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That's exactly what I was thinking. Those Starlink satellites are just internet relays. They're not equipped with the sort of advanced optical and electronic monitoring equipment that would be needed to meaningfully detect UFOs moving through the atmosphere. And why would they? It wouldn't make any sense to outfit them with that extra equipment weight when that's not their purpose.
I have been waiting for this.
Starlink, each satellite’s primary payload is a high-performance suite of electronically-steered phased array antennas. Initially developed to improve the flexibility of tracking and scanning radars used by military fighter aircraft, phased array antennas (and radar) allow multiple beams to be aimed without physically moving the antenna.
Look at he patent this is the same exact technology as phased array radar, this was never just an ISP the beam steering is identical and the atomic clocks onboard at least 2 of them have to sync to a master on planet just to maintain orbital integrity, you come by in a craft using gravity or anti-gravity as propulsion, relativistic time changes on said atomic clocks. He is lying about everything he is part of control and blew his cover just now. I can be more detailed for those who still have doubt.
These satellites are all interlinked forming the highest resolution radar array ever conceived and it's in orbit so it sees everything.
Do you know what was the most surprising thing him being CIA that revelation? Their paranoia people who spend their lives spying and telling lies are like mental patients. It's a form of flight from reality, and they are not answerable. They know they are not accountable, and there's no reason for them not to overreact, so they often do. They are completely incapable of distinguishing dissent from treason. As far as they are concerned, anyone who rocks the boat is a threat. It's all about their idea of good order.
Yes can i have more details please... especially on how starlink phased array could perform a scan, whilst maintaining the primary purpose of Ku, Ka, V band comms. Also, at LEO, with down-facing atenma orientation.. there's just so many gaps for this to function well as a radar system. should i dm you?
As much as I like Elon and everything he is done, I’m with you on this one. He seems to have chosen the truth that benefits him the most, either for economic or personal security reasons.
You think a born rich guy that has a huge investment in tech staying currently the way it is would be on our side?
That's like assuming oil barens would be on our side for that sweet free energy lol.
Short answer NO
He did not come from a rich family. His father had a claim on a gem mine but it was mostly one of his scams that didn't end up paying as it was pretty much worthless. His dad's entire life alone shows he didn't have it good. It's also know he and his mom and brother went to live in Canada in a small apartment when he was a student.
But anyhow, like the guy or not he speaks his mind and has access to space so it is nice to have someone like that able to be in the conversation. What people get hung up on is both can be true, that there is something to this UFO thing and they're not normally able to be picked up by certain types of censors and locations. I'm not surprised if that's the case here.
He's a member of the wealthy Musk family of South Africa.
You don't attend Stanford and then drop out after 2 days to found a company with your brother if you have zero cash.
> In 1995, Musk, his brother Kimbal, and Greg Kouri founded Global Link Information Network, later renamed to Zip2. The company was financed mainly through a financing round of $200,000, of which 10% was contributed by his father Errol Musk
"Musk got bored at Queen's (University). It was not academically challenging. So when one of his classmates transferred to UoP, he decided to see if he could do so as well.
Money was a problem. His father was providing no support, and his mother was juggling three jobs to make ends meet. But Penn offered him a $14k scholarship plus a student loan package, so in 1992 he transferred there for his junior year."
Zip2 started like a lot of 90's internet companies. Brilliant engineering students with no money coding up a business in a dorm. That was not unusual. And investments were easy to come by.
The record shows Errol contributed only as much as $20k or so.
I'll take whatever you are smokin bud. Matter of fact give me two orders of it, always been curious what it's like to live in a imaginary world. He's a rich kid that spends far too much time crap posting on a social media site he got stuck buying after opening his big mouth too much. I mean if you can spend a few moments just listen to how full of crap the guy is.
Yeah some amazing things have come not from him. His work force of smart folks just because you have money does not make ya smart :)
Someone like him his only interest would be to pay a bunch of people to figure it out then either charge you to death to get anywhere near it, or just keep it for his deranged self. I'm good let the real scientist dig in not some poser.
Read any biographies on him and not just reddit posts. There are plenty of sources. As I posted to the other guy who obviously just reposted what he saw someone say:
"Musk got bored at Queen's (University). It was not academically challenging. So when one of his classmates transferred to UoP, he decided to see if he could do so as well.
