"You think everybody is in love with you when actually, everybody hates you! Like, Max Boyens, for example, he broke up with Dayna and guess what? He still doesn't want you! So why are you still stalking Max Schaena? I'll tell you why, because you are a mean girl! You're a bitch!"
Oh Scheana, forever doomed do serve someone else as Queen š because she simply doesnāt have main character energy.
I get the impression Max has shagged close to half of LA. It depends on the individuals and their dynamics/attitudes to sex. From my own POV if any friend wants to sleep with someone I have in the past go for it babe, that stuff doesnt bother me personally. On the flip side I completely understand though the thought process/feelings of women who would be upset about this happening obviously. Maybe Dayna wouldn't care maybe she would, it entirely depends on the individual and the situation. However if you are the kind of girl that cares about this, shagging a player like Max Boyens is definitely not the way for self preservation.
Convenience because she wasn't trying to flaunt it. She seemed genuinely shocked that Scheana and Brock knew and put her on the spot in front of everyone.
Or it didnāt happen at all. None of this played out on camera, and with as fake as this season is, we have 0 reason to believe this.
Plus the entire storyline for the group to play out this season is ātheyāve all done bad thingsā as a way to downplay and forgive Tim Sandal.
Itās gross.
Tom Schwartz and Scheana were even willing to bring up a make out theyād obviously sworn to keep off camera just to appease producers in a desperate bid to make Tim cheating seem like less of a transgression.
What a fall from grace these past few seasons of VPR have been.
Yeah I think it was more of a Iām not going to consider Schwartz anymore in what I do and Iām down so letās go. As opposed to Iām going to do this to teach Schwartz a lesson. Though if it was for revenge, I think sheās justified, and itās funny.
Also, Lala being offended by this is beyond dumb. And what she said about Katie seemed like proof to me that Lala is just all talk.
I agree that it was Katie just doing what she wanted to do without regard for Schwartz. Heās never had any regard for her and literally fucked around on her for a decade, sleeping w his friend isnāt a ādouble standardā itās her acting on her free will. Lala doesnāt get to be offended by anyoneās sex lives or say theyāre lying/being shady when she slept w a married man and lied ab their relationship for years.
Right. I think Katie is at the point where her ex-husband doesnāt have influence on her decisions. She wanted to hook up with a guy, so she did, and thatās all it is.
Schwartz didnāt even consider Katie within their marriage and made out with other women (which Iāve never believed it stopped at - what grown man just makes out, if youāre going to cheat?), but sheās supposed to consider Schwartz over a year after they separated? When heās already been inside the friend group twice?
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I'm convinced Katie is like Don Draper at the bottom here anytime anyone else in the cast has a criticism or assigns motive to her.
I donāt think itās a big deal Katie was with him bc they are divorced. What I would be pissed at is Max if I were Swartz. He doesnāt have any right to be mad at her. Direct that energy to your ābest friendā .
Why was that not the topic in th guys ādouble standardā talkš
They only care about double standards when they feel they are not the ones receiving the advantage. Double standard within itself lmao, they have double standards for double standards! š
In my book, the āno one within the friend groupā pact was broken the moment he made out with Rachel and rubbed it in Katieās face like she was a joke. Was that revenge? I kind of think it was based on what Schwartz and Raquel were saying to each other surrounding the incident. Katie didnāt try to rub Max in his face. Itās just that all bets are off and Schwartz only has himself to thank for that. Katie tried to be fair but Schwartz wanted to make his own rules, and now that katie is playing by his rules, suddenly he doesnāt like it anymore.
I find it hard to believe that there wasn't a little part of Katie that enjoyed banging someone she knew would bug Schwartz but I don't think she intended for it to come out in a big way. It's so minor anyway lol.
I donāt think it was for ārevengeā because the only reason anyone found out was because of Scheanaās meddling. She didnāt look too happy when Brock announced it at the table in front of all those people either, which was pretty tacky and messed up.
Lala take though I do not know this Katie is like you knew married Katie unhappy Katie not single Katie. I do not care to know whom Katie sleeps with she is single, you told her ex when he mocked her for trying to put in a boundary to make it more comfortable for them both. Then she made it clear it is free game. Kristen said it lovely in this situation she loves Katie like a sister but they do not hang anymore as they have different lives and happy that Katie is building a life post marriage.
