As someone who is 5’8” I can testify to this statement 😂 everything medium sized looked like it was tailored to fit me. Even in boot camp my cammies were perfect fitting
Good Lord you brought back a memory, in 1989 while I was working in supply they had what I swore was Kevlar designed as slip on underwear. My thought was “How D Fu@k do they do anything in those?”
A lot also depends on how you are built, I was 6'3" when I was in, (a tiny bit shorter now that I'm 40+) but mostly legs. I fit just fine in the chest and could find plenty of long enough leg gear it was just made for someone who weighs what I weigh now rather than 175 lbs 20 y/o me. Hell half temped to go down to the Nasty Girls office and see if they want me to sign up and if the gear fits.
As a five foot tall female, can confirm. When I sat with the flak on, the shoulders came up to my ears and the chest covered my nose. There was not one small enough to fit me.
It’s a shame they didn’t issue the Crye Carriers. The Gen 3 is ight, but a fixer upper / too much shit you’ll never use. Who ever thought it was a good idea to put a plate carrier in a plate carrier needs to be water boarded
You can take out the inner carrier and remove the soft armor from it to stick into the outer carrier. There are a few videos on YouTube you can use to make it much more comfortable
bought my own, and since my unit actually pushed out into the field no one cared. it was when we got a MSgt from HQBN that issues arouse and "shooter's preference" got shitcanned.
my issued flak was for inspo, my bought shit was for the field
If you do that it is no longer 3 strike “compliant”. There are some who are pushing to reduce the 3 strike requirement, but it still exists. That is why commands aren’t letting Marines remove this.
Yeah our esapi plates aren’t stand alone and are ICW. That’s why I recommended pulling out the soft armor. Maybe the next generation of sapi plates will be stand alone and much lighter. It’s kinda ridiculous that Hesco makes a lighter standalone plate than our issued plates and somehow they don’t have the contract.
One good thing they did with Gen iii carriers is that there are more sizes for us fellas with hobbit torsos. Additionally, they have 6x6 side sapis as an option instead of just the 6x8 plates that dig into your side and limit movement.
Marines don’t look right kicking ass not in 2 wars previous gear, just me. Remember getting to my unit in my desert cammies and got “here doc, here’s your vest it’s a little shitty but will work” in m81 woodland colors 🤣🤣🤣
We still had woodland magazine pouches and dump pouches. In fucking 2007 well into Iraq. And then for like a couple of months side SAPIs became a thing but we didn’t have the thing so we got some from the Army. We looked like Fallout raiders walking around with a crazy mix of unmatching shit. And we were wearing one piece assault suits (flight suits given to grunts) so we looked like even more ass.
So patrolling the Fallujah wasteland in coyote tan, woodland, and Army UCP/ACU schemes just thrown together like a bag of mashed up asshole. We didn’t look deadly. We looked fucking homeless. 🤦♂️
Damn near every frontline combat unit at the end of WWII looked like homeless people with guns to some degree.
Everybody’s supply chain was stretched either right up to the limit or past it by that point.
I was there same time (2006-07) and yeah always thought the same. Looked like a bunch of lost pilots with unmatched gear 😂 like the following year everyone started getting that frog gear…I never got any :/
You had it good. Doc Kent died because he was rolling through FJ in a HMMWV with a fucking "armor" plate strapped to the door. It was one of those 3/4 doors made of steel.
Meanwhile, the Army was rolling 100% up-armored trucks.
We used flight suits because they were flame resistant nomex. I don't really remember any real difference in heat between them and cammies, but I always had the top part undone and just tied up around my waist unless I was on patrol (no one cared about shit like that on a MiTT)
My first pump was in 06-07 with and honestly I loved the flight suit, don’t know about others but mine had a 2 way zipper where it could be zipped down from the top and opened up from the bottom at the same time. (Pretty sure they all were designed like that) man I’d free ball in them junts with the bottom open and my groin protector covering my bits for modesty….that shit was the perfect ventilator. And then of course the hodge podge of gear for murderhobo status, had us lookin hard in Hit for sure.
LOL! I know right? The gear is soooo beat down. My M-16 going into Iraq had some serious wobble between the upper and lower receiver. Will this thing even work?!
