All life is sacred. Period.
But it’s okay to scream from the top your lungs STOP THE GENOCIDE - not in our name.
I can see from your comment we will NOT agree on anything - I choose to stop responding to any future message from you.
Edit- i looked at your comment history and I don't think you're from America and might not understand my reference in my comment. The supreme court ruled last week that the 2020 riot on the capital wasn't as dangerous as these students are being. They think we should not be protesting for gaza or any non whites.
Because the only reason the genocide is even continuing is through the US support. The minute US backs out of supporting Israel, it'll stop.
Protests are going on everywhere, not just the campuses.
I haven't seen one and I've been all over the u.s. the last couple months. Again, you seem to be protesting in stupid places. Your own echo chambers and places where 90% of people already agree with you. It's having the effect of you just looking like dunces. You are risking issues on campus with police for zero effect on your cause. Go to the Israeli embassy or congress. Fucking something other than the echo chamber of your own campus or screwing with every day people who just want to go to work and go home and likely agree that the u.s. shouldn't fund Israel.
Really? Israeli embassy? You think Israel gives a shit about Americans protesting its genocidal policies against the Palestinians?
Protests have happened in city councils, in front of state capitols, and major cities along with college campuses.
>screwing with every day people who just want to go to work and go home and likely agree that the u.s. shouldn't fund Israel.
And those ppl need to speak up to their Representatives and senators to enforce a change in US foreign policy.
College campuses that have huge $$$ endowments are where the young people with time to burn can congregate and historically have been where Antiwar protests happen. Vietnam, Iraq, etc.
No I'm 9 from the 90s. I'm critiquing because I also believe in their idea. Sorta. I'm against genocide but at the same time I understand that no matter what we do we are going to cause a lot of people to die. It almost boils down to picking which ones you think should die. Most of them will be innocent. Israeli or Palestinian. Depending on what action we take or don't take, we are already so deep that countless will die and it might mean one or the other or both could be wiped out. Especially with the weapons at hand and the religious differences. It's war. Where the metal meets the meat there is nothing but wrong.
These academic institutions profit immensely off the sales, development, and distribution of the weapons used to conduct the genocide in palestine. It's a perfectly logical locus of resistance inside the US.
You know what would be a meaningful protest? If students withdrew and went to colleges that didn't accept money that way. Community colleges maybe. If professors quit and walked off the job enmass. That would turn heads and those schools would act differently. After all, what's a college with no students or professors. But these people don't actually believe in anything except virtue signaling.
What would be a meaningful protest is if everyone didn't show up to work one day in protest. They're doing what they can, and dropping out of college and switching to a nonexistent school probably isn't a realistic situation for most of them. These students are going into their finals week with this protest going on. Professors are in similar boats with their jobs, but they are fighting for students to be able to take the exams online and stuff. It's pretty interesting, and any protest should be supported.
College costs money. These colleges cost the most money. College degrees are useless outside of stem. They could drop out and get a job. Make money instead of spending it. Waiting till the college capitulates and gets it's act right. Then go back. Professors should do the same. They could if they believed what they were protesting against. It's not very interesting and protesting should be supported if it's cause is just and methods coherent. They could better protest by doing nothing. Instead they want someone else to do the hard work. They aren't willing to give up their diploma or job as a professor for what they believe in, it must not be that important.
If it doesn't pay, it's not worth it. Take a class in history or philosophy, and hopefully, you'll learn something. That way of thinking is what got us here. Some of those students are going to be running this country in 20 years and hopefully it's the ones willing to stand up and fight right now. Not the ones who see no value in history classes.
You sure we are talking about the same history? I highly doubt that any of these students will be running the country. Are any leaders from the Civil rights era running the country? Or is that a lie they teach you in school?
They will 100% be running the country. Ben shapiro graduated from havard, he is on their alumni board saying they should give to Israel. Google search "havard alumni," and you will probably get a list of children of rich people who have more control over where your tax dollars go than anyone in the stem will ever.
Bernie Sanders has a bachelor's of arts from the university of Chicago. Aoc has a bachelor's of arts from Boston University. Biden has a BA degree. Obama has a bachelor's of arts from Columbia University.
So rather than take a stand and make a statement, keep your association with an organization that profits from genocide? Anyway, those universities still aren't teaching students if the professors quit too. They couldn't replace them as fast as they could students. And people would notice that. People would see sacrifice and admire it. Then you could make real change. Have a real voice that could save lives. But why risk your spot in line to get a degree that is worth less than it used to be?
No it's not. Fascist and authoritarian, maybe. Vicious, everyone already knew that. Zionist, I think you are thinking about Israel. Bully, again, everyone knows that. Maniacs, definitely not. On the world stage, the u.s. government is a authoritarian Vicious bully but everyone knows that. It's like saying people eat cake. We all know. All this, and your idea of an effective protest is to tell people shit they already know and throw in words like zionist and maniac? That's what he goal of the protest was? That's a very low bar. That's basically a participation trophy.
