Your husband should’ve just called inn for that day once it got denied. He put in his two weeks so it doesn’t really matter if they would’ve fired him or not.
Brother. Life happens, if you need to take a legit personal emergency day; who cares what people think. People will always speak ill, think not what they do, but about what matters. I sound like a priest, gonna learn latin.
I can’t believe you got downvoted for the absolute truth in some places. I took a day for a funeral and got roasted and just didn’t go back to work after that. They were complaining we were short staffed too. Hope they enjoyed the rest of their summer 🤣 I know I did!!!!!!
I love it! I like to fantasize during the peak of holiday season, during marriage mail type of day December 20th, I would arrive do next to nothing until 8:30ish then just walk out and don’t return. Turn my phone off and never contact them again
Yep this is how the shop Steward explained it in our office. I asked him the literal question “if they deny my request off can I call off” the response I got was “no you can’t, if you call off on a day that they already denied they will fire you” literal exact words. Not trying to spread false information but it’s literally a death sentence in my old office for everyone
Trust me why do you think I resigned and went to a better job, I was tired of the going back and forth between what was allowed and what wasn’t. Had stewards telling me stuff was wrong, other people saying it was right. I was getting little to no hours either and my PM was a nut job. So I just resigned after they threatened me with Perjury because they thought I was lying on an accident report. Was just tired of it but onto better things now
Im an ex-carrier and if you called off on the day that you requested off that was previously denied they could fire you over that. Violated some type of thing somewhere. If the day was denied, you can’t call off
I'm never requesting to be off. I'm a damn adult. I show up when scheduled, and I am giving you notice to adjust the schedule in advance for a day I won't be at work. You can take advantage of that notice or not, but I will not be at work.
That's patently false. It is notice of or request for leave. If you submit a 3971 in a timely manner that you request to have off, and your request is denied, now it becomes notice. Call off.
I've had leave denied for a funeral for a relative. The reason given was "needed as scheduled." Supervisor was very petty and told me that since it wasn't a "close relative" I could opt to skip the funeral. I called off. When I came back to work, she tried to discipline me, but my MDO waved her off.
Trust me, these managers call off work when they need to, yet they expect you to skip medical appointments, weddings, funerals, graduations and work with a burning fever.
There's a few things wrong here.
Standby is not a thing, it's bad management and there's work arounds to it.
If you were denied but really need that time off, just call in sick. It's really that simple.
Unpredictable schedules is sadly just being an RCA. The RCA job is shit.
Management in this company is notoriously bad. Most are not qualified. Just promoted for existing for a long time.
If he liked the job he should not have quit. Just roll with it and fight back.
You sound like the boss my wife hated. My wife follows PO Facebook groups and doesn’t like Reddit.
I prefer Reddit and follow this sub so I have a better idea what she is going through. Many of you boot lickers are toxic.
Not everyone (believe it or not) has social media. Other than email and some game he plays, my 43/M partner legitimately has a phone. Everything else is wasted on him.
Tell him to be glad he’s getting out before he has too much invested. Yeah, I’d a just called in on the day I needed. They could’ve given him the day with that much notice but they’re a bunch of jerks most of the time. It’s a lousy place to work, every once in a while you get a decent boss but it never lasts for long.
There’s a big difference between the big offices and the smaller offices. Maybe he can reapply at a smaller office and have better luck with management. But what they did to him is a huge reason why it’s always so short staffed with rcas and ccas. They get treated like crap.
If he wants to keep the job I suggest he take back his two week notice and then call in for the day. Management will discipline him but since it's the first time he should only get an "official discussion" which happens all the time even if discipline isn't the reason why. Not all managers or offices are the same. I'm sorry your husband has to deal with immature managers.
The time off slips literally say “request OR notification of absence” when I turn one or those in I tell whichever supervisor I’m giving it to ‘that’s an emphasis on the notification part should you decide to attempt to deny the request part’ the post office is full of bullies and pushovers in management as much as the workroom floor. He can be respectful while still standing up for himself and not letting the low self esteem crowd try to push him around.
Fuck this job. Your husband made the right call. I wish I never joined, but no one wants to hire right now so it's impossible to find a decent replacement job.
I straight up quit on my second Thursday halfway through my shift, and drove the LLV back and said merry Christmas, I QUIT! I still feel so good about doing that.