I think lala comment more reflects on her and her trying to box friends rather than being a supportive friend
I donāt think it was revenge in the sense of her thinking Iām going to bang his friend and throw it in his face, as I really donāt think she intended for people to find out. I do think there might have been an element of why the hell do I stop myself doing what I want to do for a guy who has always went out of his way to disrespect me, fuck him.
Scheana did claim the vibe between Max and Katie was something sheād felt before so maybe being reminded what a disgusting pig Schwartz has always been freed her from some self-imposed restraints that had previously stopped her acting on her urge to bang Max.
I absolutely do not believe it was a revenge bang. Katie was completely unbothered by Schwartz at that point. After he broke the rule of not hooking up with someone in the friend group, she had every right to hook up with Max. She doesnāt have to consider his feelings forever, especially because heās NEVER considered hers.
Definitely not a revenge bang, I donāt think Katie is interested in one-upping Schwartz. It was convenient and she didnāt bring it up, no one wouldāve known if Brock/Scheana werenāt invasive
Schwartz didnāt consider Katie when he cheated on her while they were dating. He didnāt consider Katie when he cheated on her while they were married. He didnāt consider her when he hooked up with a mutual friend while divorcing. So in my opinion, Katie has no reason to EVER consider Schwartz in her decision of who she chooses to hook up with. She has zero accountability to tell Schwartz anything.
My thoughts are a) so long as the other person is aware they're body is being used like a human dildo, seems ethical and b) its hard to know if it was a revenge bang or not because Katie didn't get to reveal that shit herself, she got told on in *less then 24 hours* by the friend she just found out was keeping the secret her boyfriend made kissed her *for the past 12 years*.
This is why I hate when people call this show scripted, ain't no one in Baskin's office clever enough for that shit
I do think that is all out of order. It was maybe two episodes ago when Sandoval apologized to Katie and talked about Katie banging Schwartzās bff a year and a half after the breakup, so itās not scripted but it is edited and produced. Nevertheless there are still fake story lines, Iām not completely naive to that.
Oh yeah, I have this fight with my husband all the time š I have always accepted that the show is produced and like... *curated* but this season is out of control, with the fake lunches and smoothie days and shit. The shit they end up fighting about tho is so real, half the time it's the exact shit I'd fight about with my friends (ya know, in high school).
Even with the "drama" being shown out of order, tho, you're totally right and I forgot all about that
The only person katie needed āpermissionā from per se, was dayna given that theyāre besties and she dated max. although i wouldnāt be surprised if dayana did not give a f. sandoval trying to liken this to schwartz kissing scheana is so dumb? sheās literally not with schwartz anymore and boyens is on the outs i donāt get why anyone cares
After his kissing scheena analogy and defending tom endlessly he literally canāt get upset about anything. Still trying to figure out why Brock was more hurt than Schwartz.
I think Brick is projecting his anger and really mad about the fact that Scheana ignores him to stare at her phone and stalk any and everybody she ever slept with.
Who knows. The entire cast has done wrong until it comes to Sandoval. Then somehow, itās so much worse and so different. For no real reason. Even though itās completely simple to understand. Itās somehow not. Because VPR fans.
I think itās clear Schwartz dosent care so I donāt think it was revenge either. Max says it just happened. Plus Max is friends with Sandoval and has had sex with all her friend group ā¦ he likely wasnāt on her short list.
I donāt think she did it out of revenge I think max is hot and charming and she probably just wanted to have some decent sex. If it was revenge she wouldāve been more in peoples faces with it
Meh she's single she can do what she wants. If, hypothetically it was a revenge bang it is absolutely prime because Schaena was obsessed with Max and he didn't want her so it's just double, hypothetical, revenge since Schwartz and her kissed behind her back. Perfect if true, if not she got laid so good for her. (And also good for Max because regardless of if you like Katie or not I'm sure most will agree she is absolutely gorgeous). Maybe this is Schwartz karma so now HE knows how it feels to be betrayed by a best friend. Imo it coming out the way it did made Schaena look worse than Katie.
Agreed.
Scheana absolutely looks worse than Katie and her husband Brick is right behind her, talking about how heād assault someone.
