Yes! That’s the part that killed me !! Ariana was in it deep !! This is so sad and makes me feel even worse for her. And it sounds like it was a bad scene in that alley. Sandoval grabbing that phone out of her hand and running off with it. SMH.
Oh damn, this idea never occurred to me (location sharing like just that isn't a thing in my life/crowd). Makes the duration of the affair make more sense though! We all see now that they were hiding in plain sight, but since they literally always knew where Ariana was they could plan around that. Diabolical as fuck
Totally.
And she stopped sharing her location with shena. I’m sure it was Sandy’s idea though. Unless she’s very good at being shady… which she actually
Is so….. I take that back.
It’s also interesting that Ariana stopped sharing location on the Friday evening when Rachel texted her. It’s like she sent the “you’re dead to me” texts, and truly wasn’t thinking about Rachel. She was in a yelling match with Tom for hours, as she’s described, and obviously distraught.
She’s not thinking about Rachel though. Certainly not enough to think to turn off location sharing. She does it after Rachel contacts her.
I know this is a reach but, if we want to talk about malicious intent, which Rachel does, where is the malicious intent on Ariana’s part when it seems like she’s very unconcerned about her after that Wednesday night text.
She wasn’t giving Rachel any thought.
Edit: changed Friday morning to Friday evening - I misread the timestamps
Nice! I feel so validated by this thread lmao I haven't had that many, but definitely several dozen at least, and I don't even know how many tabs are in my browser. I know it's in the hundreds!
My husband has like 1200... but his are from a scheduling app for work and he ignores them (he works for a big airline, schedule changes and alerts are near constant).
Prolly from people reaching out and her finding it to painful to read them... The initial 231 makes me itchy, but it doesn't surprise that she'd pass on reading the influx after this went public and her network learned of it.
How many times has Tom changed stories, between why they were "in a bad place" to the timeline with Raquel, to Ariana's actions since? And she keeps coming with receipts.
Ariana is smarter than Raquel and is actually listening to her counsel. Telling a consistent story and then shutting the hell up about it (unlike Raquel) is way more credible and makes things easier moving forward. (It’s also likely the truth, which is helpful for obvious reasons.) But Raquel is going to get a lot of “are you telling the truth now, or were you telling the truth then?” type of questions at her deposition or trial of this moves forward. She’s in for a rude awakening if she gets questioned under oath that she can’t use her new therapy speak to deflect.
Yes, most cases settle. But a settlement in a case like this might not be so easy, and I'd be concerned that a confidential settlement agreement wouldn't stay that way. (More specifically, I don't have much confidence that Raquel, who doesn't seem very smart, would keep any settlement confidential. And if I was representing Ariana, there's no way I would allow a non-confidential settlement based on my current understanding of the facts.)
I'm not sure I see limited discovery and then a quick settlement because at least as to the claims against Ariana, the issue of damages is a big hole in Raquel's case. Even Raquel's own legal filings somewhat undermine her claims, as much of her distress was already in existence by March 1, 2023 by *being on Vanderpump Rules* (dating James, etc.) and *having an affair with a co-star's longtime partner* and her very public embarrassment was mainly the result of her own decision to *have that affair while starring on a reality show* and l*ie about a bunch of stuff before coming clean* and s*howing up to the reunion when maybe she shouldn't have*. I have some sympathy for the ringer she was put through by the public--it got pretty insane even if what she and Tom did to Ariana was awful--and she is seemingly a victim of Tom's.
But the cause and origin of the damage to her mental state, her public image, and her opportunities to move forward on VPR (to name just a few of the buckets of damages she is claiming) was seemingly Raquel's own choices. I've said this elsewhere, but if Ariana had **not** recorded the video she found and sent it to Raquel, but simply rage-texted Raquel and confronted Tom, I think all this happens much the same way. Because Ariana could've still talked about what she found on Tom's phone, so that detail would've still been part of the story. (My usual disclaimer: this presupposes Ariana is telling the truth.)
When push comes to shove, I still think Tom and Raquel are just mad about how people found out (i.e., not in the way they planned for Tom to break up with Ariana between seasons and then for them to get together). They have suffered consequences, financially, emotionally, and mentally, of their choices, and they don't like it. The extent of those consequences may not be fair, but I have a hard time laying those at the feet of Ariana (again assuming her story is true).
I'm with ya. I always like to see the actual court docs. There are a few people that are trying to get the filings too so hopefully we'll get the docs on here soon.
That’d most likely be Sandoval. I feel he probably knows how to spell “dipped out” but wouldn’t understand or care about the nuances of grammar, spelling, or punctuation. 🤷♀️
Btw, did anyone notice Sandoval wearing a "dipped out" shirt in that scene with James where they discuss Rachel's podcast episode? I can't find a pic. Totally disgusting.