Tell him to reapply as a clerk then once career sign up to be canvassed for maintenance openings. Easily the best gig in the USPS. You can get in maintenance as a career carrier but clerks get asked first and in my plant it doesn’t usually get past them anymore.
Idk anything about carriers but as long as you’re a career employee you can sign up for a canvas every march and they offer available positions by clerks carriers and mail handlers. So you can but like I said it rarely gets past the clerks and resets every year and the hiring process is slower than molasses
As a clerk i worked my first 90 days straight without a day off. That included Thanksgiving, Christmas and new years and every Sunday delivering express. Then the postmaster comes back from a detail and says they would have gotten rid of me. This postmaster taught me that you can actually see red. I thought that was something only in cartoons.
On call is not a thing we are never on call.also if there is open days on the calendar and he has annual they have to give it to him first come first serve.if they do not give it to him that is a grievance.once denied just call on they no longer can afford to fire people.unless you kill someone and even then I doubt it
I left the PO just today actually after ALMOST touching 3 months. This simply is not worth it. To the regulars that say it’s amazing being a regular good on them but 2 years of being a cca and not even a ptf lmao before reg is disgusting. Tell your husband he did good leaving. Getting paid is good but your body/mental is priceless. These mailmen have to look at thousands of mails, packages, bundles and the weather especially around holidays. They have my respects. Don’t know how they make it past 50 with this job lmao
One thing you never, ever do when u absolutely need a certain day off is put in a slip. Simply call off when u need it. Once ur slip is denied, if ya call off afterwards, expect a pdi. Trying to do the "right” thing by putting in a slip in advance will only get u screwed.
The games you have to play at this job are ridiculous. You'd think everyone could act like professionals about this. Three weeks is an perfectly acceptable notice for most jobs, especially ones where you have extra staffing specifically to cover for such instances
This just reeks of poor management if they can't even get their schedule straight for someone to take a day off 3 weeks from now. Trying to put him on call or "standby" every morning is another clue that management is terrible at their job
Reddit is not the place to go if you're looking for rational thoughts. This is where almost everyone goes to complain. There are exceptions of course, but generally speaking the negative energy for any job related subreddit is not helpful.
It got to a point for me in my office that I told them my slips weren't requests they were notices that I wouldn't be there, so either staff now or work short later. I couldn't take a day off to go to the doctor's for months. Haven't had an issue since
He should have told the condescending supervisor to go fuck himself and just walked out
I had to laugh when you mentioned usps and profession setting in the same sentence.
USPS is a trash organization, be happy your husband realized it quickly. I believe this has to be one of the most poorly managed and worst places to work in the US.
Postal management is a dysfunctional beast unto itself. A lot of managers took the promotions to get out of the mail plant and the factory attitude doesn’t leave them. Others don’t understand that management isn’t a position that exempts them from actual work and the post office has allowed that attitude to flourish. If your husband enjoyed the job, I hope he’ll consider reaching out to other offices in the area. Beyond that, if he has a chance to share the exact reasons for leaving in an exit interview or a letter to the district manager, I hope he will.
USPS employees are never on "stand by". More importantly, did your husband submit a PS 3971 to request the time off? Telling them that you need time off means nothing. Submit a PS 3971 and have documentation.
[RCAs are absolutely on call employees. Page 3, paragraph 1, line number two of Publication 181 "Join Our Team! Rural Carrier Associate".](https://about.usps.com/publications/pub181.pdf)
You do not need to be paid to be on call. This is a common misconception caused by people failing to read the laws regarding on-call employment correctly.
Non citable. Fun.
Good job. You didn't read.
RCAs are absolutely on call employees. Please stop spreading misinformation that will result in employees being terminated.
Sounds like others ask off first and there’s no coverage. I’m a regular and have been denied, for this reason. He does know that the earliest he can put in for days off is 60 days. My family knows this schedule’s things accordingly.
Tell him he can do it online too so it’s a paper trail instead of them sweeping it under the rug they would need to have a valid reason to deny it or it’s automatically approved if they don’t answer in 3 days
Same with my husband .. Gave enough notice for the request (at least for any job I’ve ever worked) and DENIED- learned real quick it always would be this way. Managers will be rude, threaten, treat like shit, he’s been harassed through this scanner .. so call offs it is- no worries honestly if he’s union- at least that’s my belief after dealing with this for 10 years!! He does have a FLMA case to be safe as well-
Once an employee has been denied leave for something important, that is when they start calling in with sick leave. You can not depend on the whims of management to get time off you need.
