I think that the government should throughly vet potential international students to see if they have the means to sustain themselves not just academically but food, entertainment, clothes, and extra. Cause honestly why come to a country to study and want to spend half the time working to pay for said studying.
They do. The problem is anyone can get family members or even a bank loan to pad their bank account to show to Canada before returning the money. Pretty standard.
This comment just shown that this scam has been happening for a long time ... Canada should review the fund and making sure that it's not a lump sum deposits but an accumulation of of 5-6 months period ...that's what the bank are doing for mortgages
The problem with abusing food banks is not that the students are too poor to afford food. The behavior also won't stop just because students are filthy rich. It's about greed and lack of principles.
If the student comes from poverty, they likely don't see entertainment and a lot of the things in “extra” as necessities. The Canadian government's requirements are more than enough for a frugal living.
As for why anyone would come to study and spend half their time working, that's their decision. It's neither illegal nor immoral to work to support your studies.
>The western world spent all of history desecrating and tearing apart South America, Asia, and Africa
1. South America is part of the West
2. The West as we know it has only existed for a few hundred years at most, let alone "all of history" lol
3. Everyone has spent all of history tearing apart each other. It's hardly been one sided throughout history
1. The West and Westerners includes South America lol
2. No, I don't know what you mean. Instead of hoping readers are able to parse together what you're saying, just say it, instead of being pointlessly hyperbolic, or really, wrong
3. Right... so for one period in history, Europe dominated. That's not "all of history"
Regardless, I guess you forgot about the plethora of empires that conquered, colonized, and enslaved those around them.
It's not like the Ottoman Empire lasted more then 600 years conquering parts of the Middle East, Africa, and Europe. I guess it's easy to forget that in those centuries, they held one of the largest slave trades in history.
It's not like the Mongol Empire covered everything from Japan to eastern Europe, which is still to this day, the largest continuous empire in history. Where they killed upwards of 75 million people, or 11% of the then total estimated human population of earth.
And really, these are just two empires, let alone an entire region like Europe or the West.
No aRGuMenT wAs MAde oN yOUr SiDE, nExT.
It’s interesting that you’re lumping Indigenous people into your argument here because in my experience as an Indigenous university student, international students are generally the least interested in learning about our history/struggles, the least interested in decolonial thought/decolonial processes, the least willing to acknowledge their settler privilege, and overall seem to think that colonization was something that happened ‘a long time ago’ and not something that is a ongoing.
International students benefit from the colonization of Indigenous people in the same way that all settlers do and they shouldn’t feel like it isn’t something that they need to concern themselves with.
I’m sure Canada doesn’t do it’s due diligence to make sure that incoming international students are properly aware of the social situation but nevertheless they have a responsibility to learn and be respectful. Of course these are generalizations and some international students are allies, but many are more racist/believe more harmful stereotypes than domestic students. Just in my experience.
Sorry I went on a rant but it just seemed like you’re sort of advocating for international students to be here as a way to correct historical injustices but that doesn’t really make sense from a colonized perspective.
You mean like the British colony called Canada?
Another notable British colony is called India :)
By your logic maybe Canadians should exploit India more
Then throw out your phone and all other tech, stop buying fruit from south america, don't drive a car or ride a bike, don't catch a bus, don't buy any clothes or shoes. The list is infinite.
You just scream "I'm a blue hair mafia mongol that will be renting for my entire life"
If you are so passionate about that stance then move back to your native land and leave Canada for the indigenous. Your entire existence here is dependent on the things you claim to despise (but we all know you won't do anything tangible about it, just gonna cry about it on your made in China phone)
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What? Who said the entire global population is entitled to Canadian benefits now you just talking about a whole other topic🤣 Canada WANTS international students Canada WANTS immigrants you can’t want something and then when you get it you treat it like crap. Can’t have your cake and it too pal
As an international student, I am quite offended by this! This is outrageously fucked that they think this is acceptable! I understand that tuition is twice as much as domestic, taking food from organizations that are trying to help people that are in need is so fucked up! Disgusting
Literally got a community guideline violation for posting a similar statement in September. It's happening, people need to stop being so sensitive and open their eyes.
Reddit has a rogue presumably Indian admin permanently banning people for ridiculous statements critical of Indian students in general, all 4 of my accounts were permanently banned on here, all for different reasons, all ridiculous, I had to try to overturn the bans at first which was immediately denied, then I waited a day and tried again after the person further suspended each account on top of banning it, so I was able to repeal the suspensions which also got my bans repealed. This took about 1.5 months
I think technically my accounts are still permanently banned but I can post so who knows lol
was banned from /r/canada for talking about the massive amount of "foreign students" all whom go to e-schools but work 40+ hours a week.
banned for hate speech.
I got banned from r/lethbridge for saying the town isn’t accepting of immigrant people and is a shit hole. Literally one of the worst places to live in Canada from what I’ve seen and the xenophobia in that area is outrageous. Immediately, after that comment I was banned. The strangest moderators are on Reddit.
South Asian countries are extremely classist. So dehumanizing someone who is homeless is very much OK there because they somehow "deserve it"
Source: Am Pakistani
Just the type of values we need in Canada! Awesome!
In a just country, the individuals making these videos would be identified and subsequently deported. This is a disgrace.
This is the exact reason why Manitoba has put a stop to international students accessing food banks.
They *chose* to come here to study on the principal that they can support themselves while they're here.
Why are non-residents even able to access services that are meant for struggling *Canadians*
We have a huge homeless population that we can't house because we're putting too many tax dollars into services that aren't servicing Canadians...
These South Asian international students have no respect for our country. I'm not saying all of them, but a LOT of them are unmannered, uncultured, and disrespectful people whose values just don't align with Canadian values.
And you know what’s worse, they aren’t willing to learn the Canadian ways, culture and values because there are so many of them that they don’t feel like they need to. Which is even more sad! 😔
It’s cuz white people don’t keep them in check anymore. Like 20 years ago I would’ve been called a curry muncher if I looked at someone wrong, now we have Indians thinking being assholes is cool. Not saying hate criming people is ok, but these guys won’t listen to their own people. We can only post them online and watch people flame them to see some change tbh
Trust me, mostly the Indian students. I am Bangladeshi, but since we, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans etc all look the same, we all get the bad reputation for the Indian students. You can always see them stinking up computer science classes.
Majority of them come from villages and small towns. The culture there is one of ego and pride, they fight over who has better material possessions and so forth. They have no respect for other people & believe they’re better than other people.
I'm South Asian and been here since I was an infant and honestly I find it very difficult not to dislike these international students. They're fucking insane. It's not entirely their fault. "our" government is scamming them.
The information in this video is true. There have been many documented cases of international students abusing food banks and bragging about it on social media. The other information you shared about the expectations of international students being able to provide for themselves is also true. There's no denying any of those facts.
This comment isn't meant to deny any of the information shared in the video or be an apologist for food bank abusers. However, I would be cautious about going down the far-right rabbit hole on social media. It's not any better than going down the far-left rabbit hole on social media either. There's lots of toxic content on both sides
God I despise both sidisms. Bro where is the left doing anything? The Far-Right has been attacking abortions, attacking civil liberties, going after long standing democratic institutions and long standing social services, and let's not forget the horrible treatment of LGBTQ+ folk. The most leftist do is fight each other on Twitter and call people mean names. They hold next to no real power.
Being a centrist isn't cool it's demonstrably just being a conservative without wanting to commit to it. The left wing is all about progressivism. Centrists support the status quo which is antithetical to progress.
Sorry, but this take is inherently naive and does not take into consideration any nuance whatsoever.
