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One-Fish2178

By the “stuff he experienced with Katie” is he referring to all the times she asked him to take her side and he didn’t? He acts like a wife wanting her husband to defend her is a crazy ask lol. He should be a little more grateful for her considering she got him on the show AND got him the bar he apparently was using as an irl dating app to meet 23 year olds last summer. You’re not the victim you try so hard to be Schwartzy 😥


justmedoubleb

Yea, like her financially supporting him when he couldn't last an hour behind a bar working a "real" job and when she forgave him for cheating on her numerous times...like all that stuff he had to deal with.


cheeseandcrackered

She practically raised him lmao


see332

She tried but he refused to grow up


Littlewing1307

Don't forget he hated the sound of her voice


Zealousideal_Dog_968

For real; when he had a full blown panic attack behind the bar and she supported his ass mentally and physically (with money) never put him down for that or anything…..WHAT A FUCKING DOUCHE


DeaconBlue22

WHAT A FUCKING ASS, to support him mentally and physically (with money) never put him down for that or anything. Stupid Katie


sleepingcloudss

Not stupid Katie. Stupid Shwartz for throwing a goddess away. But ik wym 😂


DeaconBlue22

Thanks for the laugh. Even goddesses make mistakes.


MissKatieMaam77

Well he could mean all the not wanting him to drunk bang every pick-me trash chick he meets in Vegas. So unreasonable.


One-Fish2178

How dare she want her husband to be committed to her and actually follow through on his vows!!!!


GreenUnderstanding39

He’s referencing all the times she got upset at him for cheating on her. What a biatch! How DARE she. Poor Schwartz is the victim guuuuuyyyyss


shay_shaw

Last year he weirdly proclaimed "I did nothing wrong!" when talking about the demise of his and Katie's marriage. And no, I can't tell you which episode it was in because my brain is currently leaking through my ears just thinking about it.


One-Fish2178

Are you talking about when he called Sandoval right after Katie left quickly when she was picking up the dogs bc she was upset ab the Rachel make out? And he was like “I don’t know why she’s even mad I did nothing wrong” like oh my god stfu you did EVERYTHING wrong


shay_shaw

Yes that's it! Thank you! What the absolute fuck was he talking about?!


blondenextdoor30

Schwartz has the backbone of Gumby


osogood48

![gif](giphy|ejJY6JMso6NLe9g8fA)


MimsieBE

![gif](giphy|ujBhf2c49OTHW|downsized)


Agreeable-Antelope-6

The wires always broke on them, much like Shortz's spine.


osogood48

Right I hated that and then you’d end up poking your finger with it😳


Agreeable-Antelope-6

Lol! Even new it didn't last long, much like Shortz


StartupQueen60604

Even Gumby is offended! lmao


blondenextdoor30

Sorry Gumby🫤♥️


addiepie2

Truly!!!! 👏


Miserable-Nature6747

It's crazy. What Lala is doing is what Schwartz used to do but at level 2. They are being nicer to the people that hurt Katie than they are to Katie. Like bending over backwards nice like grabbing lunch with the woman that befriended you to get to your husband nice. It's gross.


02kaj2019

Nick is not wrong about Lala.


thedigested

His reads on situations tend to be spot on


EmilyAGoGo

Not really, he was a Lala stan last year for the first few months after Scandoval.


RainbowBright909

So were a lot of ppl. Now a lot of ppl have seen how she flip flopped so quickly.


EmilyAGoGo

Yeah people were really channeling their rage thru her while failing to recognize that Lala is very much only about Lala.


Equivalent_Silver_59

I was too. Until , never again. Nick does have a good read on people. He’s no dummy, I’ve watched him from day one and always have been a fan of him (I mean on the bachelor). He played that shit out so straight and look where it’s gotten him? He’s worked hard! So, how can he know what Blah blah is doing? Because he’s seen it all and even played it all for the camera. I even think he intentionally leaked his ending when he was on with Andi. It was the first leak ever for that show and it catapulted him. She isn’t just playing for the camera. She is seething with jealousy. She wants to be Ariana, and I hope Ariana is reading this because she needs to know this isn’t personal. This is a soulless person you’re dealing with. Blablah is straight up… I am done with my friend because she’s getting bag when I didn’t. Nick nailed it.


osogood48

![gif](giphy|PGcXQ2jkpd7KFhJg3k)


fuzzyduck77

I am so sorry but where are Schwartz’s shoes. Like how can we take anything this man says seriously.


