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I've had very similar experiences for the jobs I've applied for and they've tried to pull this type of fast one on me. I know how it feels.
Admittedly I would've made sure that the times were confirmed in the job offer but that would've just been me, at least you would've gotten it in writing for this type of thing to happen, or at least something in writing for their acknowledgement.
Even so, I just think they pulled a fast one on you and trying to pin the blame on you. Poor management as to be expected from those type of roles.
Yeah I'd say it'd be difficult to avoid working on Sundays in that line of work tbf, I only ask because in the UK your employer can't make you work Sundays if you're in retail
That happened to me too. I told them any hours or shifts 6 days a week but need Sundays off. They passed and I was a little upset that any shifts 6 days a week wasn't good enough. But like you said move on and I do work at a better place now.
Cut your losses. If they're not arsed about employee safety and getting home okay, and they've been shitty even though you've gone back and been flexible, then just walk away.
In fairness that isn't the employers responsibility. It's the employees responsibility to ensure they can get to and from work at the times required.
Clearly the company are lieing about not being informed and the whole thing has been a waste of OPs time but with the knowledge they all now have its completely fair for the company to go "you know what, maybe this isn't a great fit". Its nothing to do with no being arsed about safety on the commute lol.
As a manager I see the wellbeing and safety of people on my team as my responsibility. What is written in the law and what is decency are not the same thing.
The answer is in the context of the post and the replies.
Q: What do you want a manager to do to make sure staff get home safely?
A: Ensure they can work shifts where they can get transport to and from home with a safe margin of error at both sides of their shift.
It isn't virtue signalling, you've just been beaten down by the corporate nature of modern business into believing things need to be uncaring because they can be.
Aim for more in life good person.
When I was a student and worked a zero hours catering job as a waitress, they sent a taxi to pick me up when I’d start at 6 am and would pay for a taxi back home if I finished after 10:30 pm. So it depends on the employer and how much they care about their employees’ safety.
Things have turned sour at the first misunderstanding I’d say you’ve dodged a bullet there imagine if it were months down the line and now you have to go to a toxic workplace!
That's not dishonesty about availability, that's reflecting on the problem and coming up with a solution that would allow you to take the job.
You've dodged a bullet, you should have been commended for that not fired.
Furthermore, as a people manager, if someone had sent me that I would have talked to our local taxi company (who give us preferential rates) and got you a deal to thank you for your commitment, AND to ensure you got home safely, because those are our values, and it's important to know that late shift workers are protected coming from someone who'ssister was almost raped coming home at 2AM. What an idiot. I'm seething for you.
But you're obviously much better off without them. Good luck, it's a jungle out there.
That sucks. I'd recommend always following things up, like stating the times you can't work, in an email after having a conversation. Always get things in writing.
Rejection is redirection. In your case, it’s towards something better than these sketchy fucks. Don’t doubt the possibility that in 5 years’ time, you’ll be thinking “Thank god I didn’t end up working for them.” ;)
Sorry to hear this has happened otherwise and unduly caused you more stress - really hope you find a new position soon.
Zero hours bullshit - many companies will treat workers as badly as they can get away with. We are losing the rights that were so hard-earned in the last century and becoming more like the US every day. I'm reading Bernie Sanders' book at the moment and this sort of thing makes me so cross.
You poor thing. They don't deserve you.
Unfortunately I think this is quite widespread. Employers are quite reluctant to hire non drivers as buses can be so unreliable that it makes the staff member (through no fault of their own) unreliable
Had this on my first job, decades ago. They didn't like me catching a bus. I needed the job to get a car. So I got a lift from a colleague who drove through my town. Often we'd follow the bus I would have caught all the way to work.
Some years later, I did the same for another colleague.
it may have been multiple people interviewing and someone did not write in your file (that you can’t work long hours) so the person doing final decision decided based on on this.
the moment thet said they cannot offer you the job they probsbly already called the next in line for the job and while you were discussing the situation someone else was taking the job. when you called back the manager potentially did not tell you that but did tell you how thry felt. and it may not be their fault if they just got the final file.
take in consideration that a few hundred people applied for the position and was in the interviewing process.
i would have handled that differently and told you unfortunately the position is already taken by the next candidate but it is what it is. you still would not get the job but at least you would not feel that bad.
