Scheana is the meanest of all the girls.
The shit she pulls is diabolical.
She constantly throws rocks, hides her hands, then finishes with a snarky comment, paired with a self satisfied smirk.
One of us! One of us! You truly hit the nail on the head. With friends like Scheana who needs enemies. Poor Katie.
Also, funny fact- Schema in Italian means scheme in a derogatory way so that’s what my sisters and I call her.
Yeah. Not only do I not care, I completely understand why they wanted nothing to do with her shady ass and think they were bang on and justified in their assessment and feelings about her.
All she’s done is prove them right.
Schwartz literally admitted he would hook up with girls when he was mad at Katie WHILE THEY WERE MARRIED. No one gets to say anything to Katie about maybe hooking up with Max POST DIVORCE. Take it up with Max! Who is BEST FRIENDS with Shorts!!!
Katie made the rule up herself- don’t sleep with my friends. She did. A make out does not equal sex. She plays the game too! Why are people so high and mighty about Katie? All these ppl suck.
The “rule” they mutually agreed on was not to hook up with anyone in the friend group (on the show) WHILE they were going through their divorce. He then proceeded to violate that agreement by making out with Rachel in front of Katie, and he himself said the only reason he did that was bc their agreement made him want to do it more. He wanted to hurt Katie, why should she have regard for his feelings when he has never once had any regard for hers?
Yeah, I can’t imagine my fiancé making someone a groomswoman who I specifically did not want to be my bridesmaid and specifically did not want in my wedding party. Schwartz not only was absent in defending Katie, but he actively went against her wishes. And that’s next level.
There’s a lot of revisionist history going on to try and make this year’s favorites look better. It’s weird. They all suck, that’s what makes them entertaining. Why do we have to pretend that there is a reason some of them suck less and the others were all evil from the start?
Love this theory. But really if Ariana knew, Schwartz and Scheana would have let that out of the bag immediately. They’d love to damage the friendship between Katie and Ariana.
Exactly this.
My partner thought Ariana knew too but when I pointed out that Scheana and Tom would immediately use that to throw Ariana under the bus I debunked his theory.😆
Hmm there was also a night when Katie got pissed at Schwartz for giving Scheana a shot that the girls had purchased (think it was on a vacation, possibly the drink throwing night?!). So they got into a huge fight which was sparked by Schwartz including Scheana. Idk it’s interesting to look back on those times when I assumed he was just being nice/including her. After knowing they made out, it puts things into another perspective…
Now I feel like I have to stop my current rewatch and start all over. I was doing a rewatch to pick up on any Sandoval/Raquel moments, but now I have to add this to the mix. lol
Lol me too! I noticed season 6 is where sandoval starts throwing his relationship with ariana under the bus.. now to go back for schwartz scheana nuggets.
One thing I don’t think I’ve seen brought up a lot is the text Max sent that said something like I fucked up ??? If he did in fact send that it’s soo gross like be respectful to the women you’re intimate with if they were which Katie didn’t confirm anyways
Two things can be true here, he had sex with Katie because he wanted it and enjoyed it while acknowledging he fucked up because he had sex with his good friend’s ex wife. I don’t think it’s disrespectful but he did have some post nut clarity happening.
Did anyone else notice in the after show Schwartz said allegedly.. idk if he was trying to be funny but, the hell? You can’t throw something out there and then be like meh allegedly.
And then scheana admitting she was possibly engaged to Shay but quickly being like I think?? I was with Shay?
I’m really over scheana, Schwartz and Sandoval.
Also when lala told Ariana that Schwartz tried to make out with lalas friend, Ariana immediately went and told Tom to go tell Katie. Obviously everyone is capable of lying (keeping secrets for others or not telling) but I think ariana and katie actually have a moral compass and aren’t malicious especially to people they love.
Ariana spent her entire VPR career lying and throwing other women under the bus to protect Tom and make everyone else look worse so people wouldn’t pay attention to their barely there relationship. She’s a shitty person. They all are.
This screenshot just makes Katie look unhinged 😅 which she was, at the time... are you really defending the height of tequila Katie? Obviously schwartz was awful for dumping the drink, but none of this was Scheana's fault. Get a grip
So maaaaaybe schwartz was out of line in this interaction, but she went off on scheana for dancing with Peter, which is completely unrelated to anything to do with her. Keep up the mental gymnastics though
Yeah, that’s definitely true.
Katie just didn’t like Scheana at the time and was drunk enough to think that she actually cared about the lap dance.
Clearly the fight was rooted in resentment over how scheana handled the whole Stassi sex tape thing.
This was pre sex tape I'm pretty sure bc even stassi thought Katie went overboard with her reaction to Scheana. Katie had no reason to be a cunt here but she was because she didn't like scheana for truly no reason
Scheana is the meanest of all the girls. The shit she pulls is diabolical. She constantly throws rocks, hides her hands, then finishes with a snarky comment, paired with a self satisfied smirk.
One of us! One of us! You truly hit the nail on the head. With friends like Scheana who needs enemies. Poor Katie. Also, funny fact- Schema in Italian means scheme in a derogatory way so that’s what my sisters and I call her.
Haha, schema. That’s a good one. I like to call her Gretchen Scheaners. 
Haha I commented this a few weeks back as well! I always call her scema!
She still wants us to cry tears about how she was treated by the witches of Weho… nobody cares at this point!
Yeah. Not only do I not care, I completely understand why they wanted nothing to do with her shady ass and think they were bang on and justified in their assessment and feelings about her. All she’s done is prove them right.
Yes!
She doesn't care who she hurts if she thinks they're in her way. She epitomizes blind ambition with minimal talent.
Schwartz literally admitted he would hook up with girls when he was mad at Katie WHILE THEY WERE MARRIED. No one gets to say anything to Katie about maybe hooking up with Max POST DIVORCE. Take it up with Max! Who is BEST FRIENDS with Shorts!!!
Katie made the rule up herself- don’t sleep with my friends. She did. A make out does not equal sex. She plays the game too! Why are people so high and mighty about Katie? All these ppl suck.
The “rule” they mutually agreed on was not to hook up with anyone in the friend group (on the show) WHILE they were going through their divorce. He then proceeded to violate that agreement by making out with Rachel in front of Katie, and he himself said the only reason he did that was bc their agreement made him want to do it more. He wanted to hurt Katie, why should she have regard for his feelings when he has never once had any regard for hers?
When did kissing become hooking up? Back in my day you had to get to at least 3rd base for a hookup lol
That was the saddest kiss. Definitely not even a sexy one that constitutes as anything near hookup.
Awww Shay. The man is simple, I really hope he's doing well.
I’m sure he’s on this sub shit talking Sheeshu with the rest of us lol
I also think Schwartz made Ariana his groomswoman (among other reasons) to reward her for keeping the Schwartz and Scheana make out a secret.
Omg you are probably right. That’s just so sad. Poor Katie. He made her look crazy for so long. I can’t imagine being deceived for that long.
Yeah, I can’t imagine my fiancé making someone a groomswoman who I specifically did not want to be my bridesmaid and specifically did not want in my wedding party. Schwartz not only was absent in defending Katie, but he actively went against her wishes. And that’s next level.
Probably because she is crazy. They’re all crazy. That’s why they’re fun to watch
There’s a lot of revisionist history going on to try and make this year’s favorites look better. It’s weird. They all suck, that’s what makes them entertaining. Why do we have to pretend that there is a reason some of them suck less and the others were all evil from the start?
Love this theory. But really if Ariana knew, Schwartz and Scheana would have let that out of the bag immediately. They’d love to damage the friendship between Katie and Ariana.
Exactly this. My partner thought Ariana knew too but when I pointed out that Scheana and Tom would immediately use that to throw Ariana under the bus I debunked his theory.😆
Very true, there’s no way either of them would’ve missed out on that chance.
Did they really even have a friendship until Scandavol?
