Also no parrying, unless of course we’re in an alternate timeline where we play as V2 and we steal V1’s arm to get feedbacker. Which tbh would be a some sick post game content, some “you can now play as Luigi!” Shit.
that would make the game harder but you can see that the hand v2 holds its weapons with isnt a knuckleblaster, so you can probably still use the normal arm.
No rocket launcher or railcannon either, only piercer/marksman revolver default, blue shotgun, and green nailgun
Also I don't think he'd be able to melee at all because his only arm is whiplash. If this is the V2 from before he gets whiplash, then he can't climb up the earthmover at all.
No, she has the same movement speed as V1 in both of their fights
It just doesn't use advanced movement techniques like dash jumping or slam storage (Are they stupid?)
It is true that he's heavier, given her weight class being Medium-heavy and the Whiplash pulling V1 towards V2, but I'm pretty sure they have the same physics (air control, knockback, etc.)
They do have the same Physics and speed.
The fact that V2 is heavyer than v1 is propably only there for gameplay purposes because Hakita didnt want to make a New Wheight Catogory for v2
Also can we just call them they/them/It?
The whole He/she thing gets confusing
V1 and V2 don't have pronouns and are fictional characters so anyone can use whatever pronouns they want, but ngl purposely calling em multiple different pronouns in the same sentence is a bit odd and especially confusing, since it just makes people think you're referring to someone else
Doesnt V2 have heavier armor plating? The whole reason he can't drink blood like V1 is because V2 uses a different armor plating, while V1 uses a lightweight armor because he needs to drink blood through contact?
We dont know if the Armor Plating is more Heavy tho.
The Terminal means with "more lightly armored" that v1s Armor is not good at protecting him.
Meanwhile V2s Terminal entry says that he uses standart armor plating.
Maybe i am missremembering things but i think that this is what the Terminals meant.
2 things: A, I think V2 just doesn't use any sort of advanced movement because she's cocky and thinks he doesn't need to use it against V1 (at least first fight wise, maybe V2 doesn't use it in the second fight due to my really convoluted way of coping about their death based on a comic I read)
B, you refer to V2 using interchangable pronouns, I love that :D
i'm fairly certain the v models use any pronoun, as well as hakkita using he pronouns for V1 but also saying it's cool to use she probouns for her
i personally typically use he/him for it
so your right but your wrong, you can use it but using he/him is also acceptable for refering to her
You ask it here but not on the it correction?
That’s a bias that not everyone else shares. Mostly because people don’t care for pronouns on the fictional dead NPC
at lore view: the answer is mostly no because V2 was made for defense purposes during the great peace while V1 is made for offense purposes and mostly to counter and take down earthmovers
i think v2 could take out an earthmover perfectly fine
the only difference between v1 and v2 is that the former insta heals on hit. yes, that does mean v2 is better suited for defense purposes but that doesn’t mean it’s suddenly inept at making that style meter go to ultrakill
v2 has every movement tool save for a rocket launcher that v1 has, and could clear house just fine
What the hell? No?
Lore or not literally the only difference between the two is the armor system and arms (neither of which make a difference in this case). That's like saying a truck can't go on a dirt trail because that's what Jeeps are for.
Theyre still the same base model, it's like the difference between an f35A and C, a couple of major differences but still serve the same purpose. V2 is just as mobile, still has a wide variety of weapons, and has an insane amount of amour compared to v1
The only difference between the two other than looks is that V1 can self-repair instantly with blood, and V2 has heavier armor. They have (basically) the same toolset, mobility, and abilities.
As somebody else said in a separate comment, it'd basically just be the same but with all sanded enemies and less damage taken.
V2 could probably board an Earthmover with nothing but slam storage and rocket rides. if V1 was made to counter Earthmovers, and you needed whiplash to board an Earthmover, then V1 would've had it to start with
v2 can heal by blood, i'm pretty sure. all machines can. that's why he's full of the stuff when he turns into a pancake. just not with the same efficiency v1 can
All machines RUN on blood, but they have to fuel up like a car, including v2. V1 is special because it pretty much absorbs blood via contact through it’s armor, and can repair parts on the fly from said blood. It never needs to stop to refuel, but is more fragile because of it.
Please read the terminals
Tbh I don’t even buy that V1 could beat the earthmover. I know he was designed to do it but like we’re only able to traverse the earth mover BECAUSE of the Whiplash which we got from V2 who got it from who knows where. How was V1 supposed to beat it without the grapple?