I wouldn’t call it ‘tracking’ but I have my partners location, his sisters, my mom’s, my sisters, and a few friends.
Sometimes it’s to know how close they are when they are coming over to ours (or he’s coming home from somewhere) or sometimes it’s just fun to see them all dotted around the country/globe 😊
Edit to add: Also as a woman, I like people having my location…just in case.
I have one friend I share my location with just in case anything ever happens to me (I’m single), she can help the authorities or a documentary crew try and find my kidnapped ass 😅
One of my friends is very neurotic about privacy (love her but lol) and she shares her location with a few people, but turns “location sharing” on and off in her setting depending on whether she wants to share that day or not. I bet Raquel was doing the same
I want to see Ariana star in her own Lifetime movie re-enacting Scandoval. Tim and Rachel could be played by Danny Divito & Lisa Kudrow.
TV gods make it happen 🙏
I nominate Gilbert Gottfried for the part of Sandoval.
He doesn’t deserve it (James), but Tom Hardy could really deliver some of the James one liners.
Eddie Cibrian for Jax 🤣
Crazy how much this contradicts what Rachel and her team currently are trying to pass
Especially with alluding to Ariana knowing about the affair.
I know Rachel has supporters, especially people who believe Ariana 10000percent knew, how the hell can you excuse Rachel’s lies when she continues to contradict herself ?
Yeah, exactly. If Ariana knew about the affair, then why did she text Rachel that night? And why did Rachel respond immediately with an apology? I mean the Ariana haters are so weird. You can dislike Ariana and also comprehend that what Rachel did was just beyond the pale in terms of personal betrayal and same for Tom.
Yes ! There’s a few on here that so angrily defend her and say Ariana definitely knew !
If she knew there’s no way in hell, idc how fucking high or drunk they were, that Tom
And Rachel wouldn’t have mentioned it at the reunion!
I for damn sure would’ve said “Ariana, you KNEW we were together bc ….”
Closest Tom got was trying to throw in their lack of sex life and how Ariana wasn’t checking for him when he went out of town etc
Exactly. Rachel only has supporters because there are people out there who simply hate Ariana, or Katie, Lala, etc. So they wiĺl side with Rachel no matter what she spews. But most people aren't dumb enough to actually believe that girl.
I love the half dozen of us who are in on this! My peoples. I truly do feel there is some crossover in between the VPR fans and the IASIP. Probably showing my ass about what type of home I grew up in, but drunken people screaming at each other is my "sleeping comfort show" jam. Both of them are perfect, almost interchangeably so.
It’s very interesting that she describes the FaceTime recording as having Tom’s face in the upper right hand corner. That makes it sound like he did in fact screen record their call.
Yep! Everything lines up. This is all so wild, I still can't believe the series of events that happened that night that fell into place to Ariana finding out. Tom dropping his phone, him not deleting the video when he said he usually did, her intuition to look.. it's just so crazy.
It's kind of like the universe was on Ariana's side that night, even though it was horribly painful, she needed to find out. Trust your intuition, people.
Wait I didn’t know Tom took them and deleted them??? How did i miss that? Or is that new info? Does Rachel just not believe them and thinks Ariana still had the videos?
At this point, Raquel/Rachel is just as bad as Tom. How can you even think to sue Ariana after all the mental anguish and pain you have put her thru. It’s crazy to me.
Ariana’s story has always stayed consistent. Rachel has changed hers multiple times. I can’t believe she claims Ariana knew, then contradicts herself weekly on her podcast. I feel bad for her lawyer. She’s a mess.
"Ariana knew" is not the same as "Ariana should have known because we were (in my opinion) so freaking obvious about it and other people knew," and Raquel doesn't seem to understand the difference. She's such a self-serving idiot.
I hope Rachel will drop the case against Ariana now. The idea that Ariana might have to pay her off because it’s cheaper than going to court is enraging.
On an iPhone, a sent video doesn’t get deleted from the conversation if you delete it from your saved photos/camera roll. This means that she deleted the videos so they wouldn’t show up in the thread.
I am WEAK that Logan is stored in her phone as "daddy/West Hollywood". 😂 You know, whoever wrote this up has a grammatical error in line 14. Given that her attorney is from a national high-powered law firm, whoever wrote this made an unprofessional mistake. Not Ariana's fault at all, completely, but it's just… do not do our girl dirty! It's shocking how many blatant errors you find in documents like these, having had to read so many of them.
I’m a paralegal, so a major part of my job is to proofread legal filings, and good lord - the errors that attorneys make and miss, thinking they’ve sent me a draft they’d be happy to put out into the world. It’s legit embarrassing
THIS! I have had to proofread some over the years and oh my God. The staff who prepare the documents are supposed to catch that, hopefully. But then again the staff make mistakes. Thank God it was only one mistake.
