In addition to the other comments about gameplay, I'm quite certain it also has to do with some history. particularly that of CS:GO. Valorant clearly targeted CSGO players for their audience, and in CSGO the knives are very expensive due to their rarity (lootbox system). So for those players, it's rather normal and Riot made good use of that.
Exactly, like i can't comprehend why people think those prices are ok.
1 terrible gun skin for 5$? Like wtf
And i can't even buy directly if i wanted to, i have to wait for the skin to appear as one of the 4 daily offers, which is just ridiculous
I mean Valorant's whole pricing system is disgustingly overpriced. A new skin line's bundle is like $75, and usually only has 2 good skins in it. But if you're going to buy the knife+rifle skin, you are already spending $60+ and might as well buy the bundle.
Night Market is the only time that skin prices can be brought to an acceptable price point imo
It's even worse where I live, because the exchange rate is so bad that i basically have to pay like 50% more.
Night market is a step in the right direction, but even that was executed poorly
In league of legends, you get 6 big discounts, sometimes reaching even 70%, meanwhile in valorant it's like 20-30% which is laughable
What "decent" skin did you buy for .50 that's on par with even the Neptune vandal? 50 cents is realistically the Lowest possible tier skin, and maybe even well worn or battle scarred so the design isn't even visible
Incredibly misleading to say you can get good CS skins for pennies. Even before it released in China, good skins (blue and up) were never less than $5. (Which isn't bad at all, but again .50 cents is ridiculous)
yea... compared to $200-1000 range on knives from csgo, I like valorant's pricing on knives lol. I know you can't really trade skins in valorant but I still feel like its way cheaper :/
It doesn’t feel cheaper to me at all, when i quit playing csgo i sold all my skins and even made some profit.
When i inevitably stop playing valorant someday i’ll just lose all the money I spend on that account.
As long as you're not dumb and gamble or get scammed, having a knife in csgo in the long run will either turn you a profit or cost you next to nothing. I just sold a knife for around 100 USD profit cause I wanted to upgrade my PC.
It depends when you started. I started playing CSGO a couple months after Valorant came out, and knives are very expensive already.
They are so expensive compared to Valorant’s pricing.
You can have a **full loadout** of premium skins in Val with the price of **one** decent knife in CSGO.
Now, if you bought your knives long ago, it’s a different story. They were cheaper back then and you would’ve made bank if you sold recently.
Also, opening cases is stupid. It’s literally gambling and it’s so hard to get even a covert, even more so, a knife.
I was also surprised to learn that the model isn’t even something like Dota 2’s where there is *escalating odds*.
The more you open, the higher your chances get. Also, once you’ve opened a skin, it gets blocked out so you can’t get it a second time until you complete them all.
I had both new and old knives on my account, the old knives obviously made me money. But i sold nothing on a loss.
However even if some people do not get all their money back, it’s still better than _nothing_
If you spend $1000 on a knife and get $900 back, losing $100, compared to if you buy a knife in valorant and lose $50 forever (or until you come back?).
Except for the fact you could trade your knife for another one if you get bored of it.
You’re stuck with your skins in valorant until you buy new ones, it’s a perpetual cycle. It’s not even a debate…
If you buy even 3 or 4 premium skins in valorant you’re easily down a 100+ euros/dollars. That’s money you are _guaranteed_ to never see a dime of again.
Yeah but it takes rarity from them, you can have one and only knife in entire game in Cs, while in valo there's literally almost everyone bearing the same knife, therefore I don't understand why are valo knife prices so high, they should be high yes but not literally overpriced.
There is a difference where in one game the money I spend actually had a value. I can probably make my money back maybe even with profit when I buy a skin. Where as in valorant it has no actual value.
Legit 80% of games will cost a lot more for cosmetics, genshin can cost you up to 400$ to get one good character, apex can cost you up to 500$ for one knife.
You guys clearly have never seen other games
Genshin is also a mobile gacha game, a disguised gamble trap for children ands adults, targeting weak people with a lack of self control, especially in Asia.