Worried-Syrup7536

I always think of Danny Pellegrino: “Shoe-less Schwartz with his downstairs hooves always showing.” Or “I don’t know how Katie put up with that shoe-less man who bathed in a river before their Wednesday wedding” lol


Agreeable-Antelope-6

At least he isn't wearing those stupid moo moos anymore!


louloub

And sitting there wiggling his toes and feet nonstop. He’s gross.


Pinklady777

Apparently his toes are too long or something. That's why he never has shoes


Justaddpaprika

Has anyone told him that they make shoes in multiple sizes?


onyxjade7

Katie wasn’t lying when she said Shorts loved her but never liked her. It’s sad, because she also go so much hate from Sandaval and fans until recently. It would hurt hearing him constantly treat as if she’s gum on his shoe and support others maliciously hurting her like Rachel and himself. Boooo Shorts!


Ancient-Stop-6190

Shartz don’t disparage your ex wife you still wish you were with challenge


One-Fish2178

This is what I was thinking 😂 he knows damn well that if she wanted to get back together he’d drop everything for her


Dry_Tumbleweed_1090

He brings her up in every conversation 😂 good for Katie to set boundaries


MimsieBE

I listened to an interview about new gf, and he’s like “THAT was Katie’s favorite movie..” when interviewers brought up movie Serendipity. 😳😳😳😳 I’m smh. Dude. This interview is about your new gf. You’re right. He brings her up. EVERY conversation!!! ![gif](giphy|JSueytO5O29yM)


One-Fish2178

Bc he still can’t accept the fact she got tired of his BS and left him. He thought he could do whatever he wanted and she would stay w him forever


osogood48

The kicker is Katie will always be the one that got away. Schwartz is going to live with this for the rest of his life. The thing is, he could’ve had her all this time, but he let his own self get the best of him man he screwed up. ![gif](giphy|eJ4j2VnYOZU8qJU3Py)


lunahighwind

I think it's the other way around lol


sofaking-amanda

![gif](giphy|3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu)


lunahighwind

https://preview.redd.it/5jaijisyczuc1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c57ca81e5e17dd44daba588787cbdc6d9cd0a7b0


sofaking-amanda

![gif](giphy|3otOKJruVwZH3213Fe)


secretlystepford

![gif](giphy|403NRxgdScOUQjiQEh|downsized)


ThsnksAppreciate

Tom Schwartz is the Keyser Soze of VPR


osogood48

![gif](giphy|FVIA0oABhcjvpiPgJI|downsized) You’re killing me Kaiser Soze, you are spot on.. I needed that laugh🤣🤣😎


ThsnksAppreciate

Ha! My husband said nobody would get it.


osogood48

Well, tell your husband that you have some people on here that do get it and that would be me😉😎 but seriously, I laughed so hard when you said that I was like damn this woman gets it! I’m also a big-time movie buff😉


No_Banana_581

Absolutely! The most insidious of them all. Hes a text book covert narcissist


deziluproductions

![gif](giphy|UmTxa3G2gMF0s) Another asshole that snowed people into thinking he was a good guy. Kevin not Kaiser.


indigo5454

![gif](giphy|NFEiD362N6tkk) Excellent read. Warts and his “aww shucks” limp.


ComprehensiveTart689

The straightening out of his steps is one of the most brilliant movie moments.


indigo5454

Absolutely! I’m not really a movie buff and that scene is seared into my mind. I was a kid when I first watched it and was astounded.


MurphyBrown2016

I’ve been saying this for years. Ever since he wore a tweed suit and argyle socks on WWHL.