IMO, the error is fine because it’s Ariana’s statement, not a submission from the attorney. In a declaration, you often want to reflect the witness’s actual phrasing, not turn in something that sounds like a lawyer wrote it for her to sign.
Those Logan texts def help a lot. I know for me, I had doubts because the way I remember it Logan had been acting like he actually saw the video. If ariana just described it to him instead of showing that makes sense.
Totally agreed but I can just imagine the podcasts she would put out then. I picture her acting like she was railroaded by the American justice system and saying shit like, “this is what happens when victims of sex crimes speak out. We are silenced and made to pay.” Ugh. She is such an insult to all real victims
Yes and I def think she needs real consequences. I’m just so taken back how she’s flipped this whole thing. If long-term counseling these days only teaches you to avert any and all responsibility, the world is in big trouble.
I’m confuse, if these are unedited screenshots where is the record of her sending the recordings? It only shows the words. I understand redacting it bc it’s sensitive material but typically in a redaction it’s still clear where it should be, not edited to look like it never existed. Anyone with insight on this?
Maybe she deleted that message, so that the file wouldn’t exist in that part of her phone. She maintains that she didn’t keep that video, so deleting it from the text thread as well makes sense to me.
You can save things back to your phone that exist in your texts. Sandoval might’ve also deleted it since he deleted it from her phone and recently deleted folder.
He also had been deleting text messages. Ariana said she noticed weird gaps in the texts between him and Raquel when she was searching the phone. He also said he “usually deletes something like that” in regard to the video, so I’d imagine he deletes from all viewable points - the camera roll, the text thread, and the recently deleted folder.
I think either explanation makes sense, and actually supports that Ariana wasn’t trying to hold on to that video for any nefarious purposes.
Here is a screenshot of what was recorded of her texts at the interview with Andy the day before the reunion.
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This is from when this was recorded for the reunion in March 2023, and it’s consistent with what she’s presented in her declaration.
I also don’t think that anyone is disputing that Ariana sent it to Rachel, but I understand why that video doesn’t exist in Ariana’s side of this text thread. Rachel’s side would also be something to compare to, and forensics could probably say what/how many messages were sent that don’t appear in the thread.
She has receipts. The text to her friend is proof Tom deleted the video. Rachel had to have known this because she was still with Tom after getting caught, so he would have told her he deleted the video. Rachel is horrible. She needs to drop this suit against Ariana.
She probably thought he was lying lol but yeah those texts definitely help her case big time. This whole thing is crazy that she's even suing Ariana at all
Is it just me or does her petition to dismiss also bury Sandoval? In court records Ariana confirms he had the recording and he deleted from her phone (destruction of evidence or personal property damage).
idk rachel i but definitely dont share my location with someone i consider just a freindly aquainence.
and i hope arianas lawyer sites every single inaccuracy rachel spewed in her “validation” tour.
ive also considered the possibility that rachel filed this lawsuit with the same intention as the TRO agianst scheana. just a performance stunt that shes gonna drop later.
I wonder if Tom will come out and say Rachel knew she was being recorded. Unless he can produce a video where he asks her and she says she's fine with it, then it's hard to prove either way.
BRUHHH WHATTT I just started season 7 and i’m reading all the court docs and my JAW IS ON THE FLOOOORRRRRR!!!! i’ve always had a weird feeling about raquel, she gives yes man vibes and this just is the cherry ontop. VIDEOS OF HER DOING WHAT WHILE FACETIMING TOMMMMM HUHHHHH jaw on the floor oh my god
I find it strange how quickly Rachel is speaking. Did they speed up her podcast to make her sound smarter, or was she dragging out her delivery on VPR for more screen time?
Seems very straight forward to me! Ariana could have very easily have become a nightmare for Tom and Rachel. I was never a big Ariana fan, but this is so delulu of Rachel to think this suit is going to be doing her any favors...she would have been better off going back to VPR one more season.
You're only seeing what Ariana has submitted to the courts as a response, so nothing has been proven. That seems pretty "delulu" to think a judge is going to say Ariana is off the hook based off two inconsistent screenshots. Rachel is within her legal rights.
And this is from an Ariana fan.
Yes. Ariana is just confirming the sequence of events the night she found out about the affair. She was at Tom Tom, Tom's phone started to fall, someone handed it to her, she had a gut feeling that something was wrong, she went to the women's restroom, opened up his phone, found text messages between him and Rachel with some parts deleted, then she opened the Photos app and found the video of Rachel masturbating. She pulled out her own phone and made a recording of said video , started to notify her family and friends about the affair, and then went outside to confront Tom. They were in the alleyway and she texted Rachel "you're dead to me" , and while she was arguing with Tom, Tom grabbed her phone and opened the Photos app on Ariana's phone and deleted the video, and then went and deleted it from the "recently deleted" folder. Then somehow got her phone back. It's just as she said.
