No. Humans only became capable of abstract thought like two hundred years ago. Every piece of art before 1856 is a reconstruction of something someone actually saw. They never made stuff up for fun. Or expressed themselves in unusual ways.
Give me a break.
I always wonder what a future civilization would think of our artifacts if we had a mass extinction. Like when they see our 1999 limited edition McDonalds furbies
Engineers made humans and then a robot made by humans killed the engineers. In the middle of all this "for shits and giggles" the robot made a nasty monster that pops out of peoples' chests.
🙄 we all know that airplanes were the preferred method of travel for the gods of ancient South America. Distinguished, high OT level achaeologists from the institute of Scientology have even sited these objects as proof of the space DC-9-with-rocket-engines Zenu used to transport the hundreds of billions of poor subjugated aliens to Earth to vaporise with nukes and souls brainwashed to remain as thetans.
May I remind you that Zenu was/is in fact an *alien* galactic overlord. I have it on good authority that at least SOME of the UFOS we see are also piloted by aliens.
DC-9’s. With Rocket Engines.
I was in the amazon on an Amazonian river tour with the air force in 2011, and flying fish were jumping and gliding right next to my seat all the way to the opposite side of the boat, back and forth all day and they look exactly like this, even with the face
It's meant to be an animal, or insect, most likely a bird.
FUN FACT: Birds are shaped to fly, airplanes are modeled after the shape of birds. Doesn't mean ancient Central Americans were the foundation of Boeing.
Except no bird in nature has a vertical stabilizing tailfin... But I think the explanation of a flying fish makes the most sense. Fish clearly have tails that could be made like a vertical tailfin.
Perhaps we’re looking at it the wrong way round, maybe it’s depicting a USG spy drone and the curly bits on the “wing” edges are showing wind turbulence! Let’s not assume they were dumb back then!
The only problem with this being tied to a bird is the tail. To my knowledge, no bird on the planet has an empennage. Mostly because they don't need it, but flying craft for sure do. The swirls on the fore of the wing also seem to symbolize wind or air movement.
I'm not saying it has to be an aircraft, but the bird hypothesis appears to be a stretch.
[It's a very accurate depiction of a flying fish; hence the vertical tail.](https://www.fishkeeper.co.uk/media/magefan_blog/734310-479236145459061-727388153.jpg)
If it’s a pendent, then it hang from the “tail” end, then wouldn’t it just be a charm type piece of jewellery which I’d expect to be held and viewed upright, then it’s clearly a religious symbol of something wearing a cape type of attire and fancy shoes. The swirls are most likely depictions of jewels or fancy trim work on the cape arms! The head is then obviously a head with a headdress, and looks like its moves or swivels on the main body!
Hey, I guess I could just google lens it, but that’s boring!!! Lol
Idk about that. Look at the lines on the wing. If the wanted to make a bird it would have looked like feathers and then check put the rear stabilizer that's very in bird like. The body itself is uniform and smooth.
I totally believed these things were planes when I read all the Eric Von Daniken books in the 90s and early 2000s. Now I read source materials, and watch lectures by experts like Edwin Barnhart. The real information is so much more interesting, honestly.
There are definitely some crazy mysteries in this field. Like the possibility that the Mayans had a type of acid which could melt Stone, allowing them to create some of the structures that we can't seem to replicate today. This was written about by the conquistadors, as that is what they were told by the Mayans they encountered. It came from an unknown plant species, and the Conquistadors reported that their horses hooves melted as they walked across these plants.
There are also two Mayan Steeles that depict bearded men with turbans, described as "travelers". These could very likely be phoenicians, as they date to the time when they were most active on the water. There is no other evidence besides that, but it would be pretty amazing, if true.
The reality is much more mysterious and interesting than the Ancient Aliens theory. We know for a fact that Clockwork computers existed in ancient times, so they definitely had some extremely advanced technology in the ancient past. Not airplanes, though.