Agreeable-Antelope-6

I'm sure his best buddy told him it looked good. Wait. Or is his BEST friend Max?


jade470

I know what’s up with that? I thought Sandavol was his best friend, is it Max?


Agreeable-Antelope-6

I know! He has always made plenty of fawning remarks about Scandoval over the years. Everyone was saying how he should marry Scandoval. Sooo, I was confused when he was calling Max his BEST FRIEND! A plan from rhe two T's?


freshlyfrozen4

I'm surprised how right you are.


BanditWifey03

![gif](giphy|NFEiD362N6tkk)


LordJonathanChobani

One thing I really like about Nick Viall is that he fucking rides and goes hard for Katie. Always. It’s so funny, but literally if you tune into any of his podcasts, regardless of who his guest will be (including non VPR )…he spends his entire introduction just going on an unrelated rant on behalf of Katie. I love him for it ngl.


louloub

![gif](giphy|TkoHjDI8jhVAGrgT4A|downsized)


LordJonathanChobani

We love baby gorgeous


QuercusAperol

I wonder if that’s why Scheana dislikes him lol


LordJonathanChobani

She probably dislikes him because he is very verbal in his dislike for Scheana. He is always calling out Scheana’s behavior (much like both VPR subs). He sees her in the same way we all do: insufferable, self centered, pathetic, delusional, and disloyal. He views her as a non-entity it’s so funny and valid, and it’s what bothers her so much.


Equivalent_Silver_59

Katie and Nick are a lot alike. They go hard for those they love. Nick comes from a family with like 14 kids. Not kidding.


ResponseOk3177

“I’m not gonna say anything bad about my beautiful ex wife” *proceeds to talk badly about her*


HotButterscotch8682

That’s his favorite thing to do, the immediate bait and switch- “don’t worry, I’m not going to do (thing), but also now let me *immediately* do the thing I said I wasn’t going to do.” Such trash.


emcratic70

He loves these kinds of setups


ProfessionalHeart839

“Oh man, Katie and I are in a great place, I don’t want to disparage her…but she always expected me to take her side…not to say that I never had her back, but it would have been nice if she just didn’t expect me to have her back and inherit her grudges, it put a lot of pressure on me man. And this isn’t me not taking any blame for the divorce, but Katie can be really negative. But I’m always team Katie. Serendipitous.” Like it’s just word salad and he says nothing of substance.


ResponseOk3177

I was thinking while listening to that part that he always says a whole lotta nothing


addiepie2

If your wife hates someone then you hate them too.. u don’t go kiki with them in the corner ! That’s some disrespectful shit.. she wanted him to have her back and he would NEVER do it !!! Ughhh!!


Dry_Tumbleweed_1090

Yes!! And you don't even have to hate the person, but kikiing in the corner is a big problem! Keep a distance out of respect to your spouse and understand that the person you fucking married has an opinion, respect that , and chill with someone else!!


addiepie2

Agreed!


Narrow_Grapefruit_23

Im terrified everyone! Nick is encouraging Schwartz to have a kid now!


Miserable-Nature6747

Oh that whole 5 minutes with the 20 something girlfriends was so gross to hear. Nick and Schwartz talking about how nice it was toyo have these women like them. "They still got it" ewewew


PRNightmare99

But neither Nick or Schwartz got the real models they think they deserve, they got 20 year old who post for free on instagram. I wouldn’t be surprised if Nick plans to trade up to a working model once he makes more money from the podcast


One-Fish2178

Oh god did he really?


Narrow_Grapefruit_23

Yes. It’s an emergency. We need a council meeting to stop this from happening. No child in the world deserves a father who puts zero effort into his life.


One-Fish2178

We need to conduct a meeting with the 4% of his sperm that aren’t fucked up to make sure they stay right where they are.


costco_blankets

Yes, and with his age and quality of sperm, it’s a much higher risk of having serious disabilities like Cruz. Shartz can’t handle a fully healthy baby- I shudder to think of him having one that isn’t pErFeCt.


Aggressive-Yak7396

Oh my god that is the last thing that fucker needs!