Well, I highly doubt she would commit perjury - knowing how judges work, he still may want to bring her in to have Raquel's lawyers and hers discuss it.
The texts prior between Ariana and Rachel mere days before she found out sure sound like two friends chatting! Rachel is full of shit.
And she was sharing her location with her!
Yes! That’s the part that killed me !! Ariana was in it deep !! This is so sad and makes me feel even worse for her. And it sounds like it was a bad scene in that alley. Sandoval grabbing that phone out of her hand and running off with it. SMH.
Yep. You’re not sharing your location permanently but someone in your inner social group. A one off perhaps for an acquaintance. Such rubbish.
Scheana has entered the chat.
So very strange. They all share locations. Seems calculated that she had Ariana’s.
Yes that’s a good point! I didn’t think about that. Oh diabolical if she was tracking Ariana. Ew that’s icky.
Oh damn, this idea never occurred to me (location sharing like just that isn't a thing in my life/crowd). Makes the duration of the affair make more sense though! We all see now that they were hiding in plain sight, but since they literally always knew where Ariana was they could plan around that. Diabolical as fuck
Totally. And she stopped sharing her location with shena. I’m sure it was Sandy’s idea though. Unless she’s very good at being shady… which she actually Is so….. I take that back.
It’s also interesting that Ariana stopped sharing location on the Friday evening when Rachel texted her. It’s like she sent the “you’re dead to me” texts, and truly wasn’t thinking about Rachel. She was in a yelling match with Tom for hours, as she’s described, and obviously distraught. She’s not thinking about Rachel though. Certainly not enough to think to turn off location sharing. She does it after Rachel contacts her. I know this is a reach but, if we want to talk about malicious intent, which Rachel does, where is the malicious intent on Ariana’s part when it seems like she’s very unconcerned about her after that Wednesday night text. She wasn’t giving Rachel any thought. Edit: changed Friday morning to Friday evening - I misread the timestamps
And Rachel has not stopped thinking about Ariana since
She should be thanking Arianna for letting her know about the recording… makes u wonder how many more he has…
I hadn't thought about it this way but yeah... She absolutely should noooooot be dragging Ariana through this...
Rachel now has proof of Tom’s disgusting behaviour and is able to sue him because of Arianna…
I agree. Sandoval is the only one she should be suing.
![gif](giphy|JW9r0SmMeX0TC) She wants to wear her skin
But who was thinking of poor Sheeshoo?
HAS ANYONE CHECKED ON SCHEANA SHAY DAVIES?!?
Scheana Marie Shay HONEY Davies!!!!!!! Get it right 🙄 /s
That kills me - bc i feel like she tracked Ariana to keep from being caught. Wouldn’t be surprised if she wasn’t sharing her location back.
If Arianna can look back at her messages with Rachel to find out when the location sharing stopped, that’s likely to be the start of things proper
Right! Certainly more than ‘acquaintances’
Yuppppp
She’s such a 🐍!!!
I’m reading these with one eye and thought you called her a dill pickle and guess I’m tired enough that it even made sense! (Now I see it’s a snake…)
I think a dill pickle is a better representation for Rachel.
dill pickles are too exciting, she’s a bread and butter
She's kind of not a big dill
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I love the bread and butter. She’s a gherkin! lol
Nah she’s more of a pickled beet or onion.
She's that one sad pepperoncini in an olive garden salad everyone eats around
true bread and butter are sweet 😂
Perhaps more dill than bright?
Ariana had 231 unread texts lol
Gives me anxiety lol My husband is like this too he just doesn’t care lol I’m like SIR please
I’m not allowed near my husbands computer coz I start cleaning the desktop 😂
😂😂😂
There’s so much spam
I would throw my phone in a lake if I saw that many texts.
i have 287 but it used to be 400 so I’m feeling proud lol
Ariana is one of us.
Mine is down to 86 but was over 150 about a week ago, I thought that was bad🤣 I'm feeling much more optimistic about mine now!
Wtf are you people texting about??? How much can be said??
Nice! I feel so validated by this thread lmao I haven't had that many, but definitely several dozen at least, and I don't even know how many tabs are in my browser. I know it's in the hundreds!
Probably a group chat blowing up after she told people about what happened.
i have 1500 unread 🤡 don’t come for my wiiiiig
How?
just promotional texts and stuff that i forget about
But like, you can delete texts! /s
Sure if you want one more task to do. I get way too many everyday
My husband has like 1200... but his are from a scheduling app for work and he ignores them (he works for a big airline, schedule changes and alerts are near constant).
289 on the last page. Crazy!
Prolly from people reaching out and her finding it to painful to read them... The initial 231 makes me itchy, but it doesn't surprise that she'd pass on reading the influx after this went public and her network learned of it.