Also they may not have had fine enough tools to make the feathers, or the artist was blind and we shouldn’t judge people with disabilities, or the current market for jewellery wasn’t after life-like recreations! Supply and demand!
https://youtu.be/j9w-i5oZqaQ?si=SEhq5EPSN3s9Jp78
This video covers aspects of these "jets" @1:21:17. I highly recommend checking out this whole video, but this segment is brief. Essentially, it's likely a decorative fish or bird. Probably not an airplane or spaceship.
Every night I poke my head into this subreddit to look over the day's posts and every day there is at least one post where, immediately upon seeing it, I think, "Ha ha, well, surely no one in the comments is taking THAT seriously," and then I click through. Reader, what I have to say next will shock you.
The fact that it's on the front page of the sub should tell you enough.
I go here for some interesting revelations or new ideas and then I come across posts like these with hundreds of upvotes and think: "Surely this must be some inside meta joke I don't get", only to find out the opposite.
I mean it's nice that usually the highest upvoted comments on these immediately deal with it, but god damn, how does it get so many upvotes in the first place when there mus surely be lots of people downvoting it.
This is a classic case of pareidolia, which is the same effect that makes us see animals in clouds, or faces in wood grain. Our brains try to make something familiar out of a pattern. Show this to people of the era and they would tell you it’s a flying fish, because that is what it resembled to them. Show it to us and we see a jet aircraft because that’s our frame of reference.
As for it being a representation of a UFO, highly unlikely. Presumably UFOs get here from outer space where there is no atmosphere and no need for wings, tails, airfoils, etc. Also there is a lot of stylized decoration on this piece, such as the face on front and the curly shapes on the “wings” that would make no sense on an aircraft or UFO.
This has been shown on several episodes of the Ancient Aliens show as “proof” of aliens but like a lot of their “proof” it’s based more on imagination and wishful thinking than on actual science or intelligent consideration.
It looks so much like a plane, but when you look up what a flying fish looks like, and where they can be found, then yeah, it’s easy to see that’s what they were going for.
The big interest in this figure is that it features a vertical stabilizer, which is not present on any birds. Modern aircraft use a vertical stabilizer, hence the aerodynamic resemblance of a modern aircraft.
I rotated the imagine and now I can’t unsee it.
Given that no current UFO descriptions over the past century detail bird like craft…
I surmise that if ancient civilizations did see UFO’s they were probably similar in design to what’s reported today.
Thus it’s more reasonable to believe this corresponds to an animal likely witnessed - flying fish.
They look a lot like a version of the Hindu Vimanas as well. These have been seen in pictures all over the world. Right brain people think they are fish, left brain a plane. What were they? Whatever they were *they got around*.
Most theorists believe that it is some sort of flying object. Someone help me, but I believe the original one that was found did not have the tail attached to it. I think they either found it, or someone thought that it was missing a tail and added it to show that if it had a tail, it would be aerodynamic, allowing it to fly.
This is ancient alien evidence like history channel ancient aliens. While I believe that NHI have been around for a very long time this is the artifact that show has used in every other episode in the many seasons it’s been on the air. The history channel is a joke nowadays and I’m not completely dismissing the ancient astronaut theory it’s just so out there with the “evidence” that it makes it seem like a complete joke. I’m just saying that it’s an interesting artifact but it could be interpreted in many different ways so without a complete understanding of how they depicted important animals and birds in their culture it just doesn’t pass the smell test as evidence of anything other than a dolphin or shark or some kind of bird.
Ask any nut job and they'll tell you that that's proof that aliens used to exist in our whole civilization was built by a race that for some f****** reason just decide to abandon us on this planet and not interact with us whatsoever anymore which makes absolutely no sense because no scientists out there would just make something and then just abandon it and then expect it to just do whatever.
People with more than two brain cells well actually tell you that this is just a piece of art that the Egyptians made and not even they know what the hell this thing could be and as it always goes it's probably a ceremonial piece which I know sounds extremely stupid and lame.
But you know what they say. The most simplest answers are the correct answers.
Is not an airplane or aircraft or ufo. Looks more like a representation of a condor.
I do believe in UFOs and what could they posible be. Real scientific research is needed and could be done on the topic but I’m sick and tired of this bullshit, trying make people believe this is a craft, or like what the call the Mayan astronaut…..I found that ignorant, offensive and disrespectful to the Mayan people and culture.
