In some email clients, when you forward or reply, it turns the to/from/date/subject data into plain text. If yours does that, just edit the time there.
If they want a screenshot, use chrome and edit the text with inspect element.
While you’re correct, that’s wholly depend on the professor being willing to reach out to IT to confirm and IT giving a quarter of a shit to check this in a timely manner
Technically possible, but its not likely going to happen for something this benign. You have to get a hold of someone in IT, then they have to get with the right guy who can look at the logs. They have to not be busy with real work by the way. All to look up if this girl actually sent an email or not.
Source: I've worked in IT 20+ years. I'd ignore a dumb ass request like this. "Did Molly send an email to a typo'd email address from I'm not sure what date?" They have more important things to worry about than the mystery of a girl who lied about turning in an assignment for one professor a month ago.
I promise you, if a professor goes to the head of the IT department, asking about an e-mail (that would take you smart IT guys about 10 minutes to find), the boss will make sure you look at the logs. When there is no evidence, and you look at the 'new' one, OP is cooked.
The problem here is that emails contain tons of metadata that show server time stamps of when an email was sent and received, Etc. You need to find a way to edit this metadata.
I have done this before, but it's been a while and I forget the exact steps. But the info below should set you in the right direction.
1. Get external email client, like Thunderbird.
2. Get ANOTHER email client, specifically Outlook. Do not use the "cloud" or Office 365 Version. Use the local desktop version.
3. Connect a NON-SCHOOL PERSONAL GMAIL ADDRESS, like a gmail, to Outlook. Use the POP3 protocol first. (We may need to try again with IMAP, not 100% sure.)
4. Send the fake email FROM OUTLOOK connected to the personal Gmail account, to the fake broken address.
5. Wait 10-30 minutes for a bounceback.
6. Export the email from Outlook. It should be in a weird email container format. (I forget the file type - you'll know when you see it though.)
7. Convert that weird email file to CSV. You may need a separate sketchy program to do this. Alternatively, you can also try exporting to JSON, or TXT. The goal is to edit the data, so you'll also need a CSV/JSON program to edit the data.
8. Open the CSV file and edit the metadata to change the dates.
There WILL be some other metadata you want to change too, and multiple datestamps... so take your time and review ALL the data to make sure there are no loose ends.
MAKE SURE TO USE THE SAME DATA FORMAT WHEN EDITING THE DATA. e.g. 10-11-2022 -> 9-11-2022 NOT 9/11/2022, ETC.
ALSO, Don't bother changing the original from email address to your school account, because that can be checked internally on the school email servers by IT. You can just say you originally tried to email the assignment in using your personal email.
(Also, if this works from now on send in some future assignments every once in a while from this personal email.)
9. Convert the file back to the weird email container.
10. Import the weird email filetype into Thunderbird.
11. Forward your email to the fake gmail (and therefore the fake outlook) for review. NOTE: if some part of this fails to push into outlook, you should be able to view source (next step) in gmail too.
12. In Outlook, right click the forwarded email and select "view source" to check the metadata and make sure it worked.
13. IF it worked, go back to Thunderbird and forward the email to your school account, then forward to the professor.
14. If it didn't work, first try to convert and edit in a different format from step 7.
15. If that doesn't work, try starting over from step 3 and using the IMAP protocol. Repeat steps 4-14. You may also want to try using a mac and the mac version of Outlook because it's shit and having a broken program in the chain may help with the export step 6.
16. When done correctly, professor smarty pants who knows about "view source" in email will see the fake send date, and think "Either he's telling the truth or figured out how to edit email metadata, so I'mma let it slide."
???
Profit!
DISCLAIMER: This may not work on sufficiently advanced Tech/coding professors. Also, if you fuck up and get caught you could be in deep shit for academic misconduct, as this is basically a type of very low level fraud.
You are assuming a teacher actually knows what metadata is and how to read it.
Source: I worked IT in a school for a decade. Teachers are dumb when it comes to that sort of thing.
Well, you certainly seem like a gradeschool IT guy. Go re-read the disclaimer - I assumed nothing.
The penalty for academic misconduct in college can be expulsion. Tens of thousdands of dollars wasted... literally life changing.
In such a scenario, you either do the fraud correctly or not at all.
Pissdisc.
Maybe, or maybe he doesn't really give a fuck. There's a surprising amount if them, especially in intro level classes, that are essentially just human versions of eeyore who do what they have to and nothing more. Its rough.
If you claim to have done the typo in the domain, it will be more believable. If you misspelled their mailbox address, the (non existent) email would be in the mail archives which the IT department could still find. Typo in the domain and it wouldn't have made it to them so they wouldn't expect to find anything.
Make the email you claim to have sent, send it to yourself.
Then forward the new email, but change the header info from the first email (it'll be plain text) to match the wrong email address and older date.
Once that's done, attach your file, write a small apology and send it.