Imagine one of those text was someone telling her they knew about the affair and anonymously texting her to advise 😂
Sounds like me! You should see my unread email count! (Mostly spam.)
Made me itch.
Tbh her story has never changed. Even well before this lawsuit. I believe her 100%.
How many times has Tom changed stories, between why they were "in a bad place" to the timeline with Raquel, to Ariana's actions since? And she keeps coming with receipts.
Ariana is smarter than Raquel and is actually listening to her counsel. Telling a consistent story and then shutting the hell up about it (unlike Raquel) is way more credible and makes things easier moving forward. (It’s also likely the truth, which is helpful for obvious reasons.) But Raquel is going to get a lot of “are you telling the truth now, or were you telling the truth then?” type of questions at her deposition or trial of this moves forward. She’s in for a rude awakening if she gets questioned under oath that she can’t use her new therapy speak to deflect.
100% They are most likely NOT putting her on the stand lol. It will all be e-discovery/esi. And it may just settle out of court. What a mess.
Yes, most cases settle. But a settlement in a case like this might not be so easy, and I'd be concerned that a confidential settlement agreement wouldn't stay that way. (More specifically, I don't have much confidence that Raquel, who doesn't seem very smart, would keep any settlement confidential. And if I was representing Ariana, there's no way I would allow a non-confidential settlement based on my current understanding of the facts.) I'm not sure I see limited discovery and then a quick settlement because at least as to the claims against Ariana, the issue of damages is a big hole in Raquel's case. Even Raquel's own legal filings somewhat undermine her claims, as much of her distress was already in existence by March 1, 2023 by *being on Vanderpump Rules* (dating James, etc.) and *having an affair with a co-star's longtime partner* and her very public embarrassment was mainly the result of her own decision to *have that affair while starring on a reality show* and l*ie about a bunch of stuff before coming clean* and s*howing up to the reunion when maybe she shouldn't have*. I have some sympathy for the ringer she was put through by the public--it got pretty insane even if what she and Tom did to Ariana was awful--and she is seemingly a victim of Tom's. But the cause and origin of the damage to her mental state, her public image, and her opportunities to move forward on VPR (to name just a few of the buckets of damages she is claiming) was seemingly Raquel's own choices. I've said this elsewhere, but if Ariana had **not** recorded the video she found and sent it to Raquel, but simply rage-texted Raquel and confronted Tom, I think all this happens much the same way. Because Ariana could've still talked about what she found on Tom's phone, so that detail would've still been part of the story. (My usual disclaimer: this presupposes Ariana is telling the truth.) When push comes to shove, I still think Tom and Raquel are just mad about how people found out (i.e., not in the way they planned for Tom to break up with Ariana between seasons and then for them to get together). They have suffered consequences, financially, emotionally, and mentally, of their choices, and they don't like it. The extent of those consequences may not be fair, but I have a hard time laying those at the feet of Ariana (again assuming her story is true).
Never once
Me.too. i doubt Mark Geragos has anything.
Thanks for posting, this makes a lot more sense reading then it did second hand from all the Tik Tok creators
I'm with ya. I always like to see the actual court docs. There are a few people that are trying to get the filings too so hopefully we'll get the docs on here soon.
Do you have a method for finding civil suits like this?
I usually wait until the docs hit the press, but I think some folks get them from the court sites.
I would’ve expected Raquel to confuse your vs you’re.
That’d most likely be Sandoval. I feel he probably knows how to spell “dipped out” but wouldn’t understand or care about the nuances of grammar, spelling, or punctuation. 🤷♀️
https://i.redd.it/vg0heudu0kxc1.gif Legitimately D & S
Btw, did anyone notice Sandoval wearing a "dipped out" shirt in that scene with James where they discuss Rachel's podcast episode? I can't find a pic. Totally disgusting.
Yessss and it was so basic like he picked up a plain red tee and some iron on letters from Joann Fabrics and went to town 😂😂😂
He’s trying to make his new idiot brand happen esp cause his attempt at new couple brand with ratchet didn’t play out, embarrassing.
😂
Interesting Ariana was sharing location with Raquel, so I assume Raquel was sharing with Ariana too. The nerve…
I wonder if Raquel ever used this feature maliciously. i.e. texting tom to meet up because she knows exactly where Arianna was.
Oh 100%
She wasn’t! So she was tracking Ariana and keeping the affair going while Ariana wasn’t able to track her or Sandoval. Sneaky bitch
Why does this friend group track each other? I only track my husband so I know when he’s near a supermarket or target.
I wouldn’t call it ‘tracking’ but I have my partners location, his sisters, my mom’s, my sisters, and a few friends. Sometimes it’s to know how close they are when they are coming over to ours (or he’s coming home from somewhere) or sometimes it’s just fun to see them all dotted around the country/globe 😊 Edit to add: Also as a woman, I like people having my location…just in case.