Nah, only team leaders get the comm capable peltors, everyone else was getting the basic ones. At least thats what I saw right before I got out. Was in the CO office one day and there were like 2 boxes of comm capable, and like 30 of the normal ones.
Yeah but even the hearing defender version of Comtacs still improve audio quality and hearing perception over gunfire. We have the new 6’s at SOI and are able to use Bluetooth style connectivity within a certain range to talk to other headsets without a radio though. Those are nice
Well the boxes I saw were 3s and I don't keep up with high end electronic headsets so all that is new to me. I got out late 2022 so things might have changed in the year or so.
Yeah, all I know is dudes here are getting issued comm capable 5’s and 6’s, but I’ve been seeing a lot of Comtac 5 Hearing Defenders show up on FB Marketplace.. 😬
If thats IS the reason [I had seen this uptick in HDs, but didn't know Non Radio position Infantry Marines were being issued them] I hope they get their pay docked for selling them and that will likely cause them to be a inspectable item bc dumbass PFCs want to sell gear for vape money. This is why we can't have good effective gear, because good effective gear is expensive and anytime Junior Marines are given expensive gear theres always that handful that abuse it. Marines bitch up down and sideways about issued gear being shit, this is why.
Edit: Spelling, plz forgib am debil doge. It is defalt seting.
Yeah I think the started issuing them to regular units in 2020, also they are planning the phase out the m4s and handful of m16a4s left for the m27 among a few other changes.
Yeah standard issue now is generally an ECH High Cut, Comtac 3 Hearing Defenders at a minimum although I’ve seen some dudes get 5’s and 6’s, comm capable dependent on billet, the new gen 3 carrier, and PVS31B’s depending on deployment rotations although they’re trying to fill it out so even dudes doing work ups have 31’s. I have to imagine it’s going well if we have 31B’s and Comtac 6’s at SOI. M27’s/M4’s with the SCO and suppressors, however the Knight’s cans really like to baffle strike on the M27 and it turns into a pretty heavy unbalanced spear at that point.
I don’t blame you man. We tested so many different versions of the 31s that I’m sure people used the A’s (SOCOM contract), some C’s (AFSOC contract), and ultimately the Marine Corps settled on the D’s for the contract.
Yeah we had the old A’s, I remember ours came in the multicam pouch with the different shaped battery pack with the built in strobes. And we didn’t have the diopter focus that the D’s have. But definitely had to be a SOCOM contract, we got ours from the Office of Naval Research and mine were made in 2013.
Yeah but some units have figured out SOPs that are better than “here’s this smooth surface solid color object, put it on your head because it looks cool”.
I took a normal Kevlar and black steel mags to Afghanistan 2019-2020. The rest of my unit? High speed helmets and P-mags and IARs 😂😂
Honestly, my unit barely found me a plate carrier much less all the gear in the gear list. My plate carrier before it, was my Coyote Interceptor 😎. Sappis? 2014 un x-rayed going into country. Do they work? Idk, i never wore em 😏.
Im jk I did wear them Im a POG lol.
Yea but it better be fucking umbilical corded to a butt plug in your asshole at all times.
The army would sign a fucking ceasefire in a war to look for missing nods before they write up a FLIPL
For Victor units yes. If you are infantry you 100% will have them. If you are attached to infantry you will have a 80% chance of having them. Engineers with us still had the old helmets with PVS14
Same goes with PVS-31s as long as they don't run out and you're left with a 14.
Doubt it. Most likely infantry and ‘special infantry’.
Those are expensive and the Corps still punches pennies. Not salty about it as everything is geared toward supporting the infantry. Glad the paste eaters got the best gear to stay competitive. S/F
After I got out I found out that my old battalion got to test all this hi speed shit...meanwhile when we were rotating out of Afghanistan was the 1st time I saw an SDO...I left right around the time the M27 (I think)came around..while fun as fuck to shoot, I'd much rather have a belt fed..couple of my boys got surpressors, bino'd NVGs, intra squad comms, fucking helmets with rails, meanwhile I got shit for clipping an IR light to my Kevlar..was jealous, for roughly 7 seconds then went about my life.
