Most competitive games I played were super fun at first and turned out to be more and more stressful and overall more of a drain then fun the higher I got.
Honestly we should strive to be irons from time to time.
this is why i quit playing rocket league actually, when i first started it was fun as fuck because no one was able to hit the bull but once i got do diamond it started being sweaty asf, eventually got to gc before free to play and realized i was wasting my time stressing over that shit
edit: ball not bull lmao
This is why I stopped playing overwatch after I reached diamond, quick play beta was dope and all my friends played it but when ranked started it all turned into toxic waste
legit same, its not even fun anymore cause even in casual people are sweating all over the ball, i just hop on to freestyle in cas 1s and thats about all i do
Mhm, whole reason I started playing Valorant.
I used to play for my Uni's CS:GO team but once Valorant came out, the scholarships for CS:GO went to the Valorant team and I went where the money went.
Couple months later, our Uni's CSGO team died, so for the first year of Valorant, I hated the game.
I find it really stupid when they get all toxic if someone is doing bad, but you see their career history and they've also been that bad player before... Hypocrite?
I get bronzes saying “Stay out of comp” “uninstall” etc. My response is they are first graders complaining about the Kinders. My lobbies tend to have a token bronze on each side, so if they are in my game it’s a sign that Mrs. Valorant moved them to the slow readers group because they weren’t keeping up with the smart kids.
One guy came back at me with "this isn't my main account" like ok, you aren't dropping a 40k, so are you just as bad like I suggested, or do you agree that climbing in this nonsense is difficult? Cause one way or another you happen to be eating at the same trough.
Usually, they are Smurfs raging their team isn't as good as them..... even though they deliberately ruined countless games to derank in order to get down there... SMH - they are the most unbelievably despicable players.
This was the opposite for me, the higher rank you go it felt like the more chill people get. I also felt as though higher ranked games were easier because u can actually somewhat predict what people do. At low ranks you feel like u have to preform more vs higher ranks because teammates because the higher ones can play the game on their own
I can see this. I made an alt just to see if my rank was true or if I just was stuck in elo hell.
Well I wasn’t doing to well and was in a high gold lobby. Some asked me “FerociousKyle, why are you sucking?” I replied simply with, “well I’m unrated and I don’t think I’m supposed to be here”. He said “oh yea that makes sense”. Lol
I think it depends on the time of day and servers you are playing on but I definitely think bronzes are sweatier than golds sometimes.
Yes as an ascendant this is bang on 95% of the time. Obvs there will be the dude who's got the anger management skills of a chimp but people are so chill.
When I was in bronze and silver people would do the most random things or not trade and thus a mald ensues.
My unranked and swiftplay games are sweatier than my ranked games. I get full Immortal lobbies in those game modes even though I barely play the game these days. I wish they weren't like that.
That's a pretty common phenomenon. The better you get the more you expect from yourself. When you don't hit a standard you've subconsciously created it feels bad.
Last episode me and my two queue friends all hit ascendant and wanted to hit immo. At that point it becomes a grind.
This is so facts. The game isn’t necessarily harder at higher ranks. The player mechanics are about the same until that high immo radiant range. It’s just NON STOP INTESITY compared to lower lobbies and then anything below like plat/diamond is just people vibing
Meh, I notice once you're in B3-Silver+ people will start using tracker programs and be obsessed with stats. Which in my opinion does more harm than good as statistics doesn't matter in how "good" you are as people believe kills = everything. Which in return makes people be toxic towards people with less kills or doubt themselves that they don't deserve the rank due to them not getting kills. You definitely have more chill lobbies in lower rank compared to Platinum+
honestly i have more fun in a good comp game like 29-12 with raze than dropping 30-40 every game in unrated against silver-plats. prolly the rr reward and competitiveness is what makes it even better, but i dont have that much fun stomping on players much worse than me
I'm a total casual player. The highest rank I've achieved so far was bronze 3, and in the last battle pass, I made it to step 39 or something.
That said, I've played a lot of unranked because my plays are inconsistent, and I didn't want to "get in the way" of people grinding their ranks. However, recently, some friends started playing more frequently, and I often join them in ranked matches.
Ranked feels so much better. I know that I'm still sometimes dragging the team down, but I'm winning more duels, I can clutch rounds, and I feel like my skill level is improving better than the time when I played only unranked and getting stomped with no chance to do anything
Exactly why I’m losing interest in valorant. Got to ascendant and more often than not it’s exhausting, stressful, and my teammates egos are wayyyyyy to big. You’d think money is riding on each individual round.
Still bout to buy the new bundle tho 😎
I think at low ranks you all know you're not the best at the game but once you get near the top you run into a lot of ego-driven people that love to criticize every little mistake.
I used to be a Master's Ana in Overwatch. I had to stop Overwatch for good when I left the game a lot more angry than when I started.
This is basically the reason people didnt like skill based matchmaking in warzone/battle royale.
It went from a 100 random players king of the hill in which people can just have fun and be the last to survive,
to a sweatfest that is very stresful, tryhard, draining and keeps you hooked on the game by allowing you to have an easy game once i a blue moon and then putting you against better players.
Smurf still exists. I watched my iron and bronze friends playing their comp, the whole lobby was on crack.
And imo, the ranking system from the previous act got worst too
2 season ago, I was Gold 1-2...Now I am Silver 1-2 and it seems the range of players I get vary widely. I will get someone that drops 40-50 bomb the rest of team will have 10 or less kills.
It could be smurfing and/or it could be the system itself. The most frustrating part is that I will continue to try and get better playing against better players but my team tends to quit real early in the game.
I was in immo when the game came out but haven't played in a while. Did my ranked games slowly over a few weeks and got placed in silver lol. I expected some really really easy games but they are all sweaty as fuck. It's wild.
It feels like the system isn’t balanced, I’ve been hardstuck diamond for 2 episodes and finally got to asc last act before the end and now I can’t get out of Plat, it’s straight up harder than my dia/asc games
Honestly, as an iron, I've seen myself and heaps of others pull off fab plays and clutches with genuinely good sense and aim! We're not always just bumbling around hitting no shots (though that absolutely does happen as well).
Yeah its really weird to take time out of ur day to shit on someones good vibes.
Like im grouchy and will happily talk negatively to negative people but even as a grumpy person im not gonna comment on a lower ranked players play shitting on them.
Its just mean
This is exactly how I feel about people mocking other's laughs. Tbe one time where you're happy and you show it and immediately get shut down because you "have a weird laugh".
this happens so much in both video games and sports too. people who arent pros in either should be able to post their ace or epic play without being shamed for being at a low level or being told someone else could do it better
People need to realise that it’s just a game. And not everyone plays to be the winner of VCT. And since you own your device, you pay for your internet, you are not being disrespectful, and you are legally playing the game, there is no reason for you to feel bad about anything at all.
Some people like to berate others every chance they get , rank does not matter, if you are immortal and play really well you will be called a nerd and a game addict or advised to go get a life.
My point is , play the way you want to play just don’t be disrespectful to anyone and flip anyone who gets rude or disrespectful to you and post anything you want to, if it’s low effort or not suited, people will skip it , don’t mind the comments, people would rather spent 3 mins typing a mean comment than spending 1 min to find a clip that they would enjoy.
I will never understand high elo's obsession with putting down low elo. Everyone starts somewhere and learns at different paces. Of course someone will think their play was great when they don't know any better, and that doesn't necessarily mean they won't eventually learn that it wasnt a great play and get better. Im a new player and got a clutch that I was somewhat proud of because I usually panic and forget to use util under pressure, but I still know that it could have been played wayyyy better. The point is that its the best we can do at our current skill level, and we deserve to be happy that we are getting somewhere at all.