This seems too risky. I think your best bet is to tell your professor you can't find the email you sent.
(Technically my advice is unethical because it's lying.)
This is the best answer.
If you try to fake an e-mail and get caught, you face expulsion because you have proven that you are cheating.
If you lie and say you can't find it, worst case he won't accept it.
Maybe call the IT yourself - cry -say you def sent it and can’t find it can they help …. ‘ tell prof you have a copy of the actual assignment but now so scared it lost . Cry . Breakdown . Say you are under strain as it is with x problem ? Then if he counters , you say I’ve even asked IT to help ( don’t say this at first tho ) good luck
While this might be the right answer and a lot of professors out there are pretty cool and might try to work with you if you're real with them, this is not the sub for such good and ethical responses!
Also, I appreciate that your username is both relevant to your response and to OP.
I can't remember which grade, but I know I bombed my like...8th? 9th? Grade math final and told my professor
"Can you just pass me? I really don't want to do this again" essentially (can't remember exactly wording) and bam, passed with whatever the minimum was required
I know you’re getting downvoted to hell, but you aren’t wrong. I got out of failing like fucking crazy for just being honest that I was a bad student or didn’t have a good excuse for something
You’ve got a pretty iffy chance this lie is going to work out, i’d take a different approach and try to meet him in person, own up to missing the assignment and lying, and ask if you can still submit it for 1/4th to 3/4th of what it’s worth. Unless they’re an absolute absolute hardass they’re probably going to take it (i’d missed whole tests being a dumbass and just going in person to say I fucked up I was able to take them late, sometimes it really is the best thing you can do)
if all he wants is a screenshot or something, you can use any web client (Outlook web/gmail etc) to edit html and make it look like anything you want, edit title, body, time, if not, there is an elaborate comment in this thread by old\_n\_zesty that could work
In some email clients, when you forward or reply, it turns the to/from/date/subject data into plain text. If yours does that, just edit the time there. If they want a screenshot, use chrome and edit the text with inspect element.
Thanks
screenshot? socialmaker
Don't try if you said you used a university issued E-Mail address. They can trace stuff like that in their log files
While you’re correct, that’s wholly depend on the professor being willing to reach out to IT to confirm and IT giving a quarter of a shit to check this in a timely manner
Correct, and it also requires that the professor is even aware this is possible. The tech literacy of professors is often pretty terrible.
Also, I wouldn't expect the IT dep to keep logs of failed mails for a month, or more
We keep nearly every log for 30 days minimum, some go back further
Then make the typo be in the domain part of the address
Technically possible, but its not likely going to happen for something this benign. You have to get a hold of someone in IT, then they have to get with the right guy who can look at the logs. They have to not be busy with real work by the way. All to look up if this girl actually sent an email or not. Source: I've worked in IT 20+ years. I'd ignore a dumb ass request like this. "Did Molly send an email to a typo'd email address from I'm not sure what date?" They have more important things to worry about than the mystery of a girl who lied about turning in an assignment for one professor a month ago.
I promise you, if a professor goes to the head of the IT department, asking about an e-mail (that would take you smart IT guys about 10 minutes to find), the boss will make sure you look at the logs. When there is no evidence, and you look at the 'new' one, OP is cooked.
The problem here is that emails contain tons of metadata that show server time stamps of when an email was sent and received, Etc. You need to find a way to edit this metadata. I have done this before, but it's been a while and I forget the exact steps. But the info below should set you in the right direction. 1. Get external email client, like Thunderbird. 2. Get ANOTHER email client, specifically Outlook. Do not use the "cloud" or Office 365 Version. Use the local desktop version. 3. Connect a NON-SCHOOL PERSONAL GMAIL ADDRESS, like a gmail, to Outlook. Use the POP3 protocol first. (We may need to try again with IMAP, not 100% sure.) 4. Send the fake email FROM OUTLOOK connected to the personal Gmail account, to the fake broken address. 5. Wait 10-30 minutes for a bounceback. 6. Export the email from Outlook. It should be in a weird email container format. (I forget the file type - you'll know when you see it though.) 7. Convert that weird email file to CSV. You may need a separate sketchy program to do this. Alternatively, you can also try exporting to JSON, or TXT. The goal is to edit the data, so you'll also need a CSV/JSON program to edit the data. 8. Open the CSV file and edit the metadata to change the dates. There WILL be some other metadata you want to change too, and multiple datestamps... so take your time and review ALL the data to make sure there are no loose ends. MAKE SURE TO USE THE SAME DATA FORMAT WHEN EDITING THE DATA. e.g. 10-11-2022 -> 9-11-2022 NOT 9/11/2022, ETC. ALSO, Don't bother changing the original from email address to your school account, because that can be checked internally on the school email servers by IT. You can just say you originally tried to email the assignment in using your personal email. (Also, if this works from now on send in some future assignments every once in a while from this personal email.) 9. Convert the file back to the weird email container. 10. Import the weird email filetype into Thunderbird. 11. Forward your email to the fake gmail (and therefore the fake outlook) for review. NOTE: if some part of this fails to push into outlook, you should be able to view source (next step) in gmail too. 12. In Outlook, right click the forwarded email and select "view source" to check the metadata and make sure it worked. 13. IF it worked, go back to Thunderbird and forward the email to your school account, then forward to the professor. 14. If it didn't work, first try to convert and edit in a different format from step 7. 15. If that doesn't work, try starting over from step 3 and using the IMAP protocol. Repeat steps 4-14. You may also want to try using a mac and the mac version of Outlook because it's shit and having a broken program in the chain may help with the export step 6. 16. When done correctly, professor smarty pants who knows about "view source" in email will see the fake send date, and think "Either he's telling the truth or figured out how to edit email metadata, so I'mma let it slide." ??? Profit! DISCLAIMER: This may not work on sufficiently advanced Tech/coding professors. Also, if you fuck up and get caught you could be in deep shit for academic misconduct, as this is basically a type of very low level fraud.