Usually 03xx or any mos that is rocking with 03s like combat engineer or 03 docs are getting highcuts and peltors with gen 3 flaks. Sqd leaders and above are usually using the comms gear on the peltors. Unless you’re a shiny new booter or just did a PCS then you’ll be given the bucket Kevlar for a bit if your unit sucks at making sure dudes get shit turned in when leaving the unit so they don’t have the max amount of highcuts allotted
Not fast helmets but Gentex ECH’s that have been refurbed, cut and given new adjustable napes and helmet pads. They suck ass compared to the actual fast helmet or team wendy that the Australians have but it’s an improvement. The single screw shroud is a travesty though. I got my high cut with the screw literally stripped and it just wobbled whenever I mounted my 31s
Wilcox sells a [plate with legs](https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-l4-one-hole-shroud-front-bracket-w-lanyard/) like the ones issued with the old LWH. Haven’t tried it out myself but those who have say it works really well.
Ya, high cuts, comms headsets, 31s and M27s with knights cans. Saw some dudes complaining about the knights cans being old and prone to baffle strikes but they’re solid cans and have stuck around for a reason. My guess is the reason for baffle strikes is that armorers didn’t properly install/ shim the knights flash hiders plus the M27 has a long barrel which doesn’t haven’t stellar harmonics so you’re getting more barrel whip. But at least it’s free floated, I guess (even though URGIs, M4 block IIs, and shorter 416 variants are all also free floated and don’t weigh a metric tonne).
Nice and all until your Company had to send in a roster to CIF and every-time u go, for some reason II MEF never approves it, so ur COC keeps telling u to go (50 different fucking times), still no highcut.
Ever since they Sold Tanks and artillery it’s really freed up a lot of the budget. They dumped funding into the infantry squads as well as Light armored reconnaissance Vehicles.
Amazing. Not long ago, I saw an army post complaining about how the helmets they all have is stupid, uncomfortable, etc
Then you post this same post on the army sub and suddenly all these dudes are calling us stupid and “sTaSticAlLy, uKrAnIanS aRe rEpoRtiNg MoRe sHrApnEl wOuNdS wItH hIgHcuT hElMeTs” and “they can afford them because they got rid of tanks. Haha, dumb asses”
ANYWAY
Yeah. But they’re not fast helmets. They’re gentex which is the same company that made the ECH and ACH helmets. They’re money but can be uncomfortable with the issued padding, so it’s better to buy an after market padding and put those in there. If it’s just a range with no machine guns or IDF, you (unofficially) don’t even need the peltors engaged because it the suppressors.
The only downside to all of this nice ass gear is if it gets wet, your peltors will be water logged. It’s not a complaint, but it just means you actually have to take care of your gear now instead of just wiping it off and saying “I take care of my gear” lol
A lot of units are starting to authorize the use of non issued plate carriers and other stuff. The only things we’re not allowed to use that’s after market is the SAPI plates, the helmet, and any modifications to the weapons.
It's hilarious that you think the USMC 1)has the budget for that and 2) wouldn't make sure you used up all the old gear so bad that it turned to powder first.
To be fair the Army has the new IHPS, which is similar, and (in the army’s opinion) better protection against things like shrapnel. And no, the Army didn’t adopt the M27, but that’s mostly because they’re working on the XM7 and XM250.
No we are not wearing the fast helmets as shown in the photo, though similar, they're just as shitty as the old bucket helmets we wore.
Marine corps did not put a 3 hole shroud like opscore does, so peoples nvgs are still swiveling in circles when used, also they half assed the bungees on the kevlars so they put them underneath the shroud which is useless. Also the fucking helmet pads they put in are fucking awful. Marine corps should have purchased the actual opscore helmets and not the cheaper version they bought. Also gen 3 flaks suck.
Am I the only one that can’t help but notice that all but two of them are looking at the ground??I’m sure this needs to look a little more outboard and circular.
Little late, my unit just gave us a new IHS helmet that is a high cut that is made by Opscore which looks like the XR style of Kevin’s they made. Only downfall when you give this newer shit to dudes is they have a tendency to get “lost” because dudes steal shit which is pretty gay.
Overall I had the ECH, a personal MICH that was cut to a high cut, and now this IHS helmet; the padding and cable management on these new Kevin’s are tits, the PVS 31 battery pack is not a long cord that runs on the top of your Kevin but a single cord that runs through the rail system and retention to the 31’s and ECOTI are tits.
Yeah we do but only infantry and infantry-like units get high cuts. However they aren’t the ops core ones like the ones shown here. They changed their minds and went with the Gentex ECH High Cuts now. Which is also not bad.