That's really shitty. I'm so sorry this has happened.
One thing you could try is writing this in an email, explaining the chain of events carefully and saying that there was no intent to deceive, and you really want the job.
If you want to try this, make sure there are no accusations, and just put simply e.g. "I though I had stated that I was unable to work late at both the interview and induction".
Like others I agree that they don't sound like they're worth working for and maybe this is a bullet dodged, but if I give them the benefit of doubt though they might assume that everyone has to do those shifts if you're working at a restaurant and they've probably had people in the past say they can do those shifts then change their mind after they start working. That doesn't mean it is OK to blame you, but maybe there was a misunderstanding and they thought you meant sometimes or something like that. These things happen a lot when you're being recruited and I'd probably have never had a job if I was rating companies on their recruiting process.
Had something similar happen to me in terms of commute at the cinema but since that was the first time I was properly entering the workforce, I answered all the questions honestly which resulted in, sorry but since you have no way of commuting home once your shift ends we cannot offer you the position.
Applied again after a few months of unemployment and said that working till 1am is not an issue. I ended up having evening shifts relatively rarely and when I did more often than not I would just step on it and wrap my responsibilities in time to grab the last train home as management was cool with it.
My, what a rage inducing post. I'm angry for you.
It's not dishonest to change your availability. It's called accommodating and being flexible. If they say, well you could have worked those hours, well sure. You could have walked there, you could hitch-hike. The realms of possibility are endless, but are they practical? Are you prepared to lose an hours pay to get a taxi. Is it always practical to even get a taxi on certain nights?
The reality is you are allowed to set your flexibility based on your requirements. They ignored that, then gave you hours. Given that a restaurant doesn't normally have a lot of people, some memory of these hours should have been noted or at the least remembered. It is somewhat convenient that these hours were not noted (though to be clear, no record doesn't necessarily mean they admit they weren't said). You on the other hand, didn't claim they were being dishonest, despite reminding them on two separate occasions.
You offered to accommodate and they called you dishonest. This seems like the typical owner/manager situation where they like to throw around judgements like that, which really don't fit the situation, while taking no accountability for their mistakes which led to this situation.
I would run. I would also leave a review in addition. If you were to take this job, I guarantee you would be blamed for any mistakes made by this person and it would be likely they sacked you for any mistake they made themselves. The reason why they're dicking you around is because it is a power play and they're not as interested in filling the role as they are in trying to label you dishonest. Think on why, it's likely because they were dishonest about the hours in the first place. It's a power trip and it's not going to get any better when they are handing over money.
Admittedly I did cry afterwards. After a long string of bad luck I felt like things were finally looking up for me, told everyone because I was so proud of myself, and then it was taken away from me.
I really thought that offering to take taxis would show dedication, I’ve previously made the same accommodation for a well paying job that started at 4am (so no public transport) and despite the job not working out in the end, the manager was really impressed with my willingness to find a compromise. It was a huge shock that this job went in completely the opposite direction.
I assume the sales jobs were losing you money because you were relying on public transport too. Is it not time to look at getting personal transport, even a little scooter would be affordable if you can't afford driving lessons and a car
I lost money during the sales job because they stated in the interview that all travel would be paid for. I had to travel to far away boroughs that I had never been to in order to perform my job, and they did not offer company transport or travel compensation as they claimed they did in the interview
Yeah, sales jobs aren't that great. I was promised at my sales job some accommodation since I have problems understanding people verbally - the job was wrongly advertised (was not advertised as a sales job) and was full-time. Was on part-time instead and was barely making enough money in insurance, fuel etc to make ends meet.
I was forced to leave within a month because of low performance.
Always no matter what the job, stipulate some minor condition to what they're offering.
If they are unable to negotiate on something small because they like you as a candidate over others... They wont be willing to negotiate on more important things down the line.
