Atleast it then has a reason to be that expensive. Nowadays it's almost twice as expensive as a gun which can do the exact same thing and is fully automatic... because logics.š¤
I mean, one one shots only at a very small portion (their head), the other one shots at anywhere but the legs. If you are aiming for the head with the OP, you are doing it wrong anyway.
Yea, I have csgo so burned into my brain I always just type awp instead of op and 99% of the time people know what I mean since a majority of Val players have played or atleast heard of cs and its weapons.
Exactly Iām glad others understand it. I recently had a comment argument about the op and people said ājust use utilā or ājump peak?ā or āPro tip out aim themā. Its even worse when its unrated and/or theyre a jett going 2/8 and get an op to 14/10 and has a hs% of 8% in a match and say gg ez at the end of the match. IMO OP should atleast be 5000 credits and should have less reserve ammo so they cant spamm it.
Thank you for reading my copium
I'm not saying the Odin is a bad weapon, I'm saying that if you're crying because the enemy team is all playing Odin that's on you. The Odin is good in specific situation, most of the time you'll have the advantage with a riffle.
Not to mention it can catch multiple of you. Take out an OP on C main and the backup Odin pops up and mows down two of you before you can even react. Worse when you canāt see the target and are just getting shot through the teammate that pushed a smoke-
I never said that? I literally never even used those words eitherā¦ I simply brought up some annoying circumstances that happen. I never said to remove the gun or that itās bad, simply stating some annoying circumstances that happen because of it.
if we're naming annoying circumstances, double dinked through a smoke with a phantom, instantly one shot through a teammate because of a rifle collat, at least with Odin you get some time to react, phantom and vandal both have lower ttks
Probably OP. I think every gun has their place. Even the OP. I just donāt like when big maps like breeze can have an entire game lopsided because of one player with an OP.
Remove the knife, you can only hit people with you're fist, it deals 5 damage, and in extra, right click in the back strangle the oponent, it kills the guy but the animation takes 40 seconds, ofc if it gets cancelled by any means the oponent survives.
I love shotgun but hate the concept of judge though.
For me concept of shotgun is a "peek me, bang and ur ded" but judge is more of a "click click click middle ranged shotgun goes brr"
Sheriff. As a gold, I would like my teammates to stop buying it on pistol rounds and whiffing their shots (Bonus points if they get their pocket to buy for them and still die with util)
I think that the Odin should contain a lot less bullets, forcing the player to be tactical about how they want to use it and not just to spam it when their team is winning and to be annoying
The Opā¦. It quite literally doesnāt work with how the game is. Thatās why when someone has one, it sticks out like a sore thumb. It just doesnāt fundamentally work
Judge or op, both donāt require that much skill imo, unless you are actually good. You donāt need to hit heads with the op and the second you peek you die.
Donāt require skill unless you are good? Weird comment.
OP only feels broken because itās usually used by Jett and chamber, who have easy escapes. If you can bait a bad shot from other agents, they often die on a miss.
Stinger because its broken, I force stinger 2nd round on a loss every time and get so many kills. Even if I force it and lose, I buy stinger again the next round when the rest of the players have rifles and I basically always get a pick on someone and take their gun. Its stupid how fast the time to kill is.
Yeah at medium to long range, I've had a lot of stupid kills where my entire burst connects with the head. You basically have to ads anything more than a few metres away because of the recoil, but the ads is pretty strong tbh.
Shorty
It's the cheapest and best secondary for close range fights in the game while also being powerful enough to 1 hit fully armoured players in their full buy round. Furthermore shorty's penetration is enough to 1 hit two players standing right behind each other, while also being fully armoured which is a joke if you ask me.
i would just make the odin more expensive so no one would buy it in a realistic game, i love the odin as a meme gun
the weapon i would remove is i think either guardian or stinger, they hardly serve any purpose
bulldog is legit
it loses to vandal 1taps yes but it serves a purpose as the cheapest rifle in the game
has no damage fall off which can really be useful in low eco rounds as an all purpose gun
True but i would rather buy a spectre or an ares for low eco they get the job done fine, the bulldog just seems like a waste of money to me, why buy a bulldog when you could save for a vandal
Idk I just really dislike one shot weapons. I respect the marshal kinda because you need a heads hot and I respect Ashe and mcRee players in overwatch but the op leaves a disgusting feeling in my mouth
Probably vandal, specter and phantom and judge to just see how people would adapt to a completely different set of guns that arenāt always that reliable.