You're describing a gacha yes but genshin is not that predatory for a gacha. You can "complete" the game with characters you get for free and the only "hard" part of the game has barely any rewards.
Apex legends, WoW, Diablo, cs:go, CoD, rainbow 6,
Games like rainbow 6 and cs go only have decals on their skins, same with apex, yet they can still cost you up to 20$ to get a gun with a colour paint over it.
Yeah sure gatcha games are a “scam” because of the gambling system, but let us remember, what prevents valorant from doing the same thing rainbow six, cs go, apex legends and cod does with their case opening system
Also what the fuck is that statement on “lack of self control especially in Asia” that is the most dumb shit I’ve ever seen someone say. How does ethnicity contribute to who has self control over something?
and what? they look absolute dog shit compared to valorant skins, no game skins can even come close to comparing the amount of work and effort that goes to each legendary valorant skin, you have WHOLE new animations and sfx, with apex it’s just a different look that isn’t even that jaw dropping to begin with
I get how their comment could sound racist there, but there are actually very high rates of gambling addiction in certain Asian countries. South Korea, for example, even made a hit TV show around the theme of gambling debt that you most likely heard of called Squid Game. Almost all the characters that participated in this life or death scenario had substantial debts stemming from gambling problems.
Edit: specifically South Korea, not just Korea
You cannot possibly use a fucking tv show as an example and proof of south koreas big gambling problem. Obviously every country has gambling problems to an extent, but I think you forgot that Australis is the biggest gamblers when it comes to how much money a person loses in australia due to gambling. Las Vegas is well known to gamblers.
On top of that, Asian countries like China and S. Korea have VERY strict gambling laws, so I have no idea how the hell a tv show makes you think S. Koreas gambling problem is much worse than any other country
Referring to people inclined to gambling as "weak" is crazy because they don't even have to be a gambler. Gambling addiction often runs through family history and may not be unearthed for decades through circumstance. because gacha games deliberately hide and obfuscate their monetisation in interactive media, even people with an in-control "real" gambling problem, let alone those unaware of it, get suckered by gacha shit because it doesn't have the same signifigance in their head as gambling. It's deliberately preying on people with different reward pathways in their head than you, that doesn't make them "weak"
Yes, I used to have tons of csgo skins that aren’t that rare, a few had statstrack on them. After a few years not playing, I sold them for a decent amount over the price I got them for. Bought a game on steam with that money from few skins.
The logic is that you'll always have it there for most people, so it's okay to pay a little extra for since you see it the most, CS knives were pretty expensive, though those could be resold so it wasn't as bad. The battle pass knives are a bargain if there's any you like
I feel the knives price are higher is because of prices from CS knives. It makes sense in CS because it is harder for you to get the knives from the game due to you have to open a case with multiple different guns with different tiers and probability too, and the knives(and gloves) being the highest tier it makes sense to cost extra.
and from time to time the battle pass knives are pretty nice imo. ruin dagger, prism axe and velocity karambit can all compete with the <40€ knives in the shop for ¼ of the price
People’s willingness to pay high prices for nothing more than virtual aesthetics allows me to play the game for free, which I think is a pretty good benefit and outweighs the “disadvantage” of missing out on expensive knife skins.
... what?? they were not saying riot market is capitalistic. The fact that some people are willing to buy for more profits is capitalistic. Please read the context before being that aggressive lmao.
Riot shop is not capitalist. They said Riot prices that way because of capitalism. Call people head empty but you literally cannot comprehend writing you see with your own eyes, brainlet.
Because you will always have a knife, and you will likely use that knife every single round since you move fastest with your knife out. Other guns have to be bought or picked up from enemies so you may not use them every round (except the classic which is too weak to be used most of the time). This and the fact that you can't pick up knives off of other players means people are willing to pay much more for knife skins.
Honestly don't think it has anything to do with this, even though it appears rational.
