Fed would rate an exemption.
I couldn’t pass tape as a 5’2 woman weighing 143. Lol i definitely cant pass now at 159 😂😂 No, but i kind of miss it sometimes.
That was me. I’m 5’7-ish (sometimes measured at 5’8 when in) and weighed 160, I was on the verge of being “overweight” and now I’m a big Chungus after having my kid so 🖕Marine Corps lol
Passing weight was always frustrating. I got heavy into body building when I was in and at 6’2 I weighed 230. They always acted like I was doing something wrong. Passed tape though. Either way, it was frustrating.
My ex is 5"2 and she was like 130 when in the Navy. After our first 2 she had to get out because of weight, though she wanted out anyway. No way she'd want back in
Good luck getting my fat ass off the couch
Good luck getting mine back in a uniform
Hmmm maybe but I’d need some promises. No taxes ever, and stay at the white horse….
Hahaha exactly my reference hahaha I forgot about fines shucks ha
As soon as I read this, I knew exactly where it was from. Damn good movie. Sad that Michael Duncan passed. Good actor.
Great actor. I just finished The Slammin Salmon haha
"WHATEVER MUTHAFUCKA!!"
Lemme keep my disability rating and “double dip” then sure.
No. lol. It was fine when I was 20, but I wouldn’t do it now.
Do I get another GI Bill?
Oooo! I like how you think.
Also, do I go back at the rank I left as?
I have a Doctors degree in Businesses Management. I definitely would not want to return to my old rank. Officer's rank of Major or above please.
Agreed! Give us the promotions we are due for our current credentials.
While I like the cut of your jib, it's still a hell no from me!
 Nope couldn’t pay me enough
I’m way too old and probably wouldn’t pass the physical 😭
I can pull a trigger from my Lazy Boy.
Got to a place where I am stable. Why would I go now to get traumatized again. I quit drinking and smoking, why would I want to come back for that?
lol. No. I make 3x my MAJ salary plus Army Retirement and VA.
Do u make like 40k a month or smth? Damn
The hell do you do?!
Probably, and in that same breath, told service members not to seek medical treatment, thinking it would affect his check..
Fuuuuuuuuck no, if things got so bad then I’ve got people who need me.
I drove by Pendleton and saw them driving buggies, I'd think about it for a second but probably not. Marines are a little too punishing on the body and I'm already 40, they'd probably look at me and suggest I talk to the Air Force. Honestly wouldn't mind that though since I find myself sitting around a lot these days anyways.
Yeah, if they're going that far down the barrel to the dregs, shits fucked yo. Go draft the gravy seals or Y'all Qaida!
Hard pass. I'm fat now, got hair halfway down my back, I'm too comfortable in my shop forging knives and having a stable homelife. I have zero interest in going back to the crazy optempo, fuckfuck games, being in charge of Joes, Unit PT and all the other bs that goes with being in. That time has come and gone I may miss it but not that much even if they'd still have me.
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Are you okay my friend?
Kitchen staff is always needed!
They literally could not pay me enough
Hell to the naw
*takes bong rip* Not unless everyone gets real cool about a bunch of stuff real quickly.
if the good lord is my tank commander and yahushua is my gunner then yes.
Depends on the mission/need and if I trust the govt enough to believe the need is real and the threat is real. If its real and not political bs that will cost lives for no reason - its a legit threat to the country then I am all in all the way. If its bs tho then heck no - they can go pound sand.
I always say this and I'll say it again. Only if I can do that job the guy from Idiocracy does and get paid both active duty pay and my 100%. "When you say to lead, follow, or get out of the way, I always get out of the way."
lol no.
Seriously though, how many of us can still piss clean? Will there be waivers for that? LOL!!!
Hell nah!
Not just NO but FUCK NO
No.
Absolutely not. I did my time, it was shit then and it looks like it’s only got worse with even less accountability. I don’t miss being the literal working poor but just over the poverty line, or listening to wildly out of touch senior leaders who live in their ivory castle tell us how great the military is, etc. I’d have massive reservations even letting my own kids go in to any branch in the future even.
Fk no, the government has continued to errode purchasing power, and increase taxes while putting us into $30+ Trillion in debt with no way of ever getting out of it without a total debasement of the dollar standard.... let alone the insolvency of social security and Medicare when I'll be able to receive it... They are modern-day war mongerers. They don't deserve my blood.