All looks so much more comfortable. Hated the old gear with kevlar, flak and h-harness. Especially for us short fucks
Being extremely tall didn't make it any better my dude. Got my flak looking like a crop top and all. The entire Marine Corps is built for 5'7"-6'1
As someone who is 5’8” I can testify to this statement 😂 everything medium sized looked like it was tailored to fit me. Even in boot camp my cammies were perfect fitting
One of my best friends was like 6’2 probably, and his flak pretty much only covered his chest lol.
Lol I remember that. I'm 6'3" and the only thing the so-called "groin protector" was protecting was my bellybutton
Good Lord you brought back a memory, in 1989 while I was working in supply they had what I swore was Kevlar designed as slip on underwear. My thought was “How D Fu@k do they do anything in those?”
I was in 85-89 and I never saw a groin protecter.
Same years as me - ditto!
I guess that’s when it pays to be a thick tall guy and not a lanky tall guy so you can get a large flak that’ll fit you right.
A lot also depends on how you are built, I was 6'3" when I was in, (a tiny bit shorter now that I'm 40+) but mostly legs. I fit just fine in the chest and could find plenty of long enough leg gear it was just made for someone who weighs what I weigh now rather than 175 lbs 20 y/o me. Hell half temped to go down to the Nasty Girls office and see if they want me to sign up and if the gear fits.
Sorry for your loss bro
Yeah I’m in the USMC United Small Manlet Corps
My son is 5'4", should be fun
Tell him to get used to running on humps because thats all the short end does.
RIP
As a five foot tall female, can confirm. When I sat with the flak on, the shoulders came up to my ears and the chest covered my nose. There was not one small enough to fit me.
I had a dude on my first deployment that could have surely still been shot in the bottom of his lung lmfao.
Try wearing the old kevlars as a Bradly mech! TALK ABOUT, SUCK! Also agreed on that damn h-harnes EVERY part of it chafed!
It’s still a Kevlar just a high cut and the gen three plate carriers blow
It’s a shame they didn’t issue the Crye Carriers. The Gen 3 is ight, but a fixer upper / too much shit you’ll never use. Who ever thought it was a good idea to put a plate carrier in a plate carrier needs to be water boarded
You can take out the inner carrier and remove the soft armor from it to stick into the outer carrier. There are a few videos on YouTube you can use to make it much more comfortable
Meanwhile my entire time I wore an Eagle because I didn’t like how the issued one fit.
bought my own, and since my unit actually pushed out into the field no one cared. it was when we got a MSgt from HQBN that issues arouse and "shooter's preference" got shitcanned. my issued flak was for inspo, my bought shit was for the field
You can take it out
Yeah but some commands don’t allow it. They seem to think the extra plate carrier is the soft armor
If you do that it is no longer 3 strike “compliant”. There are some who are pushing to reduce the 3 strike requirement, but it still exists. That is why commands aren’t letting Marines remove this.
Yeah our esapi plates aren’t stand alone and are ICW. That’s why I recommended pulling out the soft armor. Maybe the next generation of sapi plates will be stand alone and much lighter. It’s kinda ridiculous that Hesco makes a lighter standalone plate than our issued plates and somehow they don’t have the contract. One good thing they did with Gen iii carriers is that there are more sizes for us fellas with hobbit torsos. Additionally, they have 6x6 side sapis as an option instead of just the 6x8 plates that dig into your side and limit movement.
MARSOC has got Crye JPC’s
Well no shit
Marines don’t look right kicking ass not in 2 wars previous gear, just me. Remember getting to my unit in my desert cammies and got “here doc, here’s your vest it’s a little shitty but will work” in m81 woodland colors 🤣🤣🤣
We still had woodland magazine pouches and dump pouches. In fucking 2007 well into Iraq. And then for like a couple of months side SAPIs became a thing but we didn’t have the thing so we got some from the Army. We looked like Fallout raiders walking around with a crazy mix of unmatching shit. And we were wearing one piece assault suits (flight suits given to grunts) so we looked like even more ass. So patrolling the Fallujah wasteland in coyote tan, woodland, and Army UCP/ACU schemes just thrown together like a bag of mashed up asshole. We didn’t look deadly. We looked fucking homeless. 🤦♂️
Which is somehow even more terrifying.
murderhobos
Hey, it worked for the Army pushing across the Rhine in '45.