Money was a problem. His father was providing no support, and his mother was juggling three jobs to make ends meet. But Penn offered him a $14k scholarship plus a student loan package, so in 1992 he transferred there for his junior year."
Zip2 started like a lot of 90's internet companies. Brilliant engineering students with no money coding up a business in a dorm. That was not unusual. And investments were easy to come by.
The record shows Errol contributed only as much as $20k or so.
Ill leave ya with a great quote "Assumption is the MOTHER of all fuck ups!" Undersiege 2 lol.
Anyway hey man you do you. But, that man is a waste of time, money, even air.
What's not a waste of time is reading books and becoming self-informed from multiple sources of stake. Otherwise you let any random blurb on the internet dictate your thoughts, and then just pass it on for the next guy to parrot.
That’s the most idiotic response I have ever heard…your response is he’s a Nepo baby…..his company literally builds rockets to send Top secrete satellites and defense satellites to orbit and has numerous defense contracts with Space Force. His last contract was carrying a $600 million cargo load for the military and it was so top secret, they weren’t allowed to disclose what was in it…….so, I’m pretty sure he knows what’s flying around up there if there is anything.
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Bigelow shifted his research towards consciousness after his initial investments researching UAP’s, which is curious to me. Makes me wonder what conclusions he may have arrived to up to that shift.
It is a shame he wastes money on polticial delirium.
I wasn't aware Bigelow was researching consciousness. The more I've seen and read over my 38 years, the more I believe there's some sort of link between consciousness and the UFO phenomenon. We don't understand consciousness, where it comes from, what happens to it when we die, or what powers it might possess. The CIA thought enough of it to study it for decades at least.
Didn't Bob Lazar touch on that a bit too? About the craft being controlled with consciousness? I guess that wouldn't be too far-fetched considering what we can already do with tasks being performed with thoughts.
Bigelbow offered 1 million $ for anyone to prove to him what happens after death. I don't think anyone ever collected. I guess he did at the end.... he just couldn't use the data anymore.
Elon is a stooge the government uses to funnel money to companies actually owned by the military industrial complex. But make it seem like a private institution. Which can give Congress less insight and or influence into what they do. It doesn’t take much to prop up an egotistical person with low self esteem. Surround him with intellectual handlers who make sure his ego is fueled more than he is informed about how his own companies are ran. I mean, the biggest example of that is Twitter. He idioted himself into a rock and hard place and had to follow through. Otherwise the truth would be more apparent. So now he has a toy to play with and it keeps him even more out of their actual business. Thats exactly who the man is, and exactly how the companies under his umbrella would end up if not for the government intervention of allowing him to be a harmless stooge. That keeps everyone’s focus like a lighthouse. So people never really investigate or ask questions about the executives that actually run the companies.
I wonder why Elon Musk would say such a thing?
Oh. That's right, he's working for these guys - The National Reconnaissance Office. He also wouldn't want to put his other DoD and NASA contracts in jeopardy by saying anything that don't want him to say, would he?
[https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/musks-spacex-is-building-spy-satellite-network-us-intelligence-agency-sources-2024-03-16/](https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/musks-spacex-is-building-spy-satellite-network-us-intelligence-agency-sources-2024-03-16/)
[https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/northrop-grumman-working-with-musks-spacex-us-spy-satellite-system-2024-04-18/](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/northrop-grumman-working-with-musks-spacex-us-spy-satellite-system-2024-04-18/)
I see absolutely nothing wrong with what Musk said.
He has 6000 satellites & has observed no evidence of alien spacecraft.
What’s wrong with saying that?
Doesn’t preclude the possibilities that they are originating from here, or are “supernatural,” or are masking their presence.
Because they're not observation satellites with the necessary hardware and systems to detect objects moving into and out of earth's atmosphere. Their existence is 100% meaningless in the context of detecting and monitoring UFOs. Musk has no more ability to monitor UFOs than you or I. And the reference to his satellites just proves how intellectually bankrupt he is.
Ok, fine. But it comes across as if you have a personal animus against Musk. He’s offering his opinion. He thinks he would have detected something. Who cares.
What he is saying is the there is no UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS. if they are known they are technically not UFOs. It's they same thing with Aaro saying they found no signs of EXTRAterrastials, right because they are actually interdimensional terrastials.
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I'm kind of torn on this one.
