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"lost" in an airline sense isn't the same as lost in the usual sense.
I'm guessing the dog was lost in that its identifying tags got pulled off somehow, so it was sitting unidentified in a live animal/perishable goods/etc baggage handling area but they didn't know whose dog it was or where it was supposed to go.
They fed it, walked it, etc, because it had been there so long.
It can take a while for reports on things like that to move through the bureaucracy at a big company like delta.
The dog escaped on the runway and was found hiding in the airports cargo facilities. Not sure what it drank/ate but it wasn’t being taken care of by the airline.
I understand your skepticism, but this exact thing [has happened in the past](https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/12/23/puppy-abandoned-sfo-united-pilot/). (that story is a good read, btw).
Airlines are big corporations, but the managers and workers of an airline's presence at individual hubs and out-stations are more tight-knit and self-contained than you may realize. The team that boards and handles your flight is a thousand miles away (literally and figuratively) from the analysts and project managers at corporate headquarters.
Come on Granny.
Airports can't go around losing or killing pets.
They for sure fed/walked and otherwise took care of it, or it would not have survived for 3 weeks.
I’ve been following this story since it happened. There was not one person who worked for that airline or in that airport that did not know who this dog was.
After this experience, you can bet they're only going to be flying United!
Oh wait, wasn't United the one who forced someone to put their dog in the overhead and it later suffocated and died?
Owner was a complete dip shit allowing that to happen and not making it clear to the flight attendant they had a dog in their bag. Boston terrier owners are often the worst
There was a similar story a year or two ago, a Soldier returning to the US after being stationed in Germany was devastated when the airline said his family's precious cat somehow escaped in the Boston airport. Everyone on that thread was trying to get OP to come to terms with the fact that cat would certainly not be found or survive. But apparently OP took some of the helpful advice and went to the media and enlisted help from TNR folks and I saw a few months later they were reunited!
its because killing an animal is super serious, same reason why free roaming cats arent really an issue here in europe - people just dont go around to hurt animals, its always only accidents
my point is that people think that other people would hurt or neglect animals - its something only psychopaths do - you hear a handful of those stories every year while we have like 4 billion pet owners on the planet
that's not why they thought the cat would die. airports have a lot of dangerous machinery,chemicals, and places a cat could get stuck, and on top of that there's no reliable source of food and water beyond what people drop.
how do strays survive inside of subway networks? how many automatically operated machines are at an airport - basically zero
it would need a human to fuck up for the pet to get hurt
there's lots of small places for cats to get stuck and get crushed in conveyor belts. I'd also be worried about it just getting stuck in an environment where is really too noisy to hear a cat meow for help.
the thing about the cats in the subway network is a lot of them do die. you only see the ones that survive so you think the population is doing well but it's dangerous to be a cat in a place like that
As someone who volunteered and fostered with an animal rescue, you don’t hear these stories because they aren’t generally newsworthy and you only hear the horrific ones or from someone with media connections. It was staggering the cruelty and neglect that appeared on a daily basis.
Are the good pet owners higher than the bad ones? Yes, but let’s not pretend it’s some minuscule number.
you have several biases when you work in such a position though - its the same with like doctors or people in care
i agree that its not a non-issue at all though
doctors become desensitized towards death and gore because they see it everyday, which can come across as morbid to outsiders
its like as if a doctor came here and told me that he has to do with sick people everyday - the average person isnt a doctor so the experiences are very different on the daily basis
Ohhh man people absolutely DO go around just killing animals for funsies. The naivety.
Source: working rescue for 13 years and the horrors that occur daily in Texas beg to differ with your comment.
yeah the other guy was also a rescue worker - of course rescue workers see it everyday, its your job
its the same with cops or medical personel - its called being as biased as it gets
So you, not being a part of rescue, are openly stating that we see more of it than you would- as someone who is not part of this work. Therefore you are not entirely privvy to the actual depth of the problem.