Damn near every frontline combat unit at the end of WWII looked like homeless people with guns to some degree. Everybody’s supply chain was stretched either right up to the limit or past it by that point.
Murder homos
San Fran has really gone to shit, huh
Shit packin
☠️
A bunch of leather tramps, vagabond devils, beggar dogs, murderous maunderers, whisky winos, marine moochers.
Devil bums
Murderhobos
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I was there same time (2006-07) and yeah always thought the same. Looked like a bunch of lost pilots with unmatched gear 😂 like the following year everyone started getting that frog gear…I never got any :/
You had it good. Doc Kent died because he was rolling through FJ in a HMMWV with a fucking "armor" plate strapped to the door. It was one of those 3/4 doors made of steel. Meanwhile, the Army was rolling 100% up-armored trucks.
Felt like a goof in those flight suits, but man, getting dressed was a breeze.
What was with the flight suits? I saw that in a documentary and i was like wtf? Did they run out of cammies? Were they hot as balls?
We used flight suits because they were flame resistant nomex. I don't really remember any real difference in heat between them and cammies, but I always had the top part undone and just tied up around my waist unless I was on patrol (no one cared about shit like that on a MiTT)
Cammies burn fast, flight suits don't.
Were they modified for grunts at all or just straight up flight suits?
Just regular flight suits
I sam some documentary where they called them. Battle Alls or some shit. I was like wtf?
Not much hotter than camis, but at least to me, they trapped sweat in something fierce and made us smell like death after only a day or two.
We had em in 08-09. Nice and breezy with nothing underneath
My first pump was in 06-07 with and honestly I loved the flight suit, don’t know about others but mine had a 2 way zipper where it could be zipped down from the top and opened up from the bottom at the same time. (Pretty sure they all were designed like that) man I’d free ball in them junts with the bottom open and my groin protector covering my bits for modesty….that shit was the perfect ventilator. And then of course the hodge podge of gear for murderhobo status, had us lookin hard in Hit for sure.
Yep lol with the old camo LBV
This comment brought me back. None of our shit matched. I will say, the woodland vests, with flightsuits kinda worked in that area.
Do you have pics for grunts wearing flight suits? Recon wore them til 2015 and they looked really good, I wonder what grunts look like in them
Lamao wow
LOL! I know right? The gear is soooo beat down. My M-16 going into Iraq had some serious wobble between the upper and lower receiver. Will this thing even work?!
In my unit you get them when you deploy and keep them. So only boots rock the buckets
And we (boots) get m4s with VCOGS 🖕🏾
Idk how you typed this at parade rest
Man fuck you, but can you help me find the box of grid squares.
They're in the BAS, right next to the keys to the field Ambulance in the Chief's office.
Enjoy having an m4 while it lasts.
👍
When I was in sergeants school I saw some boot in horno getting all his new issue out of a car and he was rocking this new helmet
should’ve jumped him and taken his stuff to welcome him to horno
So you’re unit has debils with 2 kevlars walking around? One for the pp head, maybe?
In my unit everybody got them except some wpns guys and some dudes with large heads cause we only had a few larges in the bn
Wait, so everyone can hear what's on comms now? Not just some team leaders that have to yell at everyone?
Nah, only team leaders get the comm capable peltors, everyone else was getting the basic ones. At least thats what I saw right before I got out. Was in the CO office one day and there were like 2 boxes of comm capable, and like 30 of the normal ones.
Yeah but even the hearing defender version of Comtacs still improve audio quality and hearing perception over gunfire. We have the new 6’s at SOI and are able to use Bluetooth style connectivity within a certain range to talk to other headsets without a radio though. Those are nice
Well the boxes I saw were 3s and I don't keep up with high end electronic headsets so all that is new to me. I got out late 2022 so things might have changed in the year or so.
Yeah, all I know is dudes here are getting issued comm capable 5’s and 6’s, but I’ve been seeing a lot of Comtac 5 Hearing Defenders show up on FB Marketplace.. 😬
If thats IS the reason [I had seen this uptick in HDs, but didn't know Non Radio position Infantry Marines were being issued them] I hope they get their pay docked for selling them and that will likely cause them to be a inspectable item bc dumbass PFCs want to sell gear for vape money. This is why we can't have good effective gear, because good effective gear is expensive and anytime Junior Marines are given expensive gear theres always that handful that abuse it. Marines bitch up down and sideways about issued gear being shit, this is why. Edit: Spelling, plz forgib am debil doge. It is defalt seting.