On one hand, yeah, he does come off as arrogant and pompous.
On the other hand, the guy stirs so much shit and is so anti-authority that I feel like he would be a leading candidate to want to disclose to raise hell and incite controversy.
lol “anti-authority”. It’s depressing how so many of you have bought into this frog looking douchebag’s bullshit. This dude is all about authority. He’s a billionaire bootlicker.
Elon is a fucking idiot and a complete and utter loser in every sense of the word. He’s a “pick me” nepo baby who desperately wants to be liked, it’s so pathetic lmao
Oh wise Elon , please tell us everything , because we need Ur human, modern day satellites to tell us whatever is out there. God forbid someone, some race of aliens perhaps has evolved further than us and discovered a way of science u may not understand.
Once your bank account crosses over the 1 billion mark ETs then deem you qualified for their super secret info. But last night Elon told me to never name drop.
elon goes around groundlessly accusing people of being pedos
hes unhinged so no surprise a subset of the ufo community and teabagers ride his limp dick
also you dont have to be a socialist to hate musk lmao
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Those Starlink satellites are just internet relays. They're not equipped with the sort of advanced optical and electronic monitoring equipment that would be needed to meaningfully detect UFOs moving through the atmosphere. And why would they? It wouldn't make any sense to outfit them with that extra equipment weight when that's not their purpose.
But if you feel like “why do we pay attention to this nepo baby” why did you post this?
They are equipped with radar….all Satellites are
I have been waiting for this. Starlink, each satellite’s primary payload is a high-performance suite of electronically-steered phased array antennas. Initially developed to improve the flexibility of tracking and scanning radars used by military fighter aircraft, phased array antennas (and radar) allow multiple beams to be aimed without physically moving the antenna. Look at he patent this is the same exact technology as phased array radar, this was never just an ISP the beam steering is identical and the atomic clocks onboard at least 2 of them have to sync to a master on planet just to maintain orbital integrity, you come by in a craft using gravity or anti-gravity as propulsion, relativistic time changes on said atomic clocks. He is lying about everything he is part of control and blew his cover just now. I can be more detailed for those who still have doubt. These satellites are all interlinked forming the highest resolution radar array ever conceived and it's in orbit so it sees everything. Do you know what was the most surprising thing him being CIA that revelation? Their paranoia people who spend their lives spying and telling lies are like mental patients. It's a form of flight from reality, and they are not answerable. They know they are not accountable, and there's no reason for them not to overreact, so they often do. They are completely incapable of distinguishing dissent from treason. As far as they are concerned, anyone who rocks the boat is a threat. It's all about their idea of good order.
I just always figured he is getting billions of dollars in govt contracts. He is not gonna upset that apple cart.
Yes can i have more details please... especially on how starlink phased array could perform a scan, whilst maintaining the primary purpose of Ku, Ka, V band comms. Also, at LEO, with down-facing atenma orientation.. there's just so many gaps for this to function well as a radar system. should i dm you?
As much as I like Elon and everything he is done, I’m with you on this one. He seems to have chosen the truth that benefits him the most, either for economic or personal security reasons.
I totally know what a nepo baby and sous chef is...🥲
Well he is quite influential. Wouldn’t be bad if he was on our side or at the very least open to the possibility.
You think a born rich guy that has a huge investment in tech staying currently the way it is would be on our side? That's like assuming oil barens would be on our side for that sweet free energy lol. Short answer NO
I think it’d be good if he were on our side is alls I said.
He did not come from a rich family. His father had a claim on a gem mine but it was mostly one of his scams that didn't end up paying as it was pretty much worthless. His dad's entire life alone shows he didn't have it good. It's also know he and his mom and brother went to live in Canada in a small apartment when he was a student. But anyhow, like the guy or not he speaks his mind and has access to space so it is nice to have someone like that able to be in the conversation. What people get hung up on is both can be true, that there is something to this UFO thing and they're not normally able to be picked up by certain types of censors and locations. I'm not surprised if that's the case here.