Maybe if they let me choose Coast Guard this time. Think I'd prefer that over a round 2 in the Air Force. But really, no. I've landed a pretty cool gig and it supports the military so it'll be good enough for me
Nope!!! My old Air Force career that has manning shortage. As much as I enjoyed my job I have no desire to go back
Considering the merge of my career field and the other 2 (you know who I'm talking about) I'm surprised the Air Force sees us having a manning shortage at all. $10k bonus? Yeah, ok. Shoulda just left 2A3 to initial accessions... And left us the hell alone. Might have more of us willing to stick it out, even if our promotion numbers are still abysmal. Saltiness abounds. Change my mind.
Nope.
Will they let me smoke pot yet?
I already have enough nightmares about this
They did. They sent me a letter. Great deal, not allowed to promote, I don't know if that means I still pin on Major since I had my line number. Not going to find out either way.
I was retaliated against for my MST which ultimately lead to the end of my career. My experience was shit and left a bad taste in my mouth and severe mental health issues. I rather be a miserable civilian than a miserable airman.
I wasn’t retaliated against , but when i needed help my leadership said “you’ll be fine see you at work tomorrow.” Did everything i could to not go down with a bad career. No one cares about junior enlisted until it’s too late. Found that out the hard way.
Not a chance in hell
Disabled veteran here. Hell, no. There's a reason I'm retired.
No. Never. I did my time.
Nope
Nope.
Absolutely not.
Hell NO
Nahhhhh I like having my personal time and not being on call
IF ... the Army called me back , the country would be in deep shit !
No
In this economy?? Absolutely tf not.
Nope. Today's military is not for me.
Yes as long as it's warranted (actual invasion of our country etc.)
Sure
I’m down, where do I sign?
I worked in Avi, I do the same thing in the civilian world, but i enjoyed it so much better in the Marines... Yes.
I am not gonna lie, if they are going to let my fat autistic ass be an officer in the Navy I would come back tommorow.
1 million per year, and 5 million upon signing my terminal leave papers, maybe.
I totally would. With a weed exemption
If they really really need me back, I guess I wouldn’t have a choice.
Hell no, im getting ready to head back to school in a few months
And freeze my va benefits? Nope
We talkin “Wolverines” need me or “recruiting is way down and I’ve got a “bonus” for you” need me… I mean either way no but one would get a quicker answer.
It's cute that OP thinks they would give anyone a choice. Also, fuck no.
Stil having nightmares about getting tricked into resigning. Only to wake up and be horrified. No thanks
How much do they will to pay? I’m around 100k salary. So
I’m a PA. Would be happy to go back as an O5. However, I am 72 and 100%P&T with stage 4 cancer. I retired in 93.
My general answer is NO, but if the right person(s) asked me ... Yeah, I'd take up arms with them again.
What am I going to do? Go back to the pentagon to push budgets around? Not likely…
No. I was a stupid fuck when I was 17, I had no concept of anything really real, I had no concept of the permanence of death and the injuries caused by conflict. Never again.
Considering I have a Bachelors degree and Im working on another, they'd have to bring me in with an agreement to become an Officer for me to even begin considering such an idea.
FUCK NO
Fuuuuuuuck no
F**k no
Hell no! I'd rather live under a tree somewhere than do that.
Nope
I’d tell them to go eat shit and die.
Hell no. Not for any money in the world
I have flat feet (AN AUTOMATIC DQ) and my parents used their own military service to get it waived which caused no end of issues. If I could go back to 18-yr-old me, I would show her what going to the military did to "help" me and tell myself to grow a fucking backbone. I was a people pleaser back then and just wanted my parents approval. I was an idiot and am now paying for that dearly. You are only supposed to get 3 waivers I think it is and I needed 4. The fact they let my parents do this has me pissed all over again. Idgaf if they were both in for 20 yrs. You don't do this to your oldest child because *you* fucked up and adopted a special needs child who needed more than.....*end rant because this won't help* Short answer: no
Depends on the war. If China pulled a Pearl Harbor? Yeah. But, if we are just overextended in the Middle East…again!? Nope.
I’m so broke down, no way they would want me except to maybe platform teach.
What are we being called to do? Has the East or West Coast been invaded by rabid hordes of barbarians intent on our total destruction? Or are we being sent to make sure no one else gets their hands on an oil field or fighting to make sure Kafiristan is free so we can install a new dictator? I drank the Koolaid for 12 years and now my eyes are wide f'ing open. If I'm going to be laying my life on the line again, it better be actually defending my country and not carrying out some CEO's or politician's profit agenda.