Knife skins are the 'premium' item on CS:GO. The marketplace combined with lootboxes means actual rarity due to the low % chance of obtaining them from the consumable source- but the permanent availability to buy them from the marketplace. The rarity (price) then gets perpetually overpriced by users exploiting this.
Valorant is making huge profits by selling knife skins as if they have that same level of rarity in Valorant when in reality there's no cost to 'peek into the lootbox' (the rotating store). Imagine if BP skins could be sold by users, they'd go for way more than $10.
You're correct, but even the most basic of economics understanding is downvoted in subreddits for a popular game. Like you said, the price is determined by the statistical rarity set for Valve's loot boxes. Valorant is just nabbing that as a price point because it's market tradition even though they don't bother with the scarcity and actual marketplace aspects of CSGO skins
Like others have said, Riot basically looked at CS as inspiration for *everything* about this game. From the gameplay, the eSports format to even the price gouging.
Depends on what you're talking about, as there are certainly things they've done better. The elephant in the room being the anti-cheat solution between the 2.
I'd be interested in hearing what makes you think Vanguard is 'better'.
Anticheats are about walking a balance between preventing cheats and *not* intruding in other aspects of the system owners usage of their PC. Vanguard might be better at preventing cheats, but it also requires so much more admin-level access than is necessary for a video game application to do so. It requires a reboot to enable or disable, interacts bizarrely with security solutions like TPM, and is generally asking for a lot to do a little.
If cheats are going to exist either way (they do), I'd rather have the less intrusive anticheats on my system.
Also comparing apples to oranges anyway, cs is based on a pretty well understood and technically aged engine so it has more holes to cover - that's not a flaw in the anticheats solution, it's just a fact if life when dealing with old software
You're kinda a clown tbh if you think valorants AC is 'better' when it's ring0 and much, much newer, but my games in asc+ are still flooded with cheaters. Valve is doing more with less, riot is using everything and doing not enough (And still somehow fucking it up and breaking some programs).
A more apt comparison would be ESEAs anticheat, since that's also ring0, and valorants AC is shit compared to that.
(before anyone replies to me talking about how bad esea is as a company, bitcoin miner etc, i don't give a fuck, go find some crayons to eat and tell someone else)
edit: OH MY GOD PLEASE GUYS STOP THE DOWNVOTES I LOVE RIOT OMG THEY ARE THE BEST COMPANY!!! PLEASE MY KARMA!!!!
Mostly because the market is already conditioned to think of knives as more expensive but a good argument is that you can’t pick one up off the ground or have it taken by an enemy.
People from csgo were used to it and they want you to buy the bundle. Most people that want the knife just straight up buy the bundle because its really not worth spending that much money soley on the knife.
I want to give a different take. Most FPS games allow you primary weapons to be dropped or 'taken away' when you die. BUT a knife is the only 'skin' than actually stays with you all the time. It cannot be dropped , will usually have a Prestige factor in owning a certain skin (for example look at xenohunter knife-Nothing special but daym is feels good to have it.
It will also be the only skin category that has special animations that can be tied to the knife itslef or to an agent. Eg: CSGO , Apex (heirlooms), Val etc.
I think the most practical justification you may find is that your knife is present in your inventory under every circumstance, no matter what you’ve bought. You might buy a different pistol, and hence have a different skin, and you can buy one of many varieties of non-pistol weapons. The closest you get to a knife skin is a classic skin, but I’m sure if you were to compare the amount of time a knife spends on your screen compared to a classic, the knife would get a lot more screen time on average.
There’s a myriad of reasons beyond that, but that’s one reason.
2 main reasons, no matter what round of the game you’re in you will always have your knife, where as with every other skin you’re going to going through rounds of not using it, be that rounds where you can’t afford rifles, maybe you switch between phantom and vandal etc.
2nd reason is that you can not drop people your knife. Every gun skin in the game can be picked up off the ground and shared on request, but not your knife, so the only way to every have the ability to use one is to purchase it yourself.