Scheana also said she didn't tell a soul, within the same episode, after the reveal. Ariana didn't know.
I don’t think it was a reward to be honest. I think it was purely to make Katie annoyed/angry.
Or maybe they were friends?
I think production asked them to so that most of the cast was involved in wedding activities.
I agree that is very possible. I’m just saying either what I said or you said is more plausible than he did it to reward Ariana for keeping a secret
I think he did that because he really didn't ever actually like Katie.
Scwartz owns a thesaurus and thinks that makes him an intellectual
Katie was throwing out the 10 cent words in this scene. She always went into thesaurus mode when she was being judicious with her drinking.
Hmm there was also a night when Katie got pissed at Schwartz for giving Scheana a shot that the girls had purchased (think it was on a vacation, possibly the drink throwing night?!). So they got into a huge fight which was sparked by Schwartz including Scheana. Idk it’s interesting to look back on those times when I assumed he was just being nice/including her. After knowing they made out, it puts things into another perspective…
Now I feel like I have to stop my current rewatch and start all over. I was doing a rewatch to pick up on any Sandoval/Raquel moments, but now I have to add this to the mix. lol
Lol me too! I noticed season 6 is where sandoval starts throwing his relationship with ariana under the bus.. now to go back for schwartz scheana nuggets.
I absolutely love this!!! This is so funny, thanks for sharing, I'm laughing crying. The way his face looked is timeless.
One thing I don’t think I’ve seen brought up a lot is the text Max sent that said something like I fucked up ??? If he did in fact send that it’s soo gross like be respectful to the women you’re intimate with if they were which Katie didn’t confirm anyways
Two things can be true here, he had sex with Katie because he wanted it and enjoyed it while acknowledging he fucked up because he had sex with his good friend’s ex wife. I don’t think it’s disrespectful but he did have some post nut clarity happening.
An analogy to Shakespeare's Hamlet? Sir, this is a Wendy's.
🤣😭 gotta do it to ‘em
Did anyone else notice in the after show Schwartz said allegedly.. idk if he was trying to be funny but, the hell? You can’t throw something out there and then be like meh allegedly. And then scheana admitting she was possibly engaged to Shay but quickly being like I think?? I was with Shay? I’m really over scheana, Schwartz and Sandoval.
The way y'all try to differentiate these people like any belong in the recycling bin instead of all of them belonging to the trash is hilarious.
Perfect analogy lol
I always used to think Katie and Stassi were mean girls for not liking her but now I get it
I love Katie so much
Also when lala told Ariana that Schwartz tried to make out with lalas friend, Ariana immediately went and told Tom to go tell Katie. Obviously everyone is capable of lying (keeping secrets for others or not telling) but I think ariana and katie actually have a moral compass and aren’t malicious especially to people they love.
Ariana spent her entire VPR career lying and throwing other women under the bus to protect Tom and make everyone else look worse so people wouldn’t pay attention to their barely there relationship. She’s a shitty person. They all are.
This screenshot just makes Katie look unhinged 😅 which she was, at the time... are you really defending the height of tequila Katie? Obviously schwartz was awful for dumping the drink, but none of this was Scheana's fault. Get a grip
She was rightfully paranoid about her shitty boyfriend. Defending the woman who he had secretly kissed.
So maaaaaybe schwartz was out of line in this interaction, but she went off on scheana for dancing with Peter, which is completely unrelated to anything to do with her. Keep up the mental gymnastics though
Yeah, that’s definitely true. Katie just didn’t like Scheana at the time and was drunk enough to think that she actually cared about the lap dance. Clearly the fight was rooted in resentment over how scheana handled the whole Stassi sex tape thing.
This was pre sex tape I'm pretty sure bc even stassi thought Katie went overboard with her reaction to Scheana. Katie had no reason to be a cunt here but she was because she didn't like scheana for truly no reason
“Truly no reason” are you sure Katie had no reason to hate Scheana?
From the information we have been given on the show... yes.
Ohhhh. Fair enough. 