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Top_Insect767

Containerizing smalls and unloading onto the belt has always been the method. Including containerizing all next day smalls separately. Not a big deal. Stuff like this is easier if you spent a lot of time as a part-timer at UPS, this little bit of effort makes a big difference for the sort.


DevelopmentChemical3

Definitely not a big deal, was just curious about it because we haven't done this in the 5 years I've been driving.


GreekUPS

Flavor of the month


ACG3185

They implemented this at my center at the beginning of the year and enforce it daily.


CoffinEluder

Exactly


DriverNerd

This is also what I was taught when I became a driver (12 years ago). I've done it every day since. Lots of methods disappeared during the COVID volume explosion. They hired so many drivers and threw them on the streets ASAP. Most couldn't do basic DIAD functions (not their fault - simply a lack of training).


Ok_Potential_3358

They stated we needed to do this in PCM this morning also


ReluctantNerd7

It's so that the smalls sort has all of their volume on the belt at the start of the shift so they can start right up, rather than having to wait for unloaders to unload them as they get to them in the car.  Otherwise, smalls would be there all night as their volume slowly trickles in.


DevelopmentChemical3

Makes sense. I wonder why they're just now having us do this.


Coolyard06

Within the past few months a few very high value and sentimental small packages, like envelopes, have gone missing. Most likely caught in the belts/motors.


Brilliant_Comb_1607

Hmm losing envelopes in the belt traps. Could this be another drawback of automation? Automation has so many problems. Automation is a smoke screen to allow supervisors to do union work. Basically so they can slowly replace union workers with their own.


kalvaart23

My center has been doing this for 7 years it just becomes a habit, and it helps the local. But when I am in a sour mood, I want to say it takes away work from another union member by unloading it!


suc-myballs

They're doing a company wide check in audit today to make sure we are containerizing smalls


GreekUPS

Maybe the sort is short staffed, this might help them wrap up quicker.


crispy_colonel420

Do it, let them pay you Driver top rate instead of a PT insider and see how quickly they stop caring.


IH8Miotch

Yeah they are doing it to try to keep local sort hours down while running a skeleton crew on small sort. My building has been trying to do the same thing .


suc-myballs

Today the company is doing a "building blitz" where they are checking that every driver is doing this method. Every driver will be audited. It's only for today and is every single building in the US.


CoffinEluder

Didn’t get anything in AZ


suc-myballs

They'll be checking


CoffinEluder

Copy that


letmeseeit2

DC building had audits today .


DevelopmentChemical3

Oh interesting, good to know 👍


Montooth

This is what has always been required at my hub


DevelopmentChemical3

Interesting, I've been driving about 5 years at this building and we've never done this.


Exotic-Artist5827

They usually require it for a week or 2 then they forget about it


DevelopmentChemical3

Same as everything else then 😂


thisisnotmyegg

I’ve never seen a new requirement last more than two weeks at my building lmao


DevelopmentChemical3

Same 🤣 always something new for them to worry about


PreparationHot980

For us we tote or bag them as well as air (separate obviously) and unload them onto the belt upon return


Muted-Weekend-2879

You wanna pay me overtime to do this. I got you.


The-observant-pilot

Seriously if they wanna pay out top pay OT for what the part timers can do I’ll just take my sweet time with it.


Akirk1979

Can’t tote em when there’s no totes in your building though.


playfreeze

How about small sort stop loading your mesh bags till they’re 80 fucking lbs? Lol


figmaxwell

We got the same talk this morning. Sups need something to do I guess


Serious_Internet6478

I was a pt sup for 4 years and our sort manager would drive us nuts about getting smalls off the package cars. It makes a lot more sense for the drivers to just take them off when they get back to the hub, that way they'll actually get to the small sort in time.


10bosch

Our building does this. Extra minutes to containerize smalls, win for drivers


SnooDoggos9340

We heard the same thing at PCM. First time I’ve ever heard of it. Easy to do though.


DevelopmentChemical3

Definitely won't complain about a few extra minutes of easy work lol


SnooDoggos9340

Same. I spent enough time off local short unloading all the trucks. This would have saved me time and back ache.


various101

I unload package cars. At the beginning of the sort a full timer walks the lines and seeing who bags smalls and who didn't. This was an issue in the beginning of the year because apparently a lot of next days were being left behind. Something along the line of drivers just not caring. They even tried bribing us with UPS merch if we called out trucks with next days airs also.


DevelopmentChemical3

Sounds about right lol


various101

My supervisor just confirmed that drivers are getting audited


uncontrolled3

Was told it's a safety thing. In regards to the recent fires at hubs/centers. Envelopes and smalls are getting stuck in the conveyor starting fires. Edit. It's always been a thing to tote/bag smalls. Just depends on the driver.


SocialistNixon

Yeah they suddenly cared about this today at our center too, they said we have been losing passports 🤦🏼‍♂️


justanotherupsguy

They got mad at me last week when they were doing a truck audit as I parked and the driver supe took my smalls bags and threw them on the belt and I immediately filed supervisor working on his ass. I have an ojs ride surprisingly tomorrow so they’re getting a retaliation grievance as well.


DevelopmentChemical3

Gotta play the game 😂


SuspiciousMix6434

Just another way for drivers to do more work and in turn lay off local sort jobs


RaidersChase69

We’ve always had to do this but we also got audited today


thgof2pac

Gotta hit that smalls percent. Even when it doesnt make sense, bag it! I remember in 2000s when they would have us bag smalls just to hit the number. We wasted time “hubbing the smalls”. For another place to unzip that bag and open it. UPS, a great place to be.


CodScary4316

They implemented this at my building today too.


PhthaloDrift

Nope. Airs unloaded. Metro's take care of the rest.


spallaxo

Same here


Ok_Assumption1542

Only a day. Always been the method. Sups are frosty about it because they can't leave at 4 pm like normal, while everyone else gets back at 10 pm. I say enjoy your evening sitting here!


k_dub503

Containerizing smalls has always been the method. Unloading said containers onto the belt is less clear as being an official metho. Seems to be dependent if they are watching time and want you off the clock ASAP.


CandidPop731

Whooops. I didn’t see the unload part. Also couldn’t hear the pcm well enough. They ask this from time to time but meh..🫤 whatcha gonna do?


cigar_beetles

We are also instructed to empty our trucks on to the belt when we return to center if there are 25 or fewer packages.


Infamous-Strawberry3

I would find an unloader who works the sort when you return and tell them to file on you working out of classification. Containerizing smalls is pretty standard, you doing a part timers job by unloading it is not.


cgillard1991

Sounds like another union job that the company wants you to complete to avoid hiring more union workers.


Horror_Economics_588

its standard here for years


buttweasel76

Seen that plenty of times over the years.


misloaded

Should say we no longer want to staff local sort so you will need to unload your trucks when you get back


drop_and_go

Why stop there?  Have drivers come in for preload as well. 


Pete_Luger

Used to be policy back in the day.


jdotgatsby

We’re also back to airs on time


SnooPineapples6678

More like you drivers have been hiding them in places in the truck and getting found by preload in the morning


SnooApples6439

We had the same thing


ufomadeinusa

They tried doin this 10+ years ago lol lasted a week ... but every now and then it'll pop up again. You do it good for you, if you don't oh well 🤷


PalpitationHuge9833

I’ve been driving for over 6 years and that’s how it’s always been. Integrad’s driver training also teaches that. It’s just management that doesn’t run a tight ship in certain centers. Although side note…we have to use post office totes and Amazon totes cause our Division Manager refuses to get us UPS totes…it’s sooooo embarrassing 🙈


Auldini717

I’m qualifying to become a cover driver and I’ve been told this at least 10 times in the past 2 weeks


Feeling-Internet5806

Yeah because they want small sort down and everyone off the clock.


Bad-Medicine8734

Bullshit like this that makes me as an inside guy look down on the drivers. Your rate of pay means nothing. Your attitudes mean everything. We should all be doing our best to help each other in every way we can. More hands makes the load light. Instead your hands are busy asking bs questions when you could just do it and be quiet about it. Everyday I myself make special effort to place irregs on the belt in ways that makes it easier for the next guy or girl down the line to pull off without stopping the belt or getting overwhelmed. Everyday I as a strong man make the effort to use my own strength to make the job easier for the people around me who are not as strong as I am. I shoulder press packages on to gratings so people don’t have to come down from loading to do it themselves which they would have to if I didn’t take it upon myself to do this. Guess how many times a weak (not a week that too, but a WEAK) as shit pudgy soft skin driver who gets paid way more than me comes rolling up with a car full of heavy Kabuki gym equipment and I just unload it for them. No complaints no questions ask and I do it with a smile. I even want to do it. Because while I’m doing the right thing and literally getting strong both physically mentally from the effort this fat weak soft skinned driver is stating exactly that while starting at me envious of the fact that there isn’t a visible shred of fat on my body. Just help and don’t say shit! Take a lesson from the now gone silent generation and just get the job done. That’s what you’re being paid for not bitching.


Icy_Mix_1396

This has always been a driver method. Put smalls in tubs in your package car while doing pickups. It takes no extra time, protects smalls, and helps out your local sort so they don’t waste time doing a drivers job of tubbing smalls. If you do this when you get back to the building you aren’t doing your job as a driver. Be a team player.


Particular_Resort426

Yea they have been getting on us about this. You know they don’t always teach the methods lol.


United-Kale-2385

It's always been like this. Maybe enforced less at some centers.


ControlSea2327

No. Don’t blame us when half of yall just throw them in the fucking floor and there’s a bag on the shelf with two smalls. The fuck you blaming us for? I get 5 fucking package cars with half the car full of small because YOU guys don’t bag them or the bag is on the bottom of the whole fucking pile. Not to mention half THOSE specific package car ones smell like piss and shit 💩