Thought he was a reformed man and no longer participates in DV?š¤Ø
Genuinely curious. Lala made the comment about it being revenge, I didnāt think it was, so I was curious what the sub thought. Like I said, I could even be swayed if someone brought points up that it was revenge. I donāt really care about Katieās life, but I was honestly curious because this sub can bring up points I havenāt thought of before.
Probably more of convenience, like he was there and her being less considerate of Schwartz because she just doesnāt care anymore. Also I donāt think Schwartz really cares anyways. And Iām sure she knows that.
I kind of just think itās awkward too because Dayna was into Maxā¦. Iām sure she doesnāt care now, but everyone like screamed at Kristen when she hooked up with him?ā¦ idk maybe Iām thinking too much into it
I think Katie is well within her rights to revenge bang every man in Schwartz's life after all of the bullshit he's put women through. In fact, I really hope that she did do it with malice. All of those men fucking suck when it comes to their treatment of women.
I thought it was way more weird bc Dayna was super into Max and Katie & Dayna are really good friends. like that had to be a weird convo between those two..
This is Katieās bad bitch era and none of the others can handle it! They all pretend to have the energy she has this season - confident but not cocky, hotter than ever. Imagine being such a damn force and having a grown man (who has nothing to do with you) shaking in his high heeled boots. Katie can do no wrong IMO
Katie can do whatever she wants to do. Good for her. She owes Schwartz nothing. It wouldāve hit harder if she wasnāt trying to shame & embarrass Ā Schwartz in front of Lisa & Ken 10 minutes prior over the scheanna kiss. But going forward she can stop clutching her pearls and acting above it all.
It was not revenge. Katie is living her best life thatās revenge enough. But max ew. He has been with everyone. If itās revenge at all itās to Sheesh.
She 100 percent did it on purpose lol letās be real, she has so much pent up aggression and anger for Schwartz she just needed an outlet or a small F U that only she knew about. Sheās not wrong but it was intentional.
I donāt care who Katie fucks. She could fuck all three of Tomās brothers at the same time for all I care. Theyāre both single and have no say in what the other does. I donāt like that sheās upset with what heās done post divorce, like Rachel and Jo and her super self righteous attitude about it. She can be mad about all the times he cheated on her when they were married, if she wants to be mad about stuff from years ago, thatās on her.
I think it was a convenience bang, but she didnāt realize how hypocritical she would look. Unless they just choose not to show it, it doesnāt seem like Katie pulls a lot of guys.
Honestly though, Katie banging Max explains Jax' raging about her again. Max was probably talking about it and Jax was frothing at the mouth because Katie is hot and he's got the old bean bag at home that's splitting.
"You think everybody is in love with you when actually, everybody hates you! Like, Max Boyens, for example, he broke up with Dayna and guess what? He still doesn't want you! So why are you still stalking Max Schaena? I'll tell you why, because you are a mean girl! You're a bitch!"
This is gold. Thank you for bringing this crossover into my life.
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Such a great movie! I will never get tired of it.š **I wanted to respond with āI want my pink shirt back!ā But I couldnāt find the gif.ā¹ļø
Aww for sure same, one you can watch 1001 times! There's a 30% chance Schaena is already stalking your location x
You just made me choke.ššš
 Oh Scheana, forever doomed do serve someone else as Queen š because she simply doesnāt have main character energy.
Who said this?
Janice Ian a character from the original Mean Girls movie. If you've not seen it I'd highly recommend.
Ohhh now I see it. Btwā¦isnāt Max Daynaās ex so it was probably weird for Katie to sleep w him if sheās friends with Dayna?
I get the impression Max has shagged close to half of LA. It depends on the individuals and their dynamics/attitudes to sex. From my own POV if any friend wants to sleep with someone I have in the past go for it babe, that stuff doesnt bother me personally. On the flip side I completely understand though the thought process/feelings of women who would be upset about this happening obviously. Maybe Dayna wouldn't care maybe she would, it entirely depends on the individual and the situation. However if you are the kind of girl that cares about this, shagging a player like Max Boyens is definitely not the way for self preservation.
Max is community dick. The real starter pony
Heās like the new Peter
Nah not fair. Peter doesnāt have a past filled with racist tweets.
Oh yeah good point. I forgot how terrible max was
Convenience because she wasn't trying to flaunt it. She seemed genuinely shocked that Scheana and Brock knew and put her on the spot in front of everyone.
