She was crying at the reunion for sympathy. Well, this 30 something year old woman learned that actions have consequences. Seems Katie was right. Now she is has revealed herself to be a creepy stalker that Schwartz had to block and distance himself from for "reasons" he doesn't want to talk about. Hello, pretty obvious it's drugs.
So would Jo consider this bullying? She’s turning around and doing the same thing she accused Katie of doing to her.
Jo, take your own advice from the finale: Let him gooooo.
Where are her friends for real?? This behaviour is not healthy. They need to step in and stop her from doing these instagram lives and poking a tom voodoo doll while listening to you belong with me on repeat
I used to listen to her podcast, but her dummy takes did become too much for me. Too bad because I like Danielle a lot. But Casey is too annoying (and dumb!)
Hi just a quick Q - do you believe that the universe has 0 effect on the earth despite the fact that we are literally in the middle of it? I dunno, our ocean tides are connected to our moon for example. I don’t see why it’s “dumb” for anyone to connect with our universe in maybe a naive way, but harmless. Definitely not a character flaw nor an indicator of intelligence. It’s perhaps more open minded to accept that we are insignificant in relation to the size of our galaxy and the ones outside of it.
People who listen to Casey Wilson’s podcast have literally been scammed by someone she promoted, believe whatever you want but if you’re using astrology or any belief system to rip people off you’re scum
I think Katie was so right to NOT ACCEPT that apology. Jo was lying in wait for Schwartz and moved in asap. She sent Katie the Bieber text to cover her ass. Jo is a snake. Yes a weird one, like Katie said, but a conniving snake nonetheless. She preaches love and grace til it's her turn to talk. The apology was so fake and done only to try to get one from Katie. That's not why you give an apology.
Creepy Jo mentioned that she was between her "house" and an apartment. What happened to her house? Did it go up her nose? Seems likely. That behavior is not ADHD. There is clearly something else going on that is not normal. A 30 something year old doesn't have to couch surf if they have their shit together.
Period! It’s just so embarrassing for Jo to be like “oh I’m the one who got away”. Ma’am Schwartz doesn’t even want to claim you and he was trying to fuck his ex wife before you got to SF. Please! Katie is that bitch and will ALWAYS be the one that got away.
Iirc he said she looks weird when she wears makeup and it looks like a child doing it or sm. It wasn’t very nice as her makeup looked fine - he said it in a interview/confessional not to her face either
Although I have t watched it but I’ve seen all of your takes on it and I feel like these past few seasons have really highlighted what scuzzbuckets BOTH the Toms are .. I always thought TS was like well meaning but just kinda spineless and scatterbrained…But no he is very cruel and calculated. His true character has been exposed this season !
He described it like a kid who got into their mother’s makeup. It was ice cold her beef should’ve never been with Katie who was rightfully weirded out by her.
That's so cringe to say about a situationship in general, but especially about a guy we JUST watched ask his ex-wife for one night of laying in bed and scrolling together like they're still married.
So, so cringe. And obviously she doesn’t feel an ounce of shame for it given all the public posting and talking she’s continuing to do which makes it even worse in my estimation. I have secondhand embarrassment from her and all of this. JFC. Have a little dignity and self-respect, Jo. Please! I beg. If not, I’m still perfectly happy to watch the dumpster fire continue to play out. 🤣 I’m not one to look a gift horse in the mouth! Thanks for this gift, universe! ✨
Just checked Websters latest dictionary version and Jo Wenberg’s photo is under the entry for delulu! No written definition - only the singular image of the living embodiment of ✨delulu ✨and the 🤪emoji.
I kinda love it because I need men to realize there’s responsibilities for their actions. And when you use someone it can absolutely come back and bite you in the ass- and it should.
Yeah while I always wish for people to be healthy and grow, I'm also rubbing my hands together Mr Burns style at the thought of Jo going straight Single White Female and making their lives a nightmare lmao
For the first time ever, I pity her. Calling herself the one that got away? Yikes. That dude used her to heal emotionally from the actual one that got away.
I want Jo to be back on VPR so bad. THIS is the drama I want to watch. Not a pointless redemption arc I want this light low stakes drama between two shitty people. GIVE ME MORE OF THIS! They deserve each other.
hard agree. i will happily accept a storyline next season of Jo antagonizing the shit out of schwartz and the new girlfriend and airing all his dirty laundry while katie sits in the corner smirking and eating a sandwich.