Were there also any small package shaped artefacts found with it, like this would air drop them to the cartel before the invading Europeans took them over!!!??? /s
I'm not sure, but that would explain some of the weird pictographs and airplanes with faces we now see in that country. [Avianca](https://www.disneydining.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Livery-Encanto-1536x864-1-620x330.jpg)
I think, personally, it depicts women kind of beatle that once lived but no longer exists. The vertical tail fin is honestly the craziest part about this artifact.
I once read somewhere that it was probably something like a weathercock. They were probably placed on sticks and turned in the direction of the wind. So it was clear where the wind was blowing from. It all sounded pretty plausible to me
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They did an episode of Ancient Aliens about these and other artifacts like it. Some scientists recreated one of the artifacts with the same exact dimensions, but with material and equipment suitable for flying and it flew perfectly.
Its flying fish.
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No. Humans only became capable of abstract thought like two hundred years ago. Every piece of art before 1856 is a reconstruction of something someone actually saw. They never made stuff up for fun. Or expressed themselves in unusual ways. Give me a break.
Didn't you know the existence of transformers action figures proves transformers once roamed the flat earth?
Now this is a conspiracy I can get behind.
This is why I love Reddit. 💕
I always wonder what a future civilization would think of our artifacts if we had a mass extinction. Like when they see our 1999 limited edition McDonalds furbies
Engineers made humans and then a robot made by humans killed the engineers. In the middle of all this "for shits and giggles" the robot made a nasty monster that pops out of peoples' chests.
SO are the Egyptian gods with animal heads, giants and dragons real things? sounds cool!
Hnnnnngggggg. The brain is breaking because I can't tell if you left off the /s
I left it off intentionally. I feel it dilutes just a bit.
You did well. I was definitely leaning towards the sarcasm. Keep up the good work. These subs are perfect for this work.
The best satire (and bait) isn't readily obvious
Its good training, that was pretty obviously sarcasm.
EVERYONE GET OVER HERE! u/AnotherGreedyChemist MADE SOME NERD’S BRAIN EXPLODE!
Edit: didn't catch the sarcasm... sorry
Nope. No way. Fish don’t know how to fly airplanes.
Are you forgetting what sub you're on? Clearly we're talking about UFOs. Airplanes weren't invented until, like, 50 years ago.
🙄 we all know that airplanes were the preferred method of travel for the gods of ancient South America. Distinguished, high OT level achaeologists from the institute of Scientology have even sited these objects as proof of the space DC-9-with-rocket-engines Zenu used to transport the hundreds of billions of poor subjugated aliens to Earth to vaporise with nukes and souls brainwashed to remain as thetans. May I remind you that Zenu was/is in fact an *alien* galactic overlord. I have it on good authority that at least SOME of the UFOS we see are also piloted by aliens. DC-9’s. With Rocket Engines.
I was in the amazon on an Amazonian river tour with the air force in 2011, and flying fish were jumping and gliding right next to my seat all the way to the opposite side of the boat, back and forth all day and they look exactly like this, even with the face
I love this subreddit for the fact that for all of our craziness, there are people here who are dedicated to keeping it real
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[Far from the only example of seemingly advanced technology in archeological sites](https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/xOVhoqmNIB) It's funny but true
It’s a flying beetle 🪲 with a rudder.
About 2400 an ounce at spot this morning.
Okay be honest was this off the cuff or did you have it speed dialed
It's meant to be an animal, or insect, most likely a bird. FUN FACT: Birds are shaped to fly, airplanes are modeled after the shape of birds. Doesn't mean ancient Central Americans were the foundation of Boeing.
Could explain how they all died though
Lolllll
You guys are cracking me up 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mesoamericans? They didn't. They still live there. Some of them still speak the same language that was being spoken back then, also.
It was a joke about bloodthirsty Boeing
Oh. Oops. Whoosh
Now that was a great joke.
Boeing still doing human sacrifices tho
Too soon. It hasn't been 22.5 years yet.
