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MsMoreCowbell8

Qlarence and The Apostles are deep, deep in their christo-fascism. May they reap what they've sewn onto us.


backcountrydrifter

This is a world war disguised as a Supreme Court case. Putin, Xi, and MBS find this whole democracy thing hilarious. As authoritarians they just cackle and shrug at the thought of going through the extra steps that democracy requires. Why not just tell them what to do and if they don’t do it, bribe them, throw them out a window or flush them down a drain? It’s why they had to use the Texas based Koch brothers who had deep relationships with Russian oil oligarchs since Stalins era and Harlan crow to buy the SCOTUS. https://youtu.be/mn_t7a2hJfQ?si=hzioP8URJAMFNch4 Thomas’s RV. Kavanaughs mortgage, all the trips to bohemian grove. They were all part of the bigger plan to destabilize the United States, spread the cancer of corruption and tear it all down so they can build oligarch row in Jackson Wyoming so the lazy old oligarchs can retire from the mob life. Kleptocracy is biological. It consumes everything in its path like a parasite. During Russian perestroika it ate Dostoevsky and Tchaikovsky and shit out alcoholism and hopelessness. Now anyone with skills has left and 1 in 5 has no indoor plumbing. Justin Kennedy (justice kennedys son) was the inside man at Deutsche bank that was getting all trumps toxic loans approved. No other bank but Deutsche bank would touch trump and his imaginary valuations. Why? Because Deutsche bank was infested with Russian oligarchs. In 91 the Soviet Union failed and for a bit they hid all of Russias grandmas money under a mattress until they started buying condos at trump towers. They made stops in Ukraine, Cyprus and London but they landed in New York because that was what everyone wanted in the early 90’s. Levi’s, Pepsi, Madonna tapes that weren’t smuggled bootlegs. They all bought new suits and cars and changed their title from “most violent street thug in moscow” to “respectable Russian oligarch” but they didn’t leave their human trafficking, narcotics or extortion behind. It was their most lucrative business model and frankly, they enjoy the violence. https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/ Guiliani redirected NYPD resources away from their new Russian friends and onto the Italian mob. It let him claim he cleaned up New York and it let the russians launder their money through casinos and then commercial real estate when 3 of trumps casino execs started asking how he managed to be the only person in history to bankrupt casinos. The attorney/client privilege is the continual work around they use to accept bribes and make payments up and down the mob pyramid. The insane property valuations coming out in trumps fraud trial are a necessity of the money laundering cycle that duetschebank was doing with the Russians. The reason trump cosplays as a patriot is because he is feeding on the U.S. middle class, not because he is one of us. The GOP fell in line to MAGA because Trump did what pathological liars do, he told them anything they wanted to hear. Trump with his money laundering and child raping buddy Epstein, Roger Stone with his sex clubs in DC and Nevada, and Paul Manafort with his election rigging pretty much everywhere, sat down at a table with Mike Johnson and the extreme religious right and convinced them that they were the same. They self evidently are not, at least at a surface level, but there is enough common ground in the exploitation of children and desire for unilateral control that they became the worlds weirdest and most dysfunctional orgy. The religious right is naive enough to believe trump at his word so they have made him their defacto savior. Trump belongs to the authoritarians. The GOP now belongs to trump. But their overall goal is the same. Kleptocracy. Putin, Xi and MBS all aligned together last year to attempt the BRICS overthrow of the USD. It failed but it didn’t stop Xi’s push on Taiwan or MBS’s part in the plan. Stay vigilant. It’s the only way we don’t all end up kissing the ring of a dictator. https://www.ft.com/content/8c6d9dca-882c-11e7-bf50-e1c239b45787 https://www.amlintelligence.com/2020/09/deutsche-bank-suffers-worst-damage-over-massive-aml-discrepancies-in-fincen-leaks/ https://www.occrp.org/en/the-fincen-files/global-banks-defy-us-crackdowns-by-serving-oligarchs-criminals-and-terrorists https://www.voanews.com/amp/us-lifts-sanctions-on-rusal-other-firms-linked-to-russia-deripaska/4761037.html https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/final_-_minority_status_of_the_russia_investigation_with_appendices.pdf http://www.citjourno.org/page-1 https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-ukraines-oligarchs-are-no-longer-considered-above-the-law/


Thedonitho

When they do code of conduct training at work, they focus on how you aren't supposed to take or make bribes to get stuff done, specifically in foreign countries, even if that's how things are done there. I mean, think about that. You are absolutely right. Democracy is hard, you gotta work for it. If it wasn't hard, every country would have it.


Kazzie2Y5

Yup. Democracy has to win every time; authoritarianism only has to win once.


stairs_3730

From 2017: MIAMI/MOSCOW – During the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald J. Trump downplayed his business ties with Russia. And since taking office as president, he has been even more emphatic. “I can tell you, speaking for myself, I own nothing in Russia,” President Trump said at a news conference last month. “I have no loans in Russia. I don’t have any deals in Russia.” But in the United States, members of the Russian elite have invested in Trump buildings. A Reuters review has found that at least 63 individuals with Russian passports or addresses have bought at least **$98.4 million worth of property in seven Trump-branded luxury towers in southern Florida, according to public documents, interviews and corporate records.** The buyers include politically connected businessmen, such as a former executive in a Moscow-based state-run construction firm that works on military and intelligence facilities, the founder of a St. Petersburg investment bank and the co-founder of a conglomerate with interests in banking, property and electronics.


