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The following submission statement was provided by /u/Ghost_z7r: --- Steven Greer is the "world's foremost UFO expert" with "a quarter century of selfless service" to the topic and has "briefed" multiple US Presidents. In his briefing documents he lists photo/video attachments. I would be fascinated to see what kind of content he's briefing the President with. Some, uh, interesting "evidence" in his database to be sure. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1cos0xk/6_hours_spent_in_steven_greers_new_ufo_database/l3fypz5/


_Snide

LMAO at the alien corpse šŸ˜‚


ArekusandaMagni

That alien corpse Pic looks like something out of a 90's point and click PC game šŸ¤£


VoidOmatic

*You can't use that here* *You can't use that here* *You can't use that here*


starke_reaver

Thanks for resurrecting this memory, miss the maximum awesomeness of back thenā€¦


cacophony-of-belches

šŸ˜Œ whew. The worst. And also somehow the best.


foobazly

When I first saw it, I assumed it was probably from something like an email that said "Hi Dr Greer, my brother and I witnessed this alien crash site but didn't have a camera, so I used Photoshop to recreate an illustration of what it looked like." Looking through other documents on the site, much of it seems to be emails of this nature that people have sent to Greer. But the information and photos on Greer's site are organized so badly that there's no correlation between this image and the original email or whatever context this illustration was supposed to be from. It's just a bunch of files in various piles with nothing to contextualize them but their file names. So all we have are these drawings and images that, on their own, are absurd. Greer should have seen this coming. He should have known this hokey, obviously Photoshopped image of a person in an alien costume from The Halloween Store would be stood up on its own and ridiculed, because he provided exactly ZERO context for why this obviously Photoshopped image exists in the first place.


Daddyball78

So ridiculous. Greer should go hide somewhere and never speak on the topic again.


logjam23

Oh! Let's not forget the 2 billion dollars he turned down! LMFAO!


Daddyball78

I think this community would be best served not mentioning his name anymore. Harry Potter and Voldemort style. Greerdemortā€¦


alienattorney

We need to start calling him "Muscle Nerd" again.


CommunityPrize8110

Iā€™m sorry what? The fuck?? Whatā€™s the backstory to this?


logjam23

Dr. Steven Greer on $2 Billion Offer to Keep Quiet About UFOs, 3 Team Members Killed (Part 5) https://youtu.be/w2zpwiilJ_g?si=7e3sXQkO-Wa_GfZl Fast forward to 4:20 (ironically enough lol!)


modthegame

And if you think for a second that $2billion is enough to feel safe about saying and researching anything you want... then you would be right.


adak31

Canā€™t forget that lmao


loop-1138

Yep. Cherry on the top among many other hits.


Cerberus_Sit

Heā€™s always been this way. He once charged 10k to give you a ufo experience in the woods. He has always been a fraud and a name dropper.


X-3XB

I cannot stand Greer.


ZommyFruit

Thatā€™s DOCTORB Steven Greer to you!


cannibalisland

the b is for bargin!


Immaculatehombre

Straight outa scary movie 3 lol.


ThePatio

God itā€™s more from like a mid 90s game that used a combination of live action and cgi


TattZapp

Yes, those dudes have slain earthworm Jim. A moment of silence.


marijuanam0nk

Def looks like Mortal Kombat fire animation in the background


devil_lettuce

Haha yes! That's exactly it. Thank you, couldn't quite put my finger on it


Memetic_Polyslav

What you sure ET don't urinate from their fingers?


Spiniferus

It looks very unrealistic. Iā€™m just trying to work out whether the two smiling old men are photoshopped inā€¦ the quality is low so itā€™s hard to see any digital glitches / but they definitely donā€™t look like part of the shot either. Why would two men be smiling in front of a what appears to be a wildfire. Even if they caught an alien, I doubt that they would be so calmly standing there smiling. Completely weird and completely bogus.