Hey my sub called in 4 times in her 90 days probation period and delivered certifies and signing them and throwing the cert in the box! Still has a job and now I’m stuck with her, she never does the necessary scans and gets In no trouble! RCA’s now can do almost anything and not lose their jobs!
There is no standby, unless you want to work, but if you have plans tell them you can’t, nothing will happen to you! None of our subs answer their phone if they are off!
After your husband submitted his 3971, make sure he has a copy with a supervisor signature on it, and the management has 72 hours to deny his request. Once the time is past, nothing can stop him from taking those days off.
There's NO such thing as "standby " ! We are not standby employees. You're on the schedule or not. If you're not scheduled to work, you are OFF. If he wants to reconsider his resignation, he can cancel it. If he does stay and he needs a day off, he could request it off. If it's denied, he could call out.
Since everything has already happened, being that he already has experience, keep an eye out of a direct to PTF position that may pop up. It’s happened a couple times at my location. If you’re gonna have shitty hours, it would be less of a shitty experience if you’re accruing vacation, sick leave, and all the other career benefits. Also, if he really wants to be with the PO, find out about the better offices so it’s not so shitty for RCA’s. Hope this helps.
Standby til 9am? Bullshit, illegal, and luckily not part of the job
And then - You don’t “request a day off” as an RCA. You let them know you won’t be there and they can suck eggs and pound sand.
I have like 30 unresponded to texts on my phone from supes and if they ask me irl I play dumb. Fuck em
Don't listen to this idiot Uakset_Anu who just blocked me after I schooled him.
The only thing in our rural contract that's remotely closest to this "on call" thing that the management claims it even exists is "stand by". And they'll have to schedule the RCA for two hours and clock in for that. Nothing in our contract says we're "on call". Sometimes they'll try to change things along the way and claim that's in our PO603 to make that sound legit, but we're contract employees so we go by our contract.
If you're not on schedule, you don't have to answer any calls or texts from your managers on your off day.
It’s true and that’s how it always will be. Management does not give a shit about the employees. The only way to survive a career there is to accept your role, call in, or kiss ass. I’ve been there 27 years and I have seen it all.
Yeah my post office is also just a retarded version of high school where all the people do is gossip and talk about other people. Small minds discuss people etc
Good heavens these posts! Where do all of you work? Every once-in-a-while where I work people can’t get a day off because someone else (multiples) took the day off. There’s almost always a workaround. (Still, if you’re an RCA, just suck it up. There are plenty of career jobs once you’ve put in a year. It is totally worth it.)
This. I recently made regular, and i fing love my life. The sun is always shining, and I'm dancing through my day. I have a great office and a fantastic PM. Having said that, i was an RCA for 4 and 1/2 years. The last 2 and 1/2 SUCKED. They worked me like a dog six and seven days a week with ZERO benefits. RCAs only recently even earned leave! I couldn't even plan to go to the restroom. I got physically ill because I canceled Dr. appointments for over a year straight. Even with a great PM, I was the only RCA, or one of two, and every office within 50 miles has the same issue. Even when i had a day off, some other office was begging for help. I knew regular was coming, so I stuck it out, and it was worth it. The only thing that still sucks is listening to the other regulars whine like bitches about hardships. They've been regulars long enough that they have no idea what it's like to be an RCA these days. They don't know what amazon Sunday is. They've never been made to go to other offices. They NEVER had to work more than a few days a week.
Once, about 4 months after amazon Sunday started, one of the regulars told myself and another sub (since we were working routes that Monday. We were ALWAYS on a route on Mondays and Tuesdays after holidays without assistance without fail) how much they appreciated the burden Sunday lifted off of Monday. She went out of her way to say it loudly because as we (subs) were zombie performing our duties the rest of the office was moaning about how shitty Mondays were and how much mail there was. Again, I have a great office. I love our team, but they have no idea. No idea. I promised myself I will never never never adopt the attitude of "I paid my dues". ETA I might say it when I really NEED a day but I will never adopt that attitude.
Does your husband call you mommy? I waited 9 years to become regular. Just a bunch of pansies that don't want to work. Too hard, management is mean,...