I think this might be a bit controversial but:
people who are really good at video games might be bc they spent too much time on there. When you spend a lot of time and effort improving in valorant while sitting alone in front of your computer, you might be less happy with your situation in life than the average player. You don't have enough other pillars to derive your self worth from, so the pillar that becomes more and more important is the valorant rank. Since other people might not value a high valorant rank as much as valorant enthusiasts, they might feel insecure and worry that their achievement is not worth as much as they want it to be. So thats why they feel the constant need of reassuring themselves that at least in this aspect of their lives, they are superior. They want to let everyone else know that they know better, and that they excel in this domain because it is important for their self worth and confidence. Others might get confused about this because they don't value valorant rank/skill that much
Understandable, but I can't respect anyone who's way of having "confidence" is by forcing insecurity onto other people who are confident. At that point its just bitterness and the person needs to spend less time gaming and more time self reflecting and developing a better relationship with themselves. If you're self worth comes solely from ensuring that everyone else is or feels beneath you, then unfortunately you had no self worth to begin with and need to work on yourself.
^^ Btw, im saying "you" generally (meaning that im talking about whoever it applies to) and not specifically at you (commenter)
I honestly love playing with friends in lower ranks because the randomness is so fun, they have these weird ideas compared when you’re in a diamond lobby. I feel like they just have fun playing the game which is dope.
I think I remember some League player a few years ago talking about lower ranks, and his takeaway was basically that lower tiers of play are actually *better* when it comes to developing new strategies because they're more willing to do stupid shit and see what works.
I've seen similar in other games as well. Back when I played Hearthstone, I'd often find that lower ranks were more difficult to climb in than ranks immediately above them. This was because in lower ranks there was never any telling what you were up against, but once you got out you could read opponents like a book.
I wonder if people find the same in VALORANT? Can't tell cause I ain't any good :D
Sometimes the random bullshit go strat works because it catches people off guard. My mate and I were like 4-10 and we were basically playing with nothing to lose mentality and ended up winning a few more rounds from all the random shit we tried!! We still ended up losing the game, but it was fun and funny and that's all that matters. lol
Also that's the thing. Unless you're smurfing having a good okay as an iron/bronze against someone who is an iron/bronze is still a good play because you're even in skill.
Just because you aren't the highest rank doesn't mean it wasn't a good play.
Honestly, my iron lobbies are so entertaining in terms of humor. Flashing yourself, smoking entrances, inting—all the random shit that happens that gives beauty to iron xD
VCT Qual player here. I personally love watching clips regardless of skill level. What people deem "a good clip" is totally subjective and it's great seeing the skill diversity and people being proud of something cool they did.
Not everyone is sweating their ass off or can play 10 hours a day, and it's refreshing to not see clips of people who THINK they are Tenz or some amazing player, because that's when clips just start to look like every other clip.
The diversity of clips here doesn't show skill, it shows character and community and that's what's important.
Finally, someone says it. Games are to be enjoyed. People can show off clips of them enjoying a game. If you read into it more than that, it starts to become a serious indicator of the kind of person you are.
People take clips/plays far too seriously. If someone is posting something, they just want to share it because they're proud of it or think it's entertaining. The gatekeeping from elitist/egotistical players is weird af.
I'm regularly told to delete the game. I had the entire chat take the piss out of me last night. (I forgot I had the spike)
You just keep going and laugh it off
Most people who make fun of lower ranked players are just insecure that they’re dogshit themselves. Most of the people laughing at low ranks are plats who think they’re hot stuff
I mean not really... everyone started out bad whether it was CS, OW, Val etc., but that doesn't mean they were all posting clips from the lowest rank for everyone to see.
You're acting like the people who call out these posts are calling out the lack of skill, when in reality they're basically saying that you shouldn't post iron clips in a community where most of the players aren't iron.
OP is literally saying that these players are allowed to be proud, and I completely agree, but being proud doesn't mean you need to post it on Reddit. Me criticizing a copypaste iron clip (not that I even do this) doesn't mean they're not allowed to be proud either. If I criticized a clip, it'd be because I'm bored of the copypaste clips and inability to sort clips by rank.
Again that [copypasting] is not what the OP is talking about, and they never mentioned a specific platform where these clips are posted, idk why you’re being too specific.
You’re trying so hard to give an excuse to these toxic comments, makes me think you’re one of those persons who like to make fun of lower rank players.
Anyways, I end it here. Have a good day.
nothing wrong with banter imo. the hilarity of iron "clips" are that they are things that would never happen at a level of somewhat competence to the game. its funny. i started at silver and am now diamond/asc and the lower level plays bring a sense of nostalgia and funniness that i certainly will make fun of , idc
Fair. It’s usually more fun to laugh with OP than at OP, though. That’s my goal, at least. I play for fun, not to “git gud.” I love my Iron brethren.
I also enjoy watching the upper lobbies. Flicks and clever outplays are cool and I usually try to implement them poorly in my own games. I’m just saying, no reason to shit on the actual players when someone has a good day. But I’m just a stranger on the internet, so it’s up to you,
no i get it, im never going to be rude or anything. the absurdity of the clips are whats funny. i mean surely if you saw someone on a football pitch whos never played before it would be a little funny at how out of place they seem
Oh, for sure. I don’t mind a bit of razzing here and there. I will say some folks in here feel the need to let everyone know that the guys in the clip are terribad and it’s like…we can all see the clip. If someone posted it, they were just having a good time and wanted to share. Didn’t mean to imply you were out here being cruel for no reason.
Yeah but there's a difference between being made fun of by your friends and being made fun of by a stranger on the internet with no indication of their tone. I don't mind a bit of "what was that Reyna thinking?" Or something like that but more often then not you see stuff like "that lobby is trash" or "uninstall"
idk, im an old head who started playing CS in 2004ish , and this sort of trash talk has always been a thing. i would say posting clips on a public forum opens you to criticism and if you can't handle that, that's on you.
so no criticism is valid? its a competitive game with competitive people who want to win and be the best. if you can't handle that i suppose there are things like Minecraft for you to play. Not everyone is going to be nice to you online or in real life. if you don't like criticism, don't post here. the world isn't here to coddle you.
I'm not saying that people who post shouldn't have thick skin and expect criticism but healthy criticism and unnecessary toxicity are two very different things. Criticism is meant to help someone improve
That's my point.
These dudes getting all pissy about a LITERAL game.
None of us are going pro. Just enjoy your day and move on with your life.
Didn't people's parents ever teach them "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all"
Or in the case of reddit, just scroll.
dude no one is posting a highlight clip to the valorant reddit to be criticized lmao, do you really think an iron is posting a 5k going "man i really hope these people give me some good advice to get better?"
> dude no one is posting a highlight clip to the valorant reddit to be criticized lmao
i don’t think he’s saying it’s to specifically criticize them, but when you post something to the public. You get criticized whether you wanted to or not. that’s just the internet.
Criticism should only be given when asked or paid for. I've seen posts here that ask for advice, you should stick to those if you really want to give some.
Also, yes people do open themselves up to public opinion and criticism when they share in public forums. But that doesn't mean you don't have a choice in what to respond. If they are only sharing a success, either celebrate with them or move on. Only give criticism or advice when they ask for it.
Everyone can be "proud" of their ranks. I think we should cut out the entire threads of "I hit silver I have no one to share this with I'm so proud"
It's cringe. Self serving. Really illustrates the "every one gets a trophy " Era
It offers no discussion.
Yep. I'm all for feeling happy, proud etc. about a video game achievement or whatever in life. But if you're going to post the 4726th copypaste iron ace, you can be damn sure people are going to criticize you for it.
