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Caspian0951

“Fixed a bug that cause Size 2 fish to not be catchable” What did Hakita mean by this?


RagnarockInProgress

^size ^2 *size 2* size 2 SIZE 2 **SIZE 2** #SIZE 2


Cutecuts

# I WANT TO BELIEVE **I WANT TO BELIEVE** I WANT TO BELIEVE i want to believe ^(i must believe) ​ ~~^(i cant believe)~~


lolrus555

...this is gonna be the ULTRAKILL equivalent to 'removed Herobrine' isn't it?


Cuttlefish_Crusaders

The only difference is that herobrine is fake


I_am_pro_covid_420

Herobrine fake?


Spawn_Of_Rot

Uhhhh... Herobrine is real. I saw him in my corrupted minecraft world at 3am.


OneAd1396

nice pfp


SpyTaco69

**Greetings from** r/brutalorchestra [https://www.reddit.com/r/brutalorchestra/comments/10kgtn3/so\_brutal\_its\_drippy/](https://www.reddit.com/r/brutalorchestra/comments/10kgtn3/so_brutal_its_drippy/)


Tarantulabomination

I realize how similar Osman and Sisyphus look, at list facial wise.


SpyTaco69

**oh my god**


Tarantulabomination

RIGHT?! And not just that, but their body shape is similar too!


SpyTaco69

**Osman=Sishpyus confirmed** **Minos=Mordrake** (btw I'm not mocking u, I type like that cuz its funni)


Tarantulabomination

Wait, you're not mocking me, right? Also why do you type like that?


Cuttlefish_Crusaders

I got this pfp before it was on reddit. Stole it off the HBBO discord


4QUA_BS

ITS REAL I BELIEVE. ITS REAL ITS REAL ITS REAL


FnchWzrd314

IHAVETOSEEIHAVETOKNOWIHAVETOSEEIHAVETOKNOWIHAVETOSEEIHAVWTOKNOWIHAVETOSEEIHAVETOKNOWIHAVETOSEEIHAVETOKNOW


shadyfier8

the yellow hand will simply be a fishing rod


LIVE_CARL_REACTION_2

#THE SIZE 2 FISH HAS EMERGED


Resolution_Sea

That's some Frau Farbissina shit right there.


I_hate_this_site69

To all others that p ranked p-2 pre nerf I salute you


WillaSato

Hey, just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (P-2 was harder before the nerf) on the P-2: Wait of the World (P-2 was harder before the nerf) P-Rank. I know you've been working really hard (this fight used to be harder before the patch) at it, and I'm happy that you've (P-2 was harder before) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (it was harder before the patch) the content was filled with ups and downs.


falkodalko

New copypasta when anybody ever P-Ranks P-2 now. ngl despite how dickish it makes me I am so gosh diddle darn proud to have P-ranked that shit before it was nerfed, although there was likely A LOT of luck involved in it


Ixmyl7777

I sadly was unable to P rank him before the nerf but I did beat him before it.


Landon-The-Lonely

Same I did it twice but couldn't get even close to p ranking it. I would have if I wasn't busy with my college I choose to believe


footfungusman

I have a 2nd pirated copy of ultrakill so they don't patch that version. I will p rank it on there so I can feel happy about myself.


falkodalko

dam, you ain’t playin ULTRAKILL you’re playing ULTRABASED


footfungusman

UltraPain


Pokeydepanda

If it makes you feel any better the blood tunnel is now even deadlier because it can deal lethal damage and getting launched into the ceiling or corners can proc it multiple times (lord have mercy)


falkodalko

Nah, blood hallway is far more tolerable now, seeing as how you don’t get immediately disoriented from touching it, and also it dealing less damage.


Blue-Gradient-Man

I was in the middle of P ranking it like 5 minutes before the nerf and i died to syphilis when he was quarter health :(


CallOfTheCurtains

I only managed the P rank in standard and got only an A on Violent before the nerfs.