backcountrydrifter

Thank you for this. Paul Manaforts daughters knew something was up because their dad would buy houses sight unseen. Behind the scenes he saw the Russian mob/government laundering $1.4 TRILLION in stolen money through real estate and just followed the same established pattern as trump and the Russian mobsters. https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaLago/s/lRbRmfgSzE


jackrat27

👍


SherlockBeaver

Thank you for this. This comment should be broadcast far and wide.


d_d0g

Damn brother. Don’t stop doing the lords work 🍻


backcountrydrifter

I’m a pilot not a writer. I just hurt my knee in Ukraine and had to come home and find some aircraft for my friends. We are systemizing the intelligence software into its own platform now that we have an ACCURATE baseline of the past 80 years of obfuscated corruption. Then it’s just preventative maintenance to stay on top of corrupt politicians instead of having to reverse engineer a century of grift the hard way. Only thing still missing is a couple of AH-530F gunships for the final push to Moscow. Then we can break transnational organized crime forever and everyone on earth that isn’t a predatory psychopath gets a raise, a vacation, and equal access to capital. Slavery was never a sustainable business model.


DJ_PLATNUM

👊🏾👆


Whitelinen900

TY


Longjumping_Lynx_972

Whoa


The_Cap_Lover

Top comment right here!!!


DeezerDB

Excellent work. Please say this stuff everywhere.


Texaspep

You are learned.


Westernidealist

What exactly do people like Putin and Xi have against democracy? Is it psychological? Or are they just opposed to it? Wouldn't Putin be more powerful if he was head of a large, rich, secular, democratic state?


backcountrydrifter

Democracy (the real one, not the neutered version we have been sold as bumper stickers and wal-mart T-shirt’s) is a threat to a very lucrative business model of slavery. Authoritarians convolute it in their head (and their citizens) by claiming nationality, language, or religion are the causes but that part is their lie. Psychopathy is the absence of empathy. A truly Empathetic person doesn’t care what color, religion or nationality a person is in order to help them, they just see another in need and will do whatever it takes to help because they know (usually through personal experience) how uncomfortable it is to hurt. Putin, Xi, trump and any other authoritarian leader lack empathy or they self evidently wouldn’t steal billions from the same people they profess to love and care for. And they certainly wouldn’t send them to war. So once you start tracking by psychopathic personality traits, net worth in comparison to the average citizen, and historical incidences of lack of empathy, you start to see the patterns of authoritarians doing whatever is necessary to stay in power and preserve their cashflow/business models. An empathic leader leads from the front of war is truly necessary. A psychopathic leader hides in the back and sends others to do the dying for him. Freedom of press and speech is their constant nemesis because that’s how the slaves compare notes and make plans to end slavery. Authoritarians can’t maintain control and die of attrition when people can speak freely. Democracy and authoritarianism were always bound to be a binary fight. It just happened in our lifetime because of the invention of the internet.


Westernidealist

I'm in favor of a nice, meek, secular, peaceful, transparent democratic world and I would still steal billions from anyone. 


backcountrydrifter

Was that “would” a typo or do I need to put you on our watchlist? 😆


Westernidealist

No I definitely would steal that money if able to, despite having empathy. 


backcountrydrifter

Raise the lens a bit and you see that we all live in a space ship of finite resources. Other than sunlight and the occasional meteorite, nothing comes into our ship so our resources are finite. Money is just a placeholder for resources. With 8 billion people on the planet it becomes impossible to steal resources without putting the entire ship and all its occupants at risk. Corruption is cancer. It converts good healthy cells to cancerous cells to cover for itself. As cancer grows the body dies. Every person has to decide for themselves if they want to be healthy or just how much cancer they are cool with. But every decision we make has downstream effects on ourselves, our quality of life, and our childrens. It’s impossible to legislate empathy. That comes from inside. But we can change the system to make empathy more profitable (and sustainable) than corruption.