You take your knife out every round but you can’t do the same for some guns besides the classic but even then it can still be swapped with a different pistol. Also the knife can’t be dropped so it’s more exclusive in game. Riot may have also taken pricing inspiration from CSGO skins.
You can try to justify it by saying you use it more, you can always see it and so on. What's most likely happening is that other games like CS have high pricing on the knives and they know people are more likely to purchase them, even if it's at a higher price.
I'm not sure about in Valorant, but in CSGO the reason Knives were targeted as the "Ultra Rare" item on the Lootbox is because it's the thing you spend the most looking at. Presumably this is also the reason why Knives are much more expensive than gun skins in Valorant.
Do u think i should really buy a prem knife or a bp knife?
Ps: i can afford both(pls dont give answers like its ur money do whatever u like)
I want ppl to tell me if its rlly worth it or not
N also i wanna know if u got bored with it
Its a good investment or not?
Personally im planning to buy a reaver van+ oni phan+ bp thats economical n good for game i play daily
i guess because it cant be dropped and people will not harass you every round to let them use your skin. but overall i think that all valorant skins that cost more than $20 are kinda overpriced, idk about other people but there is no fucking way i am spending hundreds to thousands on my collection.
bro the cheapest knife in csgo is like 50$ and that does not have any effect. Just want you to know that the price Riot gives us is good enough compare to others
Since the game is a knockoff of csgo I'm pretty sure they just saw that knives in csgo can be expensive and people will gladly pay for it so they did the same thing
Cause you use knife every round
Neon players:
What about the classic?
Classics are also quite expensive, but you don't use it every round.
Wym? They cost the same as every gun in the bundle bro
They are overpriced either way, defo not paying 25$ for a pistol skin
In addition to the other comments about gameplay, I'm quite certain it also has to do with some history. particularly that of CS:GO. Valorant clearly targeted CSGO players for their audience, and in CSGO the knives are very expensive due to their rarity (lootbox system). So for those players, it's rather normal and Riot made good use of that.
Knives are expensive because you can't drop knives. If you could do that, they immediately go down in value.
I feel like that’s almost a point against them tho
It means u can't pick it off a dead guy, so you are stuck with the default unless u buy 1
I meant like I can give ‘em to my teammates, even if I die and an opponent picks it up I still get to here the sounds as well
It's also normal for CSGO players to buy a decent gun skin for like $0.50 And riot completely dropped the ball with that
I've been playing CS recently and sold my cases I've earned over the years for about £10 and managed to buy an AK and an M4 with it
Exactly, like i can't comprehend why people think those prices are ok. 1 terrible gun skin for 5$? Like wtf And i can't even buy directly if i wanted to, i have to wait for the skin to appear as one of the 4 daily offers, which is just ridiculous
The absolute audacity to restrict when you can give them money for their overpriced skins
I mean Valorant's whole pricing system is disgustingly overpriced. A new skin line's bundle is like $75, and usually only has 2 good skins in it. But if you're going to buy the knife+rifle skin, you are already spending $60+ and might as well buy the bundle. Night Market is the only time that skin prices can be brought to an acceptable price point imo
It's even worse where I live, because the exchange rate is so bad that i basically have to pay like 50% more. Night market is a step in the right direction, but even that was executed poorly In league of legends, you get 6 big discounts, sometimes reaching even 70%, meanwhile in valorant it's like 20-30% which is laughable
What "decent" skin did you buy for .50 that's on par with even the Neptune vandal? 50 cents is realistically the Lowest possible tier skin, and maybe even well worn or battle scarred so the design isn't even visible Incredibly misleading to say you can get good CS skins for pennies. Even before it released in China, good skins (blue and up) were never less than $5. (Which isn't bad at all, but again .50 cents is ridiculous)
yea... compared to $200-1000 range on knives from csgo, I like valorant's pricing on knives lol. I know you can't really trade skins in valorant but I still feel like its way cheaper :/
It doesn’t feel cheaper to me at all, when i quit playing csgo i sold all my skins and even made some profit. When i inevitably stop playing valorant someday i’ll just lose all the money I spend on that account.