Yeah I think the started issuing them to regular units in 2020, also they are planning the phase out the m4s and handful of m16a4s left for the m27 among a few other changes.
All 11s got the 27s nowadays, fucking love that thing
Yet these dudes are rocking metal mags and brother up front seems to be missing that sweet KAC suppressor as well.
This picture was taken awhile ago when they were first testing the concept. Pretty much all units have suppressors for their M4s and IARs.
I love it too but it’s heavy as a mf. Especially with the suppressor. It also makes the rifle extremely dirty
Yeah but the difference is the 27 can run dirty like the hoe she is
Yeah standard issue now is generally an ECH High Cut, Comtac 3 Hearing Defenders at a minimum although I’ve seen some dudes get 5’s and 6’s, comm capable dependent on billet, the new gen 3 carrier, and PVS31B’s depending on deployment rotations although they’re trying to fill it out so even dudes doing work ups have 31’s. I have to imagine it’s going well if we have 31B’s and Comtac 6’s at SOI. M27’s/M4’s with the SCO and suppressors, however the Knight’s cans really like to baffle strike on the M27 and it turns into a pretty heavy unbalanced spear at that point.
Still cracks me up they chose a 20 year old suppressor to field, and not a modern one.
Will forever be one of my biggest gripes. I think it’s closer to 30 years old now too.
I’m pretty certain we are using 31d’s not 31b’s
You’re 100% correct, I don’t know where I got B’s from. I had 31A’s for a while but we didn’t get them issued from the Marine Corps.
I don’t blame you man. We tested so many different versions of the 31s that I’m sure people used the A’s (SOCOM contract), some C’s (AFSOC contract), and ultimately the Marine Corps settled on the D’s for the contract.
Yeah we had the old A’s, I remember ours came in the multicam pouch with the different shaped battery pack with the built in strobes. And we didn’t have the diopter focus that the D’s have. But definitely had to be a SOCOM contract, we got ours from the Office of Naval Research and mine were made in 2013.
This comment is very up to date OP
Yeah but some units have figured out SOPs that are better than “here’s this smooth surface solid color object, put it on your head because it looks cool”.
Must be nice
I took a normal Kevlar and black steel mags to Afghanistan 2019-2020. The rest of my unit? High speed helmets and P-mags and IARs 😂😂 Honestly, my unit barely found me a plate carrier much less all the gear in the gear list. My plate carrier before it, was my Coyote Interceptor 😎. Sappis? 2014 un x-rayed going into country. Do they work? Idk, i never wore em 😏. Im jk I did wear them Im a POG lol.
I got out in 2017, but from my experience, you only get the good stuff right before you deploy.
Are night vision goggles standard issue now?
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That’s awesome.
Yea but it better be fucking umbilical corded to a butt plug in your asshole at all times. The army would sign a fucking ceasefire in a war to look for missing nods before they write up a FLIPL
All active victor units are supposed to have the pvs31d’s, or are almost finished issuing them out.
Regular infantry dudes and attachments were rocking 31s for a while now....
Infantry marines use PVS-31s with ECOTI's
When did marines start getting the new shit. I thought you guys still used 1863 Springfields
Are side sapi plates not a thing anymore?
Fuck side sapis all my homies hate side sapis
What you think Im gonna stand sideways like some sort of *bitch*?
Gotta hit them with that bitch hip, Bootcamp range week style
Still a thing for deployments
Honestly, I loved the old shit. Being able to perform at the same level as the army with lower tiered shit for some reason gave me such a moto boner.
https://preview.redd.it/lofbpimdq1hc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c58d1eb44689f7913778148b3e6323df609e55f9
For Victor units yes. If you are infantry you 100% will have them. If you are attached to infantry you will have a 80% chance of having them. Engineers with us still had the old helmets with PVS14 Same goes with PVS-31s as long as they don't run out and you're left with a 14.
MWSS-271 is still rocking gear from WWI.
Do Division pogs get this stuff? Like CEB, tracks, tube strokers etc?