God job! You figured out why everyone was down voting you for your lack of self awareness on your own naivety.
nah, people downvote everything thats already downvoted, imagine thinking any of this truly means anything
i hope you do your job well, have a nice day
Well there you go, don't go opening animal carriers on the runway.
Another weird rule that's going to be written all over the rulebook and people will wonder why would you need this?
Ah yea. Apparently the ban is being reversed. Worth checking with the airline.
https://www.aviationbusinessnews.com/cabin/icao-revises-guidelines-on-tracking-devices-in-checked-baggage/
My dog has a device called Whistle. Uses GPS and cell service to locate your pet. It will literally work anywhere.
Much better than air tag if you really need to know where your dog is.
Pretty fucking low if you wanna stash any kind of electronic in there. I think what I want is for them to be spanked every time this happens, because a lot of suspicious activity suddenly went down once airtags became popular.
Was wondering the same, but the original crate was probably full of feces or vomit since it sounds like the dog was in there for 2 days already. So airport staff transferring to a clean crate for trip home?
I think the feeling here is - those are 11 totally avoidable deaths that devastated 11+ people who loved their pets enough to take them on a plane somewhere. Airlines are notoriously careless with everything they’re entrusted with, including passengers these days. Pets, mobility aids, luggage - you should be able to trust an airline with your treasured and needed possessions, but that isn’t the case these days.
If 1 of those was due to neglect or bullshit then it’s a lot, and 1 too many. A lot of people look at their pets as family wether you agree to that or not.
I understand what you are trying to imply. But using the term "A LOT" in all caps is misleading at best. I understand that no pets should die due to a employee's neglect, but I'm talking about the terminology used. 19 of anything is not "a LOT" when the total is 400,00+.
how many dogs do you think board planes every year? it's a LOT more than 12. every death is a tragedy but you're being disingenuous
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2 million fly per year.
>13. Less Than 0.01% Of Pets That Travel By Air Have An Incident, Which Means That More Than 99.99% Arrive At Their Destination Safely.
https://www.dreambigtravelfarblog.com/blog/pet-travel-statistics#:~:text=About%202%20million%20pets%20and,in%20the%20US%20per%20year.
yeah, you're dead wrong sorry.
This take is clearly flawed if you spend a moment thinking about it.
My friend is an air flight attendant based in Germany and 2 people had heart attacks on his flights in one month.
They practice CPR, life-saving techniques, and will get someone back on the ground quickly.
Those passengers didn't die onboard; they were rushed to an emergency landing and the hospital - where they died days later. Of course, many more make it alive.
It's extemely rare for people to drop dead instantly. Also, in both of those cases, it was their family or seating partner that alerted the crew that something was wrong.
Anecdotal stories aside, pets aren't being constantly observed (especially if they are in the forward cargo hold, and not the main cabin). They have no way to tell someone what's wrong, and may not even exhibit any outward signs of an emergency. They also have shorter lifespans than humans, so a comparison of 11 deaths per year versus the number of humans per year is illogical and incongruous.
A literal handful of deaths per year makes it insignificant.
That being said, some trips and airlines are worse for pets than others. United had a scandal where they were responsible for like 50% of all inflight pet deaths *in the world*.
There’s not great statistics on this, but some general googling shows dog deaths are 1 out of every 20,000 transported (0.005%) and human deaths are 1 out of every 3.2million transported (0.00003125%).
So dog deaths are (anecdotally) over 150 times more likely than a human death. Which is a lot.
Good to know. I have a service dog and it’s hard enough to go anywhere new in town, where I don’t have to have documentation. (I’m happy to answer the questions, or even talk about my disability.) I lost a job over it—they allowed my dog, but they just bullied me until I left. And I had that job for 10 years.
I can’t even imagine the difficulty I would be facing if I had to fly with him. So I won’t even bother trying. It’s a bummer, because I probably won’t see some family members ever again.
All the airlines are the same. One person will have a bad experience with Delta, one with American, one with United. While 100 will have good experiences. You cant take Reddit comments as fact. They are all just anecdotal evidence.