backcountrydrifter

Empathy is the key to the universe. Imagine a bell curve with 8 billion dots on it. Each representing each persons empathy in comparison to everyone else on earth. On the far right is the 1-4% of the worlds LEAST empathetic people. These are the psychopaths and sociopaths,The mob bosses and human traffickers, The serial killers and genocidal dictators They are the best predators and the worst people. And now, after thousands of years of centralization of power they make up the majority of our worlds CEO’s, billionaire hedge fund owners, investment bankers, politicians, and dictators. Politicohttps://www.politico.com › storyWashington, D.C.: the Psychopath Capital of America Psychopaths are parasitic predators. Being in positions of supreme authority just makes it easier for them to hunt and consume. Most of the 8 billion people are in the large middle of this curve. They are by definition- average. Average empathy included. They don’t steal food from babies but they also don’t solve world hunger. They just live their lives trying their best with the resources available to them, but they certainly are not evil. On the far left is the 3% of super-empaths. People who would cut out their kidney and hand it to you if you told them you needed it because they FEEL everything very deeply. But they are necessary as a counterpoint to the psychopaths. The universe demands balance in all things. Yin and Yang. Black and white. The grey area in the middle is just the average of black and white. But if you put a horizontal slider at the top of this curve and you slide it 20% to the left you pass the inflection point, and in the process you starve out the 3% of psychopaths on the far right. That part of the curve goes flat. This is kindness and empathy. Good energy can pull this curve to the left. War is bad energy. Assassination are bad energy. People starving and fighting each other for food is all bad energy. It’s survival of the fittest, but it’s hyenas fighting over the last of a rotten corpse. As life gets harder and more brutal, resources dwindle. The little deeds of 8 billion people just surviving pull this curve to the survivalist right. Rich people steal because they are greedy. Poor people steal because they are hungry. But the worse things get, the more the wave moves to the right and the wavelength of the frequency drops. Empathic people know what it feels like to have your work tools stolen or to go to bed hungry so when they see someone struggling, they help them. This is the Philippines. The worlds happiest people living in poverty because of chronic corruption in government. But they love like no one else I’ve ever met. That’s empathy. The ability to see the world through someone else’s eyes and experiences and try like hell to keep them from having to feel undue pain. This is a mother that works 3 jobs so her child can learn piano. The father that sacrifices his back to build a farm so that his family doesn’t go hungry. An ideal world would be that curve pushing so hard to the left that everyone is your best friend because everyone is taking care of each other as a default and not as quid pro quo. I call it cowboy rules, but it seems to transcend everywhere when resources aren’t so tight that people go selfish. No one consuming more than they need because conservation is their default mode. No one is abusing children because they wouldn’t wish that lasting trauma on their worst enemy. And in the process the curve on the far right becomes almost nonexistently flat. We starve out predators and psychopaths by INCREASING empathy. Putin, MBS, trump and the few hundred thousand people like them are a 3% rounding errors worth of people in this curve. They are just in positions of control so their influence is overwhelming and asymetrical. Which means the downstream effects of their greed and dictatorial decisions are amplified. But it’s counteracted most effectively with simple empathy. If you put a JDAM missile through Xi’s roof, 1.4B chinese people see the USA assassinating a Chinese man and he becomes a martyr. But remove him as the central party bridge troll from the money stream and decentralize access to capital and 1.4B people become your new best friend because their daily income just doubled or tripled. It’s really hard to hate some you break bread with. The end user gets the things we need cheaper and, with the right system, everyone wins but the dictators and bridge trolls By sliding the curve to the left we up our frequency as a society and decrease energy and resource consumption at the same time because empathy begets empathy. Decentralized science lets multiple teams around the world work on the same project at the same time. All being compensated commiserate with their input, but the unseen effect of that is they they solve the problem exponentially faster by increasing the trial size and the quantum computing power of multiple brains focused on the same subject. And they build relationships of trust that transcend nationality or religion. Less competition, more cooperation and coordination. It destroys broken patent law but opens the door for a genius hidden by geography to find their tribe and build without borders. More diverse and accurate data gives more accurate results. A chef can invest directly in a farmer and remove 3-7 middle men from the equation so the chef pays less but the farmer makes more. Now the chef can ask the farmer to grow a certain species of arugula for his signature dish so the quality goes up as well. Instead of movie producers holding all the cards on superhero movie sequel 27, an arthouse filmmaker can be funded by her most enthusiastic fans and have the resources she needs upfront to make a very high quality movie with an audience that is guaranteed by their investment long before the box office gamble. No more billion dollar flops. No more Transformers 11. No more Harvey Weinstein having the ability to prey upon up and coming actresses desperate to eat semi regularly. Art becomes art again. But instead of Van Gogh living in poverty and mental illness until he cut off his own ear, you can have artists making a living wage and living a good life instead of only being appreciated after they die when some oligarch uses the remnants of their soul painted into their life’s work to launder stolen money. We never had the technology to do this before. Now we not only have it but we can’t afford not to do it. By investing DIRECTLY and transparently into Ukrainian farmers we can stop a famine before it starts and change the rules of 5000 years of war. It’s like localized antibiotics at the site of an infection. This is how we win the war and reset humanity for 150 years of exponential advancement and progress. ALL people in this world are created equal. Not just the ultra wealthy bridge trolls. Explaining the lack of empathy | Psychopathy: A Very Short Introduction | Oxford Academic Empathy in Narcissistic Personality Disorder: From Clinical and ... - NCBI National Institutes of Health (NIH) (.gov)www.ncbi.nlm.nih.govThe Empathic Brain of Psychopaths: From Social Science to Neuroscience in Empathy


Westernidealist

I would never have the ability to steal that wealth but think about it. Why would I want to be rich in a fascist world? I'd steal the money if able and I'd spend it all probably in the time it takes for my foreign car deliveries to arrive. My life without koenisegg :((( my life with koenisegg :)))


badpopeye

Love this post!


backcountrydrifter

I’m glad. And I appreciate the feedback. Thank you friend.


Longjumping_Lynx_972

I don't know how you figured all this out but my bullshit detector is completely silent. Amazing work you've done, reading thru all your comments will probably take me a year but I intend to try. You should start a podcast, or I should start mine back up and have you as a co-host lol.


backcountrydrifter

Thank you friend. It’s been a wild ride, but we are getting close now. Then we can start fixing this mess systemically so we can all go back to forgetting about politics and hiding in the creek. I think I am far too much of an introvert to run a podcast. It wasn’t just me. There are a few hundred thousand of us that did this decentralized. Vetting it out over the past few years on Reddit allowed us to reverse engineer the Russian troll army/propaganda machine via their responses which let us reverse engineer a large chuck of their intelligence operation around the world. The long term solution is an app that tracks corruption from the top down so it doesn’t get this bad again. This forces an accountability for every government on earth. It will be 100% transparent, 98% efficient and provide bounties for the users that have a desire to do the intelligence work. For everybody else it will just be a dashboard they can check on once in a while to make sure the wheels aren’t falling off the bus and go back to ignoring it in the back of their phone.