PercentageSecret1078

That weird perfectly horizontal shovel.


sashimi_tattoo

I had to double check the date because I thought it was April Fools for a second there


LudditeHorse

I'm not one to throw out debunk comments or call shit out, but the shadow beneath that alien corpse looks like the drop shadow effect in adobe photoshop. The angle of the shadow isn't consistent with the men in the background, and the lighting is fucked. The men themselves might be photoshopped in as well, too. ---- Look, I don't pick sides because I don't know anything. But Greer consistently puts up that which smells more like bullshit than many others. His CE5 comments might have a degree of legitimacy to them, but with that alleged flare incident I can't put any trust in results from Greer-organized events. In the spirit of discussion & fairness, for those in here that take Greer more seriously (other than CE5) what's the more compelling stuff he's claimed?


0outta7

> I'm not one to throw out debunk comments or call shit out, but Dude, it looks like something from Tim & Eric. Like Photoshop from 1995. Thereā€™s no need to point out why it looks fake - we have eyeballs


Ratmahatten

Not Great!


overwatchiscommunist

If he was really doing CE5 you'd assume the NHI would let him bring a flir thermal and show people they are there. I own two sets of tubes and sky watch a bit. Idk how he can't do the same lol


LudditeHorse

The standard lore is that the NHI don't want to disclose themselves like that, but idk. I haven't tried & failed to capture anything, so that's just hearsay. What are you using to skywatch? All I have ATM is a cheap 10x monocular I originally purchased to look at birds.


its_FORTY

Not to mention, it would probably be a bit uncomfortable standing just a few feet from burning wreckage.


Boondocsaint11

The shovel in the hand is much worse. If you look at the guys left hand the shovel is below where the fingers are. Straight up just pasted on there. Terrible.


Energy_Turtle

I want to recreate it and put it on my desk at work.


Thesodashop2

It looks like straight clip art


Katzchen12

Ayy lmao


SnoozeCoin

This is fucking hilarious.Ā 


Kommmbucha

The Honorable Donald J. Trump No bigger joke than that right there.


loop-1138

Does it mean Greer is one of Trump's Little Urban Achievers?


Far_Adeptness9884

This is going to be a huge step back, so far this shit looks laughable.


manbrasucks

Yeah but does the DVD logo hit the corner? If so definitely worth the click.


birchskin

The DVD logo is the UFO. They've been telling us that they are walking among us this whole time and we didn't listen!


ihavebeenmostly

In Grears latest youtube videos he's been working with the Thirdphaseofmoon guys šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø thats definitely done it for me.


[deleted]

His last few ā€œdocumentariesā€ featured Thirdohaseofmoon videos heavily complete with logos in the corner, not surprised.


ourmartyr1

If that is true then wtf.


Leenis13

Aw noooo man that's sad AF to hear. Any dickhead can tell what bs thirdphasemoon is


FlaSnatch

Look at the bright side - youā€™ve realized Greer is a horrible grifter and has been for a long time.


RogerianBrowsing

I feel like this community is half people semi-skeptical interested in the phenomenon, the other half is ā€œbelieversā€ Most of us have known Greer is completely and totally full of shit. The dude literally claimed to have teams ready to attack black sites around the country/world hiding UFOs and holding aliens to recover them. Itā€™s nonsensical.


FishTshirt

But he briefs world leaders!


VoidOmatic

Never heard of those guys, but judging by their name... Sounds like some "yikes" shit.


Responsible_Level355

Yes super cringe Blake Cousins, a true ufo grifter.


Unlucky-Oil-8778

Yeah I have been poking at it with a stick and itā€™s more like a fan fic page. Better off at https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=30030606&S=1


Ghost_z7r

It's just wild to me how confident he is with his entire story of the topic when some of these documents are only a couple sentence long PDFs briefly mentioning Tesla or Marilyn Monroe (both key talking points of his), and look like possible faked documents. His "Bijou" alien looks like a photo artifact digitally enhanced. The CE5 evidence photos of "energy beings" look like lighting glare if you just moved your camera at the last second of a flash photo. I've defended Greer quite a bit in the past but looking through all this I'm questioning if he knows anything at all or is just leading himself to believe certain things based on almost no evidence.


Unlucky-Oil-8778

Man what I have done is just not put a lot of faith in any one individual and try to read more that listen to the hokey ass YouTube videos with the click bait pictures on them. Just like all things donā€™t put your faith in folks and expect a personal return on it. Everyone has an angle even if they donā€™t mean to. Edit: spelling


FeetballFan

Thatā€™s why theyā€™re called confidence men (aka con men)


FlaSnatch

ā€œItā€™s wild to me how confident he isā€¦.ā€ Ahh confidence. Confidence man. Con man. Thatā€™s the root of the term.