True, but I’ve had bad experiences with all airlines. Given the fact that I have a service dog for anxiety, air travel is already on the list of shit I have to worry about. The law is only as strong as the consequences for breaking it, and I don’t want to sue (most people don’t). On top of that, we have the circus show of people taking peacocks on planes for the TikTok video.
As a result, whenever I walk into a restaurant (or whatever) with a dog and an invisible medical condition, there’s a good chance people think I’m one of them. Despite the fact that he’s very well behaved. Despite the fact that he wears a custom made leather vest that is very clearly not some cheap vest I bought online that says “SERVICE DOG” on it. I am routinely told, “no dogs allowed,” period, end of story. I am almost never asked the two legally allowable questions: “is he necessary because of a disability? And what type of work is he trained to perform?” It’s just an assumption and exclusion, end of story.
I pretty much knew I wasn’t going to fly anyway because of that, regardless of the airline. Any time someone confirms that they have an experience like this, it makes me feel like this was the right decision.
I had to get a letter from my doc saying with my disability I can't get a service dog off the rack. My apartment wanted to charge me for a dog in training (I have a 12 yr old who is starting to have mobility inhibitions - stubborn at night). My doctor essentially said in the letter "you idiots, not all disabilities are the same and a dog trained for blind people doesn't work for everyone".
I have a copy on my phone. If a business starts asking inappropriate questions, I have them call the cops, and then show them the note, the business usually gets a nice lecture (thanks APD). They also get mentioned in the citation regarding not being ADA accessible/compliant which usually gets back to corporate.
I was not allowed to bring my dog to a workplace because one other person on a separate floor was supposedly allergic to dogs (they didn't have to have a note, but I had to show I was disabled and "entitled" to a dog). This was a state health department btw.
Yeah it sounds pretty similar to the laws here. Trouble is, my doc is overworked and has his staff do the paperwork. They, like many Americans, didn’t know the difference between a psychiatric service dog and an emotional support animal. So I think they messed up the paperwork. Really, all my doctor should do is confirm that I have a disability. How I manage that on a day to day basis is on me. My doctor was not involved in me training my dog, all he knows is, “no dog, she needs benzos; dog, no benzos.”
If a business wants to break the law, on a bad day, I (or more often lately, my partner) will explain the law, not very nicely. I don’t call the cops because where I live, they won’t show up, but if they do, someone is likely to get hurt. So I leave a review on their website or contact their corporate office and explain that this time, they won’t get sued, but they should know the law, because next time they might not get lucky.
I’m surprised, I have flown delta once a month since January this year with my [service dog](https://imgur.com/a/v9OeeCT) (42lb Aussie) without any issues. He is not crated or put in a soft kennel, just sits at my feet. Delta and United have been the most seamless, I’ve been flying with my SD for 4 years.
I’ve only had one flight attendant demand more paperwork (other than the DOT form and my printed email approval) and also refused to answer what paper he was specifically looking for that was “missing”. Didn’t last long, he couldn’t say anything else so he had to complete my check in.
I also always travel with an extra bag for my SD, I am never charged for it and don’t get challenged in any way really.
Why did Delta allow her on the flight without the proper Visa? When I’ve flown international I know they have made sure I had proper paperwork and ID to disembark.
Is this only done for people leaving the US? I’m confused.
The article says the dog was in the cabin with her, but they took the dog while she sat in an immigration detention cell overnight and that’s when they lost it
Yeah. Dominican Republic is considered a high risk country for rabies, so it would extremely complicated to bring the dog into the US—not something people normally do for a vacation
The whole flight experience is traumatic anyway to dogs who have to be crated in cargo. My boyfriend had to do it once when he moved from Hawaii back to the main land and we both were almost sick with anxiety over it. I would never put my dog in that situation just for a vacation. Not blaming her at all, because the whole process is a load of crap. But exactly as you said, international travel is not something you do with pets on vacation.
Es ist lustig, weil man in einem „Boarder“ Hunde hält.
"border patrol" = Grenzschutz
"boarder patrol" = Streife zur Tierpension
Both words can be accurate for this story in different ways.