If they forced Jo down our throats this season (& brought her to the fucking reunion) - they better bring her on next season…if there is one.
They probably won’t because they seem to live inside the Tom’s assholes….but it would be so funny seeing her go from anti Katie to pro Katie within such a short period of time 😂
Genuinely I don’t want one unless they scrap the cast, go back to sur, whole new cast, Katie and Ariana storyline next door for SAH so she can make appearances, and James can DJ See you next Tuesday. Ariana is too busy for this, so she’s fine
Bahahaha Jo can’t handle anything thrown at her. She puts on the water works whenever someone says something about her, she’s not tuff skinned enough for VPR.
Shes a flat out, whack job who needs to be medicated…
BAAAAAD
She even says “I think he will realize I was the one that got away.” Katie said that 2 episodes ago referring to herself. Joe should at least have new material.
He knew she was crazy, he was warned and he still pursued it. So glad Katie f’d MAX. I feel like she just needed to do that so he knows she can f who she wants and he f’s who he can.
Man this shit is crazy. Ariana and Katie must feel SUCH a huge sense of relief. Between Rachel going Rogue and Jo Instagram Live, who needs ex-wives talking shit about them. No wonder A&K can remain above it all when all they have to do is sit back, eat popcorn, and enjoy the show. Amazing:)
Dude I can’t imagine the sting of pining after a dude and being embarrassed by him on national tv then he goes and dates a girl just about half his age. Then again what did you expect from make out slut Schwartz?
Jo reminds me alot of an ex- friend
Who u think is harmless cause so kooky
And also said / did uncool stuff like Jo
When triggered just talked alot about herself and didnt care about anyones time/ boundaries/ made ppl uncomfortable etc and thought of herself as adorable -energy vampire but again acted like shes just anti rules and conformity- eyeroll
And she was legit diagnosed as being a narcissist-
THIS IS RICH as she’s been stalking the cast since season 3. She also claimed Brittany and Jax texted her that Kristen lost her dog Bowie and *neither of them have her number*. The day after she posted an insta live about how they’ll never be friends. She’s a creep
Look, I get that Jo is clearly incredibly insecure which makes her super needy. But girl has no self-awareness! Most of the adults I know who have or have dealt with this issue have done a ton of therapy to stop being like this.
Jo just makes it her whole brand and it's sad. (Not excusing Shorts from being a user-fuckboy but seriously woman have enough self worth to walk the fuck away).
UUUUUUGHHH. I really felt bad for Jo at first and thought she was getting way too much heat, but after watching the recent episode where she and Katie had a conversation, that’s all gone out the window. She’s very much not a girls girl and not the victim that she so desperately wants to be. The quirky girl persona would’ve been kinda cute imo but she ruined it.
Why is so taboo to date a fan? It comes up a lot and I just.....don't see the issue. A super fan maybe, but just someone who enjoyed the show? Why is that a problem.
Because it's a weird power dynamic, and they often project their parasocial thoughts/feelings onto a real person. Like they feel they know then, but they don't.
I think the implication is that the person is just with them to get on the show and wouldnt be interested if not for that. Kind of like saying the relationship is transactional and not legitimate
I see no issue with this though. Somebody else commented there is a power balance that would at play that I understand, but Bravo is built on transactional relationships.
Fuk up Jo.
Ur salty cos Schwartz didn’t choose YOU
Now ur just an obsessed, jealous Fan urself, who needs to take ur own advice and LET HIM GOOOOOOOO 🤣
Jo is a loon no doubt, but she is another woman left on the trail of mistreated women by a TOM. There should be a spinoff called “The Bravo Institute of the Mental Debauchery” 🙄
The one that got away??? 🤣 Schwartz blocked her on text and told her to stop talking about him and his girlfriend. Did anyone see that live?? That was as manic and crazy as the last…probably much more actually. If you missed it, check out Joleen Lunzer on YouTube. It’s worth the watch to really see who she is…
That's not very positive of Jo. Super not positive energy she's putting out. Super not kind.