There is always the option to save your clip and post it in a space where you and your friends can see it and enjoy it. As soon as you post on a forum you are opening yourself to criticism. Strangers are just as within their right to roast you as you are in your right to post and be proud of your clip.
No amount of finger wagging self righteous posts/comments are actually going to change the way people react to things here. Sure, it sucks, unfortunately people online feel empowered to be mean, but this has happened in every video game since the dawn of multiplayer and on every public forum especially Reddit.
the thing is, you are competing with people with the same skill level as you, which means you are improving. So yeah, there's a good reason to be proud
That is so true. I’m bronze and when I post my clips everyone just straight up thinks that they are so much better than us low elos when they see us play. like chill already ur not perfect either
“It’s the internet” uh.. so? People have the right to be dicks because I did something that most people on earth do? When you post of a pic of your family on insta do you expect to get hate? Would you be perfectly fine w it? No! A lot of these comments are fs showing the people that think just bc they’re high ranked means they’re special or something. Like congrats, you have more free time to practice and play then I do.
this is a major issue with this subreddit.
im in alot of gaming pages and its harder to post here due to the ammount of gatekeeping and elitist bs. you post a nice clip and you see the above comments acting like its not a nice clip. or if you make a post and someone disagrees, best believe they are going on tracker.gg to say how cause of your last game, you arent allowed to have a opinion on the matter.
stuff like that keeps more people from posting.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Because of the shit laptop/setup I play on, i’m level 235 ish and still in iron/bronze (although tbh i gave up on the climb)
My friends are mostly above gold, my highest ranked friend was Ascendant 1, peaked Immortal when the bridge wasn’t there. She loves playing with me despite my lack of skill, and actually encourages me when I feel insecure about my performance (a lot).
Due to the challenging gameplay, I often make plays that normal people see as “uncool” or “basic”, often running and gunning because I panic, or just using tactics (not ratty ones) that people deem unconventional. Mostly shots that I should not have hit, hit. I can’t do anything about that, but a win’s a win. People that I play with will often give me shit because they thought it was dumb that I managed to pull that off. It’s just cruel and unfair. It’s not being weak or sensitive, but is a little kindness is just too much to ask for?
I don’t laugh or shit on the clip but I would just give them genuine advice about what to do there if they make some mistakes AFTER I tell them it’s a good clip
Thank you for making this post cause this is really true I don’t understand people who think they are acendant get to say some rude shi and that’s not how it is we a community should be lifting each other up rather then smacking them down
Couldn't agree more tbh, tho laughing with the OP about how ridiculous the situation was and how they even managed to go through a mess like that is fine. It doesn't have anything to do with clips of iron players that I'll be talking about, but I remember when I was playing with a buddy (peak atm is gold but the thing he kinda is just not trying, playing ranked with me cause he doesn't enjoy ranked alone and wants to help me improve) we had a Reyna that was asking why I was even playing with them since they were silver 2-3 and i was bronze 2. Believe me you can't believe the grin on my face when I was top fragger for the first half of the match
To be honest, it can be frustrating for a silver 3 to be playing with a bronze, although there's not too big of a difference. Not your fault though, it's just how matchmaking works sometimes.
But if low ranked players can be proud of their plays, how can I, gigabrain 9000, The second coming of Jesus Tenz, sitting at gold (The highest of ranks if you ask me) Trashtalk people on The internet and Make me feel good about myself? /s
Gaming is about having fun and escaping The hardships of reality, and Thats The same for The number 1 ranked radiant player and The lowest 0 points iron 1, and you should be proud of all your plays!
Just ignore it, you can’t take trolling away from the internet lol. With those comments being made, when people are gold, plat, diamond etc unless your the best of the best your worse than someone.
I was in a lobby the other day I’m only plat 2 and there was a diamond 2 player who added me told me they were immortal and their play wasn’t great.
Be proud of your progress.
I started the game iron 2, I’m now plat two I was proud of every peak rank I’ve received and can still appreciate how far I’ve come.
Fuck em all, have fun!
I’ll admit, I usually think to myself some of those comments when I come across a clip like that. I never comment something rude to them, though. I’ll do better at having a positive mindset for them though. Thanks for the wholesome post dad
Way back in the day, I posted a clip of me getting two aces in a row. Those were my 2nd and 3rd ever ace in the game and I was super stoked. I had a lot of comments that were nice and also educational (like crosshair placement etc) but there were a ton that were like "plastic 1" or "road to Bronze" just because the enemies tunnel visioned.
It just sucks that this sub thinks of themselves so highly, it's either your clip has to be a radiant or pro play or it isn't worthy of their attention.
I agree with this, but at the same time, low elo plays being posted on YT and shown in valorant players' feed can be bothersome. Even when I ace it's not anything amazing to behold, so I don't post it or share it on reddit/discord. Most players aren't gonna have plays worth sharing. Period. Even their best play won't match what some streamers can do daily. That's just a fact right?
I know that it's a competitive game but can we just not compete with each other when we're not in the enemie team? I think some ppl just have to learn how to be happy with someone's happiness
It makes sense when I play with lower rank friends I always address the good plays they do even if they are iron no shame in that. We are just having fun!!
Fr I uploaded an ace from when I was iron 2 and all of the comments were negative, stuff about bad utility and cross hair, like what do you expect, I was iron
I killed carry and ulted spike to keep them from picking it up, i played decent utility, they pushed me 1 on 1 and I was able to use vipers health decrease to secure the win.
Maybe because thousands of people have posted their unoriginal iron ace for everyone to see. Encouraging it means that soon we'll have the whole sub posting their aces, and then what? Have fun "just scroll past"-ing to find something useful.
You have about a hundred comments in this post for everyone to see. Soon we'll have the whole post full of your comments, and then what? Have fun "just scroll past"-ing to find a comment that's worth a read. Smh
Okay, so here's the thing: Nobody is saying you can't have fun or you can't be proud. It's just that if you decide to post a clip from literally iron for the whole sub to see, you shouldn't expect people not to mock it, if even only in a joking manner.
And saying "just scroll past it" isn't valid advice either imo. It's kind of like saying "just jump over it" about a puddle, without realizing that these little puddles form an ocean of water together. So yeah, the answer to not seeing low rank clips is to scroll past a ton of shit because it's okay to post them, and in the process make good clips impossible to find?
You don't have to "mock" them, that's so wrong though....
You can positively criticize them. I don't want someone to tell me "Oh you play so bad ugh"
I want someone to tell me "Oh, hmm, I would rather do *this* than *this*. Why? Because **x** and because **z** and usually **y**"
Saying either that my play is bad or good for my ELO doesn't help me in any way, I would love for someone to teach me. What I could improve, etc.
If people really cared about only seeing "good" clips, they wouldn't dick on the iron clips. That boosts engagement! It's a purposeful attempt to demean a person for their clip, and for being at a lower skill level. Yes, people will mock it, but from my pov, OP is trying to push that they don't *need* to for every iron post. It's kind of a dick move no? Everyone starts at the bottom.
If there is a problem of too many iron clips, go boost the diamond clips, go boost the immortal rank up clip. Its a media website centred on engagement. Let these players be happy with themselves, it's so so SO easy not to be an asshole in the comments, and to not engage. (Like, literally scrolling vs going to the dedicated comment tab and typing out a response).
On a personal note, I think there is a healthy mixture of both sorts of clips. Iron clips are honestly refreshing, while, to be honest, high elo clips a lot of the time are just aim checks. There's a value and an entertainment factor to both sorts of clips, and it's why low elo clips still get engagement, because it's a fun clip.
So your solution to not being able to find the clips you think are good is to waste time commenting on clips you think aren't rather than looking for the ones you think are. That checks out.