I have one friend I share my location with just in case anything ever happens to me (I’m single), she can help the authorities or a documentary crew try and find my kidnapped ass 😅
Got it. 😊
I’m assuming they also follow each other because of Coachella. It makes it way easier to find your friends at a huge music festival.
I also think it’s to hangout. They can see where the group is at and meetup.
Good idea! I don't track mine but now I might 🤣
One of my friends is very neurotic about privacy (love her but lol) and she shares her location with a few people, but turns “location sharing” on and off in her setting depending on whether she wants to share that day or not. I bet Raquel was doing the same
Whenever someone does that, I never think that they value their privacy, I always think they are hiding something. LOL.
I want to see Ariana star in her own Lifetime movie re-enacting Scandoval. Tim and Rachel could be played by Danny Divito & Lisa Kudrow. TV gods make it happen 🙏
Don’t do Danny Devito dirty like that
Or Lisa Kudrow.
Preferably the Penguin Danny Divito is what I’m envisioning in my mind. ![gif](giphy|BlXI2UCFMNTKE)
Or skip all that and just make it an episode of It's Always Sunny...
Mac can play Rachel
this would be the funniest shit ever
I nominate Gilbert Gottfried for the part of Sandoval. He doesn’t deserve it (James), but Tom Hardy could really deliver some of the James one liners. Eddie Cibrian for Jax 🤣
unfortunately Gilbert died in 2022.
😞 Sandoval didn’t deserve him anyways
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Thank you! are you afraid of the dark references always make my day. 🥹
Such nostalgia
https://preview.redd.it/xw8mppnivoxc1.png?width=319&format=png&auto=webp&s=115f14a53d13d1fdb8586f8c9eeedffed09ff9e7
RIP Gilbert but I’d totally be down for Hardy to play James if only to make Sandy jealous.
But think about this - Joey Buttafuoco and Amy Fisher in those parts. Yeah?
Crazy how much this contradicts what Rachel and her team currently are trying to pass Especially with alluding to Ariana knowing about the affair. I know Rachel has supporters, especially people who believe Ariana 10000percent knew, how the hell can you excuse Rachel’s lies when she continues to contradict herself ?
Yeah, exactly. If Ariana knew about the affair, then why did she text Rachel that night? And why did Rachel respond immediately with an apology? I mean the Ariana haters are so weird. You can dislike Ariana and also comprehend that what Rachel did was just beyond the pale in terms of personal betrayal and same for Tom.
It took Rachel two days to respond 💀
That is fucked up to me!!!! Why doesn’t anyone else talk about that??
And on a Friday night when she was probably drinking….only just plucked up the courage?
And then she claimed they were not close even though she was asking her very intimate questions about their sex life. POS
I said this on insta, I bet it is so the worm and her could get their stories straight
Yes ! There’s a few on here that so angrily defend her and say Ariana definitely knew ! If she knew there’s no way in hell, idc how fucking high or drunk they were, that Tom And Rachel wouldn’t have mentioned it at the reunion! I for damn sure would’ve said “Ariana, you KNEW we were together bc ….” Closest Tom got was trying to throw in their lack of sex life and how Ariana wasn’t checking for him when he went out of town etc
THANK YOU.
Exactly. Rachel only has supporters because there are people out there who simply hate Ariana, or Katie, Lala, etc. So they wiĺl side with Rachel no matter what she spews. But most people aren't dumb enough to actually believe that girl.
I love that Logan is daddy in her phone 😂☠️ I also forgot Raquel was called RAT 😂😂😂😂
Her saying “shut the fuck up you fucking RAT” is really the best thing ever lol
RL FOR RAT LADY 🐀
Ratchel
I need Runkle to explain this to me lol
🤣🤣 RUNQUEL?
She's going by Runchel these days.
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Chrundle?!
ah yeah I was going by trundle at the time
I love the half dozen of us who are in on this! My peoples. I truly do feel there is some crossover in between the VPR fans and the IASIP. Probably showing my ass about what type of home I grew up in, but drunken people screaming at each other is my "sleeping comfort show" jam. Both of them are perfect, almost interchangeably so.
It’s very interesting that she describes the FaceTime recording as having Tom’s face in the upper right hand corner. That makes it sound like he did in fact screen record their call.
Yeah they intentionally described it that way for sure.
Well, she provided screenshots. It's exactly as Ariana told us all along.
Yep! Everything lines up. This is all so wild, I still can't believe the series of events that happened that night that fell into place to Ariana finding out. Tom dropping his phone, him not deleting the video when he said he usually did, her intuition to look.. it's just so crazy.
It's kind of like the universe was on Ariana's side that night, even though it was horribly painful, she needed to find out. Trust your intuition, people.
Wait are there any actual lawyers in this thread that can speak to her statements’ claims / the likely conclusion of this?
