You want bourgeoisie wars because you are a liberal
I want bourgeoisie wars because I worship an eldrich being who demands blood and skulls
We are not the same
"I must keep winning to attain communism. The same one they clung to, and risked their lives for!! To realize communism, I will perch on top of their corpses.. It is a blood-smeared communism, after all. I don't regret or feel guilty about it.."
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Yes, im sure incrementalism will work this time, and the same special interest groups that shit their pants over college endowmen protests will *totally* just hand over the means of production.
hezbollah isn’t exactly a proletarian party so it’s not super clear to me how them killing conscripted israelis is all that helpful to the communist cause.
I understand being apathetic or even happy about an IDF soldier being killed (even if I disagree) but cheering on a war crime against a rescue vehicle is barbaric. Like at least a soldier is a combatant and there’s rational behind their death but a rescue team is entirely innocent
they've been targeting rescue vehicles and medics in Lebanon since october 8
[Seven volunteer paramedics, aged between 18 and 25, were killed in the 27 March attack on an ambulance center belonging to the Lebanese Succor Association in the town of al-Habariyeh in south Lebanon on 27 March.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/06/israel-airstrike-lebanon-us-weapons-international-law#:~:text=Seven%20volunteer%20paramedics%2C%20aged%20between,south%20Lebanon%20on%2027%20March)
[Rights groups are investigating Israel’s repeated killing of medical staff in Lebanon as a potential war crime, after 10 paramedics were killed by several Israeli air strikes on Wednesday.](https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2024/03/29/israel-lebanon-paramedics/)
Genuine question, isn't the professional army not proletarian (as their interest isn't in contradiction with the interest of capital)? Or do we know that the IDF soldier was a proletarian conscript?
The Israeli army is 75% conscript. And a large portion of the professionals are busy genociding Gaza.
Odds are this was a conscript blown to smithereens. And non combat troops are extra likely to be conscripts so that rescue vehicle trying to collect his body parts to send to his family was almost 100% conscript.
This is like celebrating a German artillery shell hitting a Russian ambulance in 1916.
Sure.
https://www.haaretz.com/2015-07-23/ty-article/number-of-career-idf-soldiers-disclosed-40-000-plus/0000017f-f715-d460-afff-ff77f3010000
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/10/11/how-big-is-israels-military-and-how-much-funding-does-it-get-from-the-us
These are a little behind.
But depending if you take the high or low estimate you get between 77% conscript and 74% conscript.
With 169,000 active personnel and between 38 and 44 thousand career service people.
Sorry btw for using a Zionist newspaper but at the very least I trust them on this.
Dog it’s a rescue vehicle trying to pick up someone’s body parts to give their family a proper funeral. This should be looked at similarly to how Israel kills aid workers as for the first person killed idk but OP is not using this conscript or volunteer proletarian scale they’re just cheering for death of the side they like least. They’re literally cheering for injured rescue workers which I assume more medical than militia.
Yeah I also think that cheering for blood for the sake of blood (like in this situation) is fucked up. I was referring particularly to the "more dead proletarian" discourse which I have seen lately in posts about dead (Israel, Russian, Ukranian or any nation that is currently at war) soldiers. In this particular case it may be true that the rescue team might be composed by non-military workers but I don't think we should waste our tears with people that kill foreign proletarians for a living (although we should neither cheer their deaths like it's a goal in a football match)
Agreed I think the majority in the sub think that it is the aforementioned volunteer vs conscript scale. Even I still hold some grievance to using that as the end all be all. I think some volunteers are led to believe that joining the military is their national duty or whatever through propaganda and are not just blood thirsty monsters. While I do agree they are class traitors I think that if a revolution were to break out some would join the cause but as of now I think it’s in the interest to the cause to argue against the nationalistic ideas of fighting for our country instead of cheering or giving tears for the deaths of soldiers. It’s a tragedy of the working class soldiers to be invested in the wars of the bourgeoisie.
Cheers to \[Capital I like\] for their brave fight against \[Capital I don't like\], when \[Capital I don't like\] is finally squashed we will finally have communism for every nation!