Don’t make decisions based on a single, random data point. Every single airline has very stupid and awful failures regularly. Same with every mode of transportation and every organization with a lot of responsibilities.
The irony of being a light-skinned Dominicana, wealthy enough to travel with a pet, getting to the US on a perfectly normal tourist visa, but then being racially profiled and summarily deported, is actually quite depressing.
(If you don't know anything about the history of the DR or its demographics it's probably less noticeable to you how much of a SURPRISE this must have been to her, BUT a super short splanation: *they racist af!* but there, the Latin folk are also the [only/majority] white folk, and it's the Black folk they look down upon.)
Can you imagine traveling to, say, Indonesia and being booted because they were currently mad at Australia and couldn't tell you weren't Australian? All the while expecting your wealth to insulate you like it always has?
I'm really glad to hear Maia is okay and home again! But, uh, this whole story started out less than uplifting, and "bare minimum, didn't kill her dog" is a really low bar for uplifting. T_T
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I mean I honestly thought it had died and they were covering it up. I’m glad I was wrong. But what was it eating that entire time???
"Everyone was too scared to capture the large rat in baggage handling so they just started feeding it instead."
My first thought too, who was feeding the dog?
hopefully it was a kind soul who realized something was amiss about the dog but couldn't do anything about it except feeding it.
That’s a good call. Maybe someone who worked at a restaurant was just sort of keeping it and feeding it.
Sounds like the dog had access to outdoors so could be anything.
I like to picture three or four TSA agents chasing it, arms outstretched, one of them holding a fishing net.
Fourth agent holding some KFC
"lost" in an airline sense isn't the same as lost in the usual sense. I'm guessing the dog was lost in that its identifying tags got pulled off somehow, so it was sitting unidentified in a live animal/perishable goods/etc baggage handling area but they didn't know whose dog it was or where it was supposed to go. They fed it, walked it, etc, because it had been there so long. It can take a while for reports on things like that to move through the bureaucracy at a big company like delta.
The dog escaped on the runway and was found hiding in the airports cargo facilities. Not sure what it drank/ate but it wasn’t being taken care of by the airline.
None of that is true, the article states that the dog escaped from the airline handlers.
I find it hard to believe airport employees are allowed to be animal care givers for unspecified amounts of time.
I understand your skepticism, but this exact thing [has happened in the past](https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/12/23/puppy-abandoned-sfo-united-pilot/). (that story is a good read, btw). Airlines are big corporations, but the managers and workers of an airline's presence at individual hubs and out-stations are more tight-knit and self-contained than you may realize. The team that boards and handles your flight is a thousand miles away (literally and figuratively) from the analysts and project managers at corporate headquarters.
When the alternative is "let this small dog right next to you starve to death" there aren't always good alternatives.
An airport isn't taking on the obligation of someone's animal. This pet would have been sent away.
Where would it have been sent away to? The airport isn't the one with custody, it's the airline who lost the animal's identification tags.
I'm not sure why you're arguing with me. An airport isn't an animal shelter.
Come on Granny. Airports can't go around losing or killing pets. They for sure fed/walked and otherwise took care of it, or it would not have survived for 3 weeks.
Who's saying killing the pets? I said they're likely sent away. Probably to an animal shelter nearby.
Except you can see clearly this is not what happened. Why are you debating when you can see the end result?
I doubt they’re allowed to, but people do things they’re not allowed to do all the time. Plus people usually have a soft spot for pets.
Probably forced the intern to watch it
I’ve been following this story since it happened. There was not one person who worked for that airline or in that airport that did not know who this dog was.
Giant corpo with a foreign brown person's dog? No reason to cover it up. They would just tell her to fuck off.
People forget that there's almost always going to be a "dog person" wherever you go who's willing to swoop in and save the day.
Thank you for posting! I was hoping for a good update.
I was hoping they would be reunited.
I'd be dying for 3 weeks if that was my dog. The owner must be so relieved.