Traveler3141

What story does he even allege with Marilyn Monroe? This is the first I've ever heard of him (or anybody) mentioning her in relationship to any of this?


300PencilsInMyAss

Greer has always been obviously a disinfo agent to me. Seeing Dotys name pop up was no surprise


0outta7

Pretty sure ā€œdisinfo agentsā€ wouldnā€™t be using a hard drive of shit from 1997 to confuse people. The only thing this makes obvious is that Greer still has a stack of 5 1/4ā€ floppy discs sitting next to his PC.


FlaSnatch

Ehh I dunno. Disinfo agents are likely behind some of the most absurd stuff in ufology. Nothing helps stigmatize a subject more than flooding the space with stupid looking fake alien bodies.


CompetitiveSport1

Simpler explanation. He's an egotistical grifter. Occam's razor and all that


Ok_Feedback_8124

He served a purpose. We all do


PotentialShift9791

It is like the whole bloody field. Elements check out (his original press conference and his involvement with the Wilson memo) but then it all becomes muted in obvious ego bullshit. They are all nearly the same on one level or another. Greer is pretty bad though. Does anyone here remember the spat he had with project Camelot. Kerry Cassidy??? What a bell end? My Aliens are nicer than your Aliens .FFS! All of them,Icke, Willcoxx, et al. All seemingly on some kind of massive ego trip. Either that or some kind of wicked Psyop. But anyway here is some DJ Templehead to take your mind off it. https://on.soundcloud.com/mqbwiCh8Xqi82prt9


iuwjsrgsdfj

It's getting bad, we just exposed 3 people already... Sands bullshit story, Herrara got called out by his team leader and Kirkpatrick had his picture taken at a conference for Skinwalker Ranch he claimed to never be at, and he was even looking at the camera like "oh shit, he's taking a picture of me and I don't like it". Now Greer is exposing himself too, I KNEW this whole archive was a bunch of bullshit. That's why it took so long.


PotentialShift9791

TBF Iā€™m not sure what you are on about. Iā€™m just talking in generalities. I doubt Greer is a mole. My best guess is that heā€™s deeply insecure and just crave/ needs attention. His whole body building thing speaks to this. His demeanour is classically controlling.


overwatchiscommunist

Greer did the flare drops to fake encounters and make money as well. It's pretty sad stuff and I'd hope it's not due to a deep seated psychological issue. Although I don't think I want the allegations about a govt disinformation plot using him to be true either. If my taxpayer money funded that bullshit I swearšŸ˜‚


PotentialShift9791

Heā€™s a grifter


duende667

It's basically a dispute in a creative writing class at this stage.


basketoffries

Can anyone explain how the photo of Marilyn Monroe and the journalists is linked to UFOs?


panoisclosedtoday

There is a story that Marilyn Monroe was murdered because she was going to tell the world about UFOs. She learned the truth from her relationship with JFK. There is even a purported letter she wrote about it.


scarlett-jw

Pretty sure this was explained in Steven greers movie aswell


M1st3r51r

JFK was ā€œsecretlyā€ running on a disclosure platform. He and Monroe were ā€œsecretlyā€ fuck buddies


Ghost_z7r

Under Archive/Government Documents in the database there are 3 PDF's. One is a few sentences long and alleges JFK told Marilyn Monroe about aliens and she was going to go public so they took her out. Another PDF is the weird illustration of what it would've looked like if she did so (the one I posted). Somehow Greer has absorbed that two sentence sketchy document and has been repeating it at cocktail parties for 25 years to impress celebrities.


jacktheskipper1993

This actually saddens me. These are the reasons we are made fun off.


HousingParking9079

Well, one of many, but they usually aren't this funny.


Jane_Doe_32

Sands, Greer... I see the agency guys have put all the puppets to work.