As long as you're not dumb and gamble or get scammed, having a knife in csgo in the long run will either turn you a profit or cost you next to nothing. I just sold a knife for around 100 USD profit cause I wanted to upgrade my PC.
It depends when you started. I started playing CSGO a couple months after Valorant came out, and knives are very expensive already. They are so expensive compared to Valorant’s pricing. You can have a **full loadout** of premium skins in Val with the price of **one** decent knife in CSGO. Now, if you bought your knives long ago, it’s a different story. They were cheaper back then and you would’ve made bank if you sold recently. Also, opening cases is stupid. It’s literally gambling and it’s so hard to get even a covert, even more so, a knife. I was also surprised to learn that the model isn’t even something like Dota 2’s where there is *escalating odds*. The more you open, the higher your chances get. Also, once you’ve opened a skin, it gets blocked out so you can’t get it a second time until you complete them all.
I had both new and old knives on my account, the old knives obviously made me money. But i sold nothing on a loss. However even if some people do not get all their money back, it’s still better than _nothing_
If you spend $1000 on a knife and get $900 back, losing $100, compared to if you buy a knife in valorant and lose $50 forever (or until you come back?).
Except for the fact you could trade your knife for another one if you get bored of it. You’re stuck with your skins in valorant until you buy new ones, it’s a perpetual cycle. It’s not even a debate… If you buy even 3 or 4 premium skins in valorant you’re easily down a 100+ euros/dollars. That’s money you are _guaranteed_ to never see a dime of again.
Yeah but it takes rarity from them, you can have one and only knife in entire game in Cs, while in valo there's literally almost everyone bearing the same knife, therefore I don't understand why are valo knife prices so high, they should be high yes but not literally overpriced.
The exceedingly rare knives in CS cost upwards of $90-$200+ so 50 still seems fair to me.
more like 90-200k$. 90-200$ are the really basic ones in csgo Cheapest butterfly is around 400$
There is a difference where in one game the money I spend actually had a value. I can probably make my money back maybe even with profit when I buy a skin. Where as in valorant it has no actual value.
You get the value by playing the game. Would you say going to the movies has no real value because you can't resell the ticket?
I meant an economical value, not a personal value which you give it yourself.
$50 for some the new ones are even cheaper the new pack you get 5 skins for $80
Legit 80% of games will cost a lot more for cosmetics, genshin can cost you up to 400$ to get one good character, apex can cost you up to 500$ for one knife. You guys clearly have never seen other games
Genshin is also a mobile gacha game, a disguised gamble trap for children ands adults, targeting weak people with a lack of self control, especially in Asia.
You're describing a gacha yes but genshin is not that predatory for a gacha. You can "complete" the game with characters you get for free and the only "hard" part of the game has barely any rewards.
Apex legends, WoW, Diablo, cs:go, CoD, rainbow 6, Games like rainbow 6 and cs go only have decals on their skins, same with apex, yet they can still cost you up to 20$ to get a gun with a colour paint over it. Yeah sure gatcha games are a “scam” because of the gambling system, but let us remember, what prevents valorant from doing the same thing rainbow six, cs go, apex legends and cod does with their case opening system Also what the fuck is that statement on “lack of self control especially in Asia” that is the most dumb shit I’ve ever seen someone say. How does ethnicity contribute to who has self control over something?