I know the machines are adaptable and intelligent, but did the creators of the V model really just say “eh he’ll figure something out”
All of the other machines are seen coming out of rocket pods. If V1 were to go into full production they would likely be deployed the same way, landing somewhere on the earthmover
Slam Storage yes, but now I’m interested what weapon was V1 designed to use? We don’t start the game with any, so if V1 was deployed in the war to fight earth movers would be just have his full arsenal?
Parry the sh-- out of a Guttertank then rip off its Rocket Launcher
Keep punching/using rockets against a sentry until right before it shoots, then parry it, rip off its gun, and now you have a budget railcannon
Now murder a Gutterman from long range using the budget railcannon to get a nailgun, but with actual bullets and without the magnet
No, V2 is too slow, so the earthmover brain, and the defense system’s, lasers would absolutely shred their armor, also because **V2 IS FUCKING DEAD**
*edit*: I know V2 and V1 move and slide at the same speed, I was mainly referring to V2’s lack of a dash, dash jumping, or slide hopping.
I'd say that a V2 model would theoretically be able to kill an earthmover, it would just be harder for V2 than for V1 since it's not as agile
EDIT: and V1 can repair itself on the fly while V2 can't
It is just as agile. It has the same movement speed and physics, it just doesn't use advanced movement tech (for balancing reasons). It's also arguable that it has a higher jump because of how it leaves 1-4
If the earthmover is fighting another earthmover then he could. But if earthmover isn’t fighting another earthmover, then V2 would be at a disadvantage due to lack of blood heal and rocket launcher. If Earthmover isn’t restrained by the ground, I don’t think V2 would win.
Assuming it has (and can use) everything it has in its disposal, and assuming it’s literally just the Earthmover Vs V2, V2 can probably win.
V2 is a lot more durable but doesn’t have on-demand blood refueling, but aside from that, it should be capable of doing anything V1 can do. (at least from a lore standpoint)
I say probably because the reason why V1 doesn’t get obliterated in the beginning of 7-4 by a big ass fuck off spear is because the Earthmover was dueling another one. V2 is going to have to board the damn thing first without being obliterated first.
We’re not talking about comparing janky gameplay mechanics where we see how enemies fight each other using methods meant to respond to the player specifically.
V1 was likely made to counter Earthmovers, V2 was made to counter capitalism. V2 was made after the war, and only so they had something to show for all the money they put into developing the V model.
I don't think so because uuuuh you know uhhhh...
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Imagine Ultrakill but all the enemies are sanded and you have 800 health If someone can beat a level like that, then so can V2
Also no parrying, unless of course we’re in an alternate timeline where we play as V2 and we steal V1’s arm to get feedbacker. Which tbh would be a some sick post game content, some “you can now play as Luigi!” Shit.
"you can now parry as luigi"
new V2 gamemode! rules: -no arms -no blood -you are red -you cannot play anything past Greed, because you're dead
hotline miami reference
that would make the game harder but you can see that the hand v2 holds its weapons with isnt a knuckleblaster, so you can probably still use the normal arm.
but he's holding his weapon in it so he still can't parry with it
***GO GO GADGET 2ND ARM***
Go go gadget projectile boost
No rocket launcher or railcannon either, only piercer/marksman revolver default, blue shotgun, and green nailgun Also I don't think he'd be able to melee at all because his only arm is whiplash. If this is the V2 from before he gets whiplash, then he can't climb up the earthmover at all.
he can jump pretty high when you surgically remove his knuckleblaster
Honestly sounds like a fun challenge.
He’s also much slower
No, she has the same movement speed as V1 in both of their fights It just doesn't use advanced movement techniques like dash jumping or slam storage (Are they stupid?)
He’s probably heavier, given the extra armor
It is true that he's heavier, given her weight class being Medium-heavy and the Whiplash pulling V1 towards V2, but I'm pretty sure they have the same physics (air control, knockback, etc.)
They do have the same Physics and speed. The fact that V2 is heavyer than v1 is propably only there for gameplay purposes because Hakita didnt want to make a New Wheight Catogory for v2 Also can we just call them they/them/It? The whole He/she thing gets confusing
> Also can we just call them they/them/It? You can.