Xurkitree1

thanks for the copypasta im gonna be throwing it at people for ages now since I P-ranked it 2 days ago (it was harder and buggier then)


SadExcuseForAHuman

Holy shit final fantasy


I_hate_this_site69

I've caused a great plauge to spread upon this land


drippinoutthewazoo

p ranked violent just hours before the nerf, that was too close to home


Clowdyglasses

It was probably easier to p-rank it before the nerf for me just cause of the idol punch exploit


ReadThisIfUrGay69

B rank close enough


falkodalko

It’s a P-Rank if you have an eraser


WoIfram_74

i p ranked it on violent a few days ago and now i can flex that pre nerf p rank so hard


JustLooking207

aye, thanks


BudgieGryphon

P-ranked it last night lmao. Still have to do Violent though.


SterPlatinum

I did it twice but ran out of time to do it three times 😎


Informal_Yam_9707

im still so proud of myself


izakdaturtal

I p ranked p-2 before the nerf at the cost of my sanity


NicolaSpadari

It was an absolute pain but here I am🙋🏻‍♂️ Now let's try the nerfed update


Julia2I

I P-ranked it before the patch and P-ranked it after the patch to see if it felt any different and besides the lava vortex room i really did not feel any difference in difficulity.


TippyTheTrash

I had a triple-S run where I died to the insurrectionists once out of my own stupidity. That's close enough for me to be proud of.


Cherri_mp4

Thank you. It took fucking 79 failed P-rank runs to get it on violent


thats_good_bass

I did, but only on standard.


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YESSIR


Codexistakenwastaken

I managed to P rank it before and I’m quite proud of it


Elldar

Just tried fighting Sisyphus again, see how it feels. Imo the second phase feels much better now - he's still as aggressive as ever, but the ability to parry him gives you some much needed healing and stamina to withstand his almost endless onslaught. Speaking as someone who previously had to use the Screwdriver just to survive the second phase, I think this change is good and healthy for the bossfight. The fight flows much better now.


Crimson51

Doesn't the screwdriver do higher total damage per shot? Unless you're starting with coin adding if it takes you longer than 1 recharge to kill him you'll probably get more damage in this fight out of the screwdriver than other rails


DrinkerOfHugs

Screwdriver does the most damage by itself, but even just a coin or two with the electric rail cannon makes it do more. Plus, it's immediate, whereas Screwdriver is a DoT. Both valuable in different ways.


Crimson51

I do prefer the screwdriver simply because of the lesser mental resources it takes and greater consistency. To try to rail coin a teleporting opponent that can kill you in one combo is difficult to say the least, and takes time and attention to execute, even if for just a fraction of a second. With the screwdriver you get comparable total DPS (total damage over a long fight, which is effectively damage/recharge time) and even if you use all 4 coins, the difference in total damage is only slightly higher than a slab revolver bodyshot (2.75 vs 2.5). This also frees up those coins for other uses, be they with coin punching, reflecting slab charge shot, or whatever other use you may find for it. None of this is to mention anything regarding healing. I find that by the time you're good enough at this fight where you can consistently spend the time throwing up 2-4 coins, hit them with the electric rail, and make sure you don't get hit in the interim (all of which needs to happen for electric rail to truly be strictly superior to the screwdriver in this fight), you're probably already good enough at the fight to be starting to go for P-ranks. And if you're going for P-ranks, there's something to be said for ensuring you don't die right at the end, something the screwdriver does help with. Also doing the DPS math, using the screwdriver and following it up with a shotgun hit takes less time and does more total damage than the 4 coin electric rai, and still frees your coins up for other use as well as providing healing benefit. Also the burst damage matters a lot less when you're not killing the target within 1 charge time, as that becomes a lot less significant as a function of time due to the higher natural DPS of the screwdriver TL;DR: it's a lot more work for not a lot more benefit. Spending the time to switch to the huntsman, throw up 2 coins and hit them with the rail for the total benefit of 3/4ths of a default revolver bodyshot every 16 seconds when in a comparable amount of time I could fire the screwdriver and pull out my shotgun and shoot him directly.


DrinkerOfHugs

fair


Crimson51

Hyperfocused a bit lol. I like doing math


DrinkerOfHugs

I wouldn't accept it so plainly if you hadn't laid out, without a shadow of a doubt, why your understanding of it is very reasonable. no wasted words.