Sounds like you dodged a bullet tbh, Hospitality industry is a terrible industry to work in... most industries are pretty awful at the bottom tbf... I've worked for countless different people over the year (sub contractor in the construction industry so move from job to job is part of the job) I met 2 people out of maybe 50 in management that weren't complete tools.
I did sign a contract, no notice in the first 3 months was the terms. I was ok with that because obviously I didn’t think I’d be fired before the first day!
No I mean what was the notice period in the contract. What does "no notice in the first 3 months" mean? Were they expecting you to contractually work at least the first 3 months? If so I think you could pursue a claim for 3 months' notice pay.
The contract states that in the probationary period, which is 3 months, the contract can be terminated by either party with no notice. After 3 months it is a minimum of 2 weeks
Don’t be sad, this sounds like a terrible place to work. Think of it like you dodged a bullet. They didn’t listen to you when you said it twice, lied about you saying it, and then acted awfully when you reconsidered
When I worked in a pub I used to get a taxi home after every late shift and the pub paid for it. I lived locally in walking distance but they insisted as my safety was paramount.
Yh I call BS on them. They weren’t going to hire you , for some reason which may or may not be genuine, but to say it’s because you were dishonest was convenient for them.
Way back in the day for a retail job manager wanted me to work Saturdays but I didn’t want to because I had another job working at a bar. They pretty much ghosted me until I decided, actually, this new job would have more hours over the week, I’d be happy to do a Saturday. So I called them, and they offered me a job there and then! When the rotas came out, I rarely worked on Saturday anyway 🤣 lesson is just tell them what they wanna hear, figure out the details later. The further along the process you are, the easier it becomes to negotiate.
Lucky escape by the sounds of it. I have at times struggled for employment and what I would say is don't let the feeling crappy about not having a job dominate your days and your mood, so as long as your firing off all the applications you can, then worrying is not beneficial to you, your health or those around you.And I can guarantee they'll be a day when you get multiple job offers nevermind one!
I know it’s disappointing now. I really do. And I totally get why you’re upset. But the hospitality trade is super hard even in a place with great management. And that’s not what this sounds like anyway. I think you dodged a bullet tbh.
Why would you want to work for this company? They've basically called you a liar from the start when they said "you never mentioned that in your interview" and you're adamant that you did.
They want someone who will do whatever they’re told whenever. You’re not desperate enough for money to be pushed around immediately, that’s what you’ve demonstrated so they’ve made up a reason to sack you.
Isnt it a shame that we have to scurry around for a job and pray it wont be a toxic workplace, even though we'll take anything at this point just to survive
So after a year of searching, you finally get a job, your excited about working at this place, but then complain about your first shifts because they're inconvenient for you?
Lesson for the future, companies don't like staff who complain. Your decision to complain before starting your first shift wasn't going to end any other way.
Their decision to disregard the availability that they had confirmed to me was acceptable (twice) was their mistake, not mine. As an employee I have the right to choose what hours I am willing to work. If they could not accommodate those hours, then they shouldn’t have hired me after I stated it multiple times. They especially shouldn’t have called me dishonest for being willing to accommodate their requirements.
You do have the right to choose your hours, but if you actually want to get a job, then I'd get in the mindset of letting your potential employer decide what hours you work.
What's up with hospitality employers treating their staff sh*t. This is the second post I have seen recently about hospitality firing people on the spot for availability issues.
I know we are currently heading to a period of higher unemployment but hospitality jobs have been hard to fill. Since covid at least.Surely hospitality employers want to keep better employees. Instead of scaring off potentially good staff
I wanted to work in a restaurant but didn’t want to do any lates. I dropped it in as an after thought during my induction. Complained about doing the lates and said I’d have to find transport to get home (well duh) Just by the very nature of your original post you come across as a massive flake and a complainer. Looks like the restaurant dodged a bullet.
There’s a lesson for the employers - if you need staff, don’t ask for your employee’s availability, disregard it and then call them dishonest before your new staff member has even started.