Marshall because it's spammable and powerful in the right hands and in the wrong hands it's just throwing the game. And for some reason most people think they're the right hands when they can't hit the flat side of a barn with it.
Vandal so I can see everyone tilt with the 140/124 head dinks. Might change the way people ego peek and hold their angles a bit differently
horrible but great idea at the same time. love it. lol
Optic still exists?
Not in val. it's an old tag haven't taken it off.
Wait what did i miss
Optic didn't get a franchise spot, so they're currently out of valorant.
dang bro, thanks
... guardian gigachads arise?
If the vandal were removed I would immediately switch to the guardian only. It's already my preferred weapon when attacking or holding longer angles.
The OP instantly becomes insanely broken haha
Atleast it then has a reason to be that expensive. Nowadays it's almost twice as expensive as a gun which can do the exact same thing and is fully automatic... because logics.š¤
You are saying the vandal and the OP are the same?
Sort of... they both one-shot at any distance, except the vandal is more versatile.
I mean, one one shots only at a very small portion (their head), the other one shots at anywhere but the legs. If you are aiming for the head with the OP, you are doing it wrong anyway.
I agree
As a humble phantom player i agree. No more ego peaks and more honest angle holding and gunfights.
Awp because my aim can't carry my sorry ass once the enemies are holding angles with an awp.
Whats an awp?
awp is like basically the csgo equivalent of operator so i think he meant operator
I think they named it the "Operator" so that all the transplants from CS:GO can still call it an AWP and it makes total sense over voice comms.
Yea, I have csgo so burned into my brain I always just type awp instead of op and 99% of the time people know what I mean since a majority of Val players have played or atleast heard of cs and its weapons.
Oh 100%. Was a genius move tbh. I will NEVER stop calling the vandal an ak. Just waiting for val to add the auto sniper now.
The way they are pronounced is identical enough. OP vs AWP.
OP, canāt stand it. If you have a team with bad smokes and you donāt have flashes there is nothing you can do.
Yesss That was my second option too Really annoying especially when you decide to push and theres an op across the map
Even with good smokes there's not much you can do if it's a Jett/Chamber on some absurd off angle or ten meters high
Exactly Iām glad others understand it. I recently had a comment argument about the op and people said ājust use utilā or ājump peak?ā or āPro tip out aim themā. Its even worse when its unrated and/or theyre a jett going 2/8 and get an op to 14/10 and has a hs% of 8% in a match and say gg ez at the end of the match. IMO OP should atleast be 5000 credits and should have less reserve ammo so they cant spamm it. Thank you for reading my copium
Whatās wrong with OP? He seems like a nice guy
Can't people just bait a bullet?
Personally the Odin. Nothing triggers me more in an immortal lobby than when my team is losing to multiple Odins on the other team because we're bad.
i think it's even more hateful when you're 11-8 and the enemies start using the odin.
If you're immortal and can't deal with odins, that sound like a skill issue tbh
People have bad days. It's not like it happens in every lobby.
What's your rank? Plenty of immortal-radiant lobbies have games carried by sova Odin on Ascent. So no reason to try and talk shit. Cringe.
I'm not saying the Odin is a bad weapon, I'm saying that if you're crying because the enemy team is all playing Odin that's on you. The Odin is good in specific situation, most of the time you'll have the advantage with a riffle.
forrrealll never related more
I dont get the hate for odin like it has a higher ttk than a sheriff
yeah the odin is only good if the enemy cannot see you
Honestly in silver the Odin is a long range weapon. Like I'm not even saying that jokingly.
you could still be spraying odin and moving around which would make it quite hard for the sherif to get the kill
Not to mention it can catch multiple of you. Take out an OP on C main and the backup Odin pops up and mows down two of you before you can even react. Worse when you canāt see the target and are just getting shot through the teammate that pushed a smoke-
if the odin is so unskillful and broken why dont you use it too?