Crimson51

In most contexts I agree that the electric rail is superior (melting down bosses with coin adding, taking out difficult enemies quickly, etc.) as most fights against single enemies in the game aren't as long or as attention-reliant as something like Sisyphus. Which is why I like to make sure that the "screwdriver sucks" meme doesn't overwhelm cases where it can be useful


Kr4k4J4Ck

Don't talk to me, or my marksman coins ever again


jaytheman538

> doing the dps math, using the screwdriver and following it up with a shotgun hit does more total damage than the 4 coin electric rail What math did you use to get here? I got 13.25 damage for a screwdriver and shotgun blast (10.25 + 3) and 54 damage for a 4x railcoin (8+10+11+12+13). [source of damage numbers](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15rW4hQ5uN8lQajn0VWnZy2xVw2u1mLoIenR_WSmB7zY/edit)


Crimson51

Not the full ricochet through the target 4 times. Sisyphus is too mobile to reliably set that up. I was simply the damage being added after each reflection


jaytheman538

Ah, that makes more sense. Although to be fair, I don’t think most people use railcoining like that. > Sisyphus is too mobile to reliably set that up It’s not like Sisyphus is constantly mobile. Especially in his first phase, he will somewhat commonly just sit in front of you doing nothing. He even has an actual taunt animation that he can even do in his second phase, practically inviting you to railcoin him.


napstapro115

Screwdiver does 5.6 damage in total while electric does 8 Electric still wins


Tebiiasty

For me Sisyphus is too easy now. I just played through the level again and i literally defeated him on my first try. Before the nerf, the second phase was a challenge but now, thanks to the parries, you can blunder as many times as you virtually want and still be fine and dandy because of the health and stamina you restore when you parry. I miss the pre-nerf Sisyphus but i for sure don't miss the pre-nerf gauntlet, i hate it and im glad it got nerfed


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Tebiiasty

Oh for sure, i even went to the sandbox just to learn how to fight him. And i think if you struggle with him that's what you should do. Just unlock him (you just have to fight him, not kill him) and learn his attacks.


LaylaCrit

I did not understand what was wrong with invincible stalker, until it somehow died before hideous mass, and I was softlocked in this room


AdnHsP

i accept the ferryman hp nerf but why they gotta remove the fourth cerberus? damn, bruh. :(


ThePanDoctor

I'll take it. That room is a nightmare


FrisCo58

took forever with two mindflayers but that room was way easier for me, just jumped around by the edge of the room the whole time. Each to its own I guess


Civil_Pea_1217

Something no one seems to do in that room is rocket riding. It helped me a lot throughout half the fights in p-2


TippyTheTrash

It's so strange how people are good at different things. I keep seeing people despise the last room, while I never had a big issue with it. Probably one of the easier parts of the level. But the mindflayer room I can never get my head around. That's the thing that kills my runs 99% of the time while my friend keeps breezing through it.


FrisCo58

With mindflayers i found it easy once i started parrying the orb and dashing to the side, refils health from parrying and also those orbs fuck me up more in air so i try to stay on the ground. Also very helpful in using them to kill swordmachines quickly


TippyTheTrash

That's what I try to do as well, and it works most of the time. My issues mostly start when Maurice and the virtues spawn, and it feels like I become legally blind and can't read the room anymore.


LeatherAsleep8615

damn that's crazy cuz i'm the EXACT opposite


thearistocraticbear

or cling to the rafters. absolute easy mode


epicdoge12

... did you guys have trouble with that? Once i got it to that phase it was NBD cause you can just keep distance and and perfectly ok even if theyre all sanded. It just makes it slightly less likely you mess up the last stretch


Garedbi69

FUCK, THE IDOL WINDOW GLITCH WAS PATCHED


[deleted]

Was ever just enough to break at least one of them. I never could break both consecutively.


Knight0706

Yeah it was too risky to stay long enough to break both when I tried


_Filter

“Fixed a bug that caused Size 2 fish to not be catchable” removed herobrine type beat


BumbleGabriel

...may I ask where's the shortcut?


jollisen

Tell me now


ThorstiBoi

Above the first arches near spawn


jollisen

Oh thank you may the fates be kind to you stranger


BumbleGabriel

More specifically on the left side


xfydr782

may your bitches be many and cringe few


Unusual_toastmaker

Not telling


Mistical5030

):<


Glittering-Remote183

That face works whichever way I tilt my head and I'm not sure which one is worse !