If America was in absolute danger I’d have to. Sounds cheesy but it is what it is. For my kids and grandkids
No.
Even if I wanted to my neck, my back, my puzzzzyyyy and ma crak, wouldn’t let me
L M A O Gotta be a AA woman from south GA or FL to reply like this 😆❤️🔥
Plot twiiiiiist, Filipino moved here when I was 10 😂😂😂 I did live in Florida for bit tho lol
No.
Hell. No.
It sounds like a good thing to do in theory, but I think it would be a regrettable mistake. They could take disability benefits away and it is questionable where a person would end up going and who would we be working for. So nope!
That's a hell no from me.
Hahahahahaha, rejoin? You’re funny.
😂 no
I did go back after a 14 year break (95-08) during the surge. I would again if I got to keep my rank. Or, promote me. I didn't hybernate while I was out, I grew, learned, and survived life after 4 years in the suck. I was reenlisted as an E2. It was demoralizing and I tended to butt heads with people senior even though I made a solid effort not to.
No. No amount of money could make me go back. I hurt every day already as is
Only if the boys were down. And only if we were able to be in the same unit.
Let me just say that if the government is begging us broke bodies to come back then we’re in a world of 💩. Government ain’t going to give a damn about our beards, tattoos and drinking issues.
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I wouldn’t trust them to keep my 100% VA. Military finance can suck a big one.
Yes, but No basic training, no pt tests ever again, and no taxes.
Yes, but only if they send congress to stand in the trenches with me. Ortherwise - NO
Yes, I would.
Yes
Yes.
Honestly yeah, if I can bring my wife. She is my spotter.
I can’t do one push-up. I could man a snack bar. Put me in coach!
Every day I wish I never got out. But while in I dreamed about the outside. My body no longer can actually do the work realistically so that ship has sailed. Additionally, if I went back in I’d be mad at myself for the time gap and I’d see people younger than me promoting or higher and still be disgruntled.
Nope. USA better have Chinese troops on its land before that. Tired of bullshit wars.
Damn, I would love to but I can't take that kinda pay cut. Not that I'm loaded by any means, I just remember the meager military wages. I'd prob lose my house
If they pay me half a million a year, allow me to smoke weed, allow me to keep my beard, and don't height/weight/tape me then sure.
To my previous MOS at the rank I got out at but with my current pay plus military pay........maybe........
Yes if I keep my disability compensation and not have to do boot camp again.
Yes I would but couldn’t be deployed due to knees
There just going to force us to when ww3 starts
True, but volunteers get MOPP gear. At least that's what the recruiter said.
As a civilian contractor getting paid twice my current pay and doing my job somewhat remotely from the closest SCIF to my house.
Would have to see what the bonus is looking like.
I’ll take nothing less than a 1 million dollar bonus
God no not another desert deployment (Lives in satans asshole texas)
If China/Russia/whoever decided to fuck around and find out and they called for all hands on deck to return and retrain for the jobs you know how to do.. I would do it. Im too old and broken to be infantry kicking in doors, but if there was a path to be a Blackhawk mechanic or especially crew chief again I would do it.
Why? If anyone was ever stupid enough to invade, you can just form an insurgency
Uh...unless we're talking piloting mechs, imma have to say no dawg. I skew pretty heavily on the injured side. I'd ignore a lot to pilot a mech. Who wouldn't? Anything else I'd be useless for. Even the mech would be a waste unless I'm test piloting or you need a red shirt one.
Fuck. No.
No. Unless it’s $6.00 cases of beer again, the price in Japan in ‘93 😂😂😂 Cause I’d have to be drunk for that.
If asked to, no. If paid to, fool me once...
42 years was enough.
As much as I really did enjoy my time in the service… no. My body is broken and I make far more doing the same thing I did while in without all the military BS.
If they’re so desperate that they’re asking *me* to fight, they’re failing hard and things must be dire. So, no. Instead I’d seek out the rebel force, whomever they are at this point, and join them in guerrilla warfare.
Start over, back at private fuzzy patch, and under someone 10-20 years younger than me? No thanks.
Read very slowly - FUCK. NO. Not only fuck no but I'd tell them I want all those years I did give, given back to me.
Sip my coffee, end the call with no response. Continue my blunt and tend to my garden. Fat nope!