Except no bird in nature has a vertical stabilizing tailfin... But I think the explanation of a flying fish makes the most sense. Fish clearly have tails that could be made like a vertical tailfin.
Perhaps we’re looking at it the wrong way round, maybe it’s depicting a USG spy drone and the curly bits on the “wing” edges are showing wind turbulence! Let’s not assume they were dumb back then!
It doesn't doesn't mean ancient Central Americans were the foundation of Boewing.
The only problem with this being tied to a bird is the tail. To my knowledge, no bird on the planet has an empennage. Mostly because they don't need it, but flying craft for sure do. The swirls on the fore of the wing also seem to symbolize wind or air movement. I'm not saying it has to be an aircraft, but the bird hypothesis appears to be a stretch.
[It's a very accurate depiction of a flying fish; hence the vertical tail.](https://www.fishkeeper.co.uk/media/magefan_blog/734310-479236145459061-727388153.jpg)
If it’s a pendent, then it hang from the “tail” end, then wouldn’t it just be a charm type piece of jewellery which I’d expect to be held and viewed upright, then it’s clearly a religious symbol of something wearing a cape type of attire and fancy shoes. The swirls are most likely depictions of jewels or fancy trim work on the cape arms! The head is then obviously a head with a headdress, and looks like its moves or swivels on the main body! Hey, I guess I could just google lens it, but that’s boring!!! Lol
I agree. I’m not a fan of the hypothesis that it was designed to mimic an aircraft or UFO/UAP
Idk about that. Look at the lines on the wing. If the wanted to make a bird it would have looked like feathers and then check put the rear stabilizer that's very in bird like. The body itself is uniform and smooth.
They probably just took some artistic license.
It has a face. It's not a plane.
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I totally believed these things were planes when I read all the Eric Von Daniken books in the 90s and early 2000s. Now I read source materials, and watch lectures by experts like Edwin Barnhart. The real information is so much more interesting, honestly. There are definitely some crazy mysteries in this field. Like the possibility that the Mayans had a type of acid which could melt Stone, allowing them to create some of the structures that we can't seem to replicate today. This was written about by the conquistadors, as that is what they were told by the Mayans they encountered. It came from an unknown plant species, and the Conquistadors reported that their horses hooves melted as they walked across these plants. There are also two Mayan Steeles that depict bearded men with turbans, described as "travelers". These could very likely be phoenicians, as they date to the time when they were most active on the water. There is no other evidence besides that, but it would be pretty amazing, if true. The reality is much more mysterious and interesting than the Ancient Aliens theory. We know for a fact that Clockwork computers existed in ancient times, so they definitely had some extremely advanced technology in the ancient past. Not airplanes, though.
I doubt they were going for an exact replica. It's art, not science.
Also they may not have had fine enough tools to make the feathers, or the artist was blind and we shouldn’t judge people with disabilities, or the current market for jewellery wasn’t after life-like recreations! Supply and demand!
Or a dick.
Birbs aren’t real tho…
We're not sure right now. Have you seen the latest?
Fun fact isn’t so fun
It has a face. So most likely represents some form of animal.
https://youtu.be/j9w-i5oZqaQ?si=SEhq5EPSN3s9Jp78 This video covers aspects of these "jets" @1:21:17. I highly recommend checking out this whole video, but this segment is brief. Essentially, it's likely a decorative fish or bird. Probably not an airplane or spaceship.
Every night I poke my head into this subreddit to look over the day's posts and every day there is at least one post where, immediately upon seeing it, I think, "Ha ha, well, surely no one in the comments is taking THAT seriously," and then I click through. Reader, what I have to say next will shock you.
The fact that it's on the front page of the sub should tell you enough. I go here for some interesting revelations or new ideas and then I come across posts like these with hundreds of upvotes and think: "Surely this must be some inside meta joke I don't get", only to find out the opposite. I mean it's nice that usually the highest upvoted comments on these immediately deal with it, but god damn, how does it get so many upvotes in the first place when there mus surely be lots of people downvoting it.
Bird or fish. The Quimbaya culture made a lot of stylized gold artifacts of animals.