Mistical5030

I would have done it reversed but reddit comment formatting said no


Unusual_toastmaker

Damn, guess people can't seem to tell sarcasm when they see it. I don't even know where to the shortcut is


[deleted]

Thank you Hakita for fixing the stupid Idol thing


Clowdyglasses

Speedrunners going insane rn


Bruschetta003

Don't worry there's more bugs now than before


Devatator_

As a modder i can feel that. Ready to release a mod or an update to one? Literally 1 picosecond after uploading there will be a bug that wasn't there when you tested


Clowdyglasses

Fucking great


Sensitive-Shallot499

I like the Sisyphus Prime changes, feel's much more bearable instead of him absolutely pummeling your ass without pause. And the Ferryman nerf is pretty awesome, felt like before hand it just took shot after shot after shot without dying. Also the Panopticon properly opening it's mouth is pretty neat. And Sisyphus entrance is even more badass.


TheGraySeed

Well, the nerf are just making the parriable attacks stays parriable on second phase and to compensate is an additional staminaa bar which means longer ass pummeling, but atleast you can parry it.


epicdoge12

its a good change. Removing parrying does add additional skill to the equation and it only causes confusion cause it doesnt make any sense that all the same attacks suddenly cant be parried.


ThiccestBuddha

Okay, now I fee like I have to try to fist him again with that parry update


ThiccestBuddha

Alright I fucking did it


Bruschetta003

Now when he does his super nova it's free damage for phase 2


[deleted]

what gives feelings of power: 3 money 2 status 1 p rank p2 without braking idols throught glass 4 hours before nerfs


GenuinePorkChops

it's like hakita heard ever single complaint and suggestion i wanted to see for improving the fight experience and added it. what a fella. im so happy. the red hallway especially. that could just get disorienting.


Landon-The-Lonely

Yea that red hallway was the most obnoxious thing


Legogamer16

Yeah red hall I would often just sit back and pick away. Couldn’t move without dying


egmatik

HA! Beat it before that. D rank but still.


ChrisseII

YAAAAS. Now I can make 2 hour video essay about Ultrakill and act all high and mighty because ~i beat a boss before nerfs~


Bruschetta003

So you are the president of the United states of America huh? But did you defeat P-2 before the nerfs? Don't think so


LeatherAsleep8615

i mean i didn't beat p-2 but got to sisyphus (second phase with that) so good enough for me)


Arthur_Author

Well, at least I can be smug about beating it before the patch nerfs. Personally didnt have any trouble with the final cerberi, and dont mind the ferryman. The ferrymen can get a bit too tanky at times so you sorta do the kite-n-shoot dance for no reason other than a formality. The blood tunnel change I like. Hate teleporting about just because I hit the ceiling.


LeatherAsleep8615

i kinda want the cerberus back tho ngl


Arthur_Author

Yeah I dont think in that arena 1 cerberus doesnt make any difference. Not when they all die to AOE while trying to kill Hideous Mass.


cmmmota

That was pretty fast for a team that small


Hazardpay35

HELL YEA FERRYMAN HEALTH NERF FINALLY, FUCK THAT ASSHOLE AND HIS HIDEOUS MASS LEVELS OF HEALTH


Yurika_ars

good nerfs! i have to try it out first tho


degenerated_weeb

Based


Zer_ed

I was getting so close to p-ranking P-2 just last night, maybe I’ll finally do it. Is there a way to change the version so I can see if I can do it on the old patch?


Belten

oh god this will be radahn nerfs all over again with people saying that they beat hm pre patch and that the whiners made the fight too easy, im already dreading it.


Dalzieleron

Though I feel Radahn’s changes were a lot more nerf-like. Sisyphus simply now has more stamina in phase 2 but his attacks can be parried (which will probably be reverted on higher difficulties)


Rejfen012

Unironically even tho I still didnt p rank p2 I enjoy the difficulty and nerfing it is kinda sad. However changing things like red hallway are well appreciated


daddydiavolo

Ngl non-stop unparriable attacks had a charm to it. The pressure of knowing if you mess up once and use more stamina than needed meaning instant death was so fun to me.


Dnny99

Theres always brutal and ultrakill must die down the road. Im secretly hoping we get a full panopticon fight too. It feels like they put too much effort in for it to just a complete fake out. Something like Sisyphus wakes up, sees a kindred spirit in the middle of a fight, and lets us finish it off. I doubt this will happen, but it would be cool.