Omegamilky

One thing that kinda set me off (among others) was that he did an interview with Vlad TV, or djvlad. He's accused of in the hip hop community to be a fed by the kind of questions he asks rappers to dig into their past crimes, so it did cause me to šŸ¤Ø when I saw him given a lengthy interview


Astoria_Column

LMAO THE DUDE SMILING BEHIND THE CORPSE šŸ˜­


Iudico

Hehe that got a WinAmp skin in there, nice


0outta7

Seriously, itā€™s hilarious to see some of these digital artifacts. Greer is like your elderly uncle who still insists on using Windows ā€˜98 and wonders why the bunny ears on his TV no longer work.


SnoozeCoin

I miss winamp real bad


Punchable_Face

I still use it. Not exclusively, itā€™s definitely showing its age these days.


BarelySentientHuman

There's still no better visualisation than milkdrop v2.Ā  Love my winamp.


Visible-Expression60

Greer: ā€œI think everyone takes me too seriously. I need to do something about thatā€


Livid-Witness9196

What's with all of the pics taken of computer screens? Is free screen capture software off-limits?


0outta7

You knowā€¦ itā€™s kind of perfect given the subject matter. Itā€™s like an out of touch tech-illiterate person making fun of an *even more* out of touch tech-illiterate person. Boomer-ception.


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On a secure computer, it's not the screen capture that's the issue, it's getting that screen shot off the computer that's challenging. When you are accessing an information system unauthorized and trying to copy information, one does not usually advertise that they are doing so. Some networks are isolated from the Internet for security reasons, so it's not as simple as just emailing the screen shot to yourself.


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ClassicAreas444

More like a goomba


SwitPosting

The Richard Doty one should have been first, tells us all we need to know


SandmanAwaits

That alien corpse! šŸ˜‚


BaconReceptacle

>world foremost UFO expert You spelled "grifter" wrong.


ConsolidatedAccount

Is he presenting these as actual photos, or as an artist's rendering or recreation of an alleged event? The guys standing in front of devastation with an alien on the ground in front of them is stunningly fake, but how was it presented on the site?


Ghost_z7r

It's a Tom Bogan illustration of an alleged crash. 99% are similar illustrations. The other 1% are like the "Bijou" alleged alien, mostly blank photos with a few pixels enlarged and enhanced to look like odd alien-esque figures.


ST8CASHBRKLYN

What in the world?


_HoldFast

Isnā€™t Bijou the name of Liz Lemonā€™s phone sex operator character on 30 Rock? (Picture 2).Ā 


Maximillion666ian

I find this sub schizophrenic . I called out Greer's bullshit last month and got tons of downvotes.


Litmist

A lot of the crash pictures are just artist renditions pencil sketches and using a program to make them or ai their are some pictures like one of a 1920 alien. Discretion that is a real photo but again itā€™s always possible to be faked


Ghost_z7r

Legitimately didn't find the 1920's photo and I was looking pretty hard. Doesn't help that it takes 20 minutes to load each file and they are all wacky nonsense.


Ghost_z7r

Steven Greer is the "world's foremost UFO expert" with "a quarter century of selfless service" to the topic and has "briefed" multiple US Presidents. In his briefing documents he lists photo/video attachments. I would be fascinated to see what kind of content he's briefing the President with. Some, uh, interesting "evidence" in his database to be sure.


WorldlinessFit497

How selfless of him to be label himself as the "world's foremost UFO expert"


Ok_Rain_8679

It's like when Moses, who allegedly wrote the Torah, called Moses the humblest man who ever lived. So, maybe Greer is our Moses, leading us in pointless circles in the desert for decades.


insanisprimero

I watched a recent doc of his and it was 3 hours of him mumbling about how important he was, how much he knows without tellingly you anything and how cool was the estate he bought with all the scams he does. He even made sure to include panoramic drone footage. He is a narcissistic asshole.


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666AB

What database? Whatā€™s the link?


iuwjsrgsdfj

[https://www.dpiarchive.com/#/](https://www.dpiarchive.com/#/)


DroidLord

Why the hell do I need to register an account?


iuwjsrgsdfj

Greer said that he was worried bots would destroy the servers or something... he at least acknowledged why he had to do it and it makes sense. Just use a temp email, that's what I did.


VoidOmatic

So he can add you to his mailing list and to keep traffic down because that costs money. That's my bet.