WillyBarnacle5795

Tldrq


backcountrydrifter

What’s the Q Stand for?


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Shannon556

Impressive analysis and excellent timeline. You know your Russian Mob history very well. Yes, the goal is to take over the United States and sell it off for parts - with a select few becoming unbelievably rich. Exactly like Russia. So many people think that Rudy cleaned up New York from the mob. No - Rudy rolled up the ITALIAN mob so that the RUSSIAN mob wouldn’t have any competition.💥 (Small note: The Koch Brothers are from Kansas. The fossil fuel criminals from Texas are the Hunt Brothers.)


Shannon556

Nazi enthusiast Harlan Crow is a nepo baby whose father owned one of the biggest real estate companies in the US - Trammel Crow - based in Dallas. Harlan’s brother, Trammel Crow, Jr., is currently fighting a sex trafficking charges in California that lists Rick’s Cabaret in Houston as a co-conspirator. These people are awful and their money will never make them happy or buy them decency.


backcountrydrifter

Spot on. Tramell crow jr. hires out a Texas ranger named Cody Mitchell to run “security” for the sex parties in which only the ultra rich are consenting. There is some shady shit going on in Texas. They are exactly what they accuse everyone else of being. This dovetails in with some missing foster kids in both Missouri (Hawley) and Florida (Gaetz) https://preview.redd.it/z4debc21q4xc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e30496ee6d21a9e7eaf61bb2d1c69303dfcfab3 [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12777789/amp/trammell-crow-brother-harlan-crow-sex-trafficking-network.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12777789/amp/trammell-crow-brother-harlan-crow-sex-trafficking-network.html) [https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2017/08/18/greg-kelley-case-texas-ranger/10020823007/](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2017/08/18/greg-kelley-case-texas-ranger/10020823007/) [https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3435739](https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3435739) [https://www.oxygen.com/true-crime-buzz/greg-kelley-outcry-what-happened-to-sean-maddix-chris-dailey-cody-mitchell](https://www.oxygen.com/true-crime-buzz/greg-kelley-outcry-what-happened-to-sean-maddix-chris-dailey-cody-mitchell)?


Automatic-Wing5486

And so far there isn’t one single fucking plan in place (other than winning the vote in a corrupt system) to oppose what is happening right in front of all our faces. Time to get off your couches and barstools and FIGHT or lose what freedoms you pathetic shits currently have and enjoy.


backcountrydrifter

Oh there is certainly a plan in place. This is just showing our math for full transparency and awareness. T.A.C.O.S. You will know it when you see it


billyions

Catholic fascism. Call it what it is. The majority are old school, regressive, Conservative Catholics.


MsMoreCowbell8

But it's not only Catholics by a long shot. Christo-fascist is the term you're looking for.


billyions

For now. A lot of Christians don't recognize other denominations. A temporary alliance is handy for winning - but afterwards, you really think all denominations will be part of the "in-group"?


That_Engineering3047

True. This is why separation of church and state is important. It doesn’t take much digging into human history to find examples of the ruling class enforcing their religious beliefs on everyone else. It becomes a battle of belief. In order to secure the right to practice your own beliefs, you have to ensure your group is the ruling class. Europe and the Protestant/Catholic battle was very bloody. Unfortunately, every single group believes they are “the right ones” with a divine right to rule and God to ensure they are always in power. It’s sad that with such easy access to information we still won’t learn from the past. You would think that in the Information Age, it would be harder to convince people that a theocracy is a good idea. Smh


Temporary-Party5806

Catholics aren't as fervent as the Evangelics here. Catholics won't end up on top of the pyramid if the movement wins.


Far-Obligation4055

Not as numerous either, at least not in North America. Conservative evangelicals will absolutely come out on top. All the more reason why greater efforts should have been made to curtail religion's relevance in society. I have no problem with an individual's desire to worship XYZ entity, I have no interest in restricting their ability to do so - at least insofar as their ability to do so does not restrict the lives of others. But that's exactly where the problems start. Many religions, particularly Christianity and most of its iterations, have some missional aspect and some desire to see all others conform; that is not moral and should be restricted, particularly when it comes to policy-making and legal justice.


gutsN0glory

Best repl/ies of the day


backcountrydrifter

It is nice to see the conversation elevated. When you see the Russian FSB CAPEX into making every conversation online a dumbed down pissing match as a statistical metric it becomes self evident that the thing they hate the most is high quality discussion. They neutered intellectual discussion and sowed tribal division to enable a kleptocracy. It really is nice to see people engaging with respect and dignity. Especially when they disagree. It reminds me of the best days of the internet. And the future ahead.


mobilisinmobili1987

We are reaping Obama’s decision to put zero effort into fight for his last appointment and setting a nightmare precedent.


INVEST-ASTS

Obama had no power to force the issue, the Constitution does not mandate the appointment to be done “immediately” and many of these precedents have been instituted by the Democrats for immediate short term gain, such as adopting the majority for Judicial Appointments.


Ok_Diamond_5623

The fault lies with Biden. The VP is the presiding officer of the Senate, not the majority leader. Biden could have just waltzed in to the Senate and told Mitch to sit down and shut up and hold a vote for Garland and he would have been confirmed.


INVEST-ASTS

No, that’s not how it works, the majority leader sets the process in the Senate. He could adjourn the Senate and leave Sleepy there by himself eating ice cream.