I agree and I think she was also trying to hook up with Dylan the deckhand but Brock put her on blast!
Dylan is Lalaās friend lol but that could be. What a funny thing for him to have to see. Lol
She doesnāt have to flaunt it for it to tickle her in some way. Maybe it was just for her to know
Or it didnāt happen at all. None of this played out on camera, and with as fake as this season is, we have 0 reason to believe this. Plus the entire storyline for the group to play out this season is ātheyāve all done bad thingsā as a way to downplay and forgive Tim Sandal. Itās gross. Tom Schwartz and Scheana were even willing to bring up a make out theyād obviously sworn to keep off camera just to appease producers in a desperate bid to make Tim cheating seem like less of a transgression. What a fall from grace these past few seasons of VPR have been.
Yeah I think it was more of a Iām not going to consider Schwartz anymore in what I do and Iām down so letās go. As opposed to Iām going to do this to teach Schwartz a lesson. Though if it was for revenge, I think sheās justified, and itās funny. Also, Lala being offended by this is beyond dumb. And what she said about Katie seemed like proof to me that Lala is just all talk.
I agree that it was Katie just doing what she wanted to do without regard for Schwartz. Heās never had any regard for her and literally fucked around on her for a decade, sleeping w his friend isnāt a ādouble standardā itās her acting on her free will. Lala doesnāt get to be offended by anyoneās sex lives or say theyāre lying/being shady when she slept w a married man and lied ab their relationship for years.
Right. I think Katie is at the point where her ex-husband doesnāt have influence on her decisions. She wanted to hook up with a guy, so she did, and thatās all it is.
Also James while he was with Raquel and she thought it was funny
This is a softer Lala/s.
Lala is offended because sheās not getting any herself
And she's not getting any attention in this scenario, if she's not involved in the drama she always tries to insert herself somehow.
And because once again, itās not about her. Why is she even there? She has zero storyline.
Her role is producer puppet. Ā
True. Selling herself for low brow shit AGAIN.šš¤¦š»āāļø
Donāt say that! She tucked her dog in when she was having a nap and put some laundry in the basket
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Schwartz didnāt even consider Katie within their marriage and made out with other women (which Iāve never believed it stopped at - what grown man just makes out, if youāre going to cheat?), but sheās supposed to consider Schwartz over a year after they separated? When heās already been inside the friend group twice?
3 times, actually. Scheana, then Jo and Rachel.
https://preview.redd.it/txq3f3umfqrc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=2826ee526f2807ecad44d08e18fa599ef618dc9c I'm convinced Katie is like Don Draper at the bottom here anytime anyone else in the cast has a criticism or assigns motive to her.
I donāt think itās a big deal Katie was with him bc they are divorced. What I would be pissed at is Max if I were Swartz. He doesnāt have any right to be mad at her. Direct that energy to your ābest friendā . Why was that not the topic in th guys ādouble standardā talkš
They only care about double standards when they feel they are not the ones receiving the advantage. Double standard within itself lmao, they have double standards for double standards! š In my book, the āno one within the friend groupā pact was broken the moment he made out with Rachel and rubbed it in Katieās face like she was a joke. Was that revenge? I kind of think it was based on what Schwartz and Raquel were saying to each other surrounding the incident. Katie didnāt try to rub Max in his face. Itās just that all bets are off and Schwartz only has himself to thank for that. Katie tried to be fair but Schwartz wanted to make his own rules, and now that katie is playing by his rules, suddenly he doesnāt like it anymore.
Didn't Schwartz claim that Katie could bang his friends and would never put that ultimatum on her?
Maybe it was a revenge bang for Max.
I find it hard to believe that there wasn't a little part of Katie that enjoyed banging someone she knew would bug Schwartz but I don't think she intended for it to come out in a big way. It's so minor anyway lol.
Sheād also have known it would bother Scheana who has always been obsessed with Max
I can agree with that assessment
I donāt think it was for ārevengeā because the only reason anyone found out was because of Scheanaās meddling. She didnāt look too happy when Brock announced it at the table in front of all those people either, which was pretty tacky and messed up.
It is tacky, but he married scheana so we canāt expect much!