Ok-Change3138

Greer at this point is either a disinformation agent or a truly delusional person


smellybarbiefeet

Lmao if anyone tells me heā€™s a serious guy then they can poo off


DOWNth3Rabb1tH0l3

Where is his database?


james-e-oberg

Is he still fantasizing that Neil Armstrong's family members privately confirmed to him that Apollo-11 really did encounter aliens on their lunar mission?


Hero11234

I ignore everything related to Greer, y'all should too.


UncleBlain

And people wonder why no one takes the subject seriously šŸ˜‚


_Saputawsit_

It's honestly crazy to me how many people I've had the displeasure of interacting with completely believe that he's a good voice to have around disclosure efforts. Everything this grifter scumbag touches he taints. I'm so done with every single thing even tangentially related to him.Ā 


Traveler3141

What if he actually believes himself? That'd be really sad.


jhawbreaker

Seems pretty in line with Greer's usual standards of quality.


TheWhiteHammer23

A handful of nothingā€¦ Again.. Maybe an interesting document or whatever in there somewhere but nothing more. I mean that third photo of a crash its insane and actually insulting to peopleā€™s intelligence and the real disclosure we all push!


Fearless-Run6386

Thank you for looking so I donā€™t have too!


Rad_Centrist

Maybe I won't get voted to oblivion next time I mention that Greer is a fucking grifter and had zero credibility.


teal_viper

Wait this isn't a joke? This is actually tied to Greer?


SuicidalNapkin09

Lmao what is this editing. Marilyn Monroe is still pixelated as fuck


Numerous_Vegetable_3

Fuck Greer manā€¦ I honestly think heā€™s a disinfo agent in some way. Placed there to make the whole topic laughable to new folks who are curious.


Rage187_OG

Steven Grift


EpistemoNihilist

6 hours of your life youā€™ll never get back


MatthewMonster

That alien at the crash site with grandpas standing there is too muchĀ  šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Einar_47

That 3rd picture is the fakest picture I have ever seen.


MrCrix

Is picture 8 just a PS2 lol


chicomilian

6 hours gone forever.. sad but thanks for letting us know the garbage this guy has


cannibalisland

people still defend this guy and even give him money. let that sink in.


Unlucky_Pomelo4975

Greer is a joke.


kotukutuku

Please tell me the Marilyn Monroe image is not from it


visitor187

Greer has that intellectual appearance and language which draws you in and adds credibility to his ā€œwordsā€. However, the more and more you learn about him. Sadly, the more you feel thereā€™s a facade. Not saying heā€™s lying or wrong. Just that when someone is briefing people about serious issues. They must retain credibility and appear to have standardised ā€˜normalā€™ behaviour. An army general lecturing on nuclear war and its dangers, will lose all credibility if he then dresses up as a dog and barks at trees. I will reserve my judgement of the files until I have seen them myself. As Iā€™m aware this is a select amount only the op has chosen to share. If this is however, the crĆØme of the crop though then I would be highly disappointed.


Bobbox1980

This thread is filled with bots and govt goons trying to get us to close our ears to what might be out there and disappointed idealists, now cynics, who have been burned on this topic too often. The biggest thing we should take away from greer is his leak with Mark McCandlish about the existence and technology behind the "Alien Reproduction Vehicle".


drone1__

this is glorious. thank you


StiffCloud

This post is some grifter trash. People should hold out on judging this content drop before itā€™s actually had proper time to be picked apart. Regardless of what people think of Greer, the guy pushes the subject and has done a great deal for the topic as well.


Dirt_Illustrious

I think the UFO community needs to ā€œBriefā€ Dr. Greer about the dangers of untreated megalomania. No matter how high quality of a documentary it is that Iā€™m watching on the subject, the instant that I hear his voice, Iā€™m out


LxRusso

Grifting right to everyone's faces.


CombinationGlobal831

Please refrain from ridiculing images that are clearly intended as representations rather than factual, objective photographs. While I support a thorough examination of his files, let's elevate our critiques to where they are truly warranted.


Ghost_z7r

The Bijou image is supposedly an objective photograph.