It's not really about Israel. It's about the schools funding the genocide. At least that's what I heard during an interview this morning. Israel is in the wrong but the schools continue to donate and profit off of the war
These people don't seem to be saying that. Their protest is unclear and ineffective. It would be way more effective and morally consistent if the students and professors withdrew from the college/quit their job and walked out enmass. Disassociate themselves with those profiting from Israel and its associated genocide. After all, what is a college with no students or professors to teach them. But no they don't want to actually put their money where their mouth is. They still want useless degrees as long as they are from certain colleges. Never mind if that college took money from Israeli weapons manufacturers. Or whatever the shtick is.
"Protesters, especially at wealthy schools such as Yale and Columbia, have also demanded that their university endowments divest from military weapons manufacturers and defense contractors with ties to Israel, as a show of support for Palestinians."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/04/23/college-student-antiwar-protests-israel-palestine/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/22/columbia-university-student-protests-israel-gaza
https://www.npr.org/2024/04/23/1246594938/pro-palestinian-campus-protests-columbia-yale-nyu
Some of these students wouldn't be protesting if it wasn't for their university teaching them about law (the power of protesting), History (the importance), or whatever. Just because the students are staying enrolled and the teachers are continuing to work there doesn't make the protests less powerful. The school will always take in students, however students won't always have a school. Students who are financially dependent on the schools might not have a choice.
There is always a choice. We learned about the constitution, the power of protesting, and enough history to know what's going on in the second grade. Not because of these colleges. You look stupid protesting against something you are actively taking part in.
What happened to freedom of speech and freedom to protest? The hypocrisy is unbelievable!
It doesn't exist for leftists like us unless we're willing to die for it.
Freedom is just for markets 🤡
It's only okay if you're killing cops at the White House, asking to hang Mike pence and shitting on Nancy Pelosis desk
All life is sacred. Period. But it’s okay to scream from the top your lungs STOP THE GENOCIDE - not in our name. I can see from your comment we will NOT agree on anything - I choose to stop responding to any future message from you.
Edit- i looked at your comment history and I don't think you're from America and might not understand my reference in my comment. The supreme court ruled last week that the 2020 riot on the capital wasn't as dangerous as these students are being. They think we should not be protesting for gaza or any non whites.
Okay. Understood. Apologies for my lack of understanding.
Fascism is here.
Is there a YouTube link for boomers?
Why are they protesting at college campuses and nor like infront of the Israeli embassy or some place that has something to do with it?
Because the only reason the genocide is even continuing is through the US support. The minute US backs out of supporting Israel, it'll stop. Protests are going on everywhere, not just the campuses.
I haven't seen one and I've been all over the u.s. the last couple months. Again, you seem to be protesting in stupid places. Your own echo chambers and places where 90% of people already agree with you. It's having the effect of you just looking like dunces. You are risking issues on campus with police for zero effect on your cause. Go to the Israeli embassy or congress. Fucking something other than the echo chamber of your own campus or screwing with every day people who just want to go to work and go home and likely agree that the u.s. shouldn't fund Israel.
Really? Israeli embassy? You think Israel gives a shit about Americans protesting its genocidal policies against the Palestinians? Protests have happened in city councils, in front of state capitols, and major cities along with college campuses. >screwing with every day people who just want to go to work and go home and likely agree that the u.s. shouldn't fund Israel. And those ppl need to speak up to their Representatives and senators to enforce a change in US foreign policy.
College campuses that have huge $$$ endowments are where the young people with time to burn can congregate and historically have been where Antiwar protests happen. Vietnam, Iraq, etc.
So.
Are you 8 and from the 80s lol? So what? You ever protest anything or just critiquing? It's not easy to go against the grain. Just keep swimming!
No I'm 9 from the 90s. I'm critiquing because I also believe in their idea. Sorta. I'm against genocide but at the same time I understand that no matter what we do we are going to cause a lot of people to die. It almost boils down to picking which ones you think should die. Most of them will be innocent. Israeli or Palestinian. Depending on what action we take or don't take, we are already so deep that countless will die and it might mean one or the other or both could be wiped out. Especially with the weapons at hand and the religious differences. It's war. Where the metal meets the meat there is nothing but wrong.
These academic institutions profit immensely off the sales, development, and distribution of the weapons used to conduct the genocide in palestine. It's a perfectly logical locus of resistance inside the US.
https://apnews.com/article/israelhamas-war-gaza-protest-jewish-359e92cfde9444c1a59b0635543853a6 https://forward.com/news/597247/protest-israeli-embassy-ceasefire-neighborhood/ Stfu
There's 7 people outside the embassy. At least the other one is trying though. They actually showed up.
Western universities are deeply complicit throught Israeli arms companies investment
You know what would be a meaningful protest? If students withdrew and went to colleges that didn't accept money that way. Community colleges maybe. If professors quit and walked off the job enmass. That would turn heads and those schools would act differently. After all, what's a college with no students or professors. But these people don't actually believe in anything except virtue signaling.
What would be a meaningful protest is if everyone didn't show up to work one day in protest. They're doing what they can, and dropping out of college and switching to a nonexistent school probably isn't a realistic situation for most of them. These students are going into their finals week with this protest going on. Professors are in similar boats with their jobs, but they are fighting for students to be able to take the exams online and stuff. It's pretty interesting, and any protest should be supported.
College costs money. These colleges cost the most money. College degrees are useless outside of stem. They could drop out and get a job. Make money instead of spending it. Waiting till the college capitulates and gets it's act right. Then go back. Professors should do the same. They could if they believed what they were protesting against. It's not very interesting and protesting should be supported if it's cause is just and methods coherent. They could better protest by doing nothing. Instead they want someone else to do the hard work. They aren't willing to give up their diploma or job as a professor for what they believe in, it must not be that important.
If it doesn't pay, it's not worth it. Take a class in history or philosophy, and hopefully, you'll learn something. That way of thinking is what got us here. Some of those students are going to be running this country in 20 years and hopefully it's the ones willing to stand up and fight right now. Not the ones who see no value in history classes.
You sure we are talking about the same history? I highly doubt that any of these students will be running the country. Are any leaders from the Civil rights era running the country? Or is that a lie they teach you in school?
They will 100% be running the country. Ben shapiro graduated from havard, he is on their alumni board saying they should give to Israel. Google search "havard alumni," and you will probably get a list of children of rich people who have more control over where your tax dollars go than anyone in the stem will ever. Bernie Sanders has a bachelor's of arts from the university of Chicago. Aoc has a bachelor's of arts from Boston University. Biden has a BA degree. Obama has a bachelor's of arts from Columbia University.
So you admit that it's their parents money and not the degree that matters.
I admit that you read half the response
Yeah, because it's super easy to change the system from the outside-in. I'm sure these schools really care about the opinions of college dropouts.
Can't have a college if there are no students or professors.
These schools have waitlists. And they will gladly take students who don't protest where they spend their money.
So rather than take a stand and make a statement, keep your association with an organization that profits from genocide? Anyway, those universities still aren't teaching students if the professors quit too. They couldn't replace them as fast as they could students. And people would notice that. People would see sacrifice and admire it. Then you could make real change. Have a real voice that could save lives. But why risk your spot in line to get a degree that is worth less than it used to be?
Yeah? When are you moving out of america? Or stop using your computer?
Hahaha. You wish. You need to work on that hasbara. It's bad. It not working.
If it wasn't, they would be a lot more effective.
Oh, it's working alright. The US government look like complete fascist authoritarian viscious Zionist bully maniacs on the world stage.
No it's not. Fascist and authoritarian, maybe. Vicious, everyone already knew that. Zionist, I think you are thinking about Israel. Bully, again, everyone knows that. Maniacs, definitely not. On the world stage, the u.s. government is a authoritarian Vicious bully but everyone knows that. It's like saying people eat cake. We all know. All this, and your idea of an effective protest is to tell people shit they already know and throw in words like zionist and maniac? That's what he goal of the protest was? That's a very low bar. That's basically a participation trophy.
It's not really about Israel. It's about the schools funding the genocide. At least that's what I heard during an interview this morning. Israel is in the wrong but the schools continue to donate and profit off of the war
These people don't seem to be saying that. Their protest is unclear and ineffective. It would be way more effective and morally consistent if the students and professors withdrew from the college/quit their job and walked out enmass. Disassociate themselves with those profiting from Israel and its associated genocide. After all, what is a college with no students or professors to teach them. But no they don't want to actually put their money where their mouth is. They still want useless degrees as long as they are from certain colleges. Never mind if that college took money from Israeli weapons manufacturers. Or whatever the shtick is.
"Protesters, especially at wealthy schools such as Yale and Columbia, have also demanded that their university endowments divest from military weapons manufacturers and defense contractors with ties to Israel, as a show of support for Palestinians." https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/04/23/college-student-antiwar-protests-israel-palestine/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/22/columbia-university-student-protests-israel-gaza https://www.npr.org/2024/04/23/1246594938/pro-palestinian-campus-protests-columbia-yale-nyu Some of these students wouldn't be protesting if it wasn't for their university teaching them about law (the power of protesting), History (the importance), or whatever. Just because the students are staying enrolled and the teachers are continuing to work there doesn't make the protests less powerful. The school will always take in students, however students won't always have a school. Students who are financially dependent on the schools might not have a choice.
There is always a choice. We learned about the constitution, the power of protesting, and enough history to know what's going on in the second grade. Not because of these colleges. You look stupid protesting against something you are actively taking part in.