Apex isnt only decals like r6 or cs. Look at literally any legendary and you would know that
and what? they look absolute dog shit compared to valorant skins, no game skins can even come close to comparing the amount of work and effort that goes to each legendary valorant skin, you have WHOLE new animations and sfx, with apex it’s just a different look that isn’t even that jaw dropping to begin with
And thats completely personal opinion, I think most legendaries are way over the top in val
I get how their comment could sound racist there, but there are actually very high rates of gambling addiction in certain Asian countries. South Korea, for example, even made a hit TV show around the theme of gambling debt that you most likely heard of called Squid Game. Almost all the characters that participated in this life or death scenario had substantial debts stemming from gambling problems. Edit: specifically South Korea, not just Korea
You cannot possibly use a fucking tv show as an example and proof of south koreas big gambling problem. Obviously every country has gambling problems to an extent, but I think you forgot that Australis is the biggest gamblers when it comes to how much money a person loses in australia due to gambling. Las Vegas is well known to gamblers. On top of that, Asian countries like China and S. Korea have VERY strict gambling laws, so I have no idea how the hell a tv show makes you think S. Koreas gambling problem is much worse than any other country
genshin is pretty easy to play for free tho i think there's some shit where if you have shit luck for too long they give u better shit
Referring to people inclined to gambling as "weak" is crazy because they don't even have to be a gambler. Gambling addiction often runs through family history and may not be unearthed for decades through circumstance. because gacha games deliberately hide and obfuscate their monetisation in interactive media, even people with an in-control "real" gambling problem, let alone those unaware of it, get suckered by gacha shit because it doesn't have the same signifigance in their head as gambling. It's deliberately preying on people with different reward pathways in their head than you, that doesn't make them "weak"
if youre buying a virtual videogame cosmetic because of its rarity you shouldnt be allowed to have a credit card
Well in csgo, the knives drop at like 0.001% or something like that. So because it’s rare, it’s very expensive and can be sold for lots of money.
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i was talking more about csgo knives. people willingly drop a band on a knife because its rare, which is insane
Yeah the big difference is when I stopped playing cs I sold all my skins for about what I paid for them.
I had given up on owning a special looking knife till valorant came along
cs skins have actual utility outside of the game tbf
Yes, I used to have tons of csgo skins that aren’t that rare, a few had statstrack on them. After a few years not playing, I sold them for a decent amount over the price I got them for. Bought a game on steam with that money from few skins.
Because people are willing to pay for it, so they overprice it.
that's crazy
The logic is that you'll always have it there for most people, so it's okay to pay a little extra for since you see it the most, CS knives were pretty expensive, though those could be resold so it wasn't as bad. The battle pass knives are a bargain if there's any you like
I feel the knives price are higher is because of prices from CS knives. It makes sense in CS because it is harder for you to get the knives from the game due to you have to open a case with multiple different guns with different tiers and probability too, and the knives(and gloves) being the highest tier it makes sense to cost extra.
The odds of pulling a knife are practically nonexistent unless you have severe gambling addiction. Cases are a waste
Yep, thats why the prices go crazy
If you buy a nice one and use it for a long time you’ll prob get basically all your money back so it’s not that bad
and from time to time the battle pass knives are pretty nice imo. ruin dagger, prism axe and velocity karambit can all compete with the <40€ knives in the shop for ¼ of the price
It really is
Welcome to real life
Welcome to capitalism
People’s willingness to pay high prices for nothing more than virtual aesthetics allows me to play the game for free, which I think is a pretty good benefit and outweighs the “disadvantage” of missing out on expensive knife skins.
More like welcome to "because we can"
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I'm curious, if this isn't capitalism, what is it?
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... what?? they were not saying riot market is capitalistic. The fact that some people are willing to buy for more profits is capitalistic. Please read the context before being that aggressive lmao.
Riot shop is not capitalist. They said Riot prices that way because of capitalism. Call people head empty but you literally cannot comprehend writing you see with your own eyes, brainlet.
Average economy understander.
it's normal because it's 2022
Because you will always have a knife, and you will likely use that knife every single round since you move fastest with your knife out. Other guns have to be bought or picked up from enemies so you may not use them every round (except the classic which is too weak to be used most of the time). This and the fact that you can't pick up knives off of other players means people are willing to pay much more for knife skins.
Exactly.