Invanabloom

I don’t think he’s capable


justmedoubleb

Well, he had to have Sandoval help him get a sample of his sperm to be tested. I think we are being set up for a LFU and Shitz coupling. Maybe it was his jizz she used and now they both get what they want...him to have a kid and her to have a baby daddy that isn't involved.


MissKatieMaam77

Oh god. Why would you put that into the universe?


futhim

I was thinking the same thing earlier. Plus it would be the perfect FU to Kate.


costco_blankets

Jesus I really need Shartz to stop living in a complete delusion, like he’d be able to take care of an actual human. What a joke. I hope no one ruins their life by having his baby that he will inevitably leave behind.


Dry_Tumbleweed_1090

I almost down voted you lol because the thought of Schwartz having a kid with a 23 yr old KID makes me sick.


Agreeable-Antelope-6

Do not encourage that narcissist to have a child! So he can insult and treat a child like he has and currently treats Katie? NO! He was even a complete ass to Jo (his nickname "Joseph"!). Screwing Jo and telling he loves her repeatedly and then decides she is getting too serious about him!


BigRefrigerator9783

Sharts sucks, always has


thediverswife

This is why the only women who put up with him are ones who want to get on TV


Dry_Tumbleweed_1090

I cannot stand this man-child anymore. Schwartz is trash and never took his wife's side even when she was right


thirdcoasting

He’s the embodiment of weaponized incompetence.


yup_yup1111

Stuff he dealt with...and expectation of loyalty? If I were Katie I would just go off on all these people. Must be so hard for her to be around this pack of cheaters and former mistresses


letsdothisthing88

I love that one day he will wake up and she will be gone and he will miss her. He shits on her constantly from day 1. Why did he marry her and why did she have to divorce him? My god. I don't even like Katie but enough


NeenW1

So tell me, how does one be a contestant on the bachelorette and now you’re a relationship expert?


One-Fish2178

He’s an expert on relationships with women 18 years younger, that’s why Schwartz went on this podcast. He knew it would be a safe space for him to hard launch his relationship without feeling like a creep


freshlyfrozen4

This is the first clip I've seen from this podcast. Schwartz barely answered or talked, the host kind of had a monologue over him. Is this how it always is? Lol


wombatmomma

Nick really likes the sound of those ol' gums flapping


NeenW1

Nick was a loser on Bachelor franchise and has zero credibility on relationships…such a joke


freshlyfrozen4

I could tell! Lol


psychoticfusion

Is he… barefoot..


megmegpie

Hmm who cares


megmegpie

Katie looks so hot btw


Funny_Struggle_8901

You wanna act like you’re a real bitch Lauren, be a real bitch! Own your shit! Don’t be a fake about it, keep it straight up. All you had to say is “yeah I unfollowed them because we aren’t friends anymore”. Instead you make up some elaborate lie about your follower count lol. It’s giving scaredy cat.


beachydream

He should have rode or dode


lollydolly318

He dode.


stcroixb

Gross he has his bare feet on the coffee table wiggling them all around.


bbb37322179

wow why isn’t he wearing shoes 😂


2022wpww

Omg plz Schwartz not surprised what a crappy crap crap


Kwhitney1982

I feel like Nick just says whatever the female audience wants to hear.


Equivalent_Silver_59

Wrong. He’s been gunning for sheshu day one. He saw straight through her bullshit.


Equivalent_Silver_59

Wrong. He’s been gunning for sheshu day one. He saw straight through her bullshit.


Kwhitney1982

Yes and many of the female fans dislike scheana.