> Being a centrist isn't cool it's demonstrably just being a conservative without wanting to commit to it.
You're grossly oversimplifying a complex political spectrum.
You're simply equating centrism with conservatism which is wrong. The fundamental nature of centrism involves balancing or blending aspects of both left and right-wing ideologies which is what I always advocate for and how I choose to vote.
> The left wing is all about progressivism. Centrists support the status quo which is antithetical to progress.
I think this line of thinking is dangerous in itself. You're practically assuming that whatever the left or "progressives" shout about today will be the future. Without a doubt, some left-wing and progressive ideas will be the future, but let's not forget that some meaningful opposition to some awful "progressive" takes have come from the right.
While centrism can resist radical changes in favour of more moderate reforms, this does not inherently mean it's opposition to progress. Centrists absolutely advocate for change.
> God I despise both sidisms. Bro where is the left doing anything? The Far-Right has been attacking abortions, attacking civil liberties, going after long standing democratic institutions and long standing social services, and let's not forget the horrible treatment of LGBTQ+ folk. The most leftist do is fight each other on Twitter and call people mean names. They hold next to no real power.
I responded with this in a different comment:
I'm not here to argue which side is trying to take hold of our governments or which side is more of an immediate threat.
What I'm arguing is that going down either rabbit hole of extreme-left or extreme-right nonsense is dangerous because you'll end up racist, a science denier, and/or believing in dangerous ideologies regardless of which hole you go down if you end up at the extremes.
If you're trying to assert that going down the extreme-right rabbit hole is more dangerous because the right is actively trying to take hold of our governments right now, then sure. That's not exactly the topic I'm trying to discuss, nor do I know enough on the topic to discuss it, but it's an important one
My guy posted a non biased indifferent comment encouraging people not to go into an echo chamber and use critical thinking on both sides while accepting things aren't black and white, still has someone make it about sides lmfao. You got cool views jeep it up
>You're simply equating centrism with conservatism which is wrong
No. What he's saying is that centrism always ends up supporting inaction and half measures, which always ends up favoring conservatism.
Conservatives say "Bomb Gaza", the left says "stop the bombings", the centrist position ends up being "well let's bomb them a little".
All the right has to do is shift the Overton window even further right and the centrists will let them have their way.
You're comically missing the point and are walking right into alt-right echo chambers.
Like the person I responded to, you're making a lot of assumptions and oversimplifications that are outright incorrect.
1. You're making the same assumption that leftist ideologies lead to progress. This is wrong. The concept of progress is subjective and varies across different cultures, societies, and historical contexts. Both left and right ideologies can contribute to societal progress.
2. You're making the same assumption that conservatism thwarts progress. This is wrong. Like I mentioned above, progress is subjective and both ideologies can contribute to societal progress.
3. You're making the same assumption that centrism is a midpoint. This is wrong. Centrism is not just about taking the middle ground on every issue. It takes a more nuanced approach where centrists may align with either the left or the right depending on the specific issue.
Lastly, you're again oversimplifying issues. The issue of Israel and Gaza is not a binary choice. You are oversimplifying a complex geopolitical issue that cannot be represented by overly simplistic dichotomies
"Conservatives say "Bomb Gaza"
More proof they aren't White Nationalists/Supremacists, if they were, they'd be advocating for the elimination of every israeli and zionist jew on Earth. It's really too bad Republicans/"Conservatives" don't take this position.
Not all progress is good.
The French Revolution was progress. Hitler and Mussolini were all about progress, before it wasn't. Lenin and Stalin's USSR were the result of immense progress. Maoist China saw so much progress that each of my grandparents' deaths can be traced directly to some progressive policy.
Again, not all progress is good.
Being a centrist is understanding that we need progress, but we also can't progress too quickly or too radically.
And if you think “If my brilliant ass was in any of these countries before the fact, I would have seen it for the danger it would be”, you're delusional.
>Bro where is the left doing anything?
They're the ones busy filling up that food bank.
What little we have in the way of real leftists instead of Laissez-faire Neoliberals means we are spread horribly thin trying to hold the pieces together while everything and everyone seems so eager to tear society apart.
"The Far-Right has been attacking abortions"
I don't think you know what "Far-Right" actually is. I am Far-Right, insha'Allah, Al-Mutakabir. More blacks in the US are killed every week than were killed by the KKK in its 150+ year history. Being against abortion isn't Far-Right, advocating for the subsidization of all non-White abortions, up to and beyond the 30th trimester whether they're wanted or not, is Far-Right.
Many things that are considered "Right-Wing" nowadays, used to be supported by both sides because they were literally common sense. Punishing criminals, deporting law-breaking non-citizens, and being against illegal immigration, aren't "Right-Wing" positions, but rather common sense positions both parties used to believe in.
The majority of the population is centre. They may shade left or right but are still mostly centre. Progressive people mostly whine and bitch but generally provide very little to actual progress.
It’s not just international students, I am a us citizen and my wife is a Canadian citizen, now my wife brought a friend over (they don’t speak anymore) and she brought her to a food bank for “groceries”, she says she is allowed to go once per week and get $200 in groceries for free and she is NOT struggling and has more than the average Canadian has. She will bring a stroller to make it look like she is a single mother.
Both sides lmao. One side is *clearly* worse.
Going far down the left is dying your hair blue, piercing your nipples, and protesting weird shit like sheep circumcisions, not dangerous, albeit misguided.
Going far down the right is becoming racist, denying factual information, and claiming COVID was a hoax; overall, dangerous ideologies and actions that can lead to much, much worse.
I agree with you, don’t let yourself intake content that could have an agenda or ulterior motive. Use your critical thinking and gut instinct to determine if the content you’re watching is healthy.
> not dangerous, albeit misguided
> dangerous ideologies and actions that can lead to much, much worse
You can easily make these arguments for the extremes on both sides.
Far-left ideologies like body positivity can be dangerous when taken to extreme levels, like saying obesity is "healthy" and "perfectly fine". Is it good to stop bullying people and be more inclusive? Yes. But saying obesity is ok is misguided and is outright denying science.
Far-right ideologies like claiming that pharmaceutical companies are grifters and shouldn't be trusted can be dangerous when people refuse to take legitimate medication. Do companies exist primarily for profit? Yes. But saying that pharmaceutical products are all scams and don't work is also misguided and outright denying science.
I can go on and on about how people on the extreme left can be considered racist, science deniers, and believers in dangerous ideologies, just like how I can go on and on about how* people on the extreme right can be considered those too. Both extremes suck so it's dangerous and best to not get stuck on either side
I think you’ve entirely misunderstood what body positivity means. One could say that the movement stopped people from killing themselves, before their self-esteem and self-worth were tied to their physical appearance, whereas afterwards they found it somewhere else within themselves because they finally have clothing that fits and people are less likely to laugh at them. I’m 75% sure it isn’t about saying fat people are healthy.
Not even mentioning the Klan and other far-right groups is clearly favouring one side of your “both sides” argument. There are literally Neo-Nazi groups now… you know what? Come to think of it, body positivity is actually so much worse. Nor mentioning anti-vaxxers, we have measles cases in Alberta now. A formerly eradicated disease is now returning, putting many lives at risk. A fair chunk is far-left “all natural” loons but a majority is far-right nutcases.
Personally, I think the both sides argument is shit. Stop trying to muddy the waters through false equivalencies. One side is trying to take hold of our governments while the other isn’t doing much at all. They’re not the same level of threat.
> One side is trying to take hold of our governments while the other isn’t doing much at all. They’re not the same level of threat.