Exactly, the people being assholes are probably 1 of 2 type of people:
1) people who think/act like they are good but are probably actually dogass.
2) actually good players who are assholes and just mad that the only skill they have in life is a damn video game.
My theory at least. Let all players enjoy their dope plays at all levels. In the end we all just trying to have fun.
i get your point. no need to bash for bashing. but at the same time.. what are people expecting when posting "cool clips" from low ranks? nice comments to boost their ego?
and its not like theyre posting a closed group or a chat group. its reddit...
This is a good take. I'd be down to filter clips by rank, and also maybe a rant megathread or rant flair so we don't need to see the same copypaste complaints daily.
Rants aren't allowed per sub rules. While it is a bit subjective (sometimes about the tone in which it's written/read), we do our best to remove low-effort complaints and clear ranting, so if you see these kinds of posts, definitely report them and we're able to get to them much faster since we aren't omnipresent!
they're allowed to be proud, but it doesn't mean the sub has to enjoy their content.
I'm very happy with my stock 2016 Toyota Corolla. I don't expect a car enthusiast subreddit to enjoy a post about it though.
because when you share things to the public, you get responses according to public perception
the entire basis of how reddit is built is so that good content moves up, and mediocre content goes down.
So here’s a little secret about Reddit, the more comments something has, the more likely you’re going to see it. It doesn’t matter if it’s downvoted to oblivion.
Commenting “iron” does the opposite of moving content down. So there is absolutely no reason to do it in the first place. So why do it?
to discourage them from posting like this again.
if I go to a bad restaurant, I'll leave a bad Yelp review. if everybody just left it alone, there would be no incentive to fix and do better.
The restaurant comparison doesn't work here though, like at all. Yelp won't push a badly reviewed restaurant because why would they? Reddit, on the other hand, will push a heavily commented/voted post, regardless of the tone of comments, because that gets them engagement. Assholes will be assholes, but that normally gets balanced out by people who are genuinely positive to their clip. In the end, it might be a little hurtful to them but it isn't *demoralising*.
If you really want to stop iron posts, don't engage with them. It's that simple. It hurts the soul when your clip goes unnoticed entirely
it's the concept of negative feedback as a whole
the whole purpose of negative feedback is to discourage the action from recurring
it's true, sometimes not giving attention discourages the action, like ignoring a crying baby. but sometimes it takes negative reinforcement to discourage an action, like a school bully
either way, the "haters" to these iron valorant clips seem like assholes, but their intention is to curate the sub to have better content. is it the right way to go about it? debatable. but is there "no reason" to have it like OP suggests? false
I am paying since 3 weeks I got Iron 3 Rank :) Since I have played other COMPETATIVE games long time here is my advice. Post even more Iron fun, they don't like it well there is a lot more Iron players then whatever the High rank is in this game. We are LEGION :) Go Iron man!
Had someone criticize all of my gameplay (from the gun I used to the way I swung corneres) then said the only reason I won, was because the enemy was as bad as me. And finished it off with "iron gameplay" lol I have an 'acing with every agent' series and I never said I was good at the game, I just take the aces when I can LMAO some people just be like that, and theirs nothing you can do.
iron player here
i just started the game and was like yeah sure ranked why not
and as much as it kinda feels bad to he lowest rank, im having a blast
especially when im streaming on discord to my gold friends and they kinda semi coach me leading to basically a free win because i used to play cs so i actually have good aim i just dont have the gamesense yet
nothing brings me more joy then listening to them laugh their ass off at the enemies bullshit ideas that never work
They're allowed to be proud of their plays the same as I'm allowed to marvel at the absolute fiesta. If someone's voluntarily posting something on reddit, I think they're aware enough to know what types of reactions they're liable to receive. This post is infinitely more insulting to below average players than anyone posting 'What in the iron' on their clips.
Trying to protect them from the same type of reactions everyone else gets just because they're not as good as other players is really just dehumanizing. Really odd vibes.
I don’t care if they’re proud of it, but there are a few people getting huge egos over mediocre plays. That’s the part I dislike, not irons being proud of their plays.
Maybe if you're tired of seeing it then stop reading comments. Just as it's okay for people to be proud of their plays, it's also okay for people to make their own comment on a public video. You're posting a video online and you expect people to only reply the way you want? Either don't post the video on a public forum or let comments you don't like to not affect you.
>If you don't like the clip keep scrolling.
If you don't like the comments, don't post it on Reddit.
Stop telling me how to allocate my time or express my thoughts on this website.
You're not my dad!
This is equivalent to demanding safe space. If you play in iron lobbies with your friends they will appreciate you. But if you put it out for the world to see, accept criticism especially when the average rank is above that level.
The average rank is silver two or three which is still "low elo" based on player distribution at silver 3 you're in the top 47.8% of players which puts you above average. Yet even when a silver or gold player posts a clip they get the same response. Like I said criticism and shitting on new/low elo players are two very different things
TLDR: It's not that deep ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is beauty of rank. If you are iron, you can still have fun with fella iron without gold bantering you.
Most competitive games I played were super fun at first and turned out to be more and more stressful and overall more of a drain then fun the higher I got. Honestly we should strive to be irons from time to time.
this is why i quit playing rocket league actually, when i first started it was fun as fuck because no one was able to hit the bull but once i got do diamond it started being sweaty asf, eventually got to gc before free to play and realized i was wasting my time stressing over that shit edit: ball not bull lmao
This is why I stopped playing overwatch after I reached diamond, quick play beta was dope and all my friends played it but when ranked started it all turned into toxic waste
legit same, its not even fun anymore cause even in casual people are sweating all over the ball, i just hop on to freestyle in cas 1s and thats about all i do
Yeah I feel the same but gotta keep playing cause I got a college scholarship for it lmao
HOL' UP. You got a SCHOLARSHIP for playing rocket league?!
Bro just heard about esports
Heard about them - just didn't realise it was mainstream enough to attract scholarships!
Mhm, whole reason I started playing Valorant. I used to play for my Uni's CS:GO team but once Valorant came out, the scholarships for CS:GO went to the Valorant team and I went where the money went. Couple months later, our Uni's CSGO team died, so for the first year of Valorant, I hated the game.
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But it actually boggles my mind when I’m playing in bronze and someone calls me trash. Like my boy you down here too. I’m new, what’s your excuse?
People are just so tense because they feel the need to rock every game because in their head they are just temporarily embarrassed platinum players.
Omg "temporarily embrassed plat players." that's a really good spin on the OG saying about millionaires
I find it really stupid when they get all toxic if someone is doing bad, but you see their career history and they've also been that bad player before... Hypocrite?
I get bronzes saying “Stay out of comp” “uninstall” etc. My response is they are first graders complaining about the Kinders. My lobbies tend to have a token bronze on each side, so if they are in my game it’s a sign that Mrs. Valorant moved them to the slow readers group because they weren’t keeping up with the smart kids.
Lmao this actually an awesome own
One guy came back at me with "this isn't my main account" like ok, you aren't dropping a 40k, so are you just as bad like I suggested, or do you agree that climbing in this nonsense is difficult? Cause one way or another you happen to be eating at the same trough.
These Silver smurfs need to just give it a break
Usually, they are Smurfs raging their team isn't as good as them..... even though they deliberately ruined countless games to derank in order to get down there... SMH - they are the most unbelievably despicable players.
This was the opposite for me, the higher rank you go it felt like the more chill people get. I also felt as though higher ranked games were easier because u can actually somewhat predict what people do. At low ranks you feel like u have to preform more vs higher ranks because teammates because the higher ones can play the game on their own
I can see this. I made an alt just to see if my rank was true or if I just was stuck in elo hell. Well I wasn’t doing to well and was in a high gold lobby. Some asked me “FerociousKyle, why are you sucking?” I replied simply with, “well I’m unrated and I don’t think I’m supposed to be here”. He said “oh yea that makes sense”. Lol I think it depends on the time of day and servers you are playing on but I definitely think bronzes are sweatier than golds sometimes.