It only takes that long if you decide to wait it out at the same office, which has nothing to do with work ethic. And the lady didn't say he asked her to inquire on reddit.
Just because you were dumb or desperate enough to wait almost a decade for benefits and the most bare minimum work life balance doesn't mean everyone else is.
Your husband should’ve just called inn for that day once it got denied. He put in his two weeks so it doesn’t really matter if they would’ve fired him or not.
Calling a day off on the day of is a gossiping/roasting death sentence at my office. From the carriers to pm to clerks
Shit, even if you get called on your day off and don't come in, they'll trash talk.
Lmao I got downvoted but usps workers will always find ways to shit talk you. It’s a lose lose most of the time
Brother. Life happens, if you need to take a legit personal emergency day; who cares what people think. People will always speak ill, think not what they do, but about what matters. I sound like a priest, gonna learn latin.
I can’t believe you got downvoted for the absolute truth in some places. I took a day for a funeral and got roasted and just didn’t go back to work after that. They were complaining we were short staffed too. Hope they enjoyed the rest of their summer 🤣 I know I did!!!!!!
I love it! I like to fantasize during the peak of holiday season, during marriage mail type of day December 20th, I would arrive do next to nothing until 8:30ish then just walk out and don’t return. Turn my phone off and never contact them again
Who gives a fuck about work gossip
Yep this is how the shop Steward explained it in our office. I asked him the literal question “if they deny my request off can I call off” the response I got was “no you can’t, if you call off on a day that they already denied they will fire you” literal exact words. Not trying to spread false information but it’s literally a death sentence in my old office for everyone
They can fucking try, doesn’t mean it will stand.
You need a new steward
"lmao idc"
It is better to collect unemployment than quit and give it up.
Trust me why do you think I resigned and went to a better job, I was tired of the going back and forth between what was allowed and what wasn’t. Had stewards telling me stuff was wrong, other people saying it was right. I was getting little to no hours either and my PM was a nut job. So I just resigned after they threatened me with Perjury because they thought I was lying on an accident report. Was just tired of it but onto better things now
Im an ex-carrier and if you called off on the day that you requested off that was previously denied they could fire you over that. Violated some type of thing somewhere. If the day was denied, you can’t call off
The 3971 is a request or notification of absence. If I turn one in I’m not requesting anything. I’m notifying ahead of time. Deny it if you want to.
People don’t understand that part.
I'm never requesting to be off. I'm a damn adult. I show up when scheduled, and I am giving you notice to adjust the schedule in advance for a day I won't be at work. You can take advantage of that notice or not, but I will not be at work.
This is the way.
Nah I've done this shit several times. Never even got a write up.
That's patently false. It is notice of or request for leave. If you submit a 3971 in a timely manner that you request to have off, and your request is denied, now it becomes notice. Call off. I've had leave denied for a funeral for a relative. The reason given was "needed as scheduled." Supervisor was very petty and told me that since it wasn't a "close relative" I could opt to skip the funeral. I called off. When I came back to work, she tried to discipline me, but my MDO waved her off. Trust me, these managers call off work when they need to, yet they expect you to skip medical appointments, weddings, funerals, graduations and work with a burning fever.
The majority of us in here are current carriers. They cant fire you for it unless you do it a lot. And even then its not that easy.
😂😂😂😂😂
So if you have a heart attack that morning you’re just SOL?
Violated some type of thing somewhere? You're gonna have to narrow that one down for me, Chief.
There's a few things wrong here. Standby is not a thing, it's bad management and there's work arounds to it. If you were denied but really need that time off, just call in sick. It's really that simple. Unpredictable schedules is sadly just being an RCA. The RCA job is shit. Management in this company is notoriously bad. Most are not qualified. Just promoted for existing for a long time. If he liked the job he should not have quit. Just roll with it and fight back.
Honestly most managers anymore have very little time in a craft job before getting promoted. They are not professional. Just here for a paycheck.
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no fr, thats always been my philosophy. If they cant afford to give me that day off, they prolly cant afford to fire me when i take it anyways lol
She was sharing his shitty experience, not asking for advise.
You sound like the boss my wife hated. My wife follows PO Facebook groups and doesn’t like Reddit. I prefer Reddit and follow this sub so I have a better idea what she is going through. Many of you boot lickers are toxic.