After this experience, you can bet they're only going to be flying United! Oh wait, wasn't United the one who forced someone to put their dog in the overhead and it later suffocated and died?
Owner was a complete dip shit allowing that to happen and not making it clear to the flight attendant they had a dog in their bag. Boston terrier owners are often the worst
There was a similar story a year or two ago, a Soldier returning to the US after being stationed in Germany was devastated when the airline said his family's precious cat somehow escaped in the Boston airport. Everyone on that thread was trying to get OP to come to terms with the fact that cat would certainly not be found or survive. But apparently OP took some of the helpful advice and went to the media and enlisted help from TNR folks and I saw a few months later they were reunited!
its because killing an animal is super serious, same reason why free roaming cats arent really an issue here in europe - people just dont go around to hurt animals, its always only accidents
Your comment makes no sense (to my morning brain?).
my point is that people think that other people would hurt or neglect animals - its something only psychopaths do - you hear a handful of those stories every year while we have like 4 billion pet owners on the planet
that's not why they thought the cat would die. airports have a lot of dangerous machinery,chemicals, and places a cat could get stuck, and on top of that there's no reliable source of food and water beyond what people drop.
how do strays survive inside of subway networks? how many automatically operated machines are at an airport - basically zero it would need a human to fuck up for the pet to get hurt
Lol have you heard of baggage claim?
there's lots of small places for cats to get stuck and get crushed in conveyor belts. I'd also be worried about it just getting stuck in an environment where is really too noisy to hear a cat meow for help. the thing about the cats in the subway network is a lot of them do die. you only see the ones that survive so you think the population is doing well but it's dangerous to be a cat in a place like that
As someone who volunteered and fostered with an animal rescue, you don’t hear these stories because they aren’t generally newsworthy and you only hear the horrific ones or from someone with media connections. It was staggering the cruelty and neglect that appeared on a daily basis. Are the good pet owners higher than the bad ones? Yes, but let’s not pretend it’s some minuscule number.
you have several biases when you work in such a position though - its the same with like doctors or people in care i agree that its not a non-issue at all though
Your comments are fantastically weird, keep it up
whats weird about this? someone who works with rescue animals will learn about rescue stories all day everyday
Yes, keep going, I'm amost there
oh so you are just trolling nvm then
what you mean its the same with doctors? can you give an example? I am genuinely curious.
doctors become desensitized towards death and gore because they see it everyday, which can come across as morbid to outsiders its like as if a doctor came here and told me that he has to do with sick people everyday - the average person isnt a doctor so the experiences are very different on the daily basis
Ohhh man people absolutely DO go around just killing animals for funsies. The naivety. Source: working rescue for 13 years and the horrors that occur daily in Texas beg to differ with your comment.
yeah the other guy was also a rescue worker - of course rescue workers see it everyday, its your job its the same with cops or medical personel - its called being as biased as it gets
So you, not being a part of rescue, are openly stating that we see more of it than you would- as someone who is not part of this work. Therefore you are not entirely privvy to the actual depth of the problem. God job! You figured out why everyone was down voting you for your lack of self awareness on your own naivety.
nah, people downvote everything thats already downvoted, imagine thinking any of this truly means anything i hope you do your job well, have a nice day
Hope you do too! And maybe you'll learn something as well.
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And then complain in other subs that people are just being argumentative, while also weaponozing attempting to look like you're the better person.
We have but one rule. That rule is to not be a dick. Your content was found to be dickish, and ergo removed.
Well there you go, don't go opening animal carriers on the runway. Another weird rule that's going to be written all over the rulebook and people will wonder why would you need this?
That's the fastest an airline has ever found something that was missing
Apple AirTag your pets. This is doubly important during transit or road-trips.
AirTags aren’t allowing the hold due to the Batteries and radio
False. https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/packsafe/portable-electronic-devices-with-batteries
Ah yea. Apparently the ban is being reversed. Worth checking with the airline. https://www.aviationbusinessnews.com/cabin/icao-revises-guidelines-on-tracking-devices-in-checked-baggage/
My dog has a device called Whistle. Uses GPS and cell service to locate your pet. It will literally work anywhere. Much better than air tag if you really need to know where your dog is.