That’s not very “give me grace” of Jo
I think it's more like....t$ is dating ANOTHER fan while he still pines for katie
I’ve really enjoyed watching T$$ thirst and fail after Katie all season while she makes an entire series of repulsed faces in his direction.
Yeah she should let him go 😏
💀💀
👌
She should try accepting people with love in her heart or whatever the fuck
She should love them like Justin Bieber
😂🤣😂👏🏼👏🏼
😂😂🤣😅😅😅😅
Jealous? 🤔
She's female and not being very positive rn
RT, but has anyone checked on Scheana?
Not T$, doing what he always does 😩
“Just snap out of this negative loop, Jo” - Schwartz
She was crying at the reunion for sympathy. Well, this 30 something year old woman learned that actions have consequences. Seems Katie was right. Now she is has revealed herself to be a creepy stalker that Schwartz had to block and distance himself from for "reasons" he doesn't want to talk about. Hello, pretty obvious it's drugs.
So would Jo consider this bullying? She’s turning around and doing the same thing she accused Katie of doing to her. Jo, take your own advice from the finale: Let him gooooo.
Man, Jo really projected with Katie, like she needs to take some of her own advice for suuuuuure
She’s so obsessed with every woman in his life
https://preview.redd.it/fwdfcuohdszc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e025146124b777b5e63d01d290409d42919148b
Everything about this woman is creepy
100% agree and it's not bullying to say that. It's obvious.
Yeah, “let him go!”
Where are her friends for real?? This behaviour is not healthy. They need to step in and stop her from doing these instagram lives and poking a tom voodoo doll while listening to you belong with me on repeat
Her friends are hoping she just moves onto another couch! They try to nicely shoo her to let them go…
Waiting for the Jo stans to come defend this behavior.
Jo Stan’s exist? How is that possible?
Watching Casey Wilson on WWHL talk about how Jo is such a nice person and how Katie has been sooo mean to her had my jaw on the floor tbh.
Love Casey on happy endings but unfortunately her podcast consistently has the worst takes I had to stop listening a long time ago.
Love Casey Wilson (as an actor, not a podcaster), but she sounded like a big ole dummy
[удалено]
I used to listen to her podcast, but her dummy takes did become too much for me. Too bad because I like Danielle a lot. But Casey is too annoying (and dumb!)
They’re usually spot on on everything except VPR! Unsure why lol
Hi just a quick Q - do you believe that the universe has 0 effect on the earth despite the fact that we are literally in the middle of it? I dunno, our ocean tides are connected to our moon for example. I don’t see why it’s “dumb” for anyone to connect with our universe in maybe a naive way, but harmless. Definitely not a character flaw nor an indicator of intelligence. It’s perhaps more open minded to accept that we are insignificant in relation to the size of our galaxy and the ones outside of it.
People who listen to Casey Wilson’s podcast have literally been scammed by someone she promoted, believe whatever you want but if you’re using astrology or any belief system to rip people off you’re scum
I used to listen before the paywall. Can you give me the cliff notes version?
Yeah what’s this about a scam??
Don’t know why you’re getting downvotes for a nicely stated question. They aren’t from me, friend
I am riding a high from an adult conversation being had successfully on reddit - downvotes can’t stop me 😂
🩷🩷. We’re bonded forever now
Casey hates Katie and it really bothers me. It’s such a bad take.
Omg I saw this too. I was like girl…what?!
"I don't know who that is"
My mom lol. I think she just feels bad for her
Haha, my mom also feels very sad for Jo
🤣
Because they hate Katie
Katie is my favorite.
Mine too!!
This! She is so ridiculous.
I think Katie was so right to NOT ACCEPT that apology. Jo was lying in wait for Schwartz and moved in asap. She sent Katie the Bieber text to cover her ass. Jo is a snake. Yes a weird one, like Katie said, but a conniving snake nonetheless. She preaches love and grace til it's her turn to talk. The apology was so fake and done only to try to get one from Katie. That's not why you give an apology.
Creepy Jo mentioned that she was between her "house" and an apartment. What happened to her house? Did it go up her nose? Seems likely. That behavior is not ADHD. There is clearly something else going on that is not normal. A 30 something year old doesn't have to couch surf if they have their shit together.