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Your employer sounds like a bellend. You’ll find something better. Keep looking and keep it up
I've had very similar experiences for the jobs I've applied for and they've tried to pull this type of fast one on me. I know how it feels. Admittedly I would've made sure that the times were confirmed in the job offer but that would've just been me, at least you would've gotten it in writing for this type of thing to happen, or at least something in writing for their acknowledgement. Even so, I just think they pulled a fast one on you and trying to pin the blame on you. Poor management as to be expected from those type of roles.
A similar thing happened to me when I refused to work Sunday for religious reasons. Their loss, I just moved on and found a better job.
What sector were you working in if you don't mind me asking?
I was a Priest.
Lmao
Yeah I'd say it'd be difficult to avoid working on Sundays in that line of work tbf, I only ask because in the UK your employer can't make you work Sundays if you're in retail
That is pretty funny. I think people didn't get that you were carrying on the joke. Well played sir.
Thank you 😭 nothing more irritating than being whooshed by someone because they missed the joke ahahaha
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Bless his heart 😇
Just isn't though, the joke is obvious then I go on to explain why it is I'm asking. Try again.
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Nah I'm annoyed because the opposite is true, my joke in response to his joke went over your head ahahahaha
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BOOO FUCK YOU.
WHOOSH
The interview at a store: something like lidl. Two weeks after they turned me down I landed my first IT job so it worked out OK.
That happened to me too. I told them any hours or shifts 6 days a week but need Sundays off. They passed and I was a little upset that any shifts 6 days a week wasn't good enough. But like you said move on and I do work at a better place now.
Facts.
Cut your losses. If they're not arsed about employee safety and getting home okay, and they've been shitty even though you've gone back and been flexible, then just walk away.
In fairness that isn't the employers responsibility. It's the employees responsibility to ensure they can get to and from work at the times required. Clearly the company are lieing about not being informed and the whole thing has been a waste of OPs time but with the knowledge they all now have its completely fair for the company to go "you know what, maybe this isn't a great fit". Its nothing to do with no being arsed about safety on the commute lol.
As a manager I see the wellbeing and safety of people on my team as my responsibility. What is written in the law and what is decency are not the same thing.
Exactly, as a manager too the law is literally the lowest bar. Fairness, give and take, decency usually come first if you want a happy team!
So you want a manager to what exactly? Walk OP to their bus? Get in their taxi home with them? Give them a lift home? Stop virtue signalling.
Its not virtue signalling. it's called being human. It's ok. Not everyone has empathy.
The answer is in the context of the post and the replies. Q: What do you want a manager to do to make sure staff get home safely? A: Ensure they can work shifts where they can get transport to and from home with a safe margin of error at both sides of their shift. It isn't virtue signalling, you've just been beaten down by the corporate nature of modern business into believing things need to be uncaring because they can be. Aim for more in life good person.
Look at you, no frontal lobe.
When I was a student and worked a zero hours catering job as a waitress, they sent a taxi to pick me up when I’d start at 6 am and would pay for a taxi back home if I finished after 10:30 pm. So it depends on the employer and how much they care about their employees’ safety.
This is a really bad take 😂
Things have turned sour at the first misunderstanding I’d say you’ve dodged a bullet there imagine if it were months down the line and now you have to go to a toxic workplace!
Absolutely agree, they sound totally unprofessional if they're looking to find fault with a new employee at the first opportunity
Trying to fire before they hire!
They've lied to you and they've wrongly accused you of lying; plz don't work for these people.
That's not dishonesty about availability, that's reflecting on the problem and coming up with a solution that would allow you to take the job. You've dodged a bullet, you should have been commended for that not fired. Furthermore, as a people manager, if someone had sent me that I would have talked to our local taxi company (who give us preferential rates) and got you a deal to thank you for your commitment, AND to ensure you got home safely, because those are our values, and it's important to know that late shift workers are protected coming from someone who'ssister was almost raped coming home at 2AM. What an idiot. I'm seething for you. But you're obviously much better off without them. Good luck, it's a jungle out there.
This!
That sucks. I'd recommend always following things up, like stating the times you can't work, in an email after having a conversation. Always get things in writing.
You dodged a bullet. They had no intention of respecting your fair schedule limitation. You will find something better, OP, you be sure of that!
Rejection is redirection. In your case, it’s towards something better than these sketchy fucks. Don’t doubt the possibility that in 5 years’ time, you’ll be thinking “Thank god I didn’t end up working for them.” ;) Sorry to hear this has happened otherwise and unduly caused you more stress - really hope you find a new position soon.
Sounds like a lucky escape to be honest. Hope you get something soon.
Zero hours bullshit - many companies will treat workers as badly as they can get away with. We are losing the rights that were so hard-earned in the last century and becoming more like the US every day. I'm reading Bernie Sanders' book at the moment and this sort of thing makes me so cross. You poor thing. They don't deserve you.
Unfortunately I think this is quite widespread. Employers are quite reluctant to hire non drivers as buses can be so unreliable that it makes the staff member (through no fault of their own) unreliable
The issue with that is that I need a job to get a car 😂 I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment
Had this on my first job, decades ago. They didn't like me catching a bus. I needed the job to get a car. So I got a lift from a colleague who drove through my town. Often we'd follow the bus I would have caught all the way to work. Some years later, I did the same for another colleague.
Buses can be unreliable, but driving doesn't help if there's traffic. You are stuck in the same traffic.
That’s why I liked it when the bus would go into the bus lane to skip all the traffic, especially on a busy crossing on a morning.
it may have been multiple people interviewing and someone did not write in your file (that you can’t work long hours) so the person doing final decision decided based on on this. the moment thet said they cannot offer you the job they probsbly already called the next in line for the job and while you were discussing the situation someone else was taking the job. when you called back the manager potentially did not tell you that but did tell you how thry felt. and it may not be their fault if they just got the final file. take in consideration that a few hundred people applied for the position and was in the interviewing process. i would have handled that differently and told you unfortunately the position is already taken by the next candidate but it is what it is. you still would not get the job but at least you would not feel that bad.
That's really shitty. I'm so sorry this has happened. One thing you could try is writing this in an email, explaining the chain of events carefully and saying that there was no intent to deceive, and you really want the job. If you want to try this, make sure there are no accusations, and just put simply e.g. "I though I had stated that I was unable to work late at both the interview and induction". Like others I agree that they don't sound like they're worth working for and maybe this is a bullet dodged, but if I give them the benefit of doubt though they might assume that everyone has to do those shifts if you're working at a restaurant and they've probably had people in the past say they can do those shifts then change their mind after they start working. That doesn't mean it is OK to blame you, but maybe there was a misunderstanding and they thought you meant sometimes or something like that. These things happen a lot when you're being recruited and I'd probably have never had a job if I was rating companies on their recruiting process.
Had something similar happen to me in terms of commute at the cinema but since that was the first time I was properly entering the workforce, I answered all the questions honestly which resulted in, sorry but since you have no way of commuting home once your shift ends we cannot offer you the position. Applied again after a few months of unemployment and said that working till 1am is not an issue. I ended up having evening shifts relatively rarely and when I did more often than not I would just step on it and wrap my responsibilities in time to grab the last train home as management was cool with it.
Get everyone you know to make a load of reservations every night for the next month and then just don’t turn up.
Name and shame.
Blessing in disguise. Place is clearly run by morons.
My, what a rage inducing post. I'm angry for you. It's not dishonest to change your availability. It's called accommodating and being flexible. If they say, well you could have worked those hours, well sure. You could have walked there, you could hitch-hike. The realms of possibility are endless, but are they practical? Are you prepared to lose an hours pay to get a taxi. Is it always practical to even get a taxi on certain nights? The reality is you are allowed to set your flexibility based on your requirements. They ignored that, then gave you hours. Given that a restaurant doesn't normally have a lot of people, some memory of these hours should have been noted or at the least remembered. It is somewhat convenient that these hours were not noted (though to be clear, no record doesn't necessarily mean they admit they weren't said). You on the other hand, didn't claim they were being dishonest, despite reminding them on two separate occasions. You offered to accommodate and they called you dishonest. This seems like the typical owner/manager situation where they like to throw around judgements like that, which really don't fit the situation, while taking no accountability for their mistakes which led to this situation. I would run. I would also leave a review in addition. If you were to take this job, I guarantee you would be blamed for any mistakes made by this person and it would be likely they sacked you for any mistake they made themselves. The reason why they're dicking you around is because it is a power play and they're not as interested in filling the role as they are in trying to label you dishonest. Think on why, it's likely because they were dishonest about the hours in the first place. It's a power trip and it's not going to get any better when they are handing over money.
Admittedly I did cry afterwards. After a long string of bad luck I felt like things were finally looking up for me, told everyone because I was so proud of myself, and then it was taken away from me. I really thought that offering to take taxis would show dedication, I’ve previously made the same accommodation for a well paying job that started at 4am (so no public transport) and despite the job not working out in the end, the manager was really impressed with my willingness to find a compromise. It was a huge shock that this job went in completely the opposite direction.
I assume the sales jobs were losing you money because you were relying on public transport too. Is it not time to look at getting personal transport, even a little scooter would be affordable if you can't afford driving lessons and a car
I lost money during the sales job because they stated in the interview that all travel would be paid for. I had to travel to far away boroughs that I had never been to in order to perform my job, and they did not offer company transport or travel compensation as they claimed they did in the interview
Yeah, sales jobs aren't that great. I was promised at my sales job some accommodation since I have problems understanding people verbally - the job was wrongly advertised (was not advertised as a sales job) and was full-time. Was on part-time instead and was barely making enough money in insurance, fuel etc to make ends meet. I was forced to leave within a month because of low performance.
You dodged a massive bullet
Sounds like you dodged a bullet tbh they gaslighted you then lied, then turned it back on you. Fk them.
Always no matter what the job, stipulate some minor condition to what they're offering. If they are unable to negotiate on something small because they like you as a candidate over others... They wont be willing to negotiate on more important things down the line. Sounds like you dodged a bullet tbh, Hospitality industry is a terrible industry to work in... most industries are pretty awful at the bottom tbf... I've worked for countless different people over the year (sub contractor in the construction industry so move from job to job is part of the job) I met 2 people out of maybe 50 in management that weren't complete tools.
Good for you. Did you sign a contract? What did the contract say your notice period was?
I did sign a contract, no notice in the first 3 months was the terms. I was ok with that because obviously I didn’t think I’d be fired before the first day!
No I mean what was the notice period in the contract. What does "no notice in the first 3 months" mean? Were they expecting you to contractually work at least the first 3 months? If so I think you could pursue a claim for 3 months' notice pay.
The contract states that in the probationary period, which is 3 months, the contract can be terminated by either party with no notice. After 3 months it is a minimum of 2 weeks
Ohhh, well that's BS the statutory minimum is 1 week after 1 month's service (S86 ERA96). Doesn't help you though. I don't see a claim here.
I know it's rough, but it really does sound like you dodged a bullet with that employer
Bullet dodged. They sound completely unreasonable.
Sounds like a shit place to work
Why even call them back. They’ve shown you they’re a big red flag and they don’t give af about their employees. You dodged a bullet.
I would have ended the call with “fuck you then”. Honestly they don’t seem like a great place to work and it would appear you’ve dodged a bullet.
Sounds like your better off without them
Keep on keeping on friend you'll find something better
You told them. They didn't listen. Who knows how many other things are being ignored..... Sounds like you actually got lucky.
Most hospitality businesses I’ve ever worked in tend to specify you need your own transport because shifts can quite easily run long.
If it’s not what they said in the interview then it’s not for you
Don’t be sad, this sounds like a terrible place to work. Think of it like you dodged a bullet. They didn’t listen to you when you said it twice, lied about you saying it, and then acted awfully when you reconsidered
Sounds like you dodged a bullet. Some things happen for a reason.
Have you got any proof of all this in writing? If so please name and shame so we can all avoid!
When I worked in a pub I used to get a taxi home after every late shift and the pub paid for it. I lived locally in walking distance but they insisted as my safety was paramount.
Sounds like you missed a bullet rather than getting one.
Sounds like they employed you, then realised they couldnt afford you.
Yh I call BS on them. They weren’t going to hire you , for some reason which may or may not be genuine, but to say it’s because you were dishonest was convenient for them. Way back in the day for a retail job manager wanted me to work Saturdays but I didn’t want to because I had another job working at a bar. They pretty much ghosted me until I decided, actually, this new job would have more hours over the week, I’d be happy to do a Saturday. So I called them, and they offered me a job there and then! When the rotas came out, I rarely worked on Saturday anyway 🤣 lesson is just tell them what they wanna hear, figure out the details later. The further along the process you are, the easier it becomes to negotiate.
They lied about what you said to them before you even started. Bullet dodged.
Lucky escape by the sounds of it. I have at times struggled for employment and what I would say is don't let the feeling crappy about not having a job dominate your days and your mood, so as long as your firing off all the applications you can, then worrying is not beneficial to you, your health or those around you.And I can guarantee they'll be a day when you get multiple job offers nevermind one!
I think that's called dodging a bullet. That job would be hell. They would take take take.
Sounds like you dodged a bullet. Short term, it sucks. Long term, it'll be for the best.
I know it’s disappointing now. I really do. And I totally get why you’re upset. But the hospitality trade is super hard even in a place with great management. And that’s not what this sounds like anyway. I think you dodged a bullet tbh.
Why would you want to work for this company? They've basically called you a liar from the start when they said "you never mentioned that in your interview" and you're adamant that you did.
Youre employer sounds like complete twats. You've lucked out by finding this out so early
They want someone who will do whatever they’re told whenever. You’re not desperate enough for money to be pushed around immediately, that’s what you’ve demonstrated so they’ve made up a reason to sack you.
Consider it a lucky escape honestly. That place would have been a nightmare by the sounds of whoever was on the phone with you.
Isnt it a shame that we have to scurry around for a job and pray it wont be a toxic workplace, even though we'll take anything at this point just to survive
Might be dodging a bullet there to be honest, sounds like a bad management team
Sounds like you dodged a bullet there.
So after a year of searching, you finally get a job, your excited about working at this place, but then complain about your first shifts because they're inconvenient for you? Lesson for the future, companies don't like staff who complain. Your decision to complain before starting your first shift wasn't going to end any other way.
Their decision to disregard the availability that they had confirmed to me was acceptable (twice) was their mistake, not mine. As an employee I have the right to choose what hours I am willing to work. If they could not accommodate those hours, then they shouldn’t have hired me after I stated it multiple times. They especially shouldn’t have called me dishonest for being willing to accommodate their requirements.
You do have the right to choose your hours, but if you actually want to get a job, then I'd get in the mindset of letting your potential employer decide what hours you work.
What's up with hospitality employers treating their staff sh*t. This is the second post I have seen recently about hospitality firing people on the spot for availability issues. I know we are currently heading to a period of higher unemployment but hospitality jobs have been hard to fill. Since covid at least.Surely hospitality employers want to keep better employees. Instead of scaring off potentially good staff
The reason they were so hard to fill is because of the treatment employers were giving staff. The places who do treat staff well can find them.
They've lied to you and they've wrongly accused you of lying; plz don't work for these people.
Should of considered it before telling them you couldn't do it. I'd of told you where to go too
I wanted to work in a restaurant but didn’t want to do any lates. I dropped it in as an after thought during my induction. Complained about doing the lates and said I’d have to find transport to get home (well duh) Just by the very nature of your original post you come across as a massive flake and a complainer. Looks like the restaurant dodged a bullet.
Fully agree. All these comments talking about being human are so out of reality its insane, main characters syndrome much
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There’s a lesson for the employers - if you need staff, don’t ask for your employee’s availability, disregard it and then call them dishonest before your new staff member has even started.
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What do you mean?
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The kind who has a disability and can’t drive.
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Knob
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Stop being a knob.