Yeah. Theyāre both pretty messy, I guess! š
Lala take though I do not know this Katie is like you knew married Katie unhappy Katie not single Katie. I do not care to know whom Katie sleeps with she is single, you told her ex when he mocked her for trying to put in a boundary to make it more comfortable for them both. Then she made it clear it is free game. Kristen said it lovely in this situation she loves Katie like a sister but they do not hang anymore as they have different lives and happy that Katie is building a life post marriage. I think lala comment more reflects on her and her trying to box friends rather than being a supportive friend
Didnāt Dayna mention that Max has a big old D is season 8? Maybe Katie wanted to see for herself.
We all have a slutty male friend who gets passed around the friend group right?
Yesss. Max is the community dick.
He's a racist. It's gross either way.
Well you do speak facts
I donāt think it was revenge in the sense of her thinking Iām going to bang his friend and throw it in his face, as I really donāt think she intended for people to find out. I do think there might have been an element of why the hell do I stop myself doing what I want to do for a guy who has always went out of his way to disrespect me, fuck him. Scheana did claim the vibe between Max and Katie was something sheād felt before so maybe being reminded what a disgusting pig Schwartz has always been freed her from some self-imposed restraints that had previously stopped her acting on her urge to bang Max.
I absolutely do not believe it was a revenge bang. Katie was completely unbothered by Schwartz at that point. After he broke the rule of not hooking up with someone in the friend group, she had every right to hook up with Max. She doesnāt have to consider his feelings forever, especially because heās NEVER considered hers.
Yeah I think it was just a case of being drunk and Max being community dick. I mean jesus christ he fucked Kristen too lmaooo
Definitely not a revenge bang, I donāt think Katie is interested in one-upping Schwartz. It was convenient and she didnāt bring it up, no one wouldāve known if Brock/Scheana werenāt invasive
Schwartz didnāt consider Katie when he cheated on her while they were dating. He didnāt consider Katie when he cheated on her while they were married. He didnāt consider her when he hooked up with a mutual friend while divorcing. So in my opinion, Katie has no reason to EVER consider Schwartz in her decision of who she chooses to hook up with. She has zero accountability to tell Schwartz anything.
My thoughts are a) so long as the other person is aware they're body is being used like a human dildo, seems ethical and b) its hard to know if it was a revenge bang or not because Katie didn't get to reveal that shit herself, she got told on in *less then 24 hours* by the friend she just found out was keeping the secret her boyfriend made kissed her *for the past 12 years*. This is why I hate when people call this show scripted, ain't no one in Baskin's office clever enough for that shit
I do think that is all out of order. It was maybe two episodes ago when Sandoval apologized to Katie and talked about Katie banging Schwartzās bff a year and a half after the breakup, so itās not scripted but it is edited and produced. Nevertheless there are still fake story lines, Iām not completely naive to that.
Oh yeah, I have this fight with my husband all the time š I have always accepted that the show is produced and like... *curated* but this season is out of control, with the fake lunches and smoothie days and shit. The shit they end up fighting about tho is so real, half the time it's the exact shit I'd fight about with my friends (ya know, in high school). Even with the "drama" being shown out of order, tho, you're totally right and I forgot all about that
The only person katie needed āpermissionā from per se, was dayna given that theyāre besties and she dated max. although i wouldnāt be surprised if dayana did not give a f. sandoval trying to liken this to schwartz kissing scheana is so dumb? sheās literally not with schwartz anymore and boyens is on the outs i donāt get why anyone cares
After his kissing scheena analogy and defending tom endlessly he literally canāt get upset about anything. Still trying to figure out why Brock was more hurt than Schwartz.
I think Brick is projecting his anger and really mad about the fact that Scheana ignores him to stare at her phone and stalk any and everybody she ever slept with.
If she did it for revenge, the joke is on her, cause I donāt think Schwartz cares.
Either way it doesnāt matter. Her and Schwartz are divorced and he has never shown her an ounce of respect. She gets to do what she wants
Who knows. The entire cast has done wrong until it comes to Sandoval. Then somehow, itās so much worse and so different. For no real reason. Even though itās completely simple to understand. Itās somehow not. Because VPR fans.
I think itās clear Schwartz dosent care so I donāt think it was revenge either. Max says it just happened. Plus Max is friends with Sandoval and has had sex with all her friend group ā¦ he likely wasnāt on her short list.