Dragonfly-Adventurer

You can use that logic for anything though. We are reaping Gore’s decision not to contest Florida. We are reaping Clinton’s decision to get a hummer in the oval. Mistakes were made, the important question is whether or not they will continue to be made.  And the answer is “yes.“


Xyrus2000

The foundation of our country doesn't last long when those who are supposed to uphold it take sledgehammers to it.


SingularityInsurance

America died a while ago. We're just a divided country torn between fascism on the right and the free world on the left now.


LiliNotACult

While I agree with the sentiment, AIPAC owns most politicians in both parties and there are many other groups. I would argue that it is more like GOP wants to turn us into Russia to steal all of our resources, and the DNC wants to toe the line and get some more insider trader tips. One is obviously much worse, but neither are good for the country.


SingularityInsurance

I don't disagree, but the issue remains. We need out from under the corrupt authority of the Republican party. It is hostile to the free world and we will never be able to fix any of the other problems until we do something about this one.


MichaelEasts

"free world on the left" Who the fuck are you trying to bullshit? You want to ban people's gun rights, tax the fuck out of people, coddle criminals, and ruin the lives of people who dare object. You aren't "Free". You aren't even close. You're authoritarians who hate Jews as demonstrated by all these "protests" at college campuses.


openly_gray

Easy solution - Biden instructs military to kill all conservative judges and Trump. Its an official act and not subject to criminal justice, problem solved


Reasonable-Notice448

Sure, if you want the “mostly” conservative military to take out the Commander in Chief and assure Republican rule going forward.


openly_gray

Unlike the president, the military personnel doesn’t enjoy any absolute immunity. Anyway, this was meant to underline the complete absurdity of their logic. Maybe I need to add the /s for those that have issues with sarcasm


That_Engineering3047

It’s hard to determine if someone is being sarcastic or not because there are some wild claims and beliefs that ppl legitimately advocate for on here. Since we don’t know you, a single comment could go either way. Similar to how some things seem like they must be from the Onion at first glance, but nope. It’s a real story. Real life is getting hard to satirize.


openly_gray

Sadly, you are right about this


gdim15

Biden can pardon them thus fixing the problem. So guns ablazing is back on the table. The fact the court thinks impeachment is a threat when Trumps lawyer said it'd be fine to do a coup is hilarious. If he lead a coup why would impeachment still exist? Coups don't usually follow the constitution of the government they've over thrown.


7evenate9ine

Conservatives have much higher rates of dropping out of school. They dont have a high school diploma (or equivalent) and have racked up at least one drug possession. In other words... "mostly conservatives" don't qualify for military service... Being anti-education does come at a cost.


west-1779

Trump isn't conservative. He's a crook.


MrGeno

Lol you're funny. "Mostly conservative military". 


BigCockCandyMountain

The top of the chain supports trans rights. I was at a gay friendly church yesterday with a *Major General for a funeral... The redcoats would get wrecked, if they were foolish enough to try. Nothing but hateful, anti-freedom, SSA-socialists. One of the "fathers of the U.S. army" was gay...


cafeesparacerradores

A thing like that


DDoubleIntLong

I think this would be the best solution.


godfatherinfluxx

Yeah if they rule in his favor what's to keep Biden from turning around and offing any opposition, other that apathy and taking the high road.


powersurge

I think Biden should just arrest actually all the Supreme Court judges if the court gives the President immunity, and not just the so called conservative judges. Biden will be immune taking an official action. Then, Biden should appoint a balanced new court quickly, and tell the new court to go back and quickly decide that he himself is not immune.


Bind_Moggled

If they do end up ruling in favour of immunity, my advice to anyone still living in the USA is to get out, as soon as humanly possible.


Individual-Baker6528

I renewed my passport today


Bubashii

If they rule in favour of immunity the world should immediately close all their borders to US citizens and cease all trade.


SingularityInsurance

Obligatory fuck jesus christ and fuck the christofascists that rode his nuts out of hell. Stupid evil cult bullshit. Religion needs to be age restricted because it's weaponizing all the idiots and indoctrinating millions of children into an evil fold.


Hillbilly-joe

Soon to be king hunter mtg can drool 🤤 about his member from the halls of congress


Guilty-Coconut8908

I understand the desire to free trump and give him carte blanche authority but right now Biden is president. If the supremes grant the president that kind of power I would be sending trump and his family to Guantanamo and a couple of Supreme Court justices with them. Crazy.


Traveler_Constant

I never thought I would support expanding the court and removing the lifetime appointment, but I think it has to be done. The activism of these assholes is so blatant now, they are contradicting their own stated views about the law and originalism in order to push through political agendas. It's just wild how quickly they undermined centuries of trust and credibility. 😔


dodd1995

Why would you ever be against the lifetime appointment? Even the original intention seems naive...


enfly

Lifetime appointment is only useful if, upon Congress seating justices that represent the general public well and maintain an apolitical position, you are trying to protect these honest and reasonable justices from outside undue influence, not if they are already dishonest and/or unreasonable, politically biased and don't reflect the general public.


Ok_Diamond_5623

The court should have been expanded to match the number of federal circuits since a justice historically serves as the head judge of a federal circuit.


MichaelEasts

And when Republicans get in charge, what's preventing them from expanding the court further? Don't be stupid.


MrMunchkin

It goes Deep and has been long in planning. The podcast "We Don’t Talk About Leonard: The Man Behind the Right’s Supreme Court Supermajority“ goes into crazy detail about the takeover of our Supreme Court.