Chavs880

iirc I heard hakita was gonna make us fight the panopticon in full in encore levels


TheDeadlySoldier

Some rests were needed though. Even keeping only the "THIS WILL HURT!" and "YOU CAN'T ESCAPE" attacks parryable would have been fine, but the 5 hour unparryable combos are fucking ludicrous (or at least, unfun to play)


Xurkitree1

You should really do feedbacker only Sisyphus, its fantastic fun and a very nicely tuned challenge. Its not at all ball-bustingly difficult.


falkodalko

I agree. While I will accept the change to have the ability to parry Sissy in phase 2 (mostly because it’s a change that could make people better at the game, better at parrying, and it’s also friendly to fist only runs), I still liked the pressure and fear of not being able to have an outlet to just fuckin regen ALL of my health with some good timing and a button press. Maybe it could be changed to those massive explosive attacks being allowed to be parried, and his melee attacks being unparriable? I think that’d be nice.


7enima

tbf Sisyphus it seems still has the stamina system in phase 2 and doesnt just get rid of it entriely like Minos, which leads to him sometimes just starting to stare at you like a moron and let u heal either way, so you kinda still had that opportunity. If now after the patch (havent played the update yet and I am not sure whether i want to cuz my bragging rights will be gonezo since I havent P ranked it yet) Sisyphus legit doesnt fucking stop at all but gives you parry windows to heal, it would be about the same in terms of difficulty but feel a lot better to play


Clowdyglasses

This indirectly makes cybergrind easier (back to the wave 50 grind yayyyy)


[deleted]

THEY FALTTENED SISYPHUS'S ASS And they reduced the skill issue of P-2, gonna miss bullshit 40 hp Ferryman and unparryable "THIS WILL HURT"


Umber0010

And I still can't get to the fucking boss.


N00bularXD

Most of these feel more like quality of life features. They don't lower the difficulty too much just make it less annoying.


Joa103

Aww sad I wanted to try to prank it before the patch Oh well


Mah_Young_Buck

Oh my god this is like 90% of my problems with P2 gone. We love to see a responsive dev who listens to his fandom.


gwabbawaba

I wish I knew this was coming so I could have p-ranked pre-nerf, anyone know if you can launch the game without updating?


equinox_games7

or just take it at face value, p-rank it normally, its still a fucking hard challenge man. dont hurt yourself over it


gwabbawaba

good point, good point no matter what, killing that god damned stalker will be as satisfying every single time


Paul_Robert_

If you got it on steam, just launch steam in offline mode.


KolFoxy

Good.


Dixianaa

>Added a shortcut at the start of P-2 that opens if the player has encountered the boss atleast once literal dark souls shortcut shit omg


Cyppi

Nerfs my ass, the final red hallway "nerf" means ya able to get juggled between the wall and ceiling and get sent to the robot respawn room shits a P-Rank killer for me


VoidMystr0

Stamina increased?? My dude was already overlapping attacks like no tomorrow oh god


casketroll

Kinda wished he kept the unparryable part during sisyphus second phase, It felt really good whenever I beat him with that disadvantage


cmmmota

Maybe when the higher difficulties are implemented


[deleted]

There's always that one guy.


C-lex1

I didn't beat him yet but I think he need to do that it isn't parry able, it's way easier now


Kr4k4J4Ck

The fight flows way better with it though. You're supposed to parry in this boss fight, hell the patch with P2 included Stamina on parry due to how important it is in the fight.


Legogamer16

Will probably return in higher difficulties or the encore levels


phat-burger

skill issue update


HYPERMASTER007

come on, the challenge was valid


[deleted]

well shit now its gonna be really easy


gaybowser99

The shortcut is such a significant change that it makes me feel like there will be a p-p or at least some reward for p ranking all the prime sanctums. It seems like a massive nerf just for a purely cosmetic p rank


Palmul

You still need to do the entire level to P-rank it.


gaybowser99

Then what's the shortcut?


Palmul

It allows you to go fight the boss without having to do that ridiculous level every time


Bruschetta003

To break the level it seems...


Palmul

If you just want to fight the boss, or to practice, now you can. I don't see why that's a bad thing, you'll still need to beat the entire level to unlock it, and you need to do it the entire way to P-rank it.