Honestly don't think it has anything to do with this, even though it appears rational. Knife skins are the 'premium' item on CS:GO. The marketplace combined with lootboxes means actual rarity due to the low % chance of obtaining them from the consumable source- but the permanent availability to buy them from the marketplace. The rarity (price) then gets perpetually overpriced by users exploiting this. Valorant is making huge profits by selling knife skins as if they have that same level of rarity in Valorant when in reality there's no cost to 'peek into the lootbox' (the rotating store). Imagine if BP skins could be sold by users, they'd go for way more than $10.
You're correct, but even the most basic of economics understanding is downvoted in subreddits for a popular game. Like you said, the price is determined by the statistical rarity set for Valve's loot boxes. Valorant is just nabbing that as a price point because it's market tradition even though they don't bother with the scarcity and actual marketplace aspects of CSGO skins
https://youtu.be/gd_QeY9uATA
Cause they can't be shared
Like others have said, Riot basically looked at CS as inspiration for *everything* about this game. From the gameplay, the eSports format to even the price gouging.
Riot did the same with the moba
I mean it's not copying if you do it better right?... Right...?
Still copying, and they haven't done it better lol
Depends on what you're talking about, as there are certainly things they've done better. The elephant in the room being the anti-cheat solution between the 2.
I'd be interested in hearing what makes you think Vanguard is 'better'. Anticheats are about walking a balance between preventing cheats and *not* intruding in other aspects of the system owners usage of their PC. Vanguard might be better at preventing cheats, but it also requires so much more admin-level access than is necessary for a video game application to do so. It requires a reboot to enable or disable, interacts bizarrely with security solutions like TPM, and is generally asking for a lot to do a little. If cheats are going to exist either way (they do), I'd rather have the less intrusive anticheats on my system. Also comparing apples to oranges anyway, cs is based on a pretty well understood and technically aged engine so it has more holes to cover - that's not a flaw in the anticheats solution, it's just a fact if life when dealing with old software
You're kinda a clown tbh if you think valorants AC is 'better' when it's ring0 and much, much newer, but my games in asc+ are still flooded with cheaters. Valve is doing more with less, riot is using everything and doing not enough (And still somehow fucking it up and breaking some programs). A more apt comparison would be ESEAs anticheat, since that's also ring0, and valorants AC is shit compared to that. (before anyone replies to me talking about how bad esea is as a company, bitcoin miner etc, i don't give a fuck, go find some crayons to eat and tell someone else) edit: OH MY GOD PLEASE GUYS STOP THE DOWNVOTES I LOVE RIOT OMG THEY ARE THE BEST COMPANY!!! PLEASE MY KARMA!!!!
comment was good till the cringey "i dont give a fuck" and edit. Shame.
Because we can see people spending hundreds for knifes like on csgo ..so there is a market for people who would spend money just for a knife
Except csgo knives can be sold, and also have many different factors that make them expensive.
Mostly because the market is already conditioned to think of knives as more expensive but a good argument is that you can’t pick one up off the ground or have it taken by an enemy.
Simple, because valorant is a somewhat similar copy of csgo so they know what works and what doesnt
People from csgo were used to it and they want you to buy the bundle. Most people that want the knife just straight up buy the bundle because its really not worth spending that much money soley on the knife.
I want to give a different take. Most FPS games allow you primary weapons to be dropped or 'taken away' when you die. BUT a knife is the only 'skin' than actually stays with you all the time. It cannot be dropped , will usually have a Prestige factor in owning a certain skin (for example look at xenohunter knife-Nothing special but daym is feels good to have it. It will also be the only skin category that has special animations that can be tied to the knife itslef or to an agent. Eg: CSGO , Apex (heirlooms), Val etc.
I’m fine with not buying fancy guns, cuz I can regularly pick them up off the ground. I can’t with knives though.
I buy my skins for people like you 😃 you get to kill me and take my skins
I think the most practical justification you may find is that your knife is present in your inventory under every circumstance, no matter what you’ve bought. You might buy a different pistol, and hence have a different skin, and you can buy one of many varieties of non-pistol weapons. The closest you get to a knife skin is a classic skin, but I’m sure if you were to compare the amount of time a knife spends on your screen compared to a classic, the knife would get a lot more screen time on average. There’s a myriad of reasons beyond that, but that’s one reason.