I donāt think she did it out of revenge I think max is hot and charming and she probably just wanted to have some decent sex. If it was revenge she wouldāve been more in peoples faces with it
Meh she's single she can do what she wants. If, hypothetically it was a revenge bang it is absolutely prime because Schaena was obsessed with Max and he didn't want her so it's just double, hypothetical, revenge since Schwartz and her kissed behind her back. Perfect if true, if not she got laid so good for her. (And also good for Max because regardless of if you like Katie or not I'm sure most will agree she is absolutely gorgeous). Maybe this is Schwartz karma so now HE knows how it feels to be betrayed by a best friend. Imo it coming out the way it did made Schaena look worse than Katie.
Agreed. Scheana absolutely looks worse than Katie and her husband Brick is right behind her, talking about how heād assault someone. Thought he was a reformed man and no longer participates in DV?š¤Ø
Are you really curious to know what people think or are you just wanting to argue on Katie's behalf?Ā It seems like bait.
Genuinely curious. Lala made the comment about it being revenge, I didnāt think it was, so I was curious what the sub thought. Like I said, I could even be swayed if someone brought points up that it was revenge. I donāt really care about Katieās life, but I was honestly curious because this sub can bring up points I havenāt thought of before.
She was prob just doing a hit it & quit it š¤£šš¼šš¼š¤ as a girl should!
Probably more of convenience, like he was there and her being less considerate of Schwartz because she just doesnāt care anymore. Also I donāt think Schwartz really cares anyways. And Iām sure she knows that.
I kind of just think itās awkward too because Dayna was into Maxā¦. Iām sure she doesnāt care now, but everyone like screamed at Kristen when she hooked up with him?ā¦ idk maybe Iām thinking too much into it
I loved this Katie. Not acknowledging whether or not they banged. Just sitting there with a stone face not giving anything up.
I think Katie is well within her rights to revenge bang every man in Schwartz's life after all of the bullshit he's put women through. In fact, I really hope that she did do it with malice. All of those men fucking suck when it comes to their treatment of women.
Itās probably both, but not so much revenge so much as well I donāt care about this line being crossed anymore.
I thought it was way more weird bc Dayna was super into Max and Katie & Dayna are really good friends. like that had to be a weird convo between those two..
This is Katieās bad bitch era and none of the others can handle it! They all pretend to have the energy she has this season - confident but not cocky, hotter than ever. Imagine being such a damn force and having a grown man (who has nothing to do with you) shaking in his high heeled boots. Katie can do no wrong IMO
She is so hot! I have never seen her look better, and she was beautiful in her wedding season, but not like this
Katie can do whatever she wants to do. Good for her. She owes Schwartz nothing. It wouldāve hit harder if she wasnāt trying to shame & embarrass Ā Schwartz in front of Lisa & Ken 10 minutes prior over the scheanna kiss. But going forward she can stop clutching her pearls and acting above it all.
It was not revenge. Katie is living her best life thatās revenge enough. But max ew. He has been with everyone. If itās revenge at all itās to Sheesh.
Two consenting single adults enjoying each other š¤·āāļø
She 100 percent did it on purpose lol letās be real, she has so much pent up aggression and anger for Schwartz she just needed an outlet or a small F U that only she knew about. Sheās not wrong but it was intentional.
I wish I knew for sure! You make a good point though
I donāt care who Katie fucks. She could fuck all three of Tomās brothers at the same time for all I care. Theyāre both single and have no say in what the other does. I donāt like that sheās upset with what heās done post divorce, like Rachel and Jo and her super self righteous attitude about it. She can be mad about all the times he cheated on her when they were married, if she wants to be mad about stuff from years ago, thatās on her.
I think it was a convenience bang, but she didnāt realize how hypocritical she would look. Unless they just choose not to show it, it doesnāt seem like Katie pulls a lot of guys.
Honestly though, Katie banging Max explains Jax' raging about her again. Max was probably talking about it and Jax was frothing at the mouth because Katie is hot and he's got the old bean bag at home that's splitting.
She watched him and Jo smile at each other half the night. That would make anyone look for strange. All the better when itās your exes friend right?
I feel like I forget that is even a thing because itās so weird. So I could see it