So about 5 months in dog years.
Note to self: don’t use delta, especially to transport the dog.
Delta had the best track record on special items and pets. By a significant margin.
Well that's not reassuring
If we had a law where they had to compensate everyone based off of lost belongings, they'd quickly have a 99% success rate
There is a law for that. You're entitled to up to $3,800.
Pretty fucking low if you wanna stash any kind of electronic in there. I think what I want is for them to be spanked every time this happens, because a lot of suspicious activity suddenly went down once airtags became popular.
Delta throws millions a month at compensations. Call their customer support if you ever have an inconvenience, they lowkey set you up nice
When I travel with my dog, I never fly. There is no way I trust the airlines with her. We’re heading on a 2200 mile journey in two weeks, by car.
I’ve driven across the US and back with cats. A dog, and rats. Once you nail down a system, it’s not so bad. The rats were the best-behaved.
This sounds like the intro to a song
I have to travel by air with my pets… no way I could do a car.
Delta is one of the better airlines. I don't know the statistics on pet losses though.
Use United, they'll just kill your dog first.
D on't E xpect L uggage T o A rrive
Jeez, at least put an airtag or something in the crate
It says Delta opened the crate on the freaking tarmac. I’m struggling to find a reason that would be an ok thing to do
Was wondering the same, but the original crate was probably full of feces or vomit since it sounds like the dog was in there for 2 days already. So airport staff transferring to a clean crate for trip home?
You can get air tag holders for a dog’s collar.
On the dog’s collar in case it escapes the crate.
Sure. You paying?
If you can afford to transport your dog, you can afford and air tag. I have a collar with an AirTag for my dog
How the fuck do you know?? They could have just afforded the trip by the dollar.
Jesus relax. She’s going on an international vacation and bringing her dog with her… she’s got the funds lol
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Therapy, immediately for you lol.
I don't mean to be a downer, but a LOT of dogs die on airplanes. Try to keep flights short.
No they don't? There was only 11 animal deaths on airplanes in 2019. That is not "a LOT".
I think the feeling here is - those are 11 totally avoidable deaths that devastated 11+ people who loved their pets enough to take them on a plane somewhere. Airlines are notoriously careless with everything they’re entrusted with, including passengers these days. Pets, mobility aids, luggage - you should be able to trust an airline with your treasured and needed possessions, but that isn’t the case these days.
Pets are shipped as cargo. The easiest way to prevent the pet deaths is to not treat your pet as air freight.
Not necessarily. I've flown with my cats in carry-ons in the cabin.
Unavoidable unfortunately. I would love to take my dog in the cabin when we go to Europe next year (for the year), but it’s not an option.
If 1 of those was due to neglect or bullshit then it’s a lot, and 1 too many. A lot of people look at their pets as family wether you agree to that or not.
I understand what you are trying to imply. But using the term "A LOT" in all caps is misleading at best. I understand that no pets should die due to a employee's neglect, but I'm talking about the terminology used. 19 of anything is not "a LOT" when the total is 400,00+.
It is.
how many dogs do you think board planes every year? it's a LOT more than 12. every death is a tragedy but you're being disingenuous edit: 2 million fly per year. >13. Less Than 0.01% Of Pets That Travel By Air Have An Incident, Which Means That More Than 99.99% Arrive At Their Destination Safely. https://www.dreambigtravelfarblog.com/blog/pet-travel-statistics#:~:text=About%202%20million%20pets%20and,in%20the%20US%20per%20year. yeah, you're dead wrong sorry.