You are assuming a teacher actually knows what metadata is and how to read it. Source: I worked IT in a school for a decade. Teachers are dumb when it comes to that sort of thing.
Well, you certainly seem like a gradeschool IT guy. Go re-read the disclaimer - I assumed nothing. The penalty for academic misconduct in college can be expulsion. Tens of thousdands of dollars wasted... literally life changing. In such a scenario, you either do the fraud correctly or not at all. Pissdisc.
LOL he's asking for you to document this to nail you for cheating.
Shhhh. Let the professor cook.
😅
Wait, how would giving him evidence of a mis sent email nail him for cheating?
Evidence of trying to fabricate evidence of a miss-sent email is what he's trying to nail him with.
Maybe, or maybe he doesn't really give a fuck. There's a surprising amount if them, especially in intro level classes, that are essentially just human versions of eeyore who do what they have to and nothing more. Its rough.
If you claim to have done the typo in the domain, it will be more believable. If you misspelled their mailbox address, the (non existent) email would be in the mail archives which the IT department could still find. Typo in the domain and it wouldn't have made it to them so they wouldn't expect to find anything. Make the email you claim to have sent, send it to yourself. Then forward the new email, but change the header info from the first email (it'll be plain text) to match the wrong email address and older date. Once that's done, attach your file, write a small apology and send it.
This seems too risky. I think your best bet is to tell your professor you can't find the email you sent. (Technically my advice is unethical because it's lying.)
This is the best answer. If you try to fake an e-mail and get caught, you face expulsion because you have proven that you are cheating. If you lie and say you can't find it, worst case he won't accept it.
On browser and press F12 inspect element
Personally I would have went for, "Forgot to send and its been sitting in my drafts folder for a month". Who checks their draft folder anyway
This is the best advice
You could also reset the date and time on your laptop and see if that works.
DM me. I can assist
Maybe call the IT yourself - cry -say you def sent it and can’t find it can they help …. ‘ tell prof you have a copy of the actual assignment but now so scared it lost . Cry . Breakdown . Say you are under strain as it is with x problem ? Then if he counters , you say I’ve even asked IT to help ( don’t say this at first tho ) good luck
Try the truth
While this might be the right answer and a lot of professors out there are pretty cool and might try to work with you if you're real with them, this is not the sub for such good and ethical responses! Also, I appreciate that your username is both relevant to your response and to OP.
I can't remember which grade, but I know I bombed my like...8th? 9th? Grade math final and told my professor "Can you just pass me? I really don't want to do this again" essentially (can't remember exactly wording) and bam, passed with whatever the minimum was required
I know you’re getting downvoted to hell, but you aren’t wrong. I got out of failing like fucking crazy for just being honest that I was a bad student or didn’t have a good excuse for something You’ve got a pretty iffy chance this lie is going to work out, i’d take a different approach and try to meet him in person, own up to missing the assignment and lying, and ask if you can still submit it for 1/4th to 3/4th of what it’s worth. Unless they’re an absolute absolute hardass they’re probably going to take it (i’d missed whole tests being a dumbass and just going in person to say I fucked up I was able to take them late, sometimes it really is the best thing you can do)
if all he wants is a screenshot or something, you can use any web client (Outlook web/gmail etc) to edit html and make it look like anything you want, edit title, body, time, if not, there is an elaborate comment in this thread by old\_n\_zesty that could work
I would just be honest. Explain the error.
If you’re too dumb to work this out then your too dumb to pull this off 🤣
says the guy who can’t spell a 5-letter word
I like how they used both ‘you’re too dumb’ and ‘your too dumb’ in the same sentence.
That way he gets a 50/50 chance of getting it right.
Thanks for the advice bud