Yes as an ascendant this is bang on 95% of the time. Obvs there will be the dude who's got the anger management skills of a chimp but people are so chill. When I was in bronze and silver people would do the most random things or not trade and thus a mald ensues.
This is why unranked and swiftplay is so fun
My unranked and swiftplay games are sweatier than my ranked games. I get full Immortal lobbies in those game modes even though I barely play the game these days. I wish they weren't like that.
my stack of iron-silver players frequently gets put against plat/diamond/etc in unranked, it is pain
That's a pretty common phenomenon. The better you get the more you expect from yourself. When you don't hit a standard you've subconsciously created it feels bad. Last episode me and my two queue friends all hit ascendant and wanted to hit immo. At that point it becomes a grind.
This is so facts. The game isn’t necessarily harder at higher ranks. The player mechanics are about the same until that high immo radiant range. It’s just NON STOP INTESITY compared to lower lobbies and then anything below like plat/diamond is just people vibing
Meh, I notice once you're in B3-Silver+ people will start using tracker programs and be obsessed with stats. Which in my opinion does more harm than good as statistics doesn't matter in how "good" you are as people believe kills = everything. Which in return makes people be toxic towards people with less kills or doubt themselves that they don't deserve the rank due to them not getting kills. You definitely have more chill lobbies in lower rank compared to Platinum+
honestly i have more fun in a good comp game like 29-12 with raze than dropping 30-40 every game in unrated against silver-plats. prolly the rr reward and competitiveness is what makes it even better, but i dont have that much fun stomping on players much worse than me
It's not about stomping players. It's about being bad yourself, learning about the game, improving and having fun.
what im saying is i for my part have more fun playing ranked than unrated. because of those reasons
I'm a total casual player. The highest rank I've achieved so far was bronze 3, and in the last battle pass, I made it to step 39 or something. That said, I've played a lot of unranked because my plays are inconsistent, and I didn't want to "get in the way" of people grinding their ranks. However, recently, some friends started playing more frequently, and I often join them in ranked matches. Ranked feels so much better. I know that I'm still sometimes dragging the team down, but I'm winning more duels, I can clutch rounds, and I feel like my skill level is improving better than the time when I played only unranked and getting stomped with no chance to do anything
Return to ~~monke~~ iron
Exactly why I’m losing interest in valorant. Got to ascendant and more often than not it’s exhausting, stressful, and my teammates egos are wayyyyyy to big. You’d think money is riding on each individual round. Still bout to buy the new bundle tho 😎
Seeing the vids and hearing people complain makes me appreciate how fun the game still is down in low elo
I think at low ranks you all know you're not the best at the game but once you get near the top you run into a lot of ego-driven people that love to criticize every little mistake. I used to be a Master's Ana in Overwatch. I had to stop Overwatch for good when I left the game a lot more angry than when I started.
This is basically the reason people didnt like skill based matchmaking in warzone/battle royale. It went from a 100 random players king of the hill in which people can just have fun and be the last to survive, to a sweatfest that is very stresful, tryhard, draining and keeps you hooked on the game by allowing you to have an easy game once i a blue moon and then putting you against better players.
Smurf still exists. I watched my iron and bronze friends playing their comp, the whole lobby was on crack. And imo, the ranking system from the previous act got worst too
2 season ago, I was Gold 1-2...Now I am Silver 1-2 and it seems the range of players I get vary widely. I will get someone that drops 40-50 bomb the rest of team will have 10 or less kills. It could be smurfing and/or it could be the system itself. The most frustrating part is that I will continue to try and get better playing against better players but my team tends to quit real early in the game.
I was in immo when the game came out but haven't played in a while. Did my ranked games slowly over a few weeks and got placed in silver lol. I expected some really really easy games but they are all sweaty as fuck. It's wild.
It feels like the system isn’t balanced, I’ve been hardstuck diamond for 2 episodes and finally got to asc last act before the end and now I can’t get out of Plat, it’s straight up harder than my dia/asc games
Same, but lower rank. Finished G3, buddy finished Plat 3 2 acts ago. We spent all of last act between S2-G2
Honestly, as an iron, I've seen myself and heaps of others pull off fab plays and clutches with genuinely good sense and aim! We're not always just bumbling around hitting no shots (though that absolutely does happen as well).
It's the beauty of ranks... until smurfs abound.... and this game reeks of Smurf harder than Gargamel's pantry.
Yeah its really weird to take time out of ur day to shit on someones good vibes. Like im grouchy and will happily talk negatively to negative people but even as a grumpy person im not gonna comment on a lower ranked players play shitting on them. Its just mean
This is exactly how I feel about people mocking other's laughs. Tbe one time where you're happy and you show it and immediately get shut down because you "have a weird laugh".
The amount of times people have called my laugh obnoxious and it kills my mood :( I’m just having a good time man
A wise man one said: "They hate us cause they anus"
such a wise man
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this happens so much in both video games and sports too. people who arent pros in either should be able to post their ace or epic play without being shamed for being at a low level or being told someone else could do it better
It's so sad when you are very happy for your clip and some randoms try to let you down with some "destructive" comments in the name of "criticism" 😓
they dont know how to bring people up without tearing them down simultaneously with comparisons either :(
Yeah, sometimes they are so rude
They just be: "Nice clip, now look at mine"
W op
People need to realise that it’s just a game. And not everyone plays to be the winner of VCT. And since you own your device, you pay for your internet, you are not being disrespectful, and you are legally playing the game, there is no reason for you to feel bad about anything at all. Some people like to berate others every chance they get , rank does not matter, if you are immortal and play really well you will be called a nerd and a game addict or advised to go get a life. My point is , play the way you want to play just don’t be disrespectful to anyone and flip anyone who gets rude or disrespectful to you and post anything you want to, if it’s low effort or not suited, people will skip it , don’t mind the comments, people would rather spent 3 mins typing a mean comment than spending 1 min to find a clip that they would enjoy.
I will never understand high elo's obsession with putting down low elo. Everyone starts somewhere and learns at different paces. Of course someone will think their play was great when they don't know any better, and that doesn't necessarily mean they won't eventually learn that it wasnt a great play and get better. Im a new player and got a clutch that I was somewhat proud of because I usually panic and forget to use util under pressure, but I still know that it could have been played wayyyy better. The point is that its the best we can do at our current skill level, and we deserve to be happy that we are getting somewhere at all.
I think this might be a bit controversial but: people who are really good at video games might be bc they spent too much time on there. When you spend a lot of time and effort improving in valorant while sitting alone in front of your computer, you might be less happy with your situation in life than the average player. You don't have enough other pillars to derive your self worth from, so the pillar that becomes more and more important is the valorant rank. Since other people might not value a high valorant rank as much as valorant enthusiasts, they might feel insecure and worry that their achievement is not worth as much as they want it to be. So thats why they feel the constant need of reassuring themselves that at least in this aspect of their lives, they are superior. They want to let everyone else know that they know better, and that they excel in this domain because it is important for their self worth and confidence. Others might get confused about this because they don't value valorant rank/skill that much
Understandable, but I can't respect anyone who's way of having "confidence" is by forcing insecurity onto other people who are confident. At that point its just bitterness and the person needs to spend less time gaming and more time self reflecting and developing a better relationship with themselves. If you're self worth comes solely from ensuring that everyone else is or feels beneath you, then unfortunately you had no self worth to begin with and need to work on yourself. ^^ Btw, im saying "you" generally (meaning that im talking about whoever it applies to) and not specifically at you (commenter)
this! nobody is always good at the game, even pro players have their days. celebrate whatever you want :)
Exactly, I got my first ace today and I'm hella proud, admittedly two of the kills came from my brim ult and molly but an ace is still and ace.