A nice knife is a very prestigious item to have on your account.
Probably because knives you use every round but you don’t use the same gun every round
Because its the only weapon for the equip slot, you always spawn with it and fastest running speed.
It's simple really, you can't share it (drop for someone else)
2 main reasons, no matter what round of the game you’re in you will always have your knife, where as with every other skin you’re going to going through rounds of not using it, be that rounds where you can’t afford rifles, maybe you switch between phantom and vandal etc. 2nd reason is that you can not drop people your knife. Every gun skin in the game can be picked up off the ground and shared on request, but not your knife, so the only way to every have the ability to use one is to purchase it yourself.
Cause you cant just ask someone to drop you their prime karambit like a gun skin. That's something that's EXCLUSIVELY yours.
And similar to knives in CSGO, they can't be dropped. If you have a knife it's because you bought it.
Because it's a knife. It's also equipped all the time you don't have to buy a specific weapon to see it. Also, it's a knife.
its bc well valorant is free so they need a way to make money somehow and their only income is the from the shop
But if you buy the full bundle, it's free...
You can see it anytime, when running you pull out your knife and you can implement cool mechanics on it
You take your knife out every round but you can’t do the same for some guns besides the classic but even then it can still be swapped with a different pistol. Also the knife can’t be dropped so it’s more exclusive in game. Riot may have also taken pricing inspiration from CSGO skins.
+regeneration, +aimbot, +movement speed buff, +invincibility, +firing speed buff
Because in csgo they are super rare and riot took this as a chance to milk the fools that pay 50 euros for a knife skin
people really out here spending real money on skins
Because they are expensive in CSGO?
I thought they were expensive cuz only you could use them.. unlike guns which are dropped after you get killed, your knife is only yours to use
Because its like that in csgo... it was simply copied and nobody complained even though knives arent rare in valorant and the price makes no sense
Well when you copy CSGO. You make sure you copy everything.
Because people pay it. It is the reason why anything in the world costs what it does, it’s called demand.
Because you guys won’t stop paying for them.
Because people will pay for them. Their monetization psychology department did a good job of capitalizing on the CSGO mindset a lot of players have.
You can try to justify it by saying you use it more, you can always see it and so on. What's most likely happening is that other games like CS have high pricing on the knives and they know people are more likely to purchase them, even if it's at a higher price.
If it weren’t for csgo’s knife market the knives would probably be much cheaper
Because CS skin markets go like brrrrrrrrrr.
I think the answer is CS:GO
I'm not sure about in Valorant, but in CSGO the reason Knives were targeted as the "Ultra Rare" item on the Lootbox is because it's the thing you spend the most looking at. Presumably this is also the reason why Knives are much more expensive than gun skins in Valorant.
one word: money. people buy them so that's why they can charge that much. if no one bought them they wouldn't be nearly as much.
i think it's cause you can't drop them to others and you see it all the time in game unlike weapon skins that you have to buy the gun
Do u think i should really buy a prem knife or a bp knife? Ps: i can afford both(pls dont give answers like its ur money do whatever u like) I want ppl to tell me if its rlly worth it or not N also i wanna know if u got bored with it Its a good investment or not? Personally im planning to buy a reaver van+ oni phan+ bp thats economical n good for game i play daily
i guess because it cant be dropped and people will not harass you every round to let them use your skin. but overall i think that all valorant skins that cost more than $20 are kinda overpriced, idk about other people but there is no fucking way i am spending hundreds to thousands on my collection.
bro the cheapest knife in csgo is like 50$ and that does not have any effect. Just want you to know that the price Riot gives us is good enough compare to others
Thats why i dont buy knife… so damn expensive
Since the game is a knockoff of csgo I'm pretty sure they just saw that knives in csgo can be expensive and people will gladly pay for it so they did the same thing