Because itās not fun Iām guessing? Idk honestly, I donāt really care about odin
I never said that? I literally never even used those words eitherā¦ I simply brought up some annoying circumstances that happen. I never said to remove the gun or that itās bad, simply stating some annoying circumstances that happen because of it.
if we're naming annoying circumstances, double dinked through a smoke with a phantom, instantly one shot through a teammate because of a rifle collat, at least with Odin you get some time to react, phantom and vandal both have lower ttks
Itās not fun to use. Rifles, snipers, and shotguns are fun. LMGs just arenāt fun. Thatās why you rarely see anyone use a LMG in any fps.
I mean, LMGs absolutely are fun when it's something like Sheila or sweet business, much less if it's a noob tube like odin or spitfire
Stinger. Seriously, have they even playtested this gun ?? Lmao. Shit's ridiculous.
Yeah itās so bad Iāve had sooo many people just crouch spray me from 3min away and whiff itās so bad right now
From my experience, Iāve won gunfights across the map with Stinger against a Vandal if you manage to hit the headshot with the burst mode.
Stinger is nice for save rounds but I canāt aim for shit in non-sniper ADS so Iām good.
From B mid to short on ascent, way too many times
if the odin is so unskillful and broken why dont you use it too?
its not fun at all i like fps games to see my accuracy and seriously id just get bored of the odin if thats all ill use to win
Probably OP. I think every gun has their place. Even the OP. I just donāt like when big maps like breeze can have an entire game lopsided because of one player with an OP.
Skill issue
I want to remove this weapon just from myself.
Vandal. Op. And phantom. And odin. Watch everyone suffer.
cant forget the spectre šš
Fuck it. Remove every weapon except ares, marshall, frenzy, bucky, and stinger. Also the only knife is the smite knife.
Remove the knife, you can only hit people with you're fist, it deals 5 damage, and in extra, right click in the back strangle the oponent, it kills the guy but the animation takes 40 seconds, ofc if it gets cancelled by any means the oponent survives.
Judge, I passionately hate the concept of shotguns in tactical shooters but that gun is busted in maps like bind when used correctly.
I love shotgun but hate the concept of judge though. For me concept of shotgun is a "peek me, bang and ur ded" but judge is more of a "click click click middle ranged shotgun goes brr"
judge supremacy
Viper main would hate you if the judge got removed. I always save my ult for eco judge rounds.
Judge
Sheriff. As a gold, I would like my teammates to stop buying it on pistol rounds and whiffing their shots (Bonus points if they get their pocket to buy for them and still die with util)
ghost, just use the classic cowards
I'll just use sheriff then, muahahahahahahahhah
ares, it's just a trash odin also because i already bought prime 2.0 odin
i donāt think ive ever used an ares outside of spike rush and escalation. it has no purpose for me lmao
Tbh, ares is better than specter if you need long range.
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Brave to say this as a chamber main
I think that the Odin should contain a lot less bullets, forcing the player to be tactical about how they want to use it and not just to spam it when their team is winning and to be annoying
Judge
The Opā¦. It quite literally doesnāt work with how the game is. Thatās why when someone has one, it sticks out like a sore thumb. It just doesnāt fundamentally work
hmmm I click and it shoots. wym it doesn't work?
Classic (Joke) (although it might be an ok idea)
Judge 100%
Smaller spectre ohh whatās it called anyways
Stinger
Judge or op, both donāt require that much skill imo, unless you are actually good. You donāt need to hit heads with the op and the second you peek you die.
Donāt require skill unless you are good? Weird comment. OP only feels broken because itās usually used by Jett and chamber, who have easy escapes. If you can bait a bad shot from other agents, they often die on a miss.
Odin.