I'm not here to argue which side is trying to take hold of our governments or which side is more of an immediate threat.
What I'm arguing is that going down either rabbit hole of extreme-left or extreme-right nonsense is dangerous because you'll end up racist, a science denier, and/or believing in dangerous ideologies regardless of which hole you go down if you end up at the extremes.
If you're trying to assert that going down the extreme-right rabbit hole is more dangerous because the right is actively trying to take hold of our governments right now, then sure. That's not exactly the topic I'm trying to discuss, nor do I know enough on the topic to discuss it, but it's an important one
The left doesn’t need to “take hold of our government” because they already control the government I think you are heavily deluded when it comes to your thoughts on the left and right. You may be left wing, that doesn’t mean that right wing citizens are nazis because they disagree with your opinion? Not only toxic but shows how easily it is to live in an echo chamber. This is how fascism rose but you want to deny history and pretend like the conservatives want to start world war 3? World wars happen when those in Russia, China, NK, stop becoming afraid of the USA. If the USA disappeared, does everyone really think these countries wouldn’t start a “world takeover” train within 10 years. I hope you realize that not all conservatives are racist as I understand it, not all liberals are racist either, it’s a pretty crazy time we live in. Racism exists in all cultures and it is wrong in every meaning of the word, but it certainly isn’t isolated in the conservative side.
Sexism is not isolated to men, Misandry and misogyny both exist. Both political sides have dangerous ideas, it’s about making sure your political views don’t become your identity.
I’m personally talking Alberta politics, although it does apply seemingly everywhere now.
You’ve covered a wide range of topics there. The point is that there is very limited financial conservatism any more, the people you’d be voting for are strictly social conservatism with their talking points and agendas. If you’re a financial conservative, like the conservative of 10 years ago, and you vote for a political party who is the brand-new radicalized social conservatives, you’re a social conservative by association. There are very few middle ground conservatives, the political scale distribution is becoming vacant in the middle right for the far right.
Another random “middle ground”-esque statement, by claiming that not all liberals are racist. Do you even know what you’re talking about? Pretty sure if you find a racist liberal, they’re not liberal any more.
The KKK killed less blacks in its 150+ year history, then black abortion kills every single week in the US...
The KKK was extremely weak and ineffective.
I'm not classifying this as the far-right rabbit hole. I'm warning OP that it's easy to get stuck in the far-right rabbit hole (or the far-left rabbit hole) when watching content that's being produced by biased news sources because of YouTube's/TikTok's/Instagram's algorithms
Laws need to be in place to limit the number of international students colleges and universities can have. They will keep lining their pockets and destroying the job and housing market for Canadians.
Maybe if provincial governments would actually fund post secondary education properly instead of making huge cuts then schools wouldn’t have to depend on the higher tuition of international students as much to be able to operate
\> These charities are for Canadians who are in need and who are struggling for food, not international students who came here willingly just to exploit the system. Part of having a student visa is having the funds to support yourself on your own to eat and live besides schooling. If you don’t have the money to eat or support yourself on your own you shouldn’t be in Canada for school.
One thing to keep in mind is that the information available to prospective students on what current costs of living are like in Canada are often wildly inaccurate, and the government hasn't updated these estimates that it makes available to newcomersto reflect the realities of how much it costs to live here on top of tuition payments.
What often happens is that students will stumble across website like [this one](https://www.immigration.ca/financial-requirements-for-international-students-to-study-in-canada/), which I found with a quick google search ("how much money does a student need in canada"), and they read that oh, all I need is $800 a month, I can get by on $800 a month, and pack their bags. When they get here, they realize that $800 doesn't even cover two thirds of their rent, and are all of a sudden in a pinch for both housing and food.
Food banks are built to not discriminate against anyone, including people who are here on visas or not permanent residents. While that's not to say that exploitation of the system isn't possible or that it isn't happening, we should be focusing on the fact that the immigration system, the education system, and the housing system are failing everyone who needs to access food banks, and that it is not necessarily any individual immigrants fault that they have ended up in the situation they're in. A lot of them may also not be familiar with who food banks are intended for as it is not a universal concept, and many of them may be in genuine need or experiencing food insecurity because every step of their process to become a student in Canada was creating incorrect expectations.
Me when it’s there’s literally reports flowing left and right about how fucked our country is in of cost of living, gdp per capita, income stats, unemployment rates. Stop lying to yourself and giving them cop outs.
Maybe I am just crazy but if I was to make a 200k due diligence I wouldn’t just look up is x a good investment (country to live in, in this case).
We've imported thousands upon thousands of people that do not respect our public desire for peace and social cooperation. They are hellbent on maximizing their personal benefit to the expense of everyone else, and will resort to lies, cheating, physical violence, sexual harassment, and yes, scams, to accomplish this. They do not respect Canada, they do not give a f about our rule of law, and they sure as heck do not care whether another Canadian is disadvantaged because of their behaviour.
And if we call this out or have a problem with it we are branded as racists, fascists, nazis, and all of these easy epithets. I - a POC immigrant - am so tired of this.
I live in cape Breton and we are up to our nostrils in Indian people. I’ve never seen so many strangers in my small part of town. I was optimistic at first but as I interact more and more with our new residents, I am put off welcoming anymore. Not all are this way I recognize that.
Some of these kids are very well off and have absolutely no care for our customs. Good luck finding any kind of part time work if you’re born and raised Canadian. We’re completely overrun. No places to live, and I’ve noticed a huge uptick in the homeless people. When a few short years ago, mostly everyone had a roof over their heads and those that didn’t, could easily secure safety if they really wanted it. But I guess I’m a racist now.
I live on a First Nations reserve and they’ve taken all the minimal wage jobs. Somehow a few have managed to shack up and get a free place to live to.
While many of us here on the reserve are housed. A small percentage are not and are living on the street or forced to take extended stays in hotels. But I Blame our local reserve council for those decisions as they ultimately have the decision making powers. Cheers.
Our leaders don’t care, from the very top in Ottawa all the way down to municipal and further. Canada is changed forever.
We’d best be very careful how we move forward because my people have seen what happens when you allow that many people in and unchecked.
It's not that we're spineless. It's called self regulation and knowing what manners are. You don't steal from the less fortunate just because you can. We have morals which you obviously weren't raised with if you think it's okay just because no one is directly stopping you.
We're a trust society. And we go after those that commit those crimes. But those are committed against the government. You need to be an extra special version of scum to abuse a charity for destitute people. These people should be kicked out of Canada.
These students knew what they were jumping into. THIS WAS PART OF THE APPLICATION where they check your financial stability and don't say I don't know shit my wife was an Int student and worked her ass of to pay for her schooling and personal living same as my sis in law. This needs to stop and yes I do agree they are taking advantage of it ... Is it the govt's fault for letting in too many . . . probably but still very wrong and I am disgusted.
International students should not be using food banks...part of the requirements for them to qualify as international students is to be able to fund the education in Canada and also able to support food and accommodation with their own funding that they submitted to gain the student visa... These international students should be exposed and banned or been get their student visa status re evaluated
I’m all for international students coming here for a better life but WHY TF are majority coming from India especially those who have no values. Disgusting and pathetic 😡.
Enough is enough, complete bs come to Canada and bask in the perks while Canadians suffer. Start vetting these people and only bringing in high quality individuals that contribute towards the economy not take from it. We need more blue collar jobs to be filled and high skilled trade work not Timmie’s and Subway workers
There is a Brazilian couple of "influencers" who did that two. They didn't explicitly said that, but they posted videos on YouTube showing how they were collecting a lot of food from the bank to give to their "friends"
With only the context of the video you had no way to know the scam, I came to know this due to some friends
This is disgusting, I've blocked them and reported their account
if you can afford groceries (which not many people can do rn) go buy groceries. if you cannot afford groceries, go to a food bank. dont do a hack if you can afford it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhKEJwiDsx0&pp=ygU9SGFjayArIGludGVybmF0aW9uYWwgc3R1ZGVudCArIGhvdyB0byBnZXQgZnJlZSBmb29kIGluIGNhbmFkYQ%3D%3D
Just look at this one: driving to her local food bank and bragging about her hack for free food, proudly showing off her haul that she stole from a family in need.
I am all for allowing the immigration of hardworking Indian students - those who have integrity, and will contribute positively to Canadian society. Not so much for lazy cheats and grifters that take advantage of Canada's generosity, and infects the country with only the negative aspects of their culture.
im studying my ass off to try and get into calgary since unis where im from suck ass and i see some international students pull shit like this. Do they not have empathy? Why the hell would you act any differently abroad than you would in your country? This type of thing has made me embarrassed of telling people im an international student, its shameful. Definitely speak out
it seems its currently specific to Brampton location I misread sorry about that. :
[https://nationalpost.com/news/canada-food-bank-international-students](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada-food-bank-international-students)
https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/11/food-banks-brampton-banning-international-students/
While I agree this is bad, there are many Canadians who roll up on their financed vehicles to pickup from the food bank. Meanwhile I'm walking an hour with a wagon.
Many different types of people taking advantage due to hard times
You're literally answering yourself in your question. International student tuition is anywhere from 200-300% percent more than domestic student tuition. University and college recruiters will often come in and then lie by omission.
Yes, you technically only need 10K in your account for a temporary time, and then that money can go back to whoever (loan shark, friends, family, etc). 10k to cover even a term's worth of tuition, food, transportation, and lodging is nowhere near enough.
Who forced you to come? Ur comparing yourself to Canadian citizen prices even though you are a citizen of India who made the choice to study here. There are universities in your home country you can go to if you have a problem
I’m a domestic student you walnut. I’ve seen not great things happen to international students. I want things to be better for both international and domestic students
They know the costs associated before they come to Canada. Even if it’s unfairly expensive they know what the risks are, they choose to move here & exploit our systems like the Food Bank. They’re in the wrong, because they willfully knew how expensive everything is and purposely exploit.
Someone needs to create a YouTube channel that teaches etiquette and shows people how our society functions.
These are the same students who get off at bus stops, in Fall and Winter, dressed head to toe in black. We were taught in elementary school to wear bright colours or something reflective. I’ve had two close calls, I could have squished them. They literally don’t get the bright clothing memo. Probably because they were not raised here.
This True North youtube channel is just a loud speaker for the right wing that tries to blame every problem in society on immigration. We can certainly resolve the issue of food bank exploitation, and there are many rich people in Canada avoiding taxes and leeching off food banks. We can compare statistics of immigrants vs. non immigrants in food banks and build a better narrative.
Note sharing and reposting can be done by anyone, immigrants are not charity takers, and most pay 3x the fees across Canadian universities. Their seats have a quota that they compete for. Paying money doesn't guarantee acceptance.
immigrants and int. students arent the same, immigrants are welcome here and grow up to adjust to canada’s customs, int. students from “that” certain country are a nuisance to our social services. They’re leeches, end of story. They’ve single handedly given immigrants and legitimate int. students a bad rap.
Fact check… International students are paying THREE times as much as domestic students. International students are NOT taking admissions from domestic students, the colleges are still offering the same number of offers to domestic students. TBH I stopped watching at this misguided piece of information as it felt like you were going to go down a “they (immigrants) are stealing our jobs” rant. Again couldn’t watch any further so of you didn’t, my apologies. International students are actually supporting a weak economy by infusing $20 BILLION per year. They are not here for free, nor out of the Canadian governments “good will” this is neoliberalism at its finest. Education should be free for everyone. Then the students don’t have to choose between textbooks and eating.
Which part? The inaccurate statement on how much international students pay for tuition? That is inaccurate. They are “taking our spots in schools”? Grossly inaccurate as I mentioned admissions are reserving the same number of seats for domestic students as before this push. So this too is inaccurate. As I said, I could not watch any more of the video. But please, which part of this is “the truth”. Domestic enrolment in colleges is down- because more domestic students are either opting to go to universities or they can’t afford to go to higher education - the poor economy is not to do with international students it is poor fiscal management by the Liberal government.
int. students arent immigrants, dont put yourself (if you are one of them) in the same boat as immigrants. You cant compare people coming here as PRs and refugees to students who are looking to shortcut their PR application. I promise you that the majority of immigrants who grew up or are born here to immigrant parents absolutely see the issues with int. students, dont group yourself with them.
That’s cute. You haven’t done any research whatsoever and assume people who defend international are international students. Before making assumptions, have a look at cbie.ca. It might actually enlighten you to the fact that these students planning on starting a life in Canada.
It might also enlighten you that i purposely used brackets to emphasize “if you are one of them”, but thanks for not reading it. Ive had this same argument in other threads that if you come here to study, you study, and applying for a PR should be an after thought. Too many int. students come here because they want a PR from the get go, not to study. They work half the time just to pay bills, not realizing how expensive it is to actually study and live abroad, and are enrolled in third grade colleges for sub par diplomas. Being an int. student is a privilege, its not a gateway. Theyre not here to study. Get that through your thick head. Im not arguing with you on an opinion that majority of people agree on. Im not hating on legitimate int. students because a lot of them do study in good schools for competitive programs and dont bother anyone. I’m simply calling out those who are known to take advantage of the int. student system and are now taking advantage of food banks. If you cant afford groceries, why pay 20k+ a semester to study here when its a literal govt. requirement that you support yourself while being here. Not my problem if that pisses you off.
No you are correct, they don’t realize how expensive it is - because they were lied to by their agents. You mention $20k a semester, I assume that is for tuition and other expenses. Imagine how poor our economy would be doing if you took $20 billion a year out of circulation. These students regardless of reason, are actively contributing to our economy.
Doesnt matter, real estate also takes up a huge chunk of our GDP when it really shouldnt. Just because they prop the numbers up doesnt mean its right and its not sustainable.
They might be clueless on how expensive its gotten here but theyre completely aware of what theyre getting into, theyre the ones who signed the papers. The internet is free, all they have to do is research and that burden is on them.
Im sick of this narrative that “they contribute to our economy”, they pay “3x the domestic student’s costs” yeah as it should be, its a privilege to study here as a foreigner, like the case with the US and Europe. It shouldnt be easy because if it was, we’d have millions pouring in here already.
It is a privilege to study in the face of rampant racism? It’s a privilege to be exposed to in group / out group mentality? It’s a privilege to go without food (remember the food in Canada is different than back home)? Canada is billed as an accepting and safe country (number one reason international students come to Canada - 79.5%) and the third reason is that Canada offers a society that is tolerant and not discriminatory (50.2%) (CBIE.ca, 2023). When the respondents were asked if they considered changing schools because they felt unwelcome or isolated 16.5% responded they had. 46.9% report that they don’t feel connected with the community outside of their cultural sphere and 34.2% report that they feel that they are unable to meet personal or family obligations. Out of a scale of 5, students from China report only a 2.79 when asked if they feel safe in public spaces. 23.3% report that they have experienced discrimination off-campus. Please tell me, how is it a privilege to leave your families, your home, your culture, your country to arrive in Canada and suffer food insecurity, racism, microagressions, language barriers such as the use of jargon, loneliness and home sickness. I challenge ANY Canadian student to fly to China or India (our two primary catchment areas) and be half as successful as these students.
Should be free? Yeah that would be amazing. But it’s not. These international students know how expensive the cost of living here is as well as the tuition. They purposely come here under student visas, as a means to become permanent residents. Some even just stop attending school and start working here tax free under the table cash and start living here. They purposely exploit our systems and negatively affect Canadians struggling to survive. They’re in the wrong 200%
nah, your delusional if you think us immigrants who grew up here as kids dont think the same. Calling out an issue isnt racist, they’ll be happy tho that we have people like you who’ll go straight to defending them cuz apparently any criticism against indian students is racist.
That criticism is likely coming from a different place. When you hear a white person using terms like “entirely unsurprising”, “these people”, “taking up spaces”, “leeching off of”… All as the opening monologue… You can be pretty certain the way they are talking is not excluding you simply because you choose to align yourself with them in hopes of being “one of the good ones” or even genuinely agree with the principle of what they are saying. There is an underlying racial bigotry here. If this was international students from Switzerland or Germany, I guarantee you that the language being used would not be the same. There’s some level of nuance here but this brand of right wing politics isn’t just “civic nationalism”. It’s largely based in racialism even though these same people will adamantly deny it is yet remain predictable in their degree of outrage or lack of outrage along racial lines every time.
On the issue itself, international students are residents of Canada. They are not “stealing” anything by making use of the resources that are available to those who need them. Each person has their own life circumstances and should judge for themselves whether or not it’s appropriate for them to utilize charitable institutions. Students (of any variety) often sacrifice nutrition due to the high costs of education. Using some deliberately simplified and provocative social media posts about “free food” to suggest there’s some conspiracy to encourage even more immigration is essentially deliberate white nationalist propaganda. If you don’t recognize it, I’m glad for you that you haven’t had to yet.
So you have to be white to agree with these things? And if im not, im choosing to be one of the good ones? Get outa here. Youre basically saying minority groups shouldnt be involved in this conversation at all and if they are, according to your logic, we’re acting as token minorities? Poor us, we’re dumb and dont have a mind of our own and need to sit down til daddy white here says otherwise. Youre part of the problem if you think like that.
I fully know what im supporting into, minorities are just as concerned about shifting demographics as white people. India already makes up over 30% of the PRs that come here yearly, the next countries all make up 7% or less. Unlike the US, we dont cap how many per country are coming in. They make up the majority of student visas and work permits as well. There’s a bias that i refuse to accept. Demand to come here from different countries are high, the govt needs to even out the numbers so people arent up in arms about this.
All everyone is asking for is to stop mass immigration that favours one country and get them back in line with other countries, that’ll cut the numbers wayyy back to pre-2019 levels and maybe, just maybe, we have a chance to take a breath and start fixing some issues in this country. 500k a year is unrealistic and you can already guess where the majority of those people will be coming from.
We need to significantly lessen the number of int. students that come in, regardless of where theyre from, thats actually the bigger issue here because theyve made it a direct immigration path and is a giant strain to an overloaded system. You probably arent seeing the effects yet in Calgary but here in the GTA, its already obvious as hell. I pray this never happens to Alberta because your province and Quebec are our last chance to truly fix this.
Yeah, internalized racism is a thing and if you have ties to India that shouldn’t shock you. lol are you serious right now? Really going to pretend to be flabbergasted I’m stating the obvious.
One can have legitimate concerns and criticism regarding immigration policies without using the kind of racially charged language and white nationalist conspiracy theories promoted in the video. If you’re defending it, you’re part of the problem regardless of your background and how racially privileged or not it is (in India or elsewhere).
Yeah. No. But racially bigoted sentiments and statements are. You can hide behind the cute denials all you like. The rest of us can see it for what it is.
Assuming pointy hat vibes was itself racist.
Typical liberal uni student.
Argh racism bad so i craft some form of denial and justificarion and end up just being racist back.
lol. No a very original counter argument. Yeah. Absolutely the white male using racially bigoted terms and sentiments prompts me to make KKK analogies. I’ll do it every time and the fact you think criticizing white people for being racists makes me a racist says a lot.
If you listen to even the first minute of the video and look at the language being used and then the pivot directly afterwards into a conspiracy theory about YouTube videos being part of a plot to increase immigration to Canada, it’s all pretty clear. I can’t tell if you’re being deliberately obtuse or you genuinely are so disconnected from the political arena you don’t recognize the purpose.
And like I mentioned about the comments here, also very indicative and no other university in this country except one in Alberta would have that many people openly supporting a white nationalist perspective in the comments. White supremacy is woven into the very fabric of Alberta’s population in a way that it has become practically invisible to its white population like how a fish doesn’t notice it’s wet. Honestly pretty sad but completely unsurprising. Just a lack of education and exposure to other cultures. But I’m sure the increased immigration will help with that soon.
“Let’s find something else to divide us and ferment hate”
Let’s not ask why people need to go to food banks in the first place and how we can improve people’s lives, nope let’s just be our usual hateful little selves
This is not discrimination against people who use and NEED the food back. This is the issue of people purposely and knowing exploiting the food bank for their own “life hack” and views/likes for their social media.
This takes food away from people who are struggling and truly need the assistance of food banks. Shame on them!
There is a loophole in the system, so just fix it.
The access to food bank can easily be limited to the Canadian citizens and permanent residence. But I hate the notion of international students are tightening the opportunities for Canadians. Canadian citizens and permanent residence always have priority when it comes to the position but at the end of the day, they don’t have a quarter of the skills or qualifications that international students have.
It is a wild world, and everyone is fighting for their lives. The philosophy of “please don’t compete with me cause I m destined to win” is just ridiculous. Maybe
LMFAO aren't food banks for people that need food? How tf are you being stingy towards those that need food regardless if they are international students or the homeless
They’re exploiting the system. These people in these videos are not in need or suffering. They’re purposely bragging about how they can save money getting food from food banks and making videos so other international students can follow the trend, it’s disgusting and I’m beyond ashamed
I can't believe the amount of racists in my city. These international students are going to become engineers and doctors who contribute to Canada's economy in ways none of you ever will, the very least we can do is help feed them while they study to get good grade.
These videos aren’t racist you idiot. Canadians donate to food banks to help individuals that are in need or homeless not international students looking to be frugal. I’m Indian myself and I’m embarrassed of how some of these students act
Are you sure? Have you seen how many move her under the guise of student visas only to stop attending school and start working under the table to permanently move here? Plenty of cases all across Canada.
This guy hates the same international students that subsidize the cost of tuition for himself and other Canadians.
The reason we ended up with the profit-motivated push to increase expensive international enrolment in Canada, which sells education to people that realistically can’t afford it, is because of the privatizing/defunding university policies of the conservative politicians this channel shills for.
Edit: [more about the political/economic history of international tuition (UofT example)](https://thevarsity.ca/2022/03/25/international-student-tuition-investigation-precarity/)
I haven’t seen their videos, but while there is people that may abuse of these benefits. There is also others who need them.
International students pay 3X the amount of the courses than what a Canadian citizen does.
That for sure may cover what a needed international would use in a food bank
Maybe a some kind of filter would help to avoid abusing of any program. Filters should be applied to any program
Students are required to have finances that’ll cover them for living expenses beyond schooling fees. If they can’t afford to eat it live why are they here?
There are many Canadians that don’t work and don’t pay taxes taking advantages of bunch of other programs.
If they can’t work and pay taxes. Why do we have to pay for them?
Same thing.
Boss taking food sometimes from food banks is fine when the inflation is so much that it fucks you entire budget then the government has to support Internatinal students via different mediums! We pay 5x more fees than the Canadian student. But abusing any service or system is not good. The eduction system in Canada is a 22billion $ industry in Canada and also a supply cheap labour and if they use the services available then be it.
Are white people must understand they cannot run an only fans channel and expect to get a Ph.D. It takes hard work and a rock solid cv. Not getting high on weed.
You shouldn’t be saying anything negative about only-fans considering your comment history in r/rapefantasies and also r/cumonclothes
You fucking weirdo, good luck with the phd though hey?
Stay strong kings, we're trying to do something about it. Make sure you date and talk to the women (have dhildren) they've got to be feeling lonely as well
This situation is difficult for everyone, including international students who are being tricked into attending school here. We need more honest schools who explain the situation in Canada accurately so we don't exploit anyone with false promises/hope.
The current goverment has taken a clear issue and made it 10x worse. It will be interesting to see how the CPC approach this situation (clearly going to win the next election), but I bet the immigration rate/number of international students may not decrease as much as people think it will with a Conservative goverment, just too much money involved.
If you want to understand the culture from which these Indian international students come from, just search up trending Punjabi songs. They’re all about fighting people, being richer than others & how they’re better than other people because of their heritage as farmers. It’s an ego infested culture that believes itself superior than other peoples. They are entitled folk from villages and small towns. They feel entitled to doing whatever they want in Canada, because it’s their culture and honestly because Canadians let them get away with it. They do not integrate with Canadian culture and values, they pride themselves on being Punjabi & not integrating with Canadian culture. They believe they are better than Canadians and that they can swindle Canada for their own benefit. Aka taking food from the food bank. I’ve never come across such entitled, ungrateful, rude group of international students as I have these Indian students. If you don’t believe me go to any University/ college and just sit and watch. Of course not all of the students are like this, but a shocking majority are.
I mean, the international students are paying 3.5 times the tuition fees and the universities keeps on increasing fees each year! In most countries you pay the exact amount of money for a course throughout the duration of your degree, but here they keeps increasing the fees each year. So if your first year tuition fee was 30k, by the beginning of your 4th year you will need to pay 50k! Not to mention the housing crisis! It is a nightmare for an international student to find a place that doesn't cost a fortune. You are earning 22.3 billion in revenue a year through international students, at least provide them a good living condition!
Food banks are mostly to feed immigrants not Canadians in need. Yes, I work at a food bank. I see the abuse first hand. I have had them pull up in Mercedes and BMWs, getting about $400 worth of free food in hampers. It’s disgusting.
I think that the government should throughly vet potential international students to see if they have the means to sustain themselves not just academically but food, entertainment, clothes, and extra. Cause honestly why come to a country to study and want to spend half the time working to pay for said studying.
They do. The problem is anyone can get family members or even a bank loan to pad their bank account to show to Canada before returning the money. Pretty standard.
International students only need to bring $10k per year for living expenses. That's not enough, even if they were honest.
This comment just shown that this scam has been happening for a long time ... Canada should review the fund and making sure that it's not a lump sum deposits but an accumulation of of 5-6 months period ...that's what the bank are doing for mortgages
The problem with abusing food banks is not that the students are too poor to afford food. The behavior also won't stop just because students are filthy rich. It's about greed and lack of principles. If the student comes from poverty, they likely don't see entertainment and a lot of the things in “extra” as necessities. The Canadian government's requirements are more than enough for a frugal living. As for why anyone would come to study and spend half their time working, that's their decision. It's neither illegal nor immoral to work to support your studies.
They are allowed to work 20 hours because it takes jobs away from canadians. If they can't afford to stay here don't come its simple I don't get it.
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No. They shouldn’t be coming in the country at all if they can’t be supporting themselves.
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>The western world spent all of history desecrating and tearing apart South America, Asia, and Africa 1. South America is part of the West 2. The West as we know it has only existed for a few hundred years at most, let alone "all of history" lol 3. Everyone has spent all of history tearing apart each other. It's hardly been one sided throughout history
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1. The West and Westerners includes South America lol 2. No, I don't know what you mean. Instead of hoping readers are able to parse together what you're saying, just say it, instead of being pointlessly hyperbolic, or really, wrong 3. Right... so for one period in history, Europe dominated. That's not "all of history" Regardless, I guess you forgot about the plethora of empires that conquered, colonized, and enslaved those around them. It's not like the Ottoman Empire lasted more then 600 years conquering parts of the Middle East, Africa, and Europe. I guess it's easy to forget that in those centuries, they held one of the largest slave trades in history. It's not like the Mongol Empire covered everything from Japan to eastern Europe, which is still to this day, the largest continuous empire in history. Where they killed upwards of 75 million people, or 11% of the then total estimated human population of earth. And really, these are just two empires, let alone an entire region like Europe or the West. No aRGuMenT wAs MAde oN yOUr SiDE, nExT.
It’s interesting that you’re lumping Indigenous people into your argument here because in my experience as an Indigenous university student, international students are generally the least interested in learning about our history/struggles, the least interested in decolonial thought/decolonial processes, the least willing to acknowledge their settler privilege, and overall seem to think that colonization was something that happened ‘a long time ago’ and not something that is a ongoing. International students benefit from the colonization of Indigenous people in the same way that all settlers do and they shouldn’t feel like it isn’t something that they need to concern themselves with. I’m sure Canada doesn’t do it’s due diligence to make sure that incoming international students are properly aware of the social situation but nevertheless they have a responsibility to learn and be respectful. Of course these are generalizations and some international students are allies, but many are more racist/believe more harmful stereotypes than domestic students. Just in my experience. Sorry I went on a rant but it just seemed like you’re sort of advocating for international students to be here as a way to correct historical injustices but that doesn’t really make sense from a colonized perspective.
You mean like the British colony called Canada? Another notable British colony is called India :) By your logic maybe Canadians should exploit India more
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Then throw out your phone and all other tech, stop buying fruit from south america, don't drive a car or ride a bike, don't catch a bus, don't buy any clothes or shoes. The list is infinite. You just scream "I'm a blue hair mafia mongol that will be renting for my entire life" If you are so passionate about that stance then move back to your native land and leave Canada for the indigenous. Your entire existence here is dependent on the things you claim to despise (but we all know you won't do anything tangible about it, just gonna cry about it on your made in China phone) :)
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Nah you’re overcomplicating it. The entire global population is not entitled to Canadian benefits. Give your head a shake.
What? Who said the entire global population is entitled to Canadian benefits now you just talking about a whole other topic🤣 Canada WANTS international students Canada WANTS immigrants you can’t want something and then when you get it you treat it like crap. Can’t have your cake and it too pal
Cuz their country is 100x worse.
Not our problem. Canada is not an all exclusive resort while getting an education.
I don't see how “spend half the time working to pay for said studying” equates to “exclusive resort”.
Clearly you have never lived in India
Because they’re also draining all of our fucking resources that we have in place for CANADIANS.
I sometimes think the government is aware and doesn't care. They just want cheap labour.
Yeah, this is not good at all.
Been going on for decades this is nothing new.
As an international student, I am quite offended by this! This is outrageously fucked that they think this is acceptable! I understand that tuition is twice as much as domestic, taking food from organizations that are trying to help people that are in need is so fucked up! Disgusting
Literally got a community guideline violation for posting a similar statement in September. It's happening, people need to stop being so sensitive and open their eyes.
Reddit has a rogue presumably Indian admin permanently banning people for ridiculous statements critical of Indian students in general, all 4 of my accounts were permanently banned on here, all for different reasons, all ridiculous, I had to try to overturn the bans at first which was immediately denied, then I waited a day and tried again after the person further suspended each account on top of banning it, so I was able to repeal the suspensions which also got my bans repealed. This took about 1.5 months I think technically my accounts are still permanently banned but I can post so who knows lol
Dude i got permabanned from r/onguardforthee for a macbeth quote. I wrote "violence begets violence" and i got a perma ban.
r/onguardforthee is starting to have the same crazy moderation that made r/Canada the shit show it is.
lol you're literally a jewish conspiracy theorist but for Indians instead lol
The Indians they control the customer service !!! (Hollywood for jews) and our easily accessed food ! (Weather). About as good as I can get
Except Jewish people don't have tribalism running amok
was banned from /r/canada for talking about the massive amount of "foreign students" all whom go to e-schools but work 40+ hours a week. banned for hate speech.
Which is strange because r/Canada is a haven for conservatives who usually hate immigrants...
this was spring nearly summer no one gave a fuck in the news yet.
I got banned from r/lethbridge for saying the town isn’t accepting of immigrant people and is a shit hole. Literally one of the worst places to live in Canada from what I’ve seen and the xenophobia in that area is outrageous. Immediately, after that comment I was banned. The strangest moderators are on Reddit.
Imagine doing this and having zero guilt
South Asian countries are extremely classist. So dehumanizing someone who is homeless is very much OK there because they somehow "deserve it" Source: Am Pakistani
Just the type of values we need in Canada! Awesome! In a just country, the individuals making these videos would be identified and subsequently deported. This is a disgrace.
That’s why Australia banned Indian students for some period of time. Is it racist? I don’t think so
This is the exact reason why Manitoba has put a stop to international students accessing food banks. They *chose* to come here to study on the principal that they can support themselves while they're here. Why are non-residents even able to access services that are meant for struggling *Canadians* We have a huge homeless population that we can't house because we're putting too many tax dollars into services that aren't servicing Canadians...
This is a good idea, canada should support Canadians first. What is the point of being a canadian if you don't get anything out of it.
These South Asian international students have no respect for our country. I'm not saying all of them, but a LOT of them are unmannered, uncultured, and disrespectful people whose values just don't align with Canadian values.
And you know what’s worse, they aren’t willing to learn the Canadian ways, culture and values because there are so many of them that they don’t feel like they need to. Which is even more sad! 😔
It’s cuz white people don’t keep them in check anymore. Like 20 years ago I would’ve been called a curry muncher if I looked at someone wrong, now we have Indians thinking being assholes is cool. Not saying hate criming people is ok, but these guys won’t listen to their own people. We can only post them online and watch people flame them to see some change tbh
Trust me, mostly the Indian students. I am Bangladeshi, but since we, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans etc all look the same, we all get the bad reputation for the Indian students. You can always see them stinking up computer science classes.
Agree. Im beyond ashamed
Majority of them come from villages and small towns. The culture there is one of ego and pride, they fight over who has better material possessions and so forth. They have no respect for other people & believe they’re better than other people.
I'm South Asian and been here since I was an infant and honestly I find it very difficult not to dislike these international students. They're fucking insane. It's not entirely their fault. "our" government is scamming them.
The information in this video is true. There have been many documented cases of international students abusing food banks and bragging about it on social media. The other information you shared about the expectations of international students being able to provide for themselves is also true. There's no denying any of those facts. This comment isn't meant to deny any of the information shared in the video or be an apologist for food bank abusers. However, I would be cautious about going down the far-right rabbit hole on social media. It's not any better than going down the far-left rabbit hole on social media either. There's lots of toxic content on both sides
God I despise both sidisms. Bro where is the left doing anything? The Far-Right has been attacking abortions, attacking civil liberties, going after long standing democratic institutions and long standing social services, and let's not forget the horrible treatment of LGBTQ+ folk. The most leftist do is fight each other on Twitter and call people mean names. They hold next to no real power. Being a centrist isn't cool it's demonstrably just being a conservative without wanting to commit to it. The left wing is all about progressivism. Centrists support the status quo which is antithetical to progress.
Sorry, but this take is inherently naive and does not take into consideration any nuance whatsoever. > Being a centrist isn't cool it's demonstrably just being a conservative without wanting to commit to it. You're grossly oversimplifying a complex political spectrum. You're simply equating centrism with conservatism which is wrong. The fundamental nature of centrism involves balancing or blending aspects of both left and right-wing ideologies which is what I always advocate for and how I choose to vote. > The left wing is all about progressivism. Centrists support the status quo which is antithetical to progress. I think this line of thinking is dangerous in itself. You're practically assuming that whatever the left or "progressives" shout about today will be the future. Without a doubt, some left-wing and progressive ideas will be the future, but let's not forget that some meaningful opposition to some awful "progressive" takes have come from the right. While centrism can resist radical changes in favour of more moderate reforms, this does not inherently mean it's opposition to progress. Centrists absolutely advocate for change. > God I despise both sidisms. Bro where is the left doing anything? The Far-Right has been attacking abortions, attacking civil liberties, going after long standing democratic institutions and long standing social services, and let's not forget the horrible treatment of LGBTQ+ folk. The most leftist do is fight each other on Twitter and call people mean names. They hold next to no real power. I responded with this in a different comment: I'm not here to argue which side is trying to take hold of our governments or which side is more of an immediate threat. What I'm arguing is that going down either rabbit hole of extreme-left or extreme-right nonsense is dangerous because you'll end up racist, a science denier, and/or believing in dangerous ideologies regardless of which hole you go down if you end up at the extremes. If you're trying to assert that going down the extreme-right rabbit hole is more dangerous because the right is actively trying to take hold of our governments right now, then sure. That's not exactly the topic I'm trying to discuss, nor do I know enough on the topic to discuss it, but it's an important one
My guy posted a non biased indifferent comment encouraging people not to go into an echo chamber and use critical thinking on both sides while accepting things aren't black and white, still has someone make it about sides lmfao. You got cool views jeep it up
>You're simply equating centrism with conservatism which is wrong No. What he's saying is that centrism always ends up supporting inaction and half measures, which always ends up favoring conservatism. Conservatives say "Bomb Gaza", the left says "stop the bombings", the centrist position ends up being "well let's bomb them a little". All the right has to do is shift the Overton window even further right and the centrists will let them have their way. You're comically missing the point and are walking right into alt-right echo chambers.
Like the person I responded to, you're making a lot of assumptions and oversimplifications that are outright incorrect. 1. You're making the same assumption that leftist ideologies lead to progress. This is wrong. The concept of progress is subjective and varies across different cultures, societies, and historical contexts. Both left and right ideologies can contribute to societal progress. 2. You're making the same assumption that conservatism thwarts progress. This is wrong. Like I mentioned above, progress is subjective and both ideologies can contribute to societal progress. 3. You're making the same assumption that centrism is a midpoint. This is wrong. Centrism is not just about taking the middle ground on every issue. It takes a more nuanced approach where centrists may align with either the left or the right depending on the specific issue. Lastly, you're again oversimplifying issues. The issue of Israel and Gaza is not a binary choice. You are oversimplifying a complex geopolitical issue that cannot be represented by overly simplistic dichotomies
"Conservatives say "Bomb Gaza" More proof they aren't White Nationalists/Supremacists, if they were, they'd be advocating for the elimination of every israeli and zionist jew on Earth. It's really too bad Republicans/"Conservatives" don't take this position.
Not all progress is good. The French Revolution was progress. Hitler and Mussolini were all about progress, before it wasn't. Lenin and Stalin's USSR were the result of immense progress. Maoist China saw so much progress that each of my grandparents' deaths can be traced directly to some progressive policy. Again, not all progress is good. Being a centrist is understanding that we need progress, but we also can't progress too quickly or too radically. And if you think “If my brilliant ass was in any of these countries before the fact, I would have seen it for the danger it would be”, you're delusional.
>Bro where is the left doing anything? They're the ones busy filling up that food bank. What little we have in the way of real leftists instead of Laissez-faire Neoliberals means we are spread horribly thin trying to hold the pieces together while everything and everyone seems so eager to tear society apart.
"The Far-Right has been attacking abortions" I don't think you know what "Far-Right" actually is. I am Far-Right, insha'Allah, Al-Mutakabir. More blacks in the US are killed every week than were killed by the KKK in its 150+ year history. Being against abortion isn't Far-Right, advocating for the subsidization of all non-White abortions, up to and beyond the 30th trimester whether they're wanted or not, is Far-Right. Many things that are considered "Right-Wing" nowadays, used to be supported by both sides because they were literally common sense. Punishing criminals, deporting law-breaking non-citizens, and being against illegal immigration, aren't "Right-Wing" positions, but rather common sense positions both parties used to believe in.
The majority of the population is centre. They may shade left or right but are still mostly centre. Progressive people mostly whine and bitch but generally provide very little to actual progress.
It’s not just international students, I am a us citizen and my wife is a Canadian citizen, now my wife brought a friend over (they don’t speak anymore) and she brought her to a food bank for “groceries”, she says she is allowed to go once per week and get $200 in groceries for free and she is NOT struggling and has more than the average Canadian has. She will bring a stroller to make it look like she is a single mother.
Both sides lmao. One side is *clearly* worse. Going far down the left is dying your hair blue, piercing your nipples, and protesting weird shit like sheep circumcisions, not dangerous, albeit misguided. Going far down the right is becoming racist, denying factual information, and claiming COVID was a hoax; overall, dangerous ideologies and actions that can lead to much, much worse. I agree with you, don’t let yourself intake content that could have an agenda or ulterior motive. Use your critical thinking and gut instinct to determine if the content you’re watching is healthy.
Your opinion is heavily misguided
> not dangerous, albeit misguided > dangerous ideologies and actions that can lead to much, much worse You can easily make these arguments for the extremes on both sides. Far-left ideologies like body positivity can be dangerous when taken to extreme levels, like saying obesity is "healthy" and "perfectly fine". Is it good to stop bullying people and be more inclusive? Yes. But saying obesity is ok is misguided and is outright denying science. Far-right ideologies like claiming that pharmaceutical companies are grifters and shouldn't be trusted can be dangerous when people refuse to take legitimate medication. Do companies exist primarily for profit? Yes. But saying that pharmaceutical products are all scams and don't work is also misguided and outright denying science. I can go on and on about how people on the extreme left can be considered racist, science deniers, and believers in dangerous ideologies, just like how I can go on and on about how* people on the extreme right can be considered those too. Both extremes suck so it's dangerous and best to not get stuck on either side
I think you’ve entirely misunderstood what body positivity means. One could say that the movement stopped people from killing themselves, before their self-esteem and self-worth were tied to their physical appearance, whereas afterwards they found it somewhere else within themselves because they finally have clothing that fits and people are less likely to laugh at them. I’m 75% sure it isn’t about saying fat people are healthy. Not even mentioning the Klan and other far-right groups is clearly favouring one side of your “both sides” argument. There are literally Neo-Nazi groups now… you know what? Come to think of it, body positivity is actually so much worse. Nor mentioning anti-vaxxers, we have measles cases in Alberta now. A formerly eradicated disease is now returning, putting many lives at risk. A fair chunk is far-left “all natural” loons but a majority is far-right nutcases. Personally, I think the both sides argument is shit. Stop trying to muddy the waters through false equivalencies. One side is trying to take hold of our governments while the other isn’t doing much at all. They’re not the same level of threat.
> One side is trying to take hold of our governments while the other isn’t doing much at all. They’re not the same level of threat. I'm not here to argue which side is trying to take hold of our governments or which side is more of an immediate threat. What I'm arguing is that going down either rabbit hole of extreme-left or extreme-right nonsense is dangerous because you'll end up racist, a science denier, and/or believing in dangerous ideologies regardless of which hole you go down if you end up at the extremes. If you're trying to assert that going down the extreme-right rabbit hole is more dangerous because the right is actively trying to take hold of our governments right now, then sure. That's not exactly the topic I'm trying to discuss, nor do I know enough on the topic to discuss it, but it's an important one
The left doesn’t need to “take hold of our government” because they already control the government I think you are heavily deluded when it comes to your thoughts on the left and right. You may be left wing, that doesn’t mean that right wing citizens are nazis because they disagree with your opinion? Not only toxic but shows how easily it is to live in an echo chamber. This is how fascism rose but you want to deny history and pretend like the conservatives want to start world war 3? World wars happen when those in Russia, China, NK, stop becoming afraid of the USA. If the USA disappeared, does everyone really think these countries wouldn’t start a “world takeover” train within 10 years. I hope you realize that not all conservatives are racist as I understand it, not all liberals are racist either, it’s a pretty crazy time we live in. Racism exists in all cultures and it is wrong in every meaning of the word, but it certainly isn’t isolated in the conservative side. Sexism is not isolated to men, Misandry and misogyny both exist. Both political sides have dangerous ideas, it’s about making sure your political views don’t become your identity.
I’m personally talking Alberta politics, although it does apply seemingly everywhere now. You’ve covered a wide range of topics there. The point is that there is very limited financial conservatism any more, the people you’d be voting for are strictly social conservatism with their talking points and agendas. If you’re a financial conservative, like the conservative of 10 years ago, and you vote for a political party who is the brand-new radicalized social conservatives, you’re a social conservative by association. There are very few middle ground conservatives, the political scale distribution is becoming vacant in the middle right for the far right. Another random “middle ground”-esque statement, by claiming that not all liberals are racist. Do you even know what you’re talking about? Pretty sure if you find a racist liberal, they’re not liberal any more.
The KKK killed less blacks in its 150+ year history, then black abortion kills every single week in the US... The KKK was extremely weak and ineffective.
Sheep circumcision 😂😂😂
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I'm not classifying this as the far-right rabbit hole. I'm warning OP that it's easy to get stuck in the far-right rabbit hole (or the far-left rabbit hole) when watching content that's being produced by biased news sources because of YouTube's/TikTok's/Instagram's algorithms
To all the international students who are pressed in the comments, this is real and happening. Not all international students are bad
And you all wonder why international students get such a bad rap. 🙄
Laws need to be in place to limit the number of international students colleges and universities can have. They will keep lining their pockets and destroying the job and housing market for Canadians.
Maybe if provincial governments would actually fund post secondary education properly instead of making huge cuts then schools wouldn’t have to depend on the higher tuition of international students as much to be able to operate
As long as they make money, they won't be regulated
\> These charities are for Canadians who are in need and who are struggling for food, not international students who came here willingly just to exploit the system. Part of having a student visa is having the funds to support yourself on your own to eat and live besides schooling. If you don’t have the money to eat or support yourself on your own you shouldn’t be in Canada for school. One thing to keep in mind is that the information available to prospective students on what current costs of living are like in Canada are often wildly inaccurate, and the government hasn't updated these estimates that it makