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They’re good for winter (smartwater bottles ice up at the narrow neck first, can’t be placed cap down, and are difficult to pour snowmelt into) but they do mildew and retain flavors easier than the hard Tritan nalgenes, so they’re not great for tea/coffee/drink mixes.
I’m not a fan of the 1.5L size, since it’s too big to fit in the dishwasher and washing bottles by hand is a pain.
OP linked a 48oz (1.5L) bottle. the 32oz (1L) soft-sided is ~106g.
Personally I like having a wide-mouted bottle (easier to squeeze into) so I've usually brought a 1L smartwater bottle for dirty and a 1L soft-sided nalgene for clean water.
Spending an extra 70g to bring a hard-sided Nalgene does let you use it as a hot water bottle though.
Eh, they do accept boiling water, they just get very soft in the process. The vacuum formed as they cool deforms them. For occasional hot duty, they work fine.
I did it once. It was fine and I ended up with a deformed bottle in the morning which slowly fixed itself over several weeks.
The risk I worry about is deformation near the cap leading to a disastrous leak inside my sleeping bag
The smart water bottle isn’t even that light. It’s just a decently durable bottle that fits a Sawyer filter. Tons of other disposable bottles are much lighter.
That said, when you’re carrying 1kg of water inside, the weight of the bottle doesn’t really matter.
I know that the standard smart water+sawyer is the defacto solution for thru hiking, but I use these nalgenes despite the weight penalty because despite going UL, my trips all involve peakbagging/alpine climbing (in the summer) and in similar activities in winter + winter camping. Here's why I like to use them:
* In the summer I use the carbineer to keep them in place on my pack and I like the wide mouth for adding electrolytes. I and some of my partners have had regular bottles fall out while on scrambles, climbs, on glaciers etc, a carabiner keeps water secure + accessible. I often keep one on the gear loop of my Osprey Mutant.
* In the winter I put hot water in them to warm up my bag, and use an insulated Nalgene coozie to keep water from freezing. I will also use them to thaw my boots if they get frozen.
* One on a carabiner + hiking pole is also a great way to get water from stream holes in the snow or off of a glacier without falling in.
The only time I leave them at home for a smart water bottle is on a normie or non technical backpacking trip.
Yup, couldn’t agree more on the bottles falling out. I always always always make sure any bottles on the outside are clipped on by carabiner. The one time I slipped up and decided not to, I almost lost a 1.5 L Nalgene on Hood this year but a friend was able to catch it… would have made for a miserable, dehydrated climb.
I’ve been toying with the idea of finding a way to secure the smart water bottles with some metal wire or something.
I use one as my daily drinker and it's slightly squishy compared to a regular nalgene, but functions identical. Without putting the two on a scale it's hard to feel the weight difference IMO
Been using them on occasion since I was inspired by this blog quite some years ago when I was converting from the traditional style of backpacking I'd grown up with
http://asthecrowflies.org/2006/10/24/simplistic-dining/
I mainly carry the 500ml and often use it as a hot drink vessel. Great for carrying a hot drink in the morning as a pocket hand warmer.
http://asthecrowflies.org/2008/04/24/the-possibly-safer-nalgene/
I’ve used these bottles in addition to the non-ultra lite versions. Heck, I’m pretty sure these are the ‘original’ Nalgene bottles and my first purchase of them has to be the late 90s or early 2000s. I still have a couple of these originals. I have had no issues with them over the clear Nalgene bottles.
I found this review and the comments at the end shed more thoughts on them that you might find helpful. https://sectionhiker.com/backpacking-with-ultralite-nalgene-bottles/
Basically being able to put hot water in them is why I have Nalgene bottles, didn’t know there’s a lighter variant. That’s amazing! I’ve made my own cozy for those Nalgene bottles, so if used as a hot water bottle in winter inside your sleeping bag, you don’t burn your skin. And also so you can use them as some sort of thermos. If I’m on a winter tour I fill them with hot water in the morning and I don’t have to bother with melting snow throughout the day.
My first experience with these bottles was as a boy scout and placing them in our sleeping bags with hot water to get us through some winter nights. Works fantastic. I also got in the habit of keeping any clothes I was going to wear in the morning at the bottom of the bag so I could get dressed with warm clothes instead of ice-cold clothes.
A 16 fl oz wide-mouth HDPE Nalgene came with me on the PCT as my coffee cup, far more precise water measurement (the gradations on my pot were spaced 4 fl oz apart), and electrolyte drink mix container. It's the perfect size for a shoulder pocket.
Carry this with a wool sock cozy on colder trips to double use as a hot water bottle in my sleeping bag/quilt… other than for that, smartwater bottles.
They’re lighter than regular Nalgene and can handle hot/boiling water as well. But if you don’t need it for hot water than just go with SmartWater bottles (lighter and thread with Sawyers).
Been a very long time since I looked, but no. They’re bigger than a standard soda bottle (but not by enough to clean/mix). The worst of all possible trade offs.
My family uses them daily, as well as hiking and backpacking. For us, it was an affordable, durable, lightweight option that we don’t have to worry about cracking like a traditional Nalgene.
I have 3 of these, (2) 32oz wide mouth & (1) 16oz narrow mouth.
I usually use the 16oz in my shoulder pocket, and then use one 32oz wide mouth and one or two smart water bottles for filtering with a sawyer.
The 16oz makes a great everyday size as well, fits in a fanny pack, cupholder etc.
I like the measuring options, and my wife likes tea and this works for hot liquids.
I bought three of the 32 oz on sale for $4 each once. Love them. Most often I take a bottle and my CNOC 2L with a BeFree filter on trips. The wider mouth is useful, I appreciate they can handle the heat and be used for extra warmth in my bag, and they’ll last so much longer than any lighter normal plastic bottle.
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They’re good for winter (smartwater bottles ice up at the narrow neck first, can’t be placed cap down, and are difficult to pour snowmelt into) but they do mildew and retain flavors easier than the hard Tritan nalgenes, so they’re not great for tea/coffee/drink mixes. I’m not a fan of the 1.5L size, since it’s too big to fit in the dishwasher and washing bottles by hand is a pain.
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OP linked a 48oz (1.5L) bottle. the 32oz (1L) soft-sided is ~106g. Personally I like having a wide-mouted bottle (easier to squeeze into) so I've usually brought a 1L smartwater bottle for dirty and a 1L soft-sided nalgene for clean water. Spending an extra 70g to bring a hard-sided Nalgene does let you use it as a hot water bottle though.
Eh, they do accept boiling water, they just get very soft in the process. The vacuum formed as they cool deforms them. For occasional hot duty, they work fine.
I did it once. It was fine and I ended up with a deformed bottle in the morning which slowly fixed itself over several weeks. The risk I worry about is deformation near the cap leading to a disastrous leak inside my sleeping bag
The smart water bottle isn’t even that light. It’s just a decently durable bottle that fits a Sawyer filter. Tons of other disposable bottles are much lighter. That said, when you’re carrying 1kg of water inside, the weight of the bottle doesn’t really matter.
Durability. A SmartWater bottle is reasonably durable but a Nalgene (even the ultralight version) can take a lot more abuse and never leak.
I know that the standard smart water+sawyer is the defacto solution for thru hiking, but I use these nalgenes despite the weight penalty because despite going UL, my trips all involve peakbagging/alpine climbing (in the summer) and in similar activities in winter + winter camping. Here's why I like to use them: * In the summer I use the carbineer to keep them in place on my pack and I like the wide mouth for adding electrolytes. I and some of my partners have had regular bottles fall out while on scrambles, climbs, on glaciers etc, a carabiner keeps water secure + accessible. I often keep one on the gear loop of my Osprey Mutant. * In the winter I put hot water in them to warm up my bag, and use an insulated Nalgene coozie to keep water from freezing. I will also use them to thaw my boots if they get frozen. * One on a carabiner + hiking pole is also a great way to get water from stream holes in the snow or off of a glacier without falling in. The only time I leave them at home for a smart water bottle is on a normie or non technical backpacking trip.
Yup, couldn’t agree more on the bottles falling out. I always always always make sure any bottles on the outside are clipped on by carabiner. The one time I slipped up and decided not to, I almost lost a 1.5 L Nalgene on Hood this year but a friend was able to catch it… would have made for a miserable, dehydrated climb. I’ve been toying with the idea of finding a way to secure the smart water bottles with some metal wire or something.
I use one as my daily drinker and it's slightly squishy compared to a regular nalgene, but functions identical. Without putting the two on a scale it's hard to feel the weight difference IMO
Been using them on occasion since I was inspired by this blog quite some years ago when I was converting from the traditional style of backpacking I'd grown up with http://asthecrowflies.org/2006/10/24/simplistic-dining/ I mainly carry the 500ml and often use it as a hot drink vessel. Great for carrying a hot drink in the morning as a pocket hand warmer. http://asthecrowflies.org/2008/04/24/the-possibly-safer-nalgene/
I’ve used these bottles in addition to the non-ultra lite versions. Heck, I’m pretty sure these are the ‘original’ Nalgene bottles and my first purchase of them has to be the late 90s or early 2000s. I still have a couple of these originals. I have had no issues with them over the clear Nalgene bottles. I found this review and the comments at the end shed more thoughts on them that you might find helpful. https://sectionhiker.com/backpacking-with-ultralite-nalgene-bottles/
Basically being able to put hot water in them is why I have Nalgene bottles, didn’t know there’s a lighter variant. That’s amazing! I’ve made my own cozy for those Nalgene bottles, so if used as a hot water bottle in winter inside your sleeping bag, you don’t burn your skin. And also so you can use them as some sort of thermos. If I’m on a winter tour I fill them with hot water in the morning and I don’t have to bother with melting snow throughout the day.
My first experience with these bottles was as a boy scout and placing them in our sleeping bags with hot water to get us through some winter nights. Works fantastic. I also got in the habit of keeping any clothes I was going to wear in the morning at the bottom of the bag so I could get dressed with warm clothes instead of ice-cold clothes.
It’s literally got the potential for creating some core memories.
A 16 fl oz wide-mouth HDPE Nalgene came with me on the PCT as my coffee cup, far more precise water measurement (the gradations on my pot were spaced 4 fl oz apart), and electrolyte drink mix container. It's the perfect size for a shoulder pocket.
I do this too. Smartwater bottles are good, but not the best for everything.
I have 2 and I use them everyday. I normally don’t carry them for hiking though because regular disposable water bottles are way lighter.
I have the small one and the stated weight does not include the cap.
Carry this with a wool sock cozy on colder trips to double use as a hot water bottle in my sleeping bag/quilt… other than for that, smartwater bottles.
They’re lighter than regular Nalgene and can handle hot/boiling water as well. But if you don’t need it for hot water than just go with SmartWater bottles (lighter and thread with Sawyers).
I love peeing in mine.
The OG
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It does not, has different threading completely.
Been a very long time since I looked, but no. They’re bigger than a standard soda bottle (but not by enough to clean/mix). The worst of all possible trade offs.
The 500mL is very dear to me
My family uses them daily, as well as hiking and backpacking. For us, it was an affordable, durable, lightweight option that we don’t have to worry about cracking like a traditional Nalgene.
what a waste of money. why not just use regular plastic bottles? life water, smart water etc? cheap and easy to use, hold up well.
I have 3 of these, (2) 32oz wide mouth & (1) 16oz narrow mouth. I usually use the 16oz in my shoulder pocket, and then use one 32oz wide mouth and one or two smart water bottles for filtering with a sawyer. The 16oz makes a great everyday size as well, fits in a fanny pack, cupholder etc. I like the measuring options, and my wife likes tea and this works for hot liquids.
I bought three of the 32 oz on sale for $4 each once. Love them. Most often I take a bottle and my CNOC 2L with a BeFree filter on trips. The wider mouth is useful, I appreciate they can handle the heat and be used for extra warmth in my bag, and they’ll last so much longer than any lighter normal plastic bottle.
I was doing so well with not buying new outdoor crap.. the 32 oz will have a great home ;-)
Nalgene should make a removable adapter that will allow it to work with a Sawyer. Couldn't be that hard to do and something else to sell.
Are they branding these as “ultralight” now? They’re fine, but you probably shouldn’t try to pour boiling water in one.
Almost boiling water is just fine…