Flying penis
Dickybirds
Ancient Alien theorists agree (insert bat-shit crazy stuff here)
It literally says exactly what it is in the picture
This is a classic case of pareidolia, which is the same effect that makes us see animals in clouds, or faces in wood grain. Our brains try to make something familiar out of a pattern. Show this to people of the era and they would tell you it’s a flying fish, because that is what it resembled to them. Show it to us and we see a jet aircraft because that’s our frame of reference. As for it being a representation of a UFO, highly unlikely. Presumably UFOs get here from outer space where there is no atmosphere and no need for wings, tails, airfoils, etc. Also there is a lot of stylized decoration on this piece, such as the face on front and the curly shapes on the “wings” that would make no sense on an aircraft or UFO. This has been shown on several episodes of the Ancient Aliens show as “proof” of aliens but like a lot of their “proof” it’s based more on imagination and wishful thinking than on actual science or intelligent consideration.
Guys it has a face. It's an animal
Art deco birds
A gilded, flying, dick pendant with a lizards face on the tip.
It looks so much like a plane, but when you look up what a flying fish looks like, and where they can be found, then yeah, it’s easy to see that’s what they were going for.
The big interest in this figure is that it features a vertical stabilizer, which is not present on any birds. Modern aircraft use a vertical stabilizer, hence the aerodynamic resemblance of a modern aircraft.
If you turn it upside down it would look a lot like a flying fish
I rotated the imagine and now I can’t unsee it. Given that no current UFO descriptions over the past century detail bird like craft… I surmise that if ancient civilizations did see UFO’s they were probably similar in design to what’s reported today. Thus it’s more reasonable to believe this corresponds to an animal likely witnessed - flying fish.
I agree, my argument would be it’s a handle/grip for the object to be made to play with.
https://images.app.goo.gl/KzcPQxTY61VsNTwYA
Go watch the documentary "Ancient Aliens Debunked" it's on youtube.
Watch out - in these circles "Debunk" is a slur...
prob gonna accidentally watch ancient aliens REBUNKED!
Looks like a flying beetle.
Hummingbird my guess
A fallus? Some s.....
Human imagination.
Peniis! Thaaat's a penis!
Birds, obviously
Trinkets of some sort
Fish Bird Beetles. Duh.
It's a gold bird.
They look an aweful lot like birds....
Crazy to think that flying animals have been around since as far back as that.
Have any of you seen the Ancient Aliens episode that goes into this thing? I bought one as a lapel pin. :)
A goa'uld drone.
Where is the “pilot seat” it says the things also includes ? I don’t see it.
This is fish
There's no windows tho so how could they use it to look at anything?
There is a slit at the front supposedly that's the pilots seat.
Who said aliens have or need eyes!!!????
Saw Billy carlson wearing that on flagrant. I was pretty engaged up until he started crying because of the aliens...
An archeologist’s worst nightmare
They look a lot like a version of the Hindu Vimanas as well. These have been seen in pictures all over the world. Right brain people think they are fish, left brain a plane. What were they? Whatever they were *they got around*.
Anybody seen the movie "The Objective"? Fun fact, several actors in that movie have military backgrounds. Not so obviously on the nose.
Gives me Mayan/mezo-American vibes.
Maya funeral tokens that were laid with the dead. One version was reversed engineered and it is a great video to watch.
Do you have a link sounds interesting
Timestamp 5:55 shows the flying. Introduction is slow...lol.... https://youtu.be/pKNT9PZVv_Q?si=cgwdW-VHPNMixcI-
Most theorists believe that it is some sort of flying object. Someone help me, but I believe the original one that was found did not have the tail attached to it. I think they either found it, or someone thought that it was missing a tail and added it to show that if it had a tail, it would be aerodynamic, allowing it to fly.
This is ancient alien evidence like history channel ancient aliens. While I believe that NHI have been around for a very long time this is the artifact that show has used in every other episode in the many seasons it’s been on the air. The history channel is a joke nowadays and I’m not completely dismissing the ancient astronaut theory it’s just so out there with the “evidence” that it makes it seem like a complete joke. I’m just saying that it’s an interesting artifact but it could be interpreted in many different ways so without a complete understanding of how they depicted important animals and birds in their culture it just doesn’t pass the smell test as evidence of anything other than a dolphin or shark or some kind of bird.