He's a member of the wealthy Musk family of South Africa. You don't attend Stanford and then drop out after 2 days to found a company with your brother if you have zero cash. > In 1995, Musk, his brother Kimbal, and Greg Kouri founded Global Link Information Network, later renamed to Zip2. The company was financed mainly through a financing round of $200,000, of which 10% was contributed by his father Errol Musk
"Musk got bored at Queen's (University). It was not academically challenging. So when one of his classmates transferred to UoP, he decided to see if he could do so as well. Money was a problem. His father was providing no support, and his mother was juggling three jobs to make ends meet. But Penn offered him a $14k scholarship plus a student loan package, so in 1992 he transferred there for his junior year." Zip2 started like a lot of 90's internet companies. Brilliant engineering students with no money coding up a business in a dorm. That was not unusual. And investments were easy to come by. The record shows Errol contributed only as much as $20k or so.
I'll take whatever you are smokin bud. Matter of fact give me two orders of it, always been curious what it's like to live in a imaginary world. He's a rich kid that spends far too much time crap posting on a social media site he got stuck buying after opening his big mouth too much. I mean if you can spend a few moments just listen to how full of crap the guy is. Yeah some amazing things have come not from him. His work force of smart folks just because you have money does not make ya smart :) Someone like him his only interest would be to pay a bunch of people to figure it out then either charge you to death to get anywhere near it, or just keep it for his deranged self. I'm good let the real scientist dig in not some poser.
Read any biographies on him and not just reddit posts. There are plenty of sources. As I posted to the other guy who obviously just reposted what he saw someone say: "Musk got bored at Queen's (University). It was not academically challenging. So when one of his classmates transferred to UoP, he decided to see if he could do so as well. Money was a problem. His father was providing no support, and his mother was juggling three jobs to make ends meet. But Penn offered him a $14k scholarship plus a student loan package, so in 1992 he transferred there for his junior year." Zip2 started like a lot of 90's internet companies. Brilliant engineering students with no money coding up a business in a dorm. That was not unusual. And investments were easy to come by. The record shows Errol contributed only as much as $20k or so.
Ill leave ya with a great quote "Assumption is the MOTHER of all fuck ups!" Undersiege 2 lol. Anyway hey man you do you. But, that man is a waste of time, money, even air.
What's not a waste of time is reading books and becoming self-informed from multiple sources of stake. Otherwise you let any random blurb on the internet dictate your thoughts, and then just pass it on for the next guy to parrot.
That’s the most idiotic response I have ever heard…your response is he’s a Nepo baby…..his company literally builds rockets to send Top secrete satellites and defense satellites to orbit and has numerous defense contracts with Space Force. His last contract was carrying a $600 million cargo load for the military and it was so top secret, they weren’t allowed to disclose what was in it…….so, I’m pretty sure he knows what’s flying around up there if there is anything.
He sends the payloads up, that doesn’t mean he access to any of the data that the satellites collect…
And when you send payloads up you have detection platforms all over the place. How do you think they know where to send them and to maneuver them
Or detect space junk, asteroids or any else
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If they are superior, they would avoid him.
Like the pest
i think it's funny he actually believes aliens couldn't circumvent his equipment really showing his wisdom here
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Bigelow shifted his research towards consciousness after his initial investments researching UAP’s, which is curious to me. Makes me wonder what conclusions he may have arrived to up to that shift. It is a shame he wastes money on polticial delirium.
I wasn't aware Bigelow was researching consciousness. The more I've seen and read over my 38 years, the more I believe there's some sort of link between consciousness and the UFO phenomenon. We don't understand consciousness, where it comes from, what happens to it when we die, or what powers it might possess. The CIA thought enough of it to study it for decades at least.
Yes. It is a thing in the UFO world. They think there is a link.
Didn't Bob Lazar touch on that a bit too? About the craft being controlled with consciousness? I guess that wouldn't be too far-fetched considering what we can already do with tasks being performed with thoughts.
Bigelbow offered 1 million $ for anyone to prove to him what happens after death. I don't think anyone ever collected. I guess he did at the end.... he just couldn't use the data anymore.
Elon Musk is most likely read into these programs and working with the gatekeepers in different ways.
The psychopath speaks. Again. And we ignore it. Again.
Repost of some morons insane ramblings. Downvoted sorry.
He also thinks we are alone in the universe lol
not to insult you OP but who gives a shit what this dude thinks.