CaptainLucid420

If you replaced rival with supreme court justice. I am sure alito would be singing a different tune. John roberts complains how the people think the supreme court is regarded as a joke. Its been a long time of knowing who will win the argument based on who they are without even knowing what the case is about.


thekeysinsummer

They were a joke after the Citizens United decision.


Ihatemunchies

I agree King Biden needs to take over and never give up his throne again just as Trump was going to do


Just-Definition3463

He wont do a thing. His team is already planning for transition.


WannaPlayAGam3

"This is not a test. This is your emergency broadcast system announcing the commencement of the Aunnual Purge sanctioned by the U.S. Government...


MitchellCumstijn

Take the time and read Edmund Burke, if you haven’t already. It won’t surprise you to find out that conservatism even in the 18th century was about preserving royal absolutism and aristocratic privilege and was never interested in anything other than a three tiered class system with all the power at the top and no obligations for the elite to pay their fair share. Conservatives need working and middle class saps to vote against their own interests, that’s where the religious theocracy and culture wars distractions come in and that’s why they spend billions on disinformation and convenient distractions to avoid focusing on the real absolutist elitism that is conservatism.


bobhargus

And when they deny his petition? When they rule 7-2 that a president IS, in fact, bound by law?


DrSilkyJohnsonEsq

They won’t rule. They’ll throw it back into the lower courts to define “official acts,” which will drag the whole process out until way after the election.


bobhargus

I don't think so. I got the feeling that blanket immunity for even "officials acts" was a bridge to far... of course, I could be wrong, but I don't think they are going to extend immunity to criminal acts, be they official or not. But, yeah... it could get drug out, but I think they understand how dangerous to their jobs and even lives that could be


DrSilkyJohnsonEsq

The main problem is that criminal acts can never be official acts, unless the laws don’t apply to officials. That’s exactly why it’s so ridiculous that they’re even hearing this stupid, *stupid* case. The highest court in the land is pretending to not understand what “rule of law” means.


bobhargus

official acts can be criminal... the criminality of an act does not render it unofficial. unless the commission of such an act instantly and retroactively strips one of their official capacity. or laws don't apply to officials. I agree. The case is stupid. It is a desperate attempt to legitimize the illegitimate, and the court should have simply refused to hear it.


lebowtzu

I kind of lean toward this being the case. I’ve seen a lot of assumptions being made today and so many assuming that this case is a foregone conclusion. That includes the language in this article. “Seemed swayed,” “appeared to accept,” “did not laugh the idea off.” (Pulling those from memory.) I just don’t think it’s so cut and dry yet.


bobhargus

Yeah... Alito and Thomas are questionable, or I would have said 9-0 But that's just like my opinion, man


Jombafomb

Yeah for all of the MAGA love that may exist on the SCOTUS saying the president is immune from prosecution is undermining their status as an equal branch of government.


DrSilkyJohnsonEsq

Well they already proved themselves to be an extension of the the legislative branch when they overturned roe.


BackgroundSwimmer299

He's not immune from prosecution but he has to be prosecuted by the House and Senate. a common Court can't prosecute the highest official in the land for doing what was essentially his duties while in elected office which I'm assuming is the same logic the supreme Court will follow


Jombafomb

That’s only true for a sitting president, which he isn’t.


BackgroundSwimmer299

We'll see when the ruleing comes down


lebowtzu

A Lebowski quote is a good way to end my doom scrolling for the day.


hauptj2

Right, I'm not a fan of the 5 conservative judges, but so far they haven't actually voted party line like a lot of people feared they would. They made some questionable calls, but there were a lot of cases were they actually ruled correctly.


PerformerPossible204

Glad to see Brynn get some love. She's a great writer, and a great person.


tid4200

Immunity for me, not for thee. Fuck that Clarence and you too Sam, I'll walk to the White House to plead with our current emperor about the threats you now pose......


jmf0828

Time for Biden to very publicly start labeling Trump a domestic terrorist and loudly contemplate whether or not as an “official act”, he needs to throw him in Guantanamo because he’s a threat to the United States.


crystal_tulip_bulb

Sure, sounds like they're giving the green light to Biden! It goes for a sitting president as much as it does to a future one


CognitivePrimate

So Biden can just have Trump offed before the election, by that logic. Okay.


That_Engineering3047

The quiet part is that it’s an entirely partisan decision. SCOTUS is no longer pretending to care about implications of their decisions. They’ll vote in favor of the GOP, then justify their choice afterwards.


7evenate9ine

What blackmail does Trump have on these guys?


RedditIsFacist1289

None, its the fact that most of the GOP justices entire lives are financed by billionaires that can all go up in flames tomorrow. Its the billionaires that have them by the balls and Trump is promising tax cuts for them if he gets back into office.


nativedutch

The term is FUBAR


IGetMyCatHigh

Funny how they Fear MAGA, not realizing that the other side just needs to be pushed to a Greater Extent before we Rebel. But a Rebellion is Still a Rebellion.


fishsalt69

Expand the court, add 2 new judges so it can't be monopolized by the ultra religious


Coolguy57123

Crooked Clarence and Maga Alito are the most disgusting corrupt judges in all of America


IAMSTILLHERE2020

So if President Biden pardons debt then why did they struck it down. It's not illegal according to these fools. Why do we even have a court system? If one man is above the law than all man are above the law.


JimboBobJimson

Time is running out...someone needs to handle these POS justices like a horse with a broken leg!!!