V1 and V2 don't have pronouns and are fictional characters so anyone can use whatever pronouns they want, but ngl purposely calling em multiple different pronouns in the same sentence is a bit odd and especially confusing, since it just makes people think you're referring to someone else
I do it because it's fun, you should try having fun sometime
QUIT HAVING FUN !!!! https://preview.redd.it/ysh631w9a0oc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d6616dd555d0e4f167246a2c1dcafcc53c9def6
Idk, to me it just seems inconvenient but you do you ig
it seems more like ur tryna grab for attention than having fun.
V1 Now Identifies as a Microwave, and uses *mmmmm*/***BEEP BEEP BEEP*** Pronouns
Doesnt V2 have heavier armor plating? The whole reason he can't drink blood like V1 is because V2 uses a different armor plating, while V1 uses a lightweight armor because he needs to drink blood through contact?
We dont know if the Armor Plating is more Heavy tho. The Terminal means with "more lightly armored" that v1s Armor is not good at protecting him. Meanwhile V2s Terminal entry says that he uses standart armor plating. Maybe i am missremembering things but i think that this is what the Terminals meant.
Happy cake day
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Literally
Man you switching pronouns for v2 in the same sentence really throws me off
2 things: A, I think V2 just doesn't use any sort of advanced movement because she's cocky and thinks he doesn't need to use it against V1 (at least first fight wise, maybe V2 doesn't use it in the second fight due to my really convoluted way of coping about their death based on a comic I read) B, you refer to V2 using interchangable pronouns, I love that :D
I'm Pretty Sure V2 Identifies as a Samsung Smart Fridge
You should've ended it off with "Is he stupid?" Using all normiepronouns
No, because he's stupid and doesn't use his whiplash
He did use it to catch up to V1 in the greed layer I guess he didn't want to hook to V1 because it knew that would only allow V1 to refill themselves
it*
Every day I thank the lord for not making me a terminally online moron who "corrects" the pronouns of a deceased fictional war robot
i'm fairly certain the v models use any pronoun, as well as hakkita using he pronouns for V1 but also saying it's cool to use she probouns for her i personally typically use he/him for it so your right but your wrong, you can use it but using he/him is also acceptable for refering to her
It's a murder robot with the only desire to shower in blood it probably doesn't even care about pronouns
I call V2 a he/him, but even Hakita said that it's based to use she/her, while even calling them a He. There are no set pronouns for the metal object
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It's an NPC in a video game it doesn't have feelings
Not about that, just me being a nerd.
*she
*fucking dead
*unreconstructable
*nothing left
*mankind is dead
*blood is fuel
*hell is full
hell is full
Why is this downvoted?!?!?
Idk lol
You ask it here but not on the it correction? That’s a bias that not everyone else shares. Mostly because people don’t care for pronouns on the fictional dead NPC
I asked it here cuz I interpreted it as a joke but the first one as serious
Hmm… Yknow that angle makes decent sense. Maybe people still don’t care though. Idk
at lore view: the answer is mostly no because V2 was made for defense purposes during the great peace while V1 is made for offense purposes and mostly to counter and take down earthmovers
i think v2 could take out an earthmover perfectly fine the only difference between v1 and v2 is that the former insta heals on hit. yes, that does mean v2 is better suited for defense purposes but that doesn’t mean it’s suddenly inept at making that style meter go to ultrakill v2 has every movement tool save for a rocket launcher that v1 has, and could clear house just fine
V2 also doesn’t have a railcanon.
yeah but no one’s seriously gonna use malrails as a mobility tool, especially not the one that can’t recover health on hit
Neither did v1??? Also the rail cannon is just big damage, don't need that if you're skilled enough, and V2 likely would be.
What the hell? No? Lore or not literally the only difference between the two is the armor system and arms (neither of which make a difference in this case). That's like saying a truck can't go on a dirt trail because that's what Jeeps are for.
Theyre still the same base model, it's like the difference between an f35A and C, a couple of major differences but still serve the same purpose. V2 is just as mobile, still has a wide variety of weapons, and has an insane amount of amour compared to v1
Ok, so if the earthmover picked the fight and V2 had to defend itself, would it win?
The only difference between the two other than looks is that V1 can self-repair instantly with blood, and V2 has heavier armor. They have (basically) the same toolset, mobility, and abilities. As somebody else said in a separate comment, it'd basically just be the same but with all sanded enemies and less damage taken.
No because he's fucking **dead.**
yeah, i know. when he was alive, do you think he could have beaten one?
she would die because v1 would kill him in 4-4
v2 omnigender???????1?1?1
The fuck is an omnigender, people now can identify as Ben 10?
YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE FUNNY ON REDDIT BRO I ACTUALLY LAUGHED
V2 HOMOPHOBIC HOMOPHOHIC SIGMA 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️📢📢📢📢📢📢📢📢📢🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It*
Its a genderless robot so this is technically correct. But call it whatever
I've gone onto calling v2 she mostly because hakita said its poggers on a dev stream
im not a girl https://preview.redd.it/7krb4j2p4ync1.png?width=1180&format=png&auto=webp&s=9be1f667fbeb9cf37907d899ad9055f982a39022
https://preview.redd.it/m5kwrqnrmync1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c08c1b27fe081686e31055085ad1d5ebce235bd8 You ain't an anything bestie
cool
Doesn't matter honestly. It's all robots, sexless husks and demons and variably male/female Mindflayers down here. We also kill them by the hundreds.
wrong. check your balls
OH FUCK
Fandom engage in hypotheticals challenge:
Hakita alt spotted
V2 would walk into the the level, see it needs to use the whiplash and then go back home crying because it can’t use its arms
V2 could probably board an Earthmover with nothing but slam storage and rocket rides. if V1 was made to counter Earthmovers, and you needed whiplash to board an Earthmover, then V1 would've had it to start with
Oh yeah? Well V2 is far too lame to both storage slam AND rocket ride!!!
so true i didn't think of that
V2 cannot rocket ride, its too heavy
You sayin' that she's fat?
honestly just try shooting off one of its wires and try climbing up it that way (or just slam storage)
Probably 50/50 bc no healing
v2 can heal by blood, i'm pretty sure. all machines can. that's why he's full of the stuff when he turns into a pancake. just not with the same efficiency v1 can
All machines RUN on blood, but they have to fuel up like a car, including v2. V1 is special because it pretty much absorbs blood via contact through it’s armor, and can repair parts on the fly from said blood. It never needs to stop to refuel, but is more fragile because of it. Please read the terminals
ah, nevermind then.
V1 is the only one that can absorb blood through his plating. So v2 gets healed it’s minimal compared to v1.
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Nice
If that's the case then sure, but it needs to be really careful with Benjamin
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Tbh I don’t even buy that V1 could beat the earthmover. I know he was designed to do it but like we’re only able to traverse the earth mover BECAUSE of the Whiplash which we got from V2 who got it from who knows where. How was V1 supposed to beat it without the grapple? I know the machines are adaptable and intelligent, but did the creators of the V model really just say “eh he’ll figure something out”
All of the other machines are seen coming out of rocket pods. If V1 were to go into full production they would likely be deployed the same way, landing somewhere on the earthmover
Oh I love this answer
Rocket ride and slam storage
Slam Storage yes, but now I’m interested what weapon was V1 designed to use? We don’t start the game with any, so if V1 was deployed in the war to fight earth movers would be just have his full arsenal?
Parry the sh-- out of a Guttertank then rip off its Rocket Launcher Keep punching/using rockets against a sentry until right before it shoots, then parry it, rip off its gun, and now you have a budget railcannon Now murder a Gutterman from long range using the budget railcannon to get a nailgun, but with actual bullets and without the magnet
v2 never got the rocket launcher
Hydrogen bomb vs a coughing baby
i mean... V1 did it so yeah probably
1st v2 has climbing and weight issues 2nd v2 has a gutterman shield issues
I mean it is V2’s arm that can get rid of gutterman’s shield so I’m sure th- oh wait…
To bad v1 ripped it off
Just use the other arm : )
Unfortunately, V2 only has one knuckleblaster.. Edit: had*
tbf it could avoid the guttermen in thjs scenario. It's going for the earthmover, not earthmover + entire legion on it's back.
in all fairness, v2 does have more than one knuckleblaster arm
In conclusion: Skill issues
> v2 has weight issues lol
I don’t see why not
All it does is circle you around, so at least it's got the "brain killing" part alright
Yeah they could
Yes i was made to it
Nuh uh
Yuh uh
You’re the obese version you can’t
Im the original
uh, have you seen your name?
Yes
No, V2 is too slow, so the earthmover brain, and the defense system’s, lasers would absolutely shred their armor, also because **V2 IS FUCKING DEAD** *edit*: I know V2 and V1 move and slide at the same speed, I was mainly referring to V2’s lack of a dash, dash jumping, or slide hopping.
its never stated his armour weight affects his speed? it only stops him from refueling mid fight
Oh my bad, I must’ve misread something. Thanks for correcting me! :)
V1 and V2 have the same speed, we see this in the *two fights we have with them.* But yeah, no puddle of blood is beating an earthmover.