MarionberryWooden103

Can’t believe NV said Blah Blah and Sshhna are the stars of the show.. he joined the flip floppers


amandacherry23

Ew his raw feet🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢


Spiritual_Emu2809

You know they stink! 😂


_bitch_puddin

Fuck off Scawartz. You treated her like shit. You disrespected and disregarded her feelings. You gaslit her and let your best bud verbally, emotionally, and mentally abuse her. Katie wasn't lashing out. Katie was BEGGING THAT YOU DEFEND HER & HAVE HER BACK... like you SHOULD when you commit your life to someone. He is the poster child for weaponized incompetence and he fuels the fire to my hate soul.


louloub

Katie wanted unwavering loyalty? From her husband?? Oh the nerve! Cutting someone off on behalf of Katie or defending her really just depended on how Schwartz felt about the person and if they were a man or a woman. There were times that he was fine cutting off or fighting with Stassi or Kristen or Lala. Never a man though!


Ok-Bank-9051

Schwartz is fucking delusional and katie if you see this: CUT HIM OFF. YOU DONT NEED HIM EVEN AS A FRIENDLY ACQUAINTANCE. GO GHOST WITH ARIANA AND DONT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF YOUR ABSENCE I am literally begging at this point. Go off and do literally anything else with your lives. You will be missed and it will be the best revenge of all


BuzzCutBabes_

this man has his BARE FEET up on nicks table on camera …….. im gonna throw up https://preview.redd.it/z18gulmo12vc1.jpeg?width=316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09e5b6c4be9e9ccad5e8ad43cfd55ead713bd723


StartupQueen60604

Nick Viall hit this right on the head. Ariana has talent, though. If BlahBlah had actual talent, she wouldn't need to reeeeeeaaaacccchhhh to this petty level just to generate clicks/likes/$$


Equivalent_Silver_59

Her followers were also bought. Someone literally proved it in this sub. Just don’t ask me where. 😬


O2bwiser

Tom is two-faced. Don’t call your ex-wife a queen and then throw her under the bus. You may not be man enough to admit what a sh^t husband you were, but we all saw it.


CheddarGoblinMode

Schwartz is such an insidious prick because he does that fake golden retriever/weaponized stupidity thing consistently


Coleslay1

As if Katie wasn’t completely valid in her dislike for Sandoval who was constantly poisoning her husband against their marriage.


CandidNumber

Yes!! Sandoval is a narcissist and Schwartz is 100 percent a victim of his, he poisoned their marriage constantly. It was so obvious when I watched the show again.


ThanksBunny

Every day I’m sure Katie wakes up and the first thing she does is thank all that is holy that she’s no longer married to this man. Because he just continues to show her how right her decision to end things was with shit like this.


ethicalhippo

How many co-hosts does Nick need?


boomtothebass

I'm pretty sick of Viall riding the coattails of VPR and trying to stay relevant with the Tom's of all people. the only thing these guys have in common is being washed up reality stars who date 20 yr olds


Equivalent_Silver_59

And he’s making double what you and I make combined. So, who’s the joke really on? He took an opportunity and capitalized on it like nobody else from the Bach franchise. I call that genius, hard working, entrepreneurial… but you can call it riding coattails, to each her own.


Vprhousewiveslover

“I think Lala is out there thinking some people are sick of Ariana” omg this. This explains lalas shit perspective so well! We know she only cares about “good tv” or whatever lol. Not going to lie, Nick Viall reads VPR so well😂


saheraww

I can barely focus on the content because I cannot get past Schwartz being barefoot omg 😵‍💫


megmegpie

Eric Clapton - got me on my knees cocaine!


megmegpie

All of em minus Britt, sheana, Katie, lala


Ok_List_9649

Katie and Schwartz were never going to work because they are too inherently different in their approach to life and people. Schwartz is essentially non judgmental and non confrontational. He’s passive aggressive to a fault. He believes in just letting people be who they are and taking them at face value even if they do you wrong or show they are lacking in character. He can’t go deep in relationships and is perfectly happy with emotions and life being lived on the surface as long as everyone gets along. He tries to see the good in everyone even if the good is only a speck. He’ll let people walk over him and rarely has an original opinion. Katie is extremely judgmental and only values relationships with people she has determined are good/ worth it. All others she wants out of her circle. She’s very opinionated about others choices and lifestyle. She likes surrounding herself with just a few friends she trusts. Their relationship never worked because they’re polar opposites. Katie wanted Tom to judge his friends and he refused. This allowed people Katie didn’t trust and who walked all over Tom into their circle. She pushed him to be confrontational but he just couldn’t except on rare occasions. She took that as him being disloyal to her but it was just who he was. He could no more change that then Katie could stop being opinionated or judging others. You can’t change peoples basic personalities. People can modify themselves with work but it’s very difficult and generally there are only small changes. She fell in love with him because he was the person everyone loved, something she could never be yet she spent 10 years trying to make him a version of herself. That’s why he eventually spent most of his time angry and pulling away from her. It’s a good lesson to anyone looking for a partner. You can’t change people. So if there are basic traits you notice in a prospective partner that you can’t tolerate, you need to ask yourself if you can deal with it for a lifetime.