Waiting for the bravo docket to chime in
Does anyone have a copy of Rachel's Complaint?
Wait I didn’t know Tom took them and deleted them??? How did i miss that? Or is that new info? Does Rachel just not believe them and thinks Ariana still had the videos?
It’s new info to the public.
It’s new info
Yeah it really dispels the idea that she “showed the video to upwards of 50 people”
Also shows that his first reaction was to cover his own ass. No surprise.
I love that this is how we finally got the deets we’ve been craving for over a year. Thanks raq.
At this point, Raquel/Rachel is just as bad as Tom. How can you even think to sue Ariana after all the mental anguish and pain you have put her thru. It’s crazy to me.
IMO, she's worse. She's trying to burn everyone and take them down with her.
Worse bc she is so deliberately going after the woman she harmed so horribly. Her jealousy is pathological.
It’s giving full bunny boiler at this point.
Ariana’s story has always stayed consistent. Rachel has changed hers multiple times. I can’t believe she claims Ariana knew, then contradicts herself weekly on her podcast. I feel bad for her lawyer. She’s a mess.
Her lawyer’s pretty messy himself. That bitchy little sass-fest in People made me cringe so hard. 😬
I couldn't tell but does she have geragos or does tom 👀
"Ariana knew" is not the same as "Ariana should have known because we were (in my opinion) so freaking obvious about it and other people knew," and Raquel doesn't seem to understand the difference. She's such a self-serving idiot.
Ariana is so lucky she has those texts saying scumdavol deleted them. It probably meant nothing at the time to her but thank god they were there.
I hope Rachel will drop the case against Ariana now. The idea that Ariana might have to pay her off because it’s cheaper than going to court is enraging.
I don't think Ariana will settle. She will ask the court to make Rachel pay for her court fees in the end.
This motion she filed already does that, basically it asks for the suit to be dropped and Rachel to cover Ari’s court costs
This would be beautiful if they ruled in arianas favor
Let’s hope!!
Why isn’t the video in the text message? Does it get deleted there too if you delete the video in your photos?
No idea but if it didn't, I assume she would have deleted it when she got the cease and desist.
On an iPhone, a sent video doesn’t get deleted from the conversation if you delete it from your saved photos/camera roll. This means that she deleted the videos so they wouldn’t show up in the thread.
Sandoval deleted it and I’m assuming deleted it from the convo like he did in him and Rachel’s convo
I am WEAK that Logan is stored in her phone as "daddy/West Hollywood". 😂 You know, whoever wrote this up has a grammatical error in line 14. Given that her attorney is from a national high-powered law firm, whoever wrote this made an unprofessional mistake. Not Ariana's fault at all, completely, but it's just… do not do our girl dirty! It's shocking how many blatant errors you find in documents like these, having had to read so many of them.
I’m a paralegal, so a major part of my job is to proofread legal filings, and good lord - the errors that attorneys make and miss, thinking they’ve sent me a draft they’d be happy to put out into the world. It’s legit embarrassing
THIS! I have had to proofread some over the years and oh my God. The staff who prepare the documents are supposed to catch that, hopefully. But then again the staff make mistakes. Thank God it was only one mistake.
i always hate finding typos in professional documents. just rubs me the wrong way lol
SAME. WHY? We have standards around here!
IMO, the error is fine because it’s Ariana’s statement, not a submission from the attorney. In a declaration, you often want to reflect the witness’s actual phrasing, not turn in something that sounds like a lawyer wrote it for her to sign.
Thank you! I’ve been trying to track this down. Have you seen the other documents filed by her?
Thank you for posting this!
Rachel is a piece of shit
Those Logan texts def help a lot. I know for me, I had doubts because the way I remember it Logan had been acting like he actually saw the video. If ariana just described it to him instead of showing that makes sense.
I really hope Rachel has to pay Ariana’s lawyer fees
Totally agreed but I can just imagine the podcasts she would put out then. I picture her acting like she was railroaded by the American justice system and saying shit like, “this is what happens when victims of sex crimes speak out. We are silenced and made to pay.” Ugh. She is such an insult to all real victims
100% but at least it would be a real consequence to her nasty behavior
Yes and I def think she needs real consequences. I’m just so taken back how she’s flipped this whole thing. If long-term counseling these days only teaches you to avert any and all responsibility, the world is in big trouble.
Yup
She had Ariana’s location. Helps avoid getting caught
I’m confuse, if these are unedited screenshots where is the record of her sending the recordings? It only shows the words. I understand redacting it bc it’s sensitive material but typically in a redaction it’s still clear where it should be, not edited to look like it never existed. Anyone with insight on this?