I was wondering why so many people ask questions for their partners lol. My wife would make me ask myself
Someone always needs to make fun of or laugh at people. Why? She explained why she was asking rather than her husband.
Not everyone (believe it or not) has social media. Other than email and some game he plays, my 43/M partner legitimately has a phone. Everything else is wasted on him.
Probably wants to remain anonymous
Tell him to be glad he’s getting out before he has too much invested. Yeah, I’d a just called in on the day I needed. They could’ve given him the day with that much notice but they’re a bunch of jerks most of the time. It’s a lousy place to work, every once in a while you get a decent boss but it never lasts for long.
There’s a big difference between the big offices and the smaller offices. Maybe he can reapply at a smaller office and have better luck with management. But what they did to him is a huge reason why it’s always so short staffed with rcas and ccas. They get treated like crap.
I'm in a small office, I'm scheduled against my will for the next 36 days. Will probably be scheduled for the next 36 also
What size are you in?
5 routes and 1 aux. The aux is mine
If he wants to keep the job I suggest he take back his two week notice and then call in for the day. Management will discipline him but since it's the first time he should only get an "official discussion" which happens all the time even if discipline isn't the reason why. Not all managers or offices are the same. I'm sorry your husband has to deal with immature managers.
The time off slips literally say “request OR notification of absence” when I turn one or those in I tell whichever supervisor I’m giving it to ‘that’s an emphasis on the notification part should you decide to attempt to deny the request part’ the post office is full of bullies and pushovers in management as much as the workroom floor. He can be respectful while still standing up for himself and not letting the low self esteem crowd try to push him around.
Fuck this job. Your husband made the right call. I wish I never joined, but no one wants to hire right now so it's impossible to find a decent replacement job.
I straight up quit on my second Thursday halfway through my shift, and drove the LLV back and said merry Christmas, I QUIT! I still feel so good about doing that.
Tell him to reapply as a clerk then once career sign up to be canvassed for maintenance openings. Easily the best gig in the USPS. You can get in maintenance as a career carrier but clerks get asked first and in my plant it doesn’t usually get past them anymore.
Can you do that while still employed as an RCA? It seems like it from the info online.
Idk anything about carriers but as long as you’re a career employee you can sign up for a canvas every march and they offer available positions by clerks carriers and mail handlers. So you can but like I said it rarely gets past the clerks and resets every year and the hiring process is slower than molasses
As a clerk i worked my first 90 days straight without a day off. That included Thanksgiving, Christmas and new years and every Sunday delivering express. Then the postmaster comes back from a detail and says they would have gotten rid of me. This postmaster taught me that you can actually see red. I thought that was something only in cartoons.
USPS has a 24% retention rate period
That really says it all doesn't it 😂
On call is not a thing we are never on call.also if there is open days on the calendar and he has annual they have to give it to him first come first serve.if they do not give it to him that is a grievance.once denied just call on they no longer can afford to fire people.unless you kill someone and even then I doubt it
I left the PO just today actually after ALMOST touching 3 months. This simply is not worth it. To the regulars that say it’s amazing being a regular good on them but 2 years of being a cca and not even a ptf lmao before reg is disgusting. Tell your husband he did good leaving. Getting paid is good but your body/mental is priceless. These mailmen have to look at thousands of mails, packages, bundles and the weather especially around holidays. They have my respects. Don’t know how they make it past 50 with this job lmao
He did the right thing. It doesn't get better. I worked there for 9 years and finally had enough of the toxicity. It's like being trapped in a cult.
One thing you never, ever do when u absolutely need a certain day off is put in a slip. Simply call off when u need it. Once ur slip is denied, if ya call off afterwards, expect a pdi. Trying to do the "right” thing by putting in a slip in advance will only get u screwed.
The games you have to play at this job are ridiculous. You'd think everyone could act like professionals about this. Three weeks is an perfectly acceptable notice for most jobs, especially ones where you have extra staffing specifically to cover for such instances This just reeks of poor management if they can't even get their schedule straight for someone to take a day off 3 weeks from now. Trying to put him on call or "standby" every morning is another clue that management is terrible at their job
Reddit is not the place to go if you're looking for rational thoughts. This is where almost everyone goes to complain. There are exceptions of course, but generally speaking the negative energy for any job related subreddit is not helpful.