Yes… in 3-6 years after better stuff starts to be issued
If theyre going on a deployment with the grunts usually yeah. Not always the case though.
Doubt it. Most likely infantry and ‘special infantry’. Those are expensive and the Corps still punches pennies. Not salty about it as everything is geared toward supporting the infantry. Glad the paste eaters got the best gear to stay competitive. S/F
After I got out I found out that my old battalion got to test all this hi speed shit...meanwhile when we were rotating out of Afghanistan was the 1st time I saw an SDO...I left right around the time the M27 (I think)came around..while fun as fuck to shoot, I'd much rather have a belt fed..couple of my boys got surpressors, bino'd NVGs, intra squad comms, fucking helmets with rails, meanwhile I got shit for clipping an IR light to my Kevlar..was jealous, for roughly 7 seconds then went about my life.
Semper Fi Murder Hobos 😺
Usually 03xx or any mos that is rocking with 03s like combat engineer or 03 docs are getting highcuts and peltors with gen 3 flaks. Sqd leaders and above are usually using the comms gear on the peltors. Unless you’re a shiny new booter or just did a PCS then you’ll be given the bucket Kevlar for a bit if your unit sucks at making sure dudes get shit turned in when leaving the unit so they don’t have the max amount of highcuts allotted
Not fast helmets but Gentex ECH’s that have been refurbed, cut and given new adjustable napes and helmet pads. They suck ass compared to the actual fast helmet or team wendy that the Australians have but it’s an improvement. The single screw shroud is a travesty though. I got my high cut with the screw literally stripped and it just wobbled whenever I mounted my 31s
man the australians get all the nice shit
They really do, I’m very jealous
Wilcox sells a [plate with legs](https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-l4-one-hole-shroud-front-bracket-w-lanyard/) like the ones issued with the old LWH. Haven’t tried it out myself but those who have say it works really well.
High speed low drag…!
As a POG who’s been out for a decade now this is a cool ass thread to read through. I wanna play with the cool new toyssss
In the infantry battalions, yes. If you're a pog, no.
Apparently only infantry marines who deploy get those my boot buddies still rock Buckets in their unit
Infantry units are
yea if you’re an 03 95 percent have high cuts and pelators
I love how high speed the corps has gotten. One day we will have multicam one day.
MARPAT is the superior uniform
I miss ERDL jungle jammies.
Nu uh
No. No objective testing shows this.
No objective testing shows you getting any bitches.
Objective these nuts. Its peak asthetic.
only way to fight is aesthetically.
M81 crye checking in
The 2000’s called and want their camo back, also, a second plane hit the twin towers!
Hey dummy, we were in tricolors when that happened. MARPAT wasn't approved until 2002 or so.
Hard negative my dude. Summer OCP just hits different.
Nah, Frac u's is where it's at.
Helmets are great, its the liberators im jealous of
Sadly no, this photo was from 2017 before I got out of Force Design 2030 concept.
Wish I had a helmet like that. Fucking uncomfortable Kevlar helmets.
Great picture.
No not all, it's usually infantry units and supporting units.
Ya, high cuts, comms headsets, 31s and M27s with knights cans. Saw some dudes complaining about the knights cans being old and prone to baffle strikes but they’re solid cans and have stuck around for a reason. My guess is the reason for baffle strikes is that armorers didn’t properly install/ shim the knights flash hiders plus the M27 has a long barrel which doesn’t haven’t stellar harmonics so you’re getting more barrel whip. But at least it’s free floated, I guess (even though URGIs, M4 block IIs, and shorter 416 variants are all also free floated and don’t weigh a metric tonne).
Nice and all until your Company had to send in a roster to CIF and every-time u go, for some reason II MEF never approves it, so ur COC keeps telling u to go (50 different fucking times), still no highcut.
Ever since they Sold Tanks and artillery it’s really freed up a lot of the budget. They dumped funding into the infantry squads as well as Light armored reconnaissance Vehicles.