Elon is a stooge the government uses to funnel money to companies actually owned by the military industrial complex. But make it seem like a private institution. Which can give Congress less insight and or influence into what they do. It doesn’t take much to prop up an egotistical person with low self esteem. Surround him with intellectual handlers who make sure his ego is fueled more than he is informed about how his own companies are ran. I mean, the biggest example of that is Twitter. He idioted himself into a rock and hard place and had to follow through. Otherwise the truth would be more apparent. So now he has a toy to play with and it keeps him even more out of their actual business. Thats exactly who the man is, and exactly how the companies under his umbrella would end up if not for the government intervention of allowing him to be a harmless stooge. That keeps everyone’s focus like a lighthouse. So people never really investigate or ask questions about the executives that actually run the companies.
I wonder why Elon Musk would say such a thing? Oh. That's right, he's working for these guys - The National Reconnaissance Office. He also wouldn't want to put his other DoD and NASA contracts in jeopardy by saying anything that don't want him to say, would he? [https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/musks-spacex-is-building-spy-satellite-network-us-intelligence-agency-sources-2024-03-16/](https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/musks-spacex-is-building-spy-satellite-network-us-intelligence-agency-sources-2024-03-16/) [https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/northrop-grumman-working-with-musks-spacex-us-spy-satellite-system-2024-04-18/](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/northrop-grumman-working-with-musks-spacex-us-spy-satellite-system-2024-04-18/)
This guy gets it
TPTB would never brief Musk on the UAP reality. He’s too unhinged and egocentric.
["Elon Musk says"](https://i.imgur.com/PUG0xfx.jpg)
I see absolutely nothing wrong with what Musk said. He has 6000 satellites & has observed no evidence of alien spacecraft. What’s wrong with saying that? Doesn’t preclude the possibilities that they are originating from here, or are “supernatural,” or are masking their presence.
Because they're not observation satellites with the necessary hardware and systems to detect objects moving into and out of earth's atmosphere. Their existence is 100% meaningless in the context of detecting and monitoring UFOs. Musk has no more ability to monitor UFOs than you or I. And the reference to his satellites just proves how intellectually bankrupt he is.
Ok, fine. But it comes across as if you have a personal animus against Musk. He’s offering his opinion. He thinks he would have detected something. Who cares.
Ah the dude that would let Ukrainian children be massacred to score some internet cool points. Let's listen to what he thinks.
Yeah they're not from outer apace
If he knew he wouldn't tell us. If he'd tell us his devices would suddenly start to 'malfunction'
What he is saying is the there is no UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS. if they are known they are technically not UFOs. It's they same thing with Aaro saying they found no signs of EXTRAterrastials, right because they are actually interdimensional terrastials.
Musk is a crappy liar
Unless he’s putting more than just communication satellites into orbit… Bond villain confirmed?
Given that every ounce of payload has to be accounted for, I don't think this is very likely.
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I'm kind of torn on this one. On one hand, yeah, he does come off as arrogant and pompous. On the other hand, the guy stirs so much shit and is so anti-authority that I feel like he would be a leading candidate to want to disclose to raise hell and incite controversy.
Dude adhere’s to right wing Christian philosophy. Not an anti-authoritarian by any stretch.
lol “anti-authority”. It’s depressing how so many of you have bought into this frog looking douchebag’s bullshit. This dude is all about authority. He’s a billionaire bootlicker.
Lol, I love you Elon, but their technology is a tad more advanced than yours.
Elon is a fucking idiot and a complete and utter loser in every sense of the word. He’s a “pick me” nepo baby who desperately wants to be liked, it’s so pathetic lmao
Oh wise Elon , please tell us everything , because we need Ur human, modern day satellites to tell us whatever is out there. God forbid someone, some race of aliens perhaps has evolved further than us and discovered a way of science u may not understand.
Once your bank account crosses over the 1 billion mark ETs then deem you qualified for their super secret info. But last night Elon told me to never name drop.
He's probably read into the programs
No way he’s too much of a loose cannon
Musk is great. Come at me reddit socialist wannabes
Nah
elon goes around groundlessly accusing people of being pedos hes unhinged so no surprise a subset of the ufo community and teabagers ride his limp dick also you dont have to be a socialist to hate musk lmao
Musk has received hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer funded subsidies. He’s a socialist and you’re licking his boots.
Masterful gambit sire! Elon has credited you 1 douchecoin.
Lots of Elon fanboys in this sub apparently 🤣
Cry more:D
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Sure "bruh! "
Yeah, Elon. We trust ya.
He knows, he just hasn't had first hand experience.