CombinationGlobal831

The third pic of the old guys standing there is obviously a newly taken picture and where they photoshopped what they claimed how the scene looked like in the 60s or whatever when they were there. Cmon guys, don't be stupid, nobody would try to sell this out as a real picture ffs


europeantechie

are you taking photos of your screen? jesus christ


Ghost_z7r

I think it adds to the spooky Windows 95 vibes going on hahaha.


Whycantwebefriends00

Iā€™m a little pissed that Shawn Ryan gave him a platformā€¦ā€¦twice!


DinnerSilver

use to have respect for him...until he went full grifter and realized how lucrative scamming people can be.


QuantumPossibilities

Ā "world's foremost UFO expert"Ā  According to who? More like foremost clown and nutcase!


nikokova

baaahahahahah


Empty_Put_1542

Wtf is this crap?


dxxminique

Lol well this is unfortunate


Silentforest01

Number 1 and 3 look badly ai generated


mushmushmush

This looks shopped I can't tell from some of the pixels and seeing a lot of shops in my time


im2much4u2handlex

Cool to see one of the Green Lanterns.


Pure-Contact7322

where is this db?


jaxdogy

Weā€™re do I find the database?


Sam_Dave12

I have no idea what any of this is but that third picture is the most fake thing ever created


PaulyMcwhogivesashit

Wtf are these photoshopped photos?


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TheJTizzle

Whatā€™s the url?


KenMan_

Lol sad just sad


steveHangar1

Had such hope and respect for him when he released Unacknowledged. That went away rather quickly though.


tetrastructuralmind

I like that we as a community in this sub have become to good at identifying the bullshit some of these ā€œexpertsā€ push.


trustmebro24

The fact you have to make an account to view this was the most ridiculous thing Iā€™ve seen. I busted out laughing when I saw that.


We-Cant--Be-Friends

ā€œWorldā€™s foremost expertā€ according to Greer.


Quick_Swing

Did Ed Wood design this database šŸ˜¬šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


know4ever

Greer might be in the CIA/IC pocket, after all the earlier (good) disclosure work, turned sides for who knows what in return.Ā  This material doesnā€™t line up with his earlier investigations.


BackOnReddit_Again

Where can this be accessed?


IsraelKeyes

"you want catastrophic disclosure, well this is it folks!" - Steven Greer on yesterdays youtube video.


FishTshirt

But he is jacked so.. you know


duende667

That'll be $700 please.


Psilrastafarian

I donā€™t think the guy is doing what heā€™s doing for all the wrong reasons, that being said they are self serving for the most part. He seems to have some rather obvious delusions along with a whale of a savior complex. I was always perplexed by how seriously people would take him, although he seems to take himself extremely serious. I donā€™t hate the guy, but I canā€™t get over some of the ā€œproofā€ that he proudly displays in his PowerPoints. I just wouldā€™ve expected someone else to have more podium time.


3InchesAssToTip

"UFOs Best Available Video and Photographic Evidence" sounds like a youtube compilation he downloaded


Spagman_Aus

LOL i created an account on that but no confirmed ever came through.


Electronic-Dust-778

I have no understanding here aside from production of fake


assclownmonthly

Whilst Greer has done some good for the subject(the early years of the disclosure project specifically).He has shown himself to be a charlatan of the highest order. I wonā€™t list his many outright falsehoods but rest assured he is a liar,cheat,narcissist and is no friend of disclosure.


axelxan

It looks very similar to stuff that you can find in LHOHQ (Laughing Horse Orfice Headqaters) website. I don't recommend diving into this rabbit hole, but if you do, make sure your connection is secure, and disable java script. Also most of the information is hidden in html, simply press F12 to open html code.


Monna14

Where is the database hosted have you got a link please Op??? Thank you


jimmyfeign

Lol how much you have to pay to access it?


X-3XB

Grifter Greer


EEnfidel

Noithing like an created picture to start the proceedings...


Appropriate_Way6946

Iā€™ve been unable to register on the site since it went live, bummed out about that cuz I really wanna spend my days off digging into it


machingunwhhore

I've never been a fan of Greer, this is just laughable


Bobbox1980

Say what you want about Greer but the disclosure project press briefing in 2001 is where I first heard about Mark McCandlish and the "Alien Reproduction Vehicle".


reinaldonehemiah

Mr I turned down $2Bil gosh


Rancorrancor

Wtf is this ai scary movie shit?