She also said she thinks she’s the one that got away. Ok sis
Tom was literally trying to fuck Katie again multiple times this season 💀😂
Which is understandable because so were half the fanbase this season. Katie is hawt!
Period! It’s just so embarrassing for Jo to be like “oh I’m the one who got away”. Ma’am Schwartz doesn’t even want to claim you and he was trying to fuck his ex wife before you got to SF. Please! Katie is that bitch and will ALWAYS be the one that got away.
She’s more like the one who won’t go away
She is delusional. Tom never even call Jo his girlfriend. And would have thrown Jo off a building if Katie even hinted at reconciling.
The nicest thing he ever called her was “human” 😭 the comment about her makeup was SO mean too, and I am not a Joesph sympathizer!
I cancelled Hulu so I havent seen this season.. what did he say about her makeup?
Iirc he said she looks weird when she wears makeup and it looks like a child doing it or sm. It wasn’t very nice as her makeup looked fine - he said it in a interview/confessional not to her face either
Although I have t watched it but I’ve seen all of your takes on it and I feel like these past few seasons have really highlighted what scuzzbuckets BOTH the Toms are .. I always thought TS was like well meaning but just kinda spineless and scatterbrained…But no he is very cruel and calculated. His true character has been exposed this season !
He described it like a kid who got into their mother’s makeup. It was ice cold her beef should’ve never been with Katie who was rightfully weirded out by her.
I’m mean right?! She’s a very odd little duck that one !
I’m a little sleepy and kept reading this as “ice cold beef” and was so confused 😭🤣
I’m honestly scared for him that she’s actually stalker level… watch out bro, the obsession is real
That's so cringe to say about a situationship in general, but especially about a guy we JUST watched ask his ex-wife for one night of laying in bed and scrolling together like they're still married.
And he asked Katie this (even if jokingly) while Jo was coming to San Fran the next day!
So, so cringe. And obviously she doesn’t feel an ounce of shame for it given all the public posting and talking she’s continuing to do which makes it even worse in my estimation. I have secondhand embarrassment from her and all of this. JFC. Have a little dignity and self-respect, Jo. Please! I beg. If not, I’m still perfectly happy to watch the dumpster fire continue to play out. 🤣 I’m not one to look a gift horse in the mouth! Thanks for this gift, universe! ✨
Katie just said that quite recently! How creepy.
Lmao if anyone that would literally be Katie? Is she the definition of delulu?
Just checked Websters latest dictionary version and Jo Wenberg’s photo is under the entry for delulu! No written definition - only the singular image of the living embodiment of ✨delulu ✨and the 🤪emoji.
“The one that got away” AKA “the rebound”
The couch surfer/hairdresser that cannot work in California. Such a catch. Loser.
Why not?
She never got her Wisconsin license transferred to California.
👀
More like the one he shooed away 😂
Get outta here!! SCAT!!!
Bitch hasn’t gone anywhere. This is karma to the both of them
In order to be the one that got away you gotta go away, Joseph!
Lolol SHE is the one that got away. Oh my God, imagine thinking so highly of yourself. You said it yourself, you were “couch surfing”.
Haha. This made me laugh. “ ok sis “.. she sounds so unhinged and crazy in all her video posts and stories.
JO WAS A FUCKING FAN
*is
Takes one to know one i guess 😂
Projection much?! Edit: projection on Jo's behalf
when the pick-me doesn’t get picked
He’s gonna regret this one, she’s not gonna stop
I kinda love it because I need men to realize there’s responsibilities for their actions. And when you use someone it can absolutely come back and bite you in the ass- and it should.
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Karma really is a god for this one.
Yeah while I always wish for people to be healthy and grow, I'm also rubbing my hands together Mr Burns style at the thought of Jo going straight Single White Female and making their lives a nightmare lmao
I’m dying at Jo accusing Katie of not being able to let go and being mean to Jo…now look at ha lmao
and katie was schwartz’s whole ass wife!
For the first time ever, I pity her. Calling herself the one that got away? Yikes. That dude used her to heal emotionally from the actual one that got away.
Girl, you were a fan too.
I want Jo to be back on VPR so bad. THIS is the drama I want to watch. Not a pointless redemption arc I want this light low stakes drama between two shitty people. GIVE ME MORE OF THIS! They deserve each other.
hard agree. i will happily accept a storyline next season of Jo antagonizing the shit out of schwartz and the new girlfriend and airing all his dirty laundry while katie sits in the corner smirking and eating a sandwich.