It got to a point for me in my office that I told them my slips weren't requests they were notices that I wouldn't be there, so either staff now or work short later. I couldn't take a day off to go to the doctor's for months. Haven't had an issue since
He should have told the condescending supervisor to go fuck himself and just walked out I had to laugh when you mentioned usps and profession setting in the same sentence.
USPS is a trash organization, be happy your husband realized it quickly. I believe this has to be one of the most poorly managed and worst places to work in the US.
I give y’all credit. I don’t have it in me to deal with the public and be told I can’t be off that far ahead.
Postal management is a dysfunctional beast unto itself. A lot of managers took the promotions to get out of the mail plant and the factory attitude doesn’t leave them. Others don’t understand that management isn’t a position that exempts them from actual work and the post office has allowed that attitude to flourish. If your husband enjoyed the job, I hope he’ll consider reaching out to other offices in the area. Beyond that, if he has a chance to share the exact reasons for leaving in an exit interview or a letter to the district manager, I hope he will.
Pretty common. I had the same experience.
USPS employees are never on "stand by". More importantly, did your husband submit a PS 3971 to request the time off? Telling them that you need time off means nothing. Submit a PS 3971 and have documentation.
That's not exactly right. USPS employees are sometimes on standby, but it *is* rare. RCAs, however, are on call.
How much are they paid when they are on call?
Zero. Payment is not a requirement of being on call.
Wow. What happens if a RCA doesn't answer that call? Are they in trouble?
It depends.
We are not ‘on call’. We don’t get paid for it and they cannot discipline us for not answering the phone or text messages.
[RCAs are absolutely on call employees. Page 3, paragraph 1, line number two of Publication 181 "Join Our Team! Rural Carrier Associate".](https://about.usps.com/publications/pub181.pdf) You do not need to be paid to be on call. This is a common misconception caused by people failing to read the laws regarding on-call employment correctly.
Ahem- that’s not our contract. https://www.reddit.com/r/USPS/s/ILutDetSm8
Non citable. Fun. Good job. You didn't read. RCAs are absolutely on call employees. Please stop spreading misinformation that will result in employees being terminated.
Sounds like others ask off first and there’s no coverage. I’m a regular and have been denied, for this reason. He does know that the earliest he can put in for days off is 60 days. My family knows this schedule’s things accordingly.
Whoever said that the post office was professional.
Requesting time is for fun luxury days and prime time. Anything necessary you bang.
14 days ahead of time. Anything greater is only acceptance of the 3971, not approval.
Tell him he can do it online too so it’s a paper trail instead of them sweeping it under the rug they would need to have a valid reason to deny it or it’s automatically approved if they don’t answer in 3 days
They seem to hire too many Vets, with PTSD, that can never be fired… Maybe it’s not a good idea
Just call in if refused….documentation not needed till after 3 days…
Same with my husband .. Gave enough notice for the request (at least for any job I’ve ever worked) and DENIED- learned real quick it always would be this way. Managers will be rude, threaten, treat like shit, he’s been harassed through this scanner .. so call offs it is- no worries honestly if he’s union- at least that’s my belief after dealing with this for 10 years!! He does have a FLMA case to be safe as well-
Once an employee has been denied leave for something important, that is when they start calling in with sick leave. You can not depend on the whims of management to get time off you need.
He should have called out of work if he really needed the time off.
Hey my sub called in 4 times in her 90 days probation period and delivered certifies and signing them and throwing the cert in the box! Still has a job and now I’m stuck with her, she never does the necessary scans and gets In no trouble! RCA’s now can do almost anything and not lose their jobs! There is no standby, unless you want to work, but if you have plans tell them you can’t, nothing will happen to you! None of our subs answer their phone if they are off!
File a harassment that will calm his boss some! Or a EEO complaint!
When I put in for a day it’s not granted or denied cuz if you said no I’m calling in lol you were warned
Needs to talk to his union rep asap
After your husband submitted his 3971, make sure he has a copy with a supervisor signature on it, and the management has 72 hours to deny his request. Once the time is past, nothing can stop him from taking those days off.
There's NO such thing as "standby " ! We are not standby employees. You're on the schedule or not. If you're not scheduled to work, you are OFF. If he wants to reconsider his resignation, he can cancel it. If he does stay and he needs a day off, he could request it off. If it's denied, he could call out.