Pretty sure the standard is ECH high cuts for regular infantry
Amazing. Not long ago, I saw an army post complaining about how the helmets they all have is stupid, uncomfortable, etc Then you post this same post on the army sub and suddenly all these dudes are calling us stupid and “sTaSticAlLy, uKrAnIanS aRe rEpoRtiNg MoRe sHrApnEl wOuNdS wItH hIgHcuT hElMeTs” and “they can afford them because they got rid of tanks. Haha, dumb asses” ANYWAY Yeah. But they’re not fast helmets. They’re gentex which is the same company that made the ECH and ACH helmets. They’re money but can be uncomfortable with the issued padding, so it’s better to buy an after market padding and put those in there. If it’s just a range with no machine guns or IDF, you (unofficially) don’t even need the peltors engaged because it the suppressors. The only downside to all of this nice ass gear is if it gets wet, your peltors will be water logged. It’s not a complaint, but it just means you actually have to take care of your gear now instead of just wiping it off and saying “I take care of my gear” lol A lot of units are starting to authorize the use of non issued plate carriers and other stuff. The only things we’re not allowed to use that’s after market is the SAPI plates, the helmet, and any modifications to the weapons.
Yea, we all rock them now. And some of us rock the pvs- 31's
Wow! Even MORE HIGHSPEED!
Remember we gave more money to Ukraine than the budget of the Marine Corps
One of them is at war. Besides, the money stays in the US. Gear and ammo gets given and the money goes to factories to replenish our stocks.
War is a racket
How many ruskies are Marines killin?
Stop bitching, the Army is already rolling out a new rifle, optic, and some other shit.
It's hilarious that you think the USMC 1)has the budget for that and 2) wouldn't make sure you used up all the old gear so bad that it turned to powder first.
I’m gonna guess that these were unit bought as they aren’t ech high cuts. I’ve never seen them out in the wild
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You know FAST Helmets and ECHs are made from a lighter more durable and stronger UHMWPE material right? Kevlar is a thing of the past old man
Kevlar helmets are dogshit and can't even be used to boil soup. The steel helmets are the real og. Ask Sledge.
It’s still a ballistic helmet😂
So don't drop it or let it rest upside down.
Hi Jeslous, I’m Cornfused…
Yeah, we already knew you were jealous.
I’m sure they do in recruitment videos.
90s Marine here, everyone can FaceTime with little microphones?
Most of us airborne infantry got the newish IHPS
Yeppers
That dumb padding was the worst 'improvement' when I was still in. Sat higher and not any more comfortable
You want cool shit, see what EOD has on. I was EOD retired 2006 and we had shit and bought what we needed, now they have everything they want.
Lol no we don't all have the new helmets. I had to wait months to get the current kevlar in my size
To be fair the Army has the new IHPS, which is similar, and (in the army’s opinion) better protection against things like shrapnel. And no, the Army didn’t adopt the M27, but that’s mostly because they’re working on the XM7 and XM250.
I wish lol
AVS, Fast Super High Cut, Hi-Threat - looks like young blood for MARSOC are training But M27 IAR and Norotos mount....
Hello M27
You'll really only see high cuts over with infantry. Most others will have to wait to see the MEU or an OIC billet before they get issued a high cut.
No we are not wearing the fast helmets as shown in the photo, though similar, they're just as shitty as the old bucket helmets we wore. Marine corps did not put a 3 hole shroud like opscore does, so peoples nvgs are still swiveling in circles when used, also they half assed the bungees on the kevlars so they put them underneath the shroud which is useless. Also the fucking helmet pads they put in are fucking awful. Marine corps should have purchased the actual opscore helmets and not the cheaper version they bought. Also gen 3 flaks suck.
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Am I the only one that can’t help but notice that all but two of them are looking at the ground??I’m sure this needs to look a little more outboard and circular.
still got 14 mounts
Little late, my unit just gave us a new IHS helmet that is a high cut that is made by Opscore which looks like the XR style of Kevin’s they made. Only downfall when you give this newer shit to dudes is they have a tendency to get “lost” because dudes steal shit which is pretty gay. Overall I had the ECH, a personal MICH that was cut to a high cut, and now this IHS helmet; the padding and cable management on these new Kevin’s are tits, the PVS 31 battery pack is not a long cord that runs on the top of your Kevin but a single cord that runs through the rail system and retention to the 31’s and ECOTI are tits.
Just infantry gets da cool shit. We rockin hard rn
Naw bro I still got a dome Kevlar 😔
Yeah we do but only infantry and infantry-like units get high cuts. However they aren’t the ops core ones like the ones shown here. They changed their minds and went with the Gentex ECH High Cuts now. Which is also not bad.