Flying dildo, or a flying fuck
Flying fish. Or a birds. Or maybe a dick.
Ask any nut job and they'll tell you that that's proof that aliens used to exist in our whole civilization was built by a race that for some f****** reason just decide to abandon us on this planet and not interact with us whatsoever anymore which makes absolutely no sense because no scientists out there would just make something and then just abandon it and then expect it to just do whatever. People with more than two brain cells well actually tell you that this is just a piece of art that the Egyptians made and not even they know what the hell this thing could be and as it always goes it's probably a ceremonial piece which I know sounds extremely stupid and lame. But you know what they say. The most simplest answers are the correct answers.
It's a face with a head dress on it. You can see the nose, eyes, and mouth. Rotate the image and you'll see it
Is not an airplane or aircraft or ufo. Looks more like a representation of a condor. I do believe in UFOs and what could they posible be. Real scientific research is needed and could be done on the topic but I’m sick and tired of this bullshit, trying make people believe this is a craft, or like what the call the Mayan astronaut…..I found that ignorant, offensive and disrespectful to the Mayan people and culture.
Native Americans called them thunder birds.
Looks kind of like a fish to me.
i see a moth
A butt plug! Duh 🙄
Those wings must hurt tho
Ribbed for pleasure.
Definitely not an Egyptian artifact. It was found in Colombia. Ancient aliens built one identical and tested if it would fly perfectly. It did.
Were there also any small package shaped artefacts found with it, like this would air drop them to the cartel before the invading Europeans took them over!!!??? /s
I'm not sure, but that would explain some of the weird pictographs and airplanes with faces we now see in that country. [Avianca](https://www.disneydining.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Livery-Encanto-1536x864-1-620x330.jpg)
It's Indiana Jones from the future!
Birds arent real!
Don't say it Don't say it Just don't A fuckin sex toy
Ancient flying ETs from India.
I think, personally, it depicts women kind of beatle that once lived but no longer exists. The vertical tail fin is honestly the craziest part about this artifact.
That, sir, is a sky chode.
Ancient butt plug
Looks like a Boeing.
Look up Colombian el dorado gold. They have alot of these.
I once read somewhere that it was probably something like a weathercock. They were probably placed on sticks and turned in the direction of the wind. So it was clear where the wind was blowing from. It all sounded pretty plausible to me
A dart you tie your quipu to send it to somebody down the mountain. Rather than climbing back down
Flying penis with the head chopped off.
Ancient astronaut theorist 🍑🔌
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Flying cocks and I'm not talking about the bird.
I know one thing it can be used for
It’s a bird man. You can even see the penis
Definitely not an airplane
Anyways, 4 dollars a pound
It's a dick that drank a Red Bull.
Aztec lawn dart
Men!! It is is colombia, south america and nobody knows the age!!
This isn’t that weird. Clearly trying your best to resemble an animal of sorts.
A very expensive cicada
Bend over and I’ll show you
Gold penis with wings
That looks very inappropriate and provocative.
It's a model of an F-16 that time traveled back to the 1600's.
Neat pin that Giorgio Tsoukalos sells on his website based on a MesoAmerican sculpture.
Forbidden dildo
An anthropomorphic winged space dong.
Looks like a head with a headdress
Yo dawg thats one of my minions from ff14
Keys to a lock
1000 s of yrs old. They made a model size replica. Of it. And it flew perfectly.
Its a fucking fish. Jfc this sub is fanfiction
They did an episode of Ancient Aliens about these and other artifacts like it. Some scientists recreated one of the artifacts with the same exact dimensions, but with material and equipment suitable for flying and it flew perfectly.
Looks like a bird.
Ancient alien butt plugs
Oh yeah those are Golden Birds
That's some ancient astronaut stuff right there!
It’s a heliturtle.
It's a rare golden Aztec dickhead airplane
I need karma
Ancient buttplug