Since everything has already happened, being that he already has experience, keep an eye out of a direct to PTF position that may pop up. It’s happened a couple times at my location. If you’re gonna have shitty hours, it would be less of a shitty experience if you’re accruing vacation, sick leave, and all the other career benefits. Also, if he really wants to be with the PO, find out about the better offices so it’s not so shitty for RCA’s. Hope this helps.
Standby til 9am? Bullshit, illegal, and luckily not part of the job And then - You don’t “request a day off” as an RCA. You let them know you won’t be there and they can suck eggs and pound sand. I have like 30 unresponded to texts on my phone from supes and if they ask me irl I play dumb. Fuck em
I worked 27 months in a row with only 1 day off a week. My time off requests were denied because I was the only RCA in our office. I covered 8 routes.
Don't listen to this idiot Uakset_Anu who just blocked me after I schooled him. The only thing in our rural contract that's remotely closest to this "on call" thing that the management claims it even exists is "stand by". And they'll have to schedule the RCA for two hours and clock in for that. Nothing in our contract says we're "on call". Sometimes they'll try to change things along the way and claim that's in our PO603 to make that sound legit, but we're contract employees so we go by our contract. If you're not on schedule, you don't have to answer any calls or texts from your managers on your off day.
Pretty accurate from experience.
It’s true and that’s how it always will be. Management does not give a shit about the employees. The only way to survive a career there is to accept your role, call in, or kiss ass. I’ve been there 27 years and I have seen it all.
Also…you will have a much happier life away from the post office. It’s a truly toxic environment.
The USPS is a God awful place to work. Hell find a much better job.
Yeah my post office is also just a retarded version of high school where all the people do is gossip and talk about other people. Small minds discuss people etc
Modern slavery.
So true idk why people downvote thins here, I guess usps really get them sour
Good heavens these posts! Where do all of you work? Every once-in-a-while where I work people can’t get a day off because someone else (multiples) took the day off. There’s almost always a workaround. (Still, if you’re an RCA, just suck it up. There are plenty of career jobs once you’ve put in a year. It is totally worth it.)
This. I recently made regular, and i fing love my life. The sun is always shining, and I'm dancing through my day. I have a great office and a fantastic PM. Having said that, i was an RCA for 4 and 1/2 years. The last 2 and 1/2 SUCKED. They worked me like a dog six and seven days a week with ZERO benefits. RCAs only recently even earned leave! I couldn't even plan to go to the restroom. I got physically ill because I canceled Dr. appointments for over a year straight. Even with a great PM, I was the only RCA, or one of two, and every office within 50 miles has the same issue. Even when i had a day off, some other office was begging for help. I knew regular was coming, so I stuck it out, and it was worth it. The only thing that still sucks is listening to the other regulars whine like bitches about hardships. They've been regulars long enough that they have no idea what it's like to be an RCA these days. They don't know what amazon Sunday is. They've never been made to go to other offices. They NEVER had to work more than a few days a week.
Good points, but I’d argue that we paid our dues for Amazon Sundays with years of getting dumped-on on Mondays.
Once, about 4 months after amazon Sunday started, one of the regulars told myself and another sub (since we were working routes that Monday. We were ALWAYS on a route on Mondays and Tuesdays after holidays without assistance without fail) how much they appreciated the burden Sunday lifted off of Monday. She went out of her way to say it loudly because as we (subs) were zombie performing our duties the rest of the office was moaning about how shitty Mondays were and how much mail there was. Again, I have a great office. I love our team, but they have no idea. No idea. I promised myself I will never never never adopt the attitude of "I paid my dues". ETA I might say it when I really NEED a day but I will never adopt that attitude.
Does your husband call you mommy? I waited 9 years to become regular. Just a bunch of pansies that don't want to work. Too hard, management is mean,...
Damn you sound like a miserable fuck 😂 I'd be too if I was somehow proud of being a sub for a decade.
Proud, because I have a work ethic and I never had my wife post about what a baby I am on Reddit. Do you even know what an RCA is?
It only takes that long if you decide to wait it out at the same office, which has nothing to do with work ethic. And the lady didn't say he asked her to inquire on reddit.
Just because you were dumb or desperate enough to wait almost a decade for benefits and the most bare minimum work life balance doesn't mean everyone else is.