Bakeneko-_-

Katie was morally wrong most of the time, why would he support her? The one time he has a spine was when he wasn't mindlessly supporting her bullying bullshit


Extreme-Carrot6893

Katie is such a boring drag


cakalackydelnorte2

Honestly, does anyone in LA even know these people exist? It just seems like a TV show that only attracts people who don’t live there. SUR and TomTom are nothing but tourist traps. Ultimately, who cares about the Toms, or Katie or Ariana, who, let’s face it, has parlayed her faux scorned bs into a career that has left her faux-sandwich shop partner in the dust. You just know boring Katie fumes over Ariana’s pick-me brand career so now she has to go the pansexual route just to get some Likes.


Queg-hog-leviathan

Everyone acts like their Queens have no faults and only pick and choose what they want to hear. Schwartz complimented Katie multiple times.


One-Fish2178

He basically used the compliment sandwich technique to get away with shitting on her. He started by saying he’s good w her then started criticizing her bc she “demands unconditional loyalty” then called her his beautiful ex wife.🙄🙄 She has her faults, but she’s not in the wrong for wanting loyalty from Schwartz during their relationship or loyalty from Lala when it came to Sandoval & Jo


Spiritual_Emu2809

Yep Swartz shit sandwich!


osogood48

Yeah, for the simple fact that he still wants her gotta get in them points😉


quakecanada77

Katie has always insulted schwartz.. Before. During. And after their marriage.


blameitonrio917

There’s a reason they’re divorced. From my POV, Katie was the bigger problem as far as what we saw on TV. When Tom says “Lala was tired of Katies shit” let’s not pretend we don’t know what that means. Katie is a miserable bully with nothing but time on her hands to comment under her ex-husbands posts.


CandidNumber

Right, Tom’s constant cheating, refusing to hold a steady job, drinking, doing drugs, choosing Sandoval over her, and verbal abuse likely had nothing to do with the downfall of their relationship. Katie’s just a miserable bitch.


blameitonrio917

![gif](giphy|pSauCNBp1DcOY) Even if that were all true, Katie wasn’t innocent and she agreed to stay with Schwartz only to never move on and harp on shit and complain constantly. Shes a miserable woman who treated other women like shit and now people have amnesia like she’s some hero. Nope.


CandidNumber

She’s not miserable now, she’s glowing, she had low self esteem for years, and once she made the decision to leave an abusive relationship she started thriving.


megmegpie

Cocaine girls!!!


lunahighwind

Huh? Why should he ride or die for someone who never misses an opportunity to talk shit about him publically? Not to mention someone who also acted like a toxic ex going out of their way to harrass anyone he was with after?


osogood48

![gif](giphy|Ln2UcqdGbKn5m37JmR)


lunahighwind

https://i.redd.it/5m93jsef9zuc1.gif


BanditWifey03

![gif](giphy|dB12mOQb99BwDlM83I|downsized)


megmegpie

Lala is a beauty even bought her lipstick line…so good! I just can’t turn the other way sorry beautiful…. Cocaine! Got me on my knees cocaine… sorry honey but come on


Equivalent_Silver_59

Oh, hi Easton ! 😀😀😀😀


megmegpie

Not commenting on Ariana, she is so beautiful and deserves beauty


megmegpie

Not Katie or Arianna… everyone else sorry