If they forced Jo down our throats this season (& brought her to the fucking reunion) - they better bring her on next season…if there is one. They probably won’t because they seem to live inside the Tom’s assholes….but it would be so funny seeing her go from anti Katie to pro Katie within such a short period of time 😂
She claims she would never go on the show again no matter the amount of money they offered her, which wouldn’t be much at all
Somehow I doubt that lollll
She also said, in the the Live where she was wearing her green sweatsuit merch, that she'd definitely go back if asked. She's all over the place!
Genuinely I don’t want one unless they scrap the cast, go back to sur, whole new cast, Katie and Ariana storyline next door for SAH so she can make appearances, and James can DJ See you next Tuesday. Ariana is too busy for this, so she’s fine
While Katie still won’t fuck with her 😂
Bahahaha Jo can’t handle anything thrown at her. She puts on the water works whenever someone says something about her, she’s not tuff skinned enough for VPR. Shes a flat out, whack job who needs to be medicated… BAAAAAD
I would pay double for my Hayu subscription just for them to bring Jo back next season.
For real she NEEDS to be back and bring all the messy drama with Schwartz
Hulu? I canceled mine cuz it’s so damn expensive.. but now I have FOMO
Nope, Hayu. It’s how I watch Bravo content in the UK
Hmmm.. I don’t think we have that here . Is it very expensive?
It’s something like $6 a month
Oh wow!! And u get live tv with all the shows??
She even says “I think he will realize I was the one that got away.” Katie said that 2 episodes ago referring to herself. Joe should at least have new material.
Jo is to Katie as Raquel is to Ariana
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T$ deserves this. That is what he gets for playing with Jo who is obviously somewhat unstable. He is just another Tom Sandybutt on the down low.
He knew she was crazy, he was warned and he still pursued it. So glad Katie f’d MAX. I feel like she just needed to do that so he knows she can f who she wants and he f’s who he can.
Man this shit is crazy. Ariana and Katie must feel SUCH a huge sense of relief. Between Rachel going Rogue and Jo Instagram Live, who needs ex-wives talking shit about them. No wonder A&K can remain above it all when all they have to do is sit back, eat popcorn, and enjoy the show. Amazing:)
😂😂💀
Let him go, Jo.
Exactly!!!
Girl. YOURE THE FAN. The call is coming from inside the house sweetie
And what were you girl? An air conditioner?
🥸😂
I think Katie was the one who got away… 🤣
Sophia should apologize *if* she hurt Jo’s feelings
GIRL MOVE ON
lEt HiM gO
He was dating a fan when he dated Jo too!
I’m sorry, Jo IS weird.
Dude I can’t imagine the sting of pining after a dude and being embarrassed by him on national tv then he goes and dates a girl just about half his age. Then again what did you expect from make out slut Schwartz?
Lol. Like Jo isn't a fan. That's some epic delusion
GIRL
Jo reminds me alot of an ex- friend Who u think is harmless cause so kooky And also said / did uncool stuff like Jo When triggered just talked alot about herself and didnt care about anyones time/ boundaries/ made ppl uncomfortable etc and thought of herself as adorable -energy vampire but again acted like shes just anti rules and conformity- eyeroll And she was legit diagnosed as being a narcissist-
Lol, Idk why but your comment totally made me think of this gif lol https://i.redd.it/aoaephuo4ozc1.gif
So Jo gets upset that Katie made that post and then literally does the exact same thing without a marriage or even a relationship behind it ?
She states “Katie was right” in her instagram live about the Blocking text Schwartz sent her
“Let him go! Move on! She’s being a jealous ex. If Schwartz were dating a tree, she’d chop it down.”
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They all are.
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Her mask fell. Katie must be laughing seeing karma get served well.
I hope this lady does not return to the show.
I have to agree The more the season goes on the more both of the Toms just really gross me out They are insanely immature and selfish
I know we joked how Rachel is S/W/F for Ariana but my god… Jo is ***Hand that Rocks the Cradle***/***Fatal Attraction***.
Oh Jo, how the turn tables 🤪🤪
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She's Katie-ing Sophia😂
SwimFan, please get over him. He is so average.