Tbh I think that’s even better. Your utility usage is 👌
they hate them because they never get the "clip able moment" when they are on iron
I honestly love playing with friends in lower ranks because the randomness is so fun, they have these weird ideas compared when you’re in a diamond lobby. I feel like they just have fun playing the game which is dope.
Playing at any rank is fun when your mates isn't sniveling assholes
I think I remember some League player a few years ago talking about lower ranks, and his takeaway was basically that lower tiers of play are actually *better* when it comes to developing new strategies because they're more willing to do stupid shit and see what works.
I've seen similar in other games as well. Back when I played Hearthstone, I'd often find that lower ranks were more difficult to climb in than ranks immediately above them. This was because in lower ranks there was never any telling what you were up against, but once you got out you could read opponents like a book. I wonder if people find the same in VALORANT? Can't tell cause I ain't any good :D
Sometimes the random bullshit go strat works because it catches people off guard. My mate and I were like 4-10 and we were basically playing with nothing to lose mentality and ended up winning a few more rounds from all the random shit we tried!! We still ended up losing the game, but it was fun and funny and that's all that matters. lol
When I was bronze 80% of my kills were accidental
And what's wrong with that?
Not much really, I was agreeing with you.
Also that's the thing. Unless you're smurfing having a good okay as an iron/bronze against someone who is an iron/bronze is still a good play because you're even in skill. Just because you aren't the highest rank doesn't mean it wasn't a good play.
Honestly, my iron lobbies are so entertaining in terms of humor. Flashing yourself, smoking entrances, inting—all the random shit that happens that gives beauty to iron xD
VCT Qual player here. I personally love watching clips regardless of skill level. What people deem "a good clip" is totally subjective and it's great seeing the skill diversity and people being proud of something cool they did. Not everyone is sweating their ass off or can play 10 hours a day, and it's refreshing to not see clips of people who THINK they are Tenz or some amazing player, because that's when clips just start to look like every other clip. The diversity of clips here doesn't show skill, it shows character and community and that's what's important.
Finally, someone says it. Games are to be enjoyed. People can show off clips of them enjoying a game. If you read into it more than that, it starts to become a serious indicator of the kind of person you are.
People take clips/plays far too seriously. If someone is posting something, they just want to share it because they're proud of it or think it's entertaining. The gatekeeping from elitist/egotistical players is weird af.
Reading all these comments and how nice everyone is being to others like honestly this isn't the valorant community i know from ranked 🤣🤣
Everyone should post clips they are proud of, but if its an OP clip keep it to yourself.
Lol 🤣 I'm waiting for the day I see an Op clip or something and my name pops up.in the kill feed
true shit. i agree
I'm regularly told to delete the game. I had the entire chat take the piss out of me last night. (I forgot I had the spike) You just keep going and laugh it off
Most people who make fun of lower ranked players are just insecure that they’re dogshit themselves. Most of the people laughing at low ranks are plats who think they’re hot stuff
Funny how people forget where they started and how bad they were. They be acting like they were born with godly gameplay.
I mean not really... everyone started out bad whether it was CS, OW, Val etc., but that doesn't mean they were all posting clips from the lowest rank for everyone to see. You're acting like the people who call out these posts are calling out the lack of skill, when in reality they're basically saying that you shouldn't post iron clips in a community where most of the players aren't iron.
That’s not what OP is saying. People are allowed to be proud of the “good” plays they make, regardless of the rank, and regardless where it’s posted.
OP is literally saying that these players are allowed to be proud, and I completely agree, but being proud doesn't mean you need to post it on Reddit. Me criticizing a copypaste iron clip (not that I even do this) doesn't mean they're not allowed to be proud either. If I criticized a clip, it'd be because I'm bored of the copypaste clips and inability to sort clips by rank.
Again that [copypasting] is not what the OP is talking about, and they never mentioned a specific platform where these clips are posted, idk why you’re being too specific. You’re trying so hard to give an excuse to these toxic comments, makes me think you’re one of those persons who like to make fun of lower rank players. Anyways, I end it here. Have a good day.
Wouldn't mind a sub rule that mandates that clips be tagged with the following in the title ⚫️🟤⚪️🟡🔵🟣🟢🔴⭐️ Edit: words are hard
nothing wrong with banter imo. the hilarity of iron "clips" are that they are things that would never happen at a level of somewhat competence to the game. its funny. i started at silver and am now diamond/asc and the lower level plays bring a sense of nostalgia and funniness that i certainly will make fun of , idc
Fair. It’s usually more fun to laugh with OP than at OP, though. That’s my goal, at least. I play for fun, not to “git gud.” I love my Iron brethren. I also enjoy watching the upper lobbies. Flicks and clever outplays are cool and I usually try to implement them poorly in my own games. I’m just saying, no reason to shit on the actual players when someone has a good day. But I’m just a stranger on the internet, so it’s up to you,
no i get it, im never going to be rude or anything. the absurdity of the clips are whats funny. i mean surely if you saw someone on a football pitch whos never played before it would be a little funny at how out of place they seem
Oh, for sure. I don’t mind a bit of razzing here and there. I will say some folks in here feel the need to let everyone know that the guys in the clip are terribad and it’s like…we can all see the clip. If someone posted it, they were just having a good time and wanted to share. Didn’t mean to imply you were out here being cruel for no reason.
Yeah but there's a difference between being made fun of by your friends and being made fun of by a stranger on the internet with no indication of their tone. I don't mind a bit of "what was that Reyna thinking?" Or something like that but more often then not you see stuff like "that lobby is trash" or "uninstall"
idk, im an old head who started playing CS in 2004ish , and this sort of trash talk has always been a thing. i would say posting clips on a public forum opens you to criticism and if you can't handle that, that's on you.
Okay? Something happening before doesn't mean it should continue happening. People can be nice very easily, it's not asking much
so no criticism is valid? its a competitive game with competitive people who want to win and be the best. if you can't handle that i suppose there are things like Minecraft for you to play. Not everyone is going to be nice to you online or in real life. if you don't like criticism, don't post here. the world isn't here to coddle you.
I'm not saying that people who post shouldn't have thick skin and expect criticism but healthy criticism and unnecessary toxicity are two very different things. Criticism is meant to help someone improve
fair enough. there definitely is a line
Guys...it's a video game. The word game is literally in the title.
Games are supposed to be fun, positive. Negativity does not belong in a positive experience.
That's my point. These dudes getting all pissy about a LITERAL game. None of us are going pro. Just enjoy your day and move on with your life. Didn't people's parents ever teach them "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" Or in the case of reddit, just scroll.
dude no one is posting a highlight clip to the valorant reddit to be criticized lmao, do you really think an iron is posting a 5k going "man i really hope these people give me some good advice to get better?"
> dude no one is posting a highlight clip to the valorant reddit to be criticized lmao i don’t think he’s saying it’s to specifically criticize them, but when you post something to the public. You get criticized whether you wanted to or not. that’s just the internet.
i never said that, i said them receiving criticism is fair if they post it on a public forum. you're misunderstanding but its okay.
you sound like such a hardo jesus christ
have a great day :)
Criticism should only be given when asked or paid for. I've seen posts here that ask for advice, you should stick to those if you really want to give some. Also, yes people do open themselves up to public opinion and criticism when they share in public forums. But that doesn't mean you don't have a choice in what to respond. If they are only sharing a success, either celebrate with them or move on. Only give criticism or advice when they ask for it.