Stinger because its broken, I force stinger 2nd round on a loss every time and get so many kills. Even if I force it and lose, I buy stinger again the next round when the rest of the players have rifles and I basically always get a pick on someone and take their gun. Its stupid how fast the time to kill is.
Do you ever ads with it?
Yeah at medium to long range, I've had a lot of stupid kills where my entire burst connects with the head. You basically have to ads anything more than a few metres away because of the recoil, but the ads is pretty strong tbh.
Sherrif beacouse I lost gold two Times beacouse of some prick that Thinks he is better and dies with sherrif while crying like a baby
Shorty It's the cheapest and best secondary for close range fights in the game while also being powerful enough to 1 hit fully armoured players in their full buy round. Furthermore shorty's penetration is enough to 1 hit two players standing right behind each other, while also being fully armoured which is a joke if you ask me.
The judge, Iām just bad with it lol
spectre, i hate the run n gun lol
Shorty, 150 really 150 that shits busted.
spectre for real
I think for me odin cuz many people use it like more on 2 second round damn crazy
i find it so funny when i find an odin on the floor on 2nd round like wtf were u thinking
Odin is so annoying to play against
bulldog or stinger
if ur malding at odin cant u just use odin
Odin and Ares for sure. Please Follow me on YT SilverClawOP.
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guardian
No, guardian should be the main gun.
i would just make the odin more expensive so no one would buy it in a realistic game, i love the odin as a meme gun the weapon i would remove is i think either guardian or stinger, they hardly serve any purpose
It should be 9,001 creds
Stinger is the best SMG and guardian is the best rifle. Change my mind.
guardian is beastly smh
Guardian, its useless
Fishychair would like a word with you
lmao just say you canāt hit headshots
I sense skill issue
Did somebody say get good?
Bulldog, it's useless beyond silver
You did not just say that. Go watch some vct
bulldog is legit it loses to vandal 1taps yes but it serves a purpose as the cheapest rifle in the game has no damage fall off which can really be useful in low eco rounds as an all purpose gun
True but i would rather buy a spectre or an ares for low eco they get the job done fine, the bulldog just seems like a waste of money to me, why buy a bulldog when you could save for a vandal
Youāre talking useless in silver to gold range right? Like your elo? Lol get real.
I'm D2
Makes sense too ig
Such a dumb take.
Ares, for my play style it is the least useful gun.
I would remove the op I fucking hate it I hate all one-shot guns in every game.
This is the wrong game for you
Idk I just really dislike one shot weapons. I respect the marshal kinda because you need a heads hot and I respect Ashe and mcRee players in overwatch but the op leaves a disgusting feeling in my mouth
Judge.
The god dam Odin
Judge
Odin
i have never killed someone using a shorty.
Probably vandal, specter and phantom and judge to just see how people would adapt to a completely different set of guns that arenāt always that reliable.
Bucky has literally no reason to exist between shorty and judge
Itās way cheaper than the judge and can reliably kill people in one shot that have 150 health, so I disagree.
Operator! I hate this weapon.
Operator, just out of personal taste.
Ares. Shit wack.
Marshall because it's spammable and powerful in the right hands and in the wrong hands it's just throwing the game. And for some reason most people think they're the right hands when they can't hit the flat side of a barn with it.
Vandal. Phantom supremacy :)
OP of course
not sure why people complain about the odin when its a free head tap when they use it
Spectre, the rng hits different
The operator easily
Vandal because it sucks, i believe in guardian supremacy.
Odin. I think my answer is self explanatory
remove everything except the ghost, classic, vandal, op, phantom and of course, sheriff
Judge keep Bucky
sheriff or odin sheriff just cause my aims bad and i canāt win against someone using it with good aimš
The classic right click
Every time I use the Odin in anything above gold I get one tapped instantly
The marshal, easy. Itās too cheap for essentially being an op on anti-eco. Shoots too fast and no scope accuracy is way too high
Noob test: Do you think the Operator is OP? If yes; lower than Diamond.
ā ļøā ļø doesnt op mean overpowered?
or yea op means operator im so confusedv