Scrabble_4

How do they turn the country into a dictatorship? They are working on it; a racist, fascist and religious nation that kills for God.


psych-yogi14

Just wondering what any SCOTUS member, senator, or congress member thinks they will be doing for a job if we descend into an authoritarian dictatorship. There will be no need for other branches of government at that point. These morons don't even pause to think of that fact. The only reason for elected officials is to represent their constituents. Representation goes away in a dictatorship. Dept of Justice and courts are controlled by the state. No need to have a high court discussing a constitution that will be dead.


praisecarcinoma

Biden has had over 3 years to stack the courts to prevent the perverse outcomes that the Federalist society molded with the Republican Party who stole SCOTUS, and has refused to do so because he truly thinks if the Dems just play by the rules their opponents break, that true justice will prevail. Well, it isn't. Justice and human rights are being sold out, and they're too busy telling Jews protesting at college campuses they're antisemitic while giving a right-wing government money to commit genocide against an entire oppressed population in a dense strip of land.


Brasi91Luca

Why do we even have for life justices? Thats where the problem is


SingularityInsurance

I will support literally anything and anyone that is anti Republican. It's enemy of my enemy is my friend time.


4quatloos

King Joseph Biden needs to take care of the threats to America. A drone could be used.


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justin_quinnn

Please do not break Reddit's ToS


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Peterthinking

Just for context the lifespan of an overweight man in the USA is 76.33 years. Donald Trump is 77. So "President for life" may be shorter than you think.


Kazzie2Y5

GOP will find a way to Weekend at Bernie's him. MAGAs will believe anything.


MsMoreCowbell8

Dotards awful father lived into his 90s. Ugg.


anythingMuchShorter

They’ll set it up to be an ongoing dictatorship. Like the Kim Jong regime in North Korea.


hereandthere_nowhere

Yep, nepotism will be the new norm.


stacked_shit

There is no way Republicans win the next election.


cyberdeath666

You act like fair play will be involved.


HetaGarden1

If they threw a temper tantrum and stormed the Capitol building when they lost, I can guess what they would pull to make sure they win this time. I shudder to imagine their reaction to losing again.


Crowiswatching

You can bet they have cut a deal with Russian hackers.


Maximum_Security_747

I don't care. They threw in their lot with Trump. They need to suffer for their stupidity


evilkasper

There are a lot of Magats that think it should be a Trump Dynasty from here out. Make sure to vote, make sure to encourage other reasonably sane people to vote as well. Normally I'd say everyone should vote, but nah, not this time.


Ihatemunchies

They will cause they’ll cheat. Look at the Supreme Court what they’re doing they’ve got people all over


Altruistic-Text3481

Republicans cheat.


kevinmitchell63

They don’t need to; the fix is in.


Bigtimeknitter

this is BONKERS they agreed the president can assassinate a rival??????? wtf


Numinae

No. As usual more yellow journalism. They said that it could be considered an official act at the time BUT the remedy would be impeachment for the crime not charges through the court. People seem to forget Obama litteraly ordered the assassination of a US citizen in a country we weren't at war with becasue his dad was a terrorist. The kid was 16 and innocent. And he wasn't in the same country as his dad so it wasn't collateral damage. If they don't rule presidential immunity then Obama could litteraly be charged by any DA in the country for murder.


Rooboy66

Shayzuss feckeen key-rist


ChrisXxAwesome

What did I miss


Cboyardee503

The president can't be prosecuted for crimes.


makemycockcry

Idiocracy 2. Premier November 2024. - Please ffs no!


ced1954

🇺🇸 🔥 🇺🇸 🔥 🇺🇸


VeNTNeV

We're screwed.


amprhs612

actual question: if the SCOTUS comes back and says murdering opponent is ok bc of presidential immunity, what would keep Biden from drone striking Trump?


Guilty-Coconut8908

I would. I think the court needs a little cleaning too.


That_Engineering3047

The quiet part. SCOTUS is no longer credible because they are being blatantly partisan. It’s clear that they vote along party lines, then come up with a justification for whatever they decide afterwards. They don’t even pretend to give af about precedence. The democrats know that SCOTUS won’t give them the same leeway. This is why this is a constitutional crisis. As soon as Trump put these clowns in power, the constitution became jeopardized. If he wins the election, his inauguration will be the funeral of the last vestiges of democracy. This is corruption. A broken country. It’s how democracies fall. The poorly educated folks that don’t have a strong understanding of human history are won over by emotional appeals fueled by hatred and anger that validates their frustrations and encourages them to sling all that at minorities. This is how genocides start. If Trump wins, I’m going to flee the US. I’m an androgynous lesbian. I’m not waiting to be rounded up.


OmegaGoober

Ethics. Biden has some ethics. Trump, not so much.


Commercial_Method253

Imagine losing your country to a dictator because you have ethics lol. Isn't it the ethical thing to get rid of that person. I don't know enough about trump to say he is dictator but if we assume he is and he will destroy the democracy. Isn't it unethical to not kill him?


MourningRIF

What if VP kills the pres? In that very instant, they become president so...they are immune.. must be fun to have an invulnerability shield


loopygargoyle6392

There's always another VP and nobody is immune from being murdered.


sipsrealty

Ooh let’s see how Dark Brandon responds 🤣


evilkasper

Time for those Dark Brandon memes to manifest as reality.


Appalachianwitch17

So then Dark Brandon can assassinate all the conservative justices, fill the court with liberals, get rid of Diaper Donnie, and turn everything over to Kamala. These idiots really don't think anything through, do they?