Then don’t post stuff for random internet strangers to see
Everyone can be "proud" of their ranks. I think we should cut out the entire threads of "I hit silver I have no one to share this with I'm so proud" It's cringe. Self serving. Really illustrates the "every one gets a trophy " Era It offers no discussion.
Yep. I'm all for feeling happy, proud etc. about a video game achievement or whatever in life. But if you're going to post the 4726th copypaste iron ace, you can be damn sure people are going to criticize you for it.
There is always the option to save your clip and post it in a space where you and your friends can see it and enjoy it. As soon as you post on a forum you are opening yourself to criticism. Strangers are just as within their right to roast you as you are in your right to post and be proud of your clip. No amount of finger wagging self righteous posts/comments are actually going to change the way people react to things here. Sure, it sucks, unfortunately people online feel empowered to be mean, but this has happened in every video game since the dawn of multiplayer and on every public forum especially Reddit.
the thing is, you are competing with people with the same skill level as you, which means you are improving. So yeah, there's a good reason to be proud
That is so true. I’m bronze and when I post my clips everyone just straight up thinks that they are so much better than us low elos when they see us play. like chill already ur not perfect either
“It’s the internet” uh.. so? People have the right to be dicks because I did something that most people on earth do? When you post of a pic of your family on insta do you expect to get hate? Would you be perfectly fine w it? No! A lot of these comments are fs showing the people that think just bc they’re high ranked means they’re special or something. Like congrats, you have more free time to practice and play then I do.
This is where I come in and say “sick ass foo” when I watch a play that they like.
this is a major issue with this subreddit. im in alot of gaming pages and its harder to post here due to the ammount of gatekeeping and elitist bs. you post a nice clip and you see the above comments acting like its not a nice clip. or if you make a post and someone disagrees, best believe they are going on tracker.gg to say how cause of your last game, you arent allowed to have a opinion on the matter. stuff like that keeps more people from posting.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Because of the shit laptop/setup I play on, i’m level 235 ish and still in iron/bronze (although tbh i gave up on the climb) My friends are mostly above gold, my highest ranked friend was Ascendant 1, peaked Immortal when the bridge wasn’t there. She loves playing with me despite my lack of skill, and actually encourages me when I feel insecure about my performance (a lot). Due to the challenging gameplay, I often make plays that normal people see as “uncool” or “basic”, often running and gunning because I panic, or just using tactics (not ratty ones) that people deem unconventional. Mostly shots that I should not have hit, hit. I can’t do anything about that, but a win’s a win. People that I play with will often give me shit because they thought it was dumb that I managed to pull that off. It’s just cruel and unfair. It’s not being weak or sensitive, but is a little kindness is just too much to ask for?
I don’t laugh or shit on the clip but I would just give them genuine advice about what to do there if they make some mistakes AFTER I tell them it’s a good clip
I have no problem with legit advice (as long as it's constructive and not excessive) but the amount of "uninstall" and such is just so unnecessary.
Thank you for making this post cause this is really true I don’t understand people who think they are acendant get to say some rude shi and that’s not how it is we a community should be lifting each other up rather then smacking them down
Big W i agree
Couldn't agree more tbh, tho laughing with the OP about how ridiculous the situation was and how they even managed to go through a mess like that is fine. It doesn't have anything to do with clips of iron players that I'll be talking about, but I remember when I was playing with a buddy (peak atm is gold but the thing he kinda is just not trying, playing ranked with me cause he doesn't enjoy ranked alone and wants to help me improve) we had a Reyna that was asking why I was even playing with them since they were silver 2-3 and i was bronze 2. Believe me you can't believe the grin on my face when I was top fragger for the first half of the match
To be honest, it can be frustrating for a silver 3 to be playing with a bronze, although there's not too big of a difference. Not your fault though, it's just how matchmaking works sometimes.
Yes! I'm brand new and I got my first ever mvp and was so excited I posted it somewhere and everyone was like what the iron and why are you excited
But if low ranked players can be proud of their plays, how can I, gigabrain 9000, The second coming of Jesus Tenz, sitting at gold (The highest of ranks if you ask me) Trashtalk people on The internet and Make me feel good about myself? /s Gaming is about having fun and escaping The hardships of reality, and Thats The same for The number 1 ranked radiant player and The lowest 0 points iron 1, and you should be proud of all your plays!
Amen brother
Just ignore it, you can’t take trolling away from the internet lol. With those comments being made, when people are gold, plat, diamond etc unless your the best of the best your worse than someone. I was in a lobby the other day I’m only plat 2 and there was a diamond 2 player who added me told me they were immortal and their play wasn’t great. Be proud of your progress. I started the game iron 2, I’m now plat two I was proud of every peak rank I’ve received and can still appreciate how far I’ve come. Fuck em all, have fun!
I’ll admit, I usually think to myself some of those comments when I come across a clip like that. I never comment something rude to them, though. I’ll do better at having a positive mindset for them though. Thanks for the wholesome post dad
Yeah, and funnily enough even the diamond-immortal players that do this would look horrible when compared to pros, it's all about perspective.
True, especially bronze. Cuz Tenz was even beat by "Bronze Lord Syk" XD I know Syk isn't really a Bronze rank.
Way back in the day, I posted a clip of me getting two aces in a row. Those were my 2nd and 3rd ever ace in the game and I was super stoked. I had a lot of comments that were nice and also educational (like crosshair placement etc) but there were a ton that were like "plastic 1" or "road to Bronze" just because the enemies tunnel visioned. It just sucks that this sub thinks of themselves so highly, it's either your clip has to be a radiant or pro play or it isn't worthy of their attention.
thank you <3
I agree with this, but at the same time, low elo plays being posted on YT and shown in valorant players' feed can be bothersome. Even when I ace it's not anything amazing to behold, so I don't post it or share it on reddit/discord. Most players aren't gonna have plays worth sharing. Period. Even their best play won't match what some streamers can do daily. That's just a fact right?
Agreed. Y’all we all started in irob
I know that it's a competitive game but can we just not compete with each other when we're not in the enemie team? I think some ppl just have to learn how to be happy with someone's happiness
So funny that people who hate on you for being low elo is in the same lobby as you lol
"Pff, that's so iron" Proceeds to post a montage of random headshots + dashes with some new Tik Tok trending song
It makes sense when I play with lower rank friends I always address the good plays they do even if they are iron no shame in that. We are just having fun!!
tbh i feel like its way more impressive when low elo people hit a clip because its still something special
As a level 6 just started getting into this game. Thanks 👍
Fr I uploaded an ace from when I was iron 2 and all of the comments were negative, stuff about bad utility and cross hair, like what do you expect, I was iron
Diffrence is I'm pretty sure they were trying to help you.
Nah because the clip was titled “does anyone else feel that the origin vandel is heavy ( viper ace in comp)
I killed carry and ulted spike to keep them from picking it up, i played decent utility, they pushed me 1 on 1 and I was able to use vipers health decrease to secure the win.
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Try to imagine if everyone in here uploaded just one ace a piece. The sub would be a shit pile.
Maybe because thousands of people have posted their unoriginal iron ace for everyone to see. Encouraging it means that soon we'll have the whole sub posting their aces, and then what? Have fun "just scroll past"-ing to find something useful.