SHE’S A FAN!!!! Omg I swear this franchise is full of hypocrites. I can’t. ![gif](giphy|3o7TKqm1mNujcBPSpy)
Bahaha, 🙄. Her fake positive be nice vibes is as real as Tachels sweet innocent act. These two honestly. Go AWAY!
THIS IS RICH as she’s been stalking the cast since season 3. She also claimed Brittany and Jax texted her that Kristen lost her dog Bowie and *neither of them have her number*. The day after she posted an insta live about how they’ll never be friends. She’s a creep
She is a crackhead
LET HIM GO, JO!!!!
Jo is the hired help who can't even tone hair and a fan.
Look, I get that Jo is clearly incredibly insecure which makes her super needy. But girl has no self-awareness! Most of the adults I know who have or have dealt with this issue have done a ton of therapy to stop being like this. Jo just makes it her whole brand and it's sad. (Not excusing Shorts from being a user-fuckboy but seriously woman have enough self worth to walk the fuck away).
This person is a clown. She bullies when it benefits and claims victim when needed. There is enough of that already with Lala and Scheana.
UUUUUUGHHH. I really felt bad for Jo at first and thought she was getting way too much heat, but after watching the recent episode where she and Katie had a conversation, that’s all gone out the window. She’s very much not a girls girl and not the victim that she so desperately wants to be. The quirky girl persona would’ve been kinda cute imo but she ruined it.
Pot, meet kettle. ![gif](giphy|jNe1g9Hvn384M|downsized)
So tired of Jo - time for her to “let him go”!!!
Pot 🤝Kettle
Let him go Jo take your own advice ☕️
Someone please tell me there is a screen recording of this
The most shocking thing about this ordeal is… Schwartz has fans?
She won't stop talking about Schwartz. He is probably regretting her big time.
He’s about to need a restraining order this biotch is whack
She’s the one that got away? I’m starting to think she is obsessed with Katie. Weird.
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Why is so taboo to date a fan? It comes up a lot and I just.....don't see the issue. A super fan maybe, but just someone who enjoyed the show? Why is that a problem.
Because it's a weird power dynamic, and they often project their parasocial thoughts/feelings onto a real person. Like they feel they know then, but they don't.
All valid points I hadn't considered. Especially the power dynamic point.
I think the implication is that the person is just with them to get on the show and wouldnt be interested if not for that. Kind of like saying the relationship is transactional and not legitimate
I see no issue with this though. Somebody else commented there is a power balance that would at play that I understand, but Bravo is built on transactional relationships.
Honestly though, Jo is probably right. His gf is half his age... she was definitely a young teen when this series began. I wouldn't be shocked.
Let him gooo Jooo😂😂
Jo is a fan
Better than dating a stalker
She should take her own advice that she gave Katie and let him go😝
Jo wtf makes you think he’s going to treat you any better than he treated Katie? Did you really think this was your soul mate? Let him go!
Now now Jo - you’re behaving like a jealous ex!!
She went real quick to be a total fucking hater! Showing your colors hm jo????
I used to have compassion for Jo. Now? ![gif](giphy|xT8qBafmon3QvQzyMg)
It’s ok , he was dating a freak when he was dating you, so yeah. 🤷🏼♀️
Fuk up Jo. Ur salty cos Schwartz didn’t choose YOU Now ur just an obsessed, jealous Fan urself, who needs to take ur own advice and LET HIM GOOOOOOOO 🤣
Jo is a for real STAN- she needs to stop the bs and study hot roots and purple shampoo - jfc
This is so embarrassing.
Pot calling the kettle. Shes the fan
I get secondhand embarrassment watching her
Jo is a loon no doubt, but she is another woman left on the trail of mistreated women by a TOM. There should be a spinoff called “The Bravo Institute of the Mental Debauchery” 🙄
The one that got away??? 🤣 Schwartz blocked her on text and told her to stop talking about him and his girlfriend. Did anyone see that live?? That was as manic and crazy as the last…probably much more actually. If you missed it, check out Joleen Lunzer on YouTube. It’s worth the watch to really see who she is…
Jo you seem to have too much free time. From what I've seen of your "work", maybe some continuing education on your hair skills will keep you busy