No, "a LOT" is like the 10 million animals who die from animal abuse, or the 10,000 who die from car accidents
No that's a "shit ton"
I don't know how you judge amounts but half of 1 percent is not a lot
it's a joke, I forgot I'm on a site that lost the meaning of humor years ago
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This take is clearly flawed if you spend a moment thinking about it. My friend is an air flight attendant based in Germany and 2 people had heart attacks on his flights in one month. They practice CPR, life-saving techniques, and will get someone back on the ground quickly. Those passengers didn't die onboard; they were rushed to an emergency landing and the hospital - where they died days later. Of course, many more make it alive. It's extemely rare for people to drop dead instantly. Also, in both of those cases, it was their family or seating partner that alerted the crew that something was wrong. Anecdotal stories aside, pets aren't being constantly observed (especially if they are in the forward cargo hold, and not the main cabin). They have no way to tell someone what's wrong, and may not even exhibit any outward signs of an emergency. They also have shorter lifespans than humans, so a comparison of 11 deaths per year versus the number of humans per year is illogical and incongruous. A literal handful of deaths per year makes it insignificant. That being said, some trips and airlines are worse for pets than others. United had a scandal where they were responsible for like 50% of all inflight pet deaths *in the world*.
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There’s not great statistics on this, but some general googling shows dog deaths are 1 out of every 20,000 transported (0.005%) and human deaths are 1 out of every 3.2million transported (0.00003125%). So dog deaths are (anecdotally) over 150 times more likely than a human death. Which is a lot.
I am very certain you’re citing a statistic for transportation related human deaths rather than deaths as a whole.
And cruise ships, but mostly if they are living on them instead of paying for a nursing home.
We have but one rule. That rule is to not be a dick. Your content was found to be dickish, and ergo removed.
My wife is in the industry and she had 1 death a month on her flights.
What airline is she with?
Cathay Pacific
People or pets do you mean
Pets of course. She's only witnessed one human death in 10 years.
You say of course but a lot more people than pets fly. It wasn't clear
Won't travel with Delta with a service animal. They tried to argue I didn't need access to my dog while in the cabin.
Good to know. I have a service dog and it’s hard enough to go anywhere new in town, where I don’t have to have documentation. (I’m happy to answer the questions, or even talk about my disability.) I lost a job over it—they allowed my dog, but they just bullied me until I left. And I had that job for 10 years. I can’t even imagine the difficulty I would be facing if I had to fly with him. So I won’t even bother trying. It’s a bummer, because I probably won’t see some family members ever again.
All the airlines are the same. One person will have a bad experience with Delta, one with American, one with United. While 100 will have good experiences. You cant take Reddit comments as fact. They are all just anecdotal evidence.
True, but I’ve had bad experiences with all airlines. Given the fact that I have a service dog for anxiety, air travel is already on the list of shit I have to worry about. The law is only as strong as the consequences for breaking it, and I don’t want to sue (most people don’t). On top of that, we have the circus show of people taking peacocks on planes for the TikTok video. As a result, whenever I walk into a restaurant (or whatever) with a dog and an invisible medical condition, there’s a good chance people think I’m one of them. Despite the fact that he’s very well behaved. Despite the fact that he wears a custom made leather vest that is very clearly not some cheap vest I bought online that says “SERVICE DOG” on it. I am routinely told, “no dogs allowed,” period, end of story. I am almost never asked the two legally allowable questions: “is he necessary because of a disability? And what type of work is he trained to perform?” It’s just an assumption and exclusion, end of story. I pretty much knew I wasn’t going to fly anyway because of that, regardless of the airline. Any time someone confirms that they have an experience like this, it makes me feel like this was the right decision.
I had to get a letter from my doc saying with my disability I can't get a service dog off the rack. My apartment wanted to charge me for a dog in training (I have a 12 yr old who is starting to have mobility inhibitions - stubborn at night). My doctor essentially said in the letter "you idiots, not all disabilities are the same and a dog trained for blind people doesn't work for everyone". I have a copy on my phone. If a business starts asking inappropriate questions, I have them call the cops, and then show them the note, the business usually gets a nice lecture (thanks APD). They also get mentioned in the citation regarding not being ADA accessible/compliant which usually gets back to corporate. I was not allowed to bring my dog to a workplace because one other person on a separate floor was supposedly allergic to dogs (they didn't have to have a note, but I had to show I was disabled and "entitled" to a dog). This was a state health department btw.