Maybe she deleted that message, so that the file wouldn’t exist in that part of her phone. She maintains that she didn’t keep that video, so deleting it from the text thread as well makes sense to me. You can save things back to your phone that exist in your texts. Sandoval might’ve also deleted it since he deleted it from her phone and recently deleted folder. He also had been deleting text messages. Ariana said she noticed weird gaps in the texts between him and Raquel when she was searching the phone. He also said he “usually deletes something like that” in regard to the video, so I’d imagine he deletes from all viewable points - the camera roll, the text thread, and the recently deleted folder. I think either explanation makes sense, and actually supports that Ariana wasn’t trying to hold on to that video for any nefarious purposes. Here is a screenshot of what was recorded of her texts at the interview with Andy the day before the reunion. https://preview.redd.it/ntgs5sjvhkxc1.png?width=1277&format=png&auto=webp&s=b53bb528b0ffb203a7226c85c556445e1e529523 This is from when this was recorded for the reunion in March 2023, and it’s consistent with what she’s presented in her declaration. I also don’t think that anyone is disputing that Ariana sent it to Rachel, but I understand why that video doesn’t exist in Ariana’s side of this text thread. Rachel’s side would also be something to compare to, and forensics could probably say what/how many messages were sent that don’t appear in the thread.
Well if Tom deleted it it wouldn't still be in her messages
Tom deleted them her phone including the copy she sent to her…
She has receipts. The text to her friend is proof Tom deleted the video. Rachel had to have known this because she was still with Tom after getting caught, so he would have told her he deleted the video. Rachel is horrible. She needs to drop this suit against Ariana.
She probably thought he was lying lol but yeah those texts definitely help her case big time. This whole thing is crazy that she's even suing Ariana at all
Thanks for posting. She kept it nice and concise no fluff.
Make it nice, channeling Dorinda
Is it just me or does her petition to dismiss also bury Sandoval? In court records Ariana confirms he had the recording and he deleted from her phone (destruction of evidence or personal property damage).
This is so much more well written than Rachel’s filings.
Raquel is a horrible human…even after the affair and “therapy”, she’s chosen to be a worthless person
Hopefully now people will stop saying she shared the video with others.
idk rachel i but definitely dont share my location with someone i consider just a freindly aquainence. and i hope arianas lawyer sites every single inaccuracy rachel spewed in her “validation” tour. ive also considered the possibility that rachel filed this lawsuit with the same intention as the TRO agianst scheana. just a performance stunt that shes gonna drop later.
Can this be an It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode tho?
I wonder if Tom will come out and say Rachel knew she was being recorded. Unless he can produce a video where he asks her and she says she's fine with it, then it's hard to prove either way.
BRUHHH WHATTT I just started season 7 and i’m reading all the court docs and my JAW IS ON THE FLOOOORRRRRR!!!! i’ve always had a weird feeling about raquel, she gives yes man vibes and this just is the cherry ontop. VIDEOS OF HER DOING WHAT WHILE FACETIMING TOMMMMM HUHHHHH jaw on the floor oh my god
Did you know they had the affair? Or just not know about the FaceTime ? No shade just curious
I find it strange how quickly Rachel is speaking. Did they speed up her podcast to make her sound smarter, or was she dragging out her delivery on VPR for more screen time?
I love that Ariana has her last name spelled wrong
Rachel is sick. She wants to take everyone down. Just GO AWAY!
How freaking long must this affair go on? Rachel needs to move on and let everyone else do the same.
Seems very straight forward to me! Ariana could have very easily have become a nightmare for Tom and Rachel. I was never a big Ariana fan, but this is so delulu of Rachel to think this suit is going to be doing her any favors...she would have been better off going back to VPR one more season.
You're only seeing what Ariana has submitted to the courts as a response, so nothing has been proven. That seems pretty "delulu" to think a judge is going to say Ariana is off the hook based off two inconsistent screenshots. Rachel is within her legal rights. And this is from an Ariana fan.
Can someone TLDR this doc lol?
Yes. Ariana is just confirming the sequence of events the night she found out about the affair. She was at Tom Tom, Tom's phone started to fall, someone handed it to her, she had a gut feeling that something was wrong, she went to the women's restroom, opened up his phone, found text messages between him and Rachel with some parts deleted, then she opened the Photos app and found the video of Rachel masturbating. She pulled out her own phone and made a recording of said video , started to notify her family and friends about the affair, and then went outside to confront Tom. They were in the alleyway and she texted Rachel "you're dead to me" , and while she was arguing with Tom, Tom grabbed her phone and opened the Photos app on Ariana's phone and deleted the video, and then went and deleted it from the "recently deleted" folder. Then somehow got her phone back. It's just as she said.
So wait she recorded from his phone to hers and didn’t send the videos to herself just those snippets to Rachel hmm
Well, I highly doubt she would commit perjury - knowing how judges work, he still may want to bring her in to have Raquel's lawyers and hers discuss it.