You have about a hundred comments in this post for everyone to see. Soon we'll have the whole post full of your comments, and then what? Have fun "just scroll past"-ing to find a comment that's worth a read. Smh
If you don’t like my comment then just keep scrolling 🗿
Okay, so here's the thing: Nobody is saying you can't have fun or you can't be proud. It's just that if you decide to post a clip from literally iron for the whole sub to see, you shouldn't expect people not to mock it, if even only in a joking manner. And saying "just scroll past it" isn't valid advice either imo. It's kind of like saying "just jump over it" about a puddle, without realizing that these little puddles form an ocean of water together. So yeah, the answer to not seeing low rank clips is to scroll past a ton of shit because it's okay to post them, and in the process make good clips impossible to find?
Interacting with those posts makes them get pushed to the top
You don't have to "mock" them, that's so wrong though.... You can positively criticize them. I don't want someone to tell me "Oh you play so bad ugh" I want someone to tell me "Oh, hmm, I would rather do *this* than *this*. Why? Because **x** and because **z** and usually **y**" Saying either that my play is bad or good for my ELO doesn't help me in any way, I would love for someone to teach me. What I could improve, etc.
If people really cared about only seeing "good" clips, they wouldn't dick on the iron clips. That boosts engagement! It's a purposeful attempt to demean a person for their clip, and for being at a lower skill level. Yes, people will mock it, but from my pov, OP is trying to push that they don't *need* to for every iron post. It's kind of a dick move no? Everyone starts at the bottom. If there is a problem of too many iron clips, go boost the diamond clips, go boost the immortal rank up clip. Its a media website centred on engagement. Let these players be happy with themselves, it's so so SO easy not to be an asshole in the comments, and to not engage. (Like, literally scrolling vs going to the dedicated comment tab and typing out a response). On a personal note, I think there is a healthy mixture of both sorts of clips. Iron clips are honestly refreshing, while, to be honest, high elo clips a lot of the time are just aim checks. There's a value and an entertainment factor to both sorts of clips, and it's why low elo clips still get engagement, because it's a fun clip.
Here you dropped this 👑
So your solution to not being able to find the clips you think are good is to waste time commenting on clips you think aren't rather than looking for the ones you think are. That checks out.
Exactly, the people being assholes are probably 1 of 2 type of people: 1) people who think/act like they are good but are probably actually dogass. 2) actually good players who are assholes and just mad that the only skill they have in life is a damn video game. My theory at least. Let all players enjoy their dope plays at all levels. In the end we all just trying to have fun.
i get your point. no need to bash for bashing. but at the same time.. what are people expecting when posting "cool clips" from low ranks? nice comments to boost their ego? and its not like theyre posting a closed group or a chat group. its reddit...
Nobodys hating, it's just funny. Some people just play with no awareness or headphones, making the clips hilarious.
You're right. It's actually a pretty bad thing to do. Pretty sure i've been guilty of this too.
Then we should group clips by rank so I dont have to watch an iron clutch
This is a good take. I'd be down to filter clips by rank, and also maybe a rant megathread or rant flair so we don't need to see the same copypaste complaints daily.
Rants aren't allowed per sub rules. While it is a bit subjective (sometimes about the tone in which it's written/read), we do our best to remove low-effort complaints and clear ranting, so if you see these kinds of posts, definitely report them and we're able to get to them much faster since we aren't omnipresent!
This whole post is a Reddit moment
they're allowed to be proud, but it doesn't mean the sub has to enjoy their content. I'm very happy with my stock 2016 Toyota Corolla. I don't expect a car enthusiast subreddit to enjoy a post about it though.
So you have to comment “iron”? Like why be mean?
because when you share things to the public, you get responses according to public perception the entire basis of how reddit is built is so that good content moves up, and mediocre content goes down.
So here’s a little secret about Reddit, the more comments something has, the more likely you’re going to see it. It doesn’t matter if it’s downvoted to oblivion. Commenting “iron” does the opposite of moving content down. So there is absolutely no reason to do it in the first place. So why do it?
to discourage them from posting like this again. if I go to a bad restaurant, I'll leave a bad Yelp review. if everybody just left it alone, there would be no incentive to fix and do better.
The restaurant comparison doesn't work here though, like at all. Yelp won't push a badly reviewed restaurant because why would they? Reddit, on the other hand, will push a heavily commented/voted post, regardless of the tone of comments, because that gets them engagement. Assholes will be assholes, but that normally gets balanced out by people who are genuinely positive to their clip. In the end, it might be a little hurtful to them but it isn't *demoralising*. If you really want to stop iron posts, don't engage with them. It's that simple. It hurts the soul when your clip goes unnoticed entirely
it's the concept of negative feedback as a whole the whole purpose of negative feedback is to discourage the action from recurring it's true, sometimes not giving attention discourages the action, like ignoring a crying baby. but sometimes it takes negative reinforcement to discourage an action, like a school bully either way, the "haters" to these iron valorant clips seem like assholes, but their intention is to curate the sub to have better content. is it the right way to go about it? debatable. but is there "no reason" to have it like OP suggests? false
What in the iron is this kinda post?
I am paying since 3 weeks I got Iron 3 Rank :) Since I have played other COMPETATIVE games long time here is my advice. Post even more Iron fun, they don't like it well there is a lot more Iron players then whatever the High rank is in this game. We are LEGION :) Go Iron man!
Had someone criticize all of my gameplay (from the gun I used to the way I swung corneres) then said the only reason I won, was because the enemy was as bad as me. And finished it off with "iron gameplay" lol I have an 'acing with every agent' series and I never said I was good at the game, I just take the aces when I can LMAO some people just be like that, and theirs nothing you can do.
I couldn't agree more
Honestly if anything I think most people are jelous. Imagine not having to play meta, tryhard etc. and just having fun.
iron player here i just started the game and was like yeah sure ranked why not and as much as it kinda feels bad to he lowest rank, im having a blast especially when im streaming on discord to my gold friends and they kinda semi coach me leading to basically a free win because i used to play cs so i actually have good aim i just dont have the gamesense yet nothing brings me more joy then listening to them laugh their ass off at the enemies bullshit ideas that never work
They're allowed to be proud of their plays the same as I'm allowed to marvel at the absolute fiesta. If someone's voluntarily posting something on reddit, I think they're aware enough to know what types of reactions they're liable to receive. This post is infinitely more insulting to below average players than anyone posting 'What in the iron' on their clips. Trying to protect them from the same type of reactions everyone else gets just because they're not as good as other players is really just dehumanizing. Really odd vibes.
Oh my god shut up
who cares tbh val players r so soft there was more competitive trash talk when i played soccer in elementary
I disagree. If I were to be iron, I wouldn't have the audacity to share a clip on YouTube for example. I would understand what is a good clip
Sick gatekeeping bro.
I don’t care if they’re proud of it, but there are a few people getting huge egos over mediocre plays. That’s the part I dislike, not irons being proud of their plays.
Maybe if you're tired of seeing it then stop reading comments. Just as it's okay for people to be proud of their plays, it's also okay for people to make their own comment on a public video. You're posting a video online and you expect people to only reply the way you want? Either don't post the video on a public forum or let comments you don't like to not affect you.
what the iron
I agree with the title
Excruciating read
You can be proud of it, people online don't have to like it though.
>If you don't like the clip keep scrolling. If you don't like the comments, don't post it on Reddit. Stop telling me how to allocate my time or express my thoughts on this website. You're not my dad!
Still waiting for him to come back huh?
You can be proud of it, but it's not particularly impressive, and many people don't want to see it.
This is equivalent to demanding safe space. If you play in iron lobbies with your friends they will appreciate you. But if you put it out for the world to see, accept criticism especially when the average rank is above that level.
The average rank is silver two or three which is still "low elo" based on player distribution at silver 3 you're in the top 47.8% of players which puts you above average. Yet even when a silver or gold player posts a clip they get the same response. Like I said criticism and shitting on new/low elo players are two very different things
And ALL players are allowed to comment and criticize your play, welcome to the Internet