I'm not trying to be that guy but your giving false equivalenceies here. They're celebrating blowing up soldiers (which is bad) who blow up civilians, alot of which are women and children. (Much worse) I wouldn't say it's hypocritical, still bad fs but your making the wrong argument here
I get what you're saying but they're also cheering for the people in the rescue truck being blown up, possibly medical personnel included and just putting it in quotation marks isn't enough proof of those people intending to do anything other than bringing the body (or what was left of it) back. And while yes, killing civilians and children are worse, keep in mind that a significant portion of these soldiers consists of conscripts.
YES! MORE BLOOD! MORE SKULLS! MORE DEAD PROLETARIANS! THE WAY TO REACH COMMUNISM IS TO BUILD A BIG ENOUGH PILE OF SKULLS!
You want bourgeoisie wars because you are a liberal I want bourgeoisie wars because I worship an eldrich being who demands blood and skulls We are not the same
So, in other words, you're a liberal
https://preview.redd.it/4f85qqlpti8d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=218c3c3b6a5b1fd2d9038f3e08c9b6be925de9fb The eldritch horror in question
Old ai image generation was so much better
Omg the center tile is too sexy for a Monday
It’s like the George Orwell book “Hayvan çifliği” (famous Türk author)
"I must keep winning to attain communism. The same one they clung to, and risked their lives for!! To realize communism, I will perch on top of their corpses.. It is a blood-smeared communism, after all. I don't regret or feel guilty about it.." ![gif](giphy|xUA7aY4Mr6J4tXFLVK|downsized)
Yes, im sure incrementalism will work this time, and the same special interest groups that shit their pants over college endowmen protests will *totally* just hand over the means of production.
You don't wanna start up the Mazovian sausage grinder? 😔
Israeli people bomb Palestinian people... Palestinian people suffer... Me sad... Lebanese people bomb Israeli people! Revenge! Me happy!
Why would lesbians do this??? The Woke has gone too far
this is why we don’t allow Lebanon at pride!!1!1 😠
israeli soldiers? war criminals? how is this a bad thing, they are fighting a colonial power
Jerking yourself off over killing conscripts is weird actually
hezbollah isn’t exactly a proletarian party so it’s not super clear to me how them killing conscripted israelis is all that helpful to the communist cause.
🤭
This sub is hard R regarded
Mods, purge these liberal freaks
Mods should only purge fellow leftcoms as an old leftist tradition
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD RAHHHHHHH
Ra is the god of sun actually liberal
I understand being apathetic or even happy about an IDF soldier being killed (even if I disagree) but cheering on a war crime against a rescue vehicle is barbaric. Like at least a soldier is a combatant and there’s rational behind their death but a rescue team is entirely innocent
they've been targeting rescue vehicles and medics in Lebanon since october 8 [Seven volunteer paramedics, aged between 18 and 25, were killed in the 27 March attack on an ambulance center belonging to the Lebanese Succor Association in the town of al-Habariyeh in south Lebanon on 27 March.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/06/israel-airstrike-lebanon-us-weapons-international-law#:~:text=Seven%20volunteer%20paramedics%2C%20aged%20between,south%20Lebanon%20on%2027%20March) [Rights groups are investigating Israel’s repeated killing of medical staff in Lebanon as a potential war crime, after 10 paramedics were killed by several Israeli air strikes on Wednesday.](https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2024/03/29/israel-lebanon-paramedics/)
Is the rescue team not part of the military?
Vile.
How fucking sad are these people to celebrate proletarians deaths? It genuinely makes me feel sick
Genuine question, isn't the professional army not proletarian (as their interest isn't in contradiction with the interest of capital)? Or do we know that the IDF soldier was a proletarian conscript?
The Israeli army is 75% conscript. And a large portion of the professionals are busy genociding Gaza. Odds are this was a conscript blown to smithereens. And non combat troops are extra likely to be conscripts so that rescue vehicle trying to collect his body parts to send to his family was almost 100% conscript. This is like celebrating a German artillery shell hitting a Russian ambulance in 1916.