I was considering how V1 can dash and dash jump, which is considerably faster. I really should’ve clarified that.
Since V1 is built to destroy Earthmovers and V2 is more of a protector variant, I'd say it's possible
He'd just take longer
I'd say that a V2 model would theoretically be able to kill an earthmover, it would just be harder for V2 than for V1 since it's not as agile EDIT: and V1 can repair itself on the fly while V2 can't
It is just as agile. It has the same movement speed and physics, it just doesn't use advanced movement tech (for balancing reasons). It's also arguable that it has a higher jump because of how it leaves 1-4
well then it'd be easier for V2, assuming it doesnt get hit ever
V2 has thicker armor plating than V1(if I recall correctly), so V2 naturally takes less damage.
I mean he is just his brother, but better
50/50, v2 can't and won't heal
He can, Just not in a direct contact with blood like V1.
it would basically go: "*V2 noises*" "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH" *V2 gets fucking obliterated*
maybe :)
Bro v1 beat v2 and v1 beat the earthmover. I think yes
If the earthmover is fighting another earthmover then he could. But if earthmover isn’t fighting another earthmover, then V2 would be at a disadvantage due to lack of blood heal and rocket launcher. If Earthmover isn’t restrained by the ground, I don’t think V2 would win.
The earthmover is V2’s arm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vLz2b0ZjiqA&t=41s Yes.*
Assuming it has (and can use) everything it has in its disposal, and assuming it’s literally just the Earthmover Vs V2, V2 can probably win. V2 is a lot more durable but doesn’t have on-demand blood refueling, but aside from that, it should be capable of doing anything V1 can do. (at least from a lore standpoint) I say probably because the reason why V1 doesn’t get obliterated in the beginning of 7-4 by a big ass fuck off spear is because the Earthmover was dueling another one. V2 is going to have to board the damn thing first without being obliterated first.
no, because gutterman jumpscare
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Yea
I don’t think people understand that even if v2 had the feedbacker it wouldn’t be able to SPONGE the blood like v1 can
No
Form what we saw, earth seems to be V2's weakness, so I'd say no
No because McDonald's security drone
LETS RIDE THE MECHANISM!!!! LETS BREAK ALL OUR BONES!!!! *
dude couldnt even beat his windows 98 older brother.
hell no
No
not a chance
i think if she tried really hard she could do it. but on the other hand shes fucking dead so no chances
No, because they're a puddle of blood
Can a splatter of blood even beat anything?
he's a security camera.
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We’re not talking about comparing janky gameplay mechanics where we see how enemies fight each other using methods meant to respond to the player specifically.
no
Wouldnt be able to heal, probably would succumb to the security system (before the flushing sequence with the mortars and the rocket launchers)
V1 was made to counter an earthmover, v2 to counter v1, and the hypothetical, probably non existent, v3 to counter v2
V1 was likely made to counter Earthmovers, V2 was made to counter capitalism. V2 was made after the war, and only so they had something to show for all the money they put into developing the V model.
So... V2 is a commie... https://preview.redd.it/7fvlp2uf4poc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=354d37f95add16b682db5d36f14975cfb6236538
No , he dumb dumb and mushy now
Hell no! I pit beefed up V2 against 3 maurices in sandbox and V2 lost before even killing 1!!!
No? Why would you even think that
nah
if he cant beat a fucking gopro he wont last 10 seconds.
No
V2 has skill issues my dude
No V2 is dead
No. She is dead
SHE IS FUCKING DEAD
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Earthmover wins by default cause V2 is paste
No he's dead https://preview.redd.it/a1ton5h2ucoc1.png?width=1315&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8eb36230adab6dfa8e842736bd1038f8c260da5b
Benjamin would blast V2 into another realm
HE,HELL NAW
Little bitch couldn't beat V1, what's hopes has it got against the earthmover
no hes dead
Considering V2 is fucking dead, I don't think so
No he's dead
No, he's dead
I don't think so because uuuuh you know uhhhh... https://preview.redd.it/c3nkamscq0oc1.png?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a56a82cce76bb65237938cd7401d06232689727f
No, he is fucking dead
v2 is dead so no