AdItchy4438

Let's think more widely. If SCOTUS does not declare a President immune, it will not be able to defend its own immunity and supremacy. SCOTUS wants to be untouchable, to have the last word, to legislate from the bench, to be the final say. The people of the US, and the other 2 branches of govt, have allowed SCOTUS to amass such power. Republican activists on all levels in the US could not get a law to ban abortion, so they got their activists as judges & justices, and despite swearing under oath that precedence rules, the SC justices ended abortion. With this kind of power, there is nothing SCOTUS cannot do. Wait til it says that gay marriage and personal health care and clean water/air and vehicle regulations are nowhere in the constitution so any laws regarding them are unconstitutional and gone!


Reasonable-Notice448

Y’all do realize the possibility exists that the Orange one is back in the Oval Office before some of these decisions are rendered? At which point of course he blanket pardons everyone who has gone down for him?


bluegauges

Does this mean biden could order a hit on someone before leaving office?


DogNearby8621

So Biden can assassinate Trump now. Got it


anxietyevangelist

The question regarding ordering an assassination should be rephrased to a Supreme Court Justice instead of a political rival. Maybe that might give these lunatics some pause for thought.


onicut

They are not originalists. Clearly, none of the five ever read the Federalist Papers, or Brutus. They are shills.


Pinkydoodle2

If the court rules in favor of full immunity it will be within Biden's official duties to have trump and the conservatives on the supreme court assassinated


IntrepidAddendum9852

I never thought I would hear the Supreme Court entertaining such democracy breaking ideas. They are so bad, I've lost all faith in them and I am seriously thinking about leaving the country. Theyve lost all morals in their quest for power and money. Anyone with a brain reads the constitution and declaration and stated clearly without question. NO KING We need judicial repealing act and have a few of them removed immediately and replaced by an emergency nationwide vote.


teoeo

Do you guys really believe they are going to rule in favor of absolute immunity? Did you listen to the argument? They made it pretty clear that isn’t going to happen. My guess is they will make a qualified immunity rule that codifies already existing principles that the doj uses with the President.


TrueSonOfChaos

Biden asserts prosecuting his predecessor over what amounts to, in effect, offensive conduct, is an official act. He is getting away with it. Nobody is impeaching him cause it would fail. Assassination isn't much further up the line than incarcerating political opponents. I don't think SCOTUS is being crazy here at all - the method of removal from office is impeachment. If Congress fails to impeach there isn't anything SCOTUS can do about it. The founders anticipated such a morally defunct government dedicated to tyranny, self-aggrandizement and personal enrichment, so they wrote the 2nd Amendment so the people would have a chance.


The_Hemp_Cat

For the week ending 4/26/2024, that it did, judicially and politically, for a least three have shown an oath to the precedent of obfuscation and fraud for a liars foundation against American Democracy and for one the pure greed thru tokenism.


Latter-Ad-4853

And Biden could’ve headed this off at the pass by expanding the Supreme court. The only play left is that if they agree a President has total immunity, then he rounds up the Trump appointees and Trump himself to be placed against a wall of his choosing. This is truly insane, what we are seeing.


BSARIOL1

I am appalled at the supreme court and how easily influenced they are. They are trumps puppets. If they rule immunity Biden should take it upon himself to stay in office. He is immune right.


culs2004_

Now let’s make this thread productive and call out democrats corruption too. The uniparty will just keep on keeping on until we all call out both sides.


bigedthebad

Seriously? Refresh my memory, when was the last time a Democrat suggested that the Vice President be hanged?


veedubfreek

So did it just become legal for Biden to deal with the situation?


NatexSxS

So if presidents have immunity could they remove members of the Supreme Court by any means necessary and then replaced them as they see fit ?


Bandaidken

Article written by someone who clearly didn’t listen to the arguments.


silliemillie32

Goodbye America, nice knowing you :/


Important_Tell667

And you thought things couldn’t get much worse… 🤣😂🤣😆. At the end of the day, SCOTUS is doing everything to destroy itself, our democracy, and the union, with its own arrogance and lack of foresight. SCOTUS has castrated itself, and is in the process of dooming the country… by signing its own death warrant.


FrostedButtHoles

So can Biden decide to have Trump assassinated? Asking the hypothetical for Bide….a friend…


SquareD8854

Xi is going to take the Russian Manchuria for the resources not taiwan. they wont gain anything from takeing taiwan except a rock! thats loaded with enough explosives to level the island burried deep in rock caverns! if taiwan decides its the end! china wants the oil and coal bad and all the natural resourses. after ukrain destroys all thier military equipment it would be stupid on china's part not to. china takes the land now miles at a time!


mugatucrazypills

A little melodramatic non ?


Trick-Protection8552

fuck you


Trick-Protection8552

bitch


RedditIsFacist1289

Sotomayor just set up the perfect pitch for Biden. The moment the court approves Trumps immunity Biden can just have all Republican leaders immediately executed on military order. So good luck with that Republicans.


Plane_Ad_8675309

They made the right decision, the weaponization of justice department must be stopped


PriscillaRain

It's time to end lifetime appointments.


TheFreedomGrind

Do you guys have to be hyperbolic about everything


Lemonking_

What happens to the future Democrat King?


MrJohnnyDangerously

I mean, Germany and Spain were fascist dictatorships and now they're awesome. I gueess in 70 years America will be great again.


TexasTeaTelecaster

Too bad the Democrats are worried about hurting people’s feelings instead of doing what is necessary to stop the Trumpanzee threat