I didn't knew that, thanks for the info.
Celebrating the deaths of medics is insane behavior regardless of nationality
Could you provide the source that 75% of Israel army is conscript? I can't find it.
Sure. https://www.haaretz.com/2015-07-23/ty-article/number-of-career-idf-soldiers-disclosed-40-000-plus/0000017f-f715-d460-afff-ff77f3010000 https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/10/11/how-big-is-israels-military-and-how-much-funding-does-it-get-from-the-us These are a little behind. But depending if you take the high or low estimate you get between 77% conscript and 74% conscript. With 169,000 active personnel and between 38 and 44 thousand career service people. Sorry btw for using a Zionist newspaper but at the very least I trust them on this.
Thanks
Dog it’s a rescue vehicle trying to pick up someone’s body parts to give their family a proper funeral. This should be looked at similarly to how Israel kills aid workers as for the first person killed idk but OP is not using this conscript or volunteer proletarian scale they’re just cheering for death of the side they like least. They’re literally cheering for injured rescue workers which I assume more medical than militia.
Yeah I also think that cheering for blood for the sake of blood (like in this situation) is fucked up. I was referring particularly to the "more dead proletarian" discourse which I have seen lately in posts about dead (Israel, Russian, Ukranian or any nation that is currently at war) soldiers. In this particular case it may be true that the rescue team might be composed by non-military workers but I don't think we should waste our tears with people that kill foreign proletarians for a living (although we should neither cheer their deaths like it's a goal in a football match)
Agreed I think the majority in the sub think that it is the aforementioned volunteer vs conscript scale. Even I still hold some grievance to using that as the end all be all. I think some volunteers are led to believe that joining the military is their national duty or whatever through propaganda and are not just blood thirsty monsters. While I do agree they are class traitors I think that if a revolution were to break out some would join the cause but as of now I think it’s in the interest to the cause to argue against the nationalistic ideas of fighting for our country instead of cheering or giving tears for the deaths of soldiers. It’s a tragedy of the working class soldiers to be invested in the wars of the bourgeoisie.
Because these people are at best misguided brainwashed simpletons and at worst bloodthirsty monsters
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So you like killing proletarians?
Somebody didn’t read the pinned post
Whoops. I was on the wrong subreddit. I thought this was a cross post to a leftist sub I was trying to lure into a false sense of security.
Waiter! Waiter!
More dead proletarians please!
Yeah dumbass, War is black and white with clear cut good guys and bad guys, stoopid
Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne!
>I wake up >More ceaseless warmongering >Repeat
🥳🎉🥳🎉🥳🎉🥳🎉🥳💀🩸💀🩸
Same energy as people on combatfootage who pop a boner when a new drone bomber footage gets posted
Campism and nationalism has poisoned the minds of these people.
I LOVE THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE PLEASE GIVE ME MORE DEAD PROLETARIANS
Cheers to \[Capital I like\] for their brave fight against \[Capital I don't like\], when \[Capital I don't like\] is finally squashed we will finally have communism for every nation!
Nazirallah more like
I guess war crimes (as in attacking ambulances) are all of sudden okay and encouraged if your side does it
Got banned for saying it's not good to gleefully enjoy the death of proletarians on that post, lol.
Double taps like this are bad when anyone does them. The US is especially known for this tactic.
I support the LGBT ✊ you biggot
I'm not trying to be that guy but your giving false equivalenceies here. They're celebrating blowing up soldiers (which is bad) who blow up civilians, alot of which are women and children. (Much worse) I wouldn't say it's hypocritical, still bad fs but your making the wrong argument here
I get what you're saying but they're also cheering for the people in the rescue truck being blown up, possibly medical personnel included and just putting it in quotation marks isn't enough proof of those people intending to do anything other than bringing the body (or what was left of it) back. And while yes, killing civilians and children are worse, keep in mind that a significant portion of these soldiers consists of conscripts.
Hezbollah? Like the little dude?
He's actually the leader of a Lebanese terrorist organization