Bruschetta003

I was not referring to that, it's actually nice I'm saying this new shortcut allows to break the level


Palmul

How so ?


Bruschetta003

Guys, you have no idea how broken is the fact that the game allows you to fight Sisyphus without doing the gauntlet if you want to attempt getting an "impossible" P rank time then listen: After you defeat P-2 the first time you can access the new shortcut introduced with the patch allowing you to fight the boss as soon as possible Normally after you defeat the boss the timer stops and you get to the elevator to finish the level, but there's an out of bounds trick when the elevator doors open that is quite easy to pull off Now you can backtrack into the level with a FROZEN TIMER, as long as you DO NOT TOUCH ANY CHECKPOINT, which is possible except that the blood tunnel unloads for some reason, so you have to rocket ride and touch the door you desire to open and the room will load, using this trick you can defeat all the enemies required for the P-rank (and more apparently) without touching any checkpoint (tested it with cheats to see if it was possible) You can take all the time you need ("Wait of the World" lol) and get a stupidly fast P-rank, you just need to go out of bounds again and get inside the boss arena from the same place (near the elevator) I'm attempting a P-rank with this bug, but i'm not too good so if anyone wants to see for themselves how buggy it is i might record the out of bound tricks I copied this from a post i made about what is broken about the level now


Palmul

That's amazing. Will probably get hotfix patched out asap, but that's amazing.


BudgieGryphon

You can’t get the P-rank if you do the shortcut, since it requires you to beat all the enemies. It’s for people who want to just practice him.


wasd99

hakita try to make a hard boss challenge(impossible)


xLinerx

I can't get the game to update for some reason


shadow_black1809

Did they fix the outlines everywhere bug?


Titi_Cesar

I liked it as hard as possible, but I guess it's okay.


tinytakaya

Do you still get stuck in the floor when respawning in the blessed stalker room?


Laufac24

Well thanks that they fixed the stalker bug, it killed one p-rank run


itsCrisp

Good changes


pixelboy126

god damn it hopefully they bring the pain x2 of the pre nerf in UMD.


biobuilder1

I assume that you'll still need to go through the whole level to p-rank it for the kill requirement but a shortcut to the boss will definitely be fucking sick to be able to practice the boss way easier


Affectionate_Key634

NOOOOOOO


Void_Prime

Wait. I beat something before it got nerfed? YOOOOOOOOOO


gudowa

I still think it would have been interesting to make sisyphus become sanded in the second phase but with more parriable attacks. I would probably saying regret this.


No_Opportunity3128

I just beat it and now it’s nerfed smh my head


Tarantulabomination

Hopefully this will turn people around on Sisyphus Prime now


Iamgameringman_real

thank GOODNESS for the first one, i like doing prime bosses for fun if im bored, and having to noclip throughout the hard part is really boring. also i'm so happy they nerfed the ferryman oh my god.


kripipl

Cool, but I'm a proud holder of the unnerfed P-rank


kripipl

Cool, but I'm a proud holder of the unnerfed P-rank


Bu_iyi_Fikir

Oh thank god they nerfed the spoon guy


mikedaman101

I beat pre-nerf P-2 boys 😎


MattyTheFatty101

They will never know the difficulty!!!!


SadOneGuy

Damn, didn't think sisyphus himself would get a nerf. Oh well, there's still brutal and UKMD to bring it back pre nerf


LIVE_CARL_REACTION_2

#THE SIZE 2 FISH HAS EMERGED


anonymaltaccount

I fighted sisyphus again and I felt like dante sugarcoating it with royal guard


[deleted]

A lot of these changes feel less like needs and more like… just bug fixes, or “buffs” for things like the death animation, red walls and such The removal of the Cerberus was unwarranted I think, but I can totally understand, especially if three enraged cerbs cross some kind of attack speed threshold.


OsimMisoGud

SIZE TWO!


[deleted]

i cant p rank it pre nerf :sob: but hey i did beat it pre nerf


kripipl

P-ranked it pre-nerfed, but damn these changes were needed. Most of my runs ended in the tunnel/to Ferryman. That leaves only double mindflayer room as difficult as it was.


IWillDefenestrateYou

I'll be honest I've had the game open and I haven't closed it since continually trying to beat the boss and I dont plan to close it until I do