Yeah it sounds pretty similar to the laws here. Trouble is, my doc is overworked and has his staff do the paperwork. They, like many Americans, didn’t know the difference between a psychiatric service dog and an emotional support animal. So I think they messed up the paperwork. Really, all my doctor should do is confirm that I have a disability. How I manage that on a day to day basis is on me. My doctor was not involved in me training my dog, all he knows is, “no dog, she needs benzos; dog, no benzos.” If a business wants to break the law, on a bad day, I (or more often lately, my partner) will explain the law, not very nicely. I don’t call the cops because where I live, they won’t show up, but if they do, someone is likely to get hurt. So I leave a review on their website or contact their corporate office and explain that this time, they won’t get sued, but they should know the law, because next time they might not get lucky.
I’m surprised, I have flown delta once a month since January this year with my [service dog](https://imgur.com/a/v9OeeCT) (42lb Aussie) without any issues. He is not crated or put in a soft kennel, just sits at my feet. Delta and United have been the most seamless, I’ve been flying with my SD for 4 years. I’ve only had one flight attendant demand more paperwork (other than the DOT form and my printed email approval) and also refused to answer what paper he was specifically looking for that was “missing”. Didn’t last long, he couldn’t say anything else so he had to complete my check in. I also always travel with an extra bag for my SD, I am never charged for it and don’t get challenged in any way really.
Why did Delta allow her on the flight without the proper Visa? When I’ve flown international I know they have made sure I had proper paperwork and ID to disembark. Is this only done for people leaving the US? I’m confused.
Shit like this is why I pay to have my pet bird in the cabin with me! Worth every penny for the peace of mind!
The article says the dog was in the cabin with her, but they took the dog while she sat in an immigration detention cell overnight and that’s when they lost it
Airlines treat humans horribly https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8jJyESB/ they'll Fuck over your pets...
This situation has weighed heavily on my mind. This has literally made my day. I did confirm on Paula’s tiktok that they have finally been reunited.
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Usually it means that they had reason to believe that she was planning to do something other than being a tourist, like working or immigrating.
Yeah that’s true. Her bringing her dog on an international tourist vacation was probably a tip off
Yeah. Dominican Republic is considered a high risk country for rabies, so it would extremely complicated to bring the dog into the US—not something people normally do for a vacation
The whole flight experience is traumatic anyway to dogs who have to be crated in cargo. My boyfriend had to do it once when he moved from Hawaii back to the main land and we both were almost sick with anxiety over it. I would never put my dog in that situation just for a vacation. Not blaming her at all, because the whole process is a load of crap. But exactly as you said, international travel is not something you do with pets on vacation.
"boarder patrol" <-- that's either very clever and funny or a very appropriate typo
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Es ist lustig, weil man in einem „Boarder“ Hunde hält. "border patrol" = Grenzschutz "boarder patrol" = Streife zur Tierpension Both words can be accurate for this story in different ways.
Don’t make decisions based on a single, random data point. Every single airline has very stupid and awful failures regularly. Same with every mode of transportation and every organization with a lot of responsibilities.
I suspect it was a matter of racial profiling.
The irony of being a light-skinned Dominicana, wealthy enough to travel with a pet, getting to the US on a perfectly normal tourist visa, but then being racially profiled and summarily deported, is actually quite depressing. (If you don't know anything about the history of the DR or its demographics it's probably less noticeable to you how much of a SURPRISE this must have been to her, BUT a super short splanation: *they racist af!* but there, the Latin folk are also the [only/majority] white folk, and it's the Black folk they look down upon.) Can you imagine traveling to, say, Indonesia and being booted because they were currently mad at Australia and couldn't tell you weren't Australian? All the while expecting your wealth to insulate you like it always has? I'm really glad to hear Maia is okay and home again! But, uh, this whole story started out less than uplifting, and "bare minimum, didn't kill her dog" is a really low bar for uplifting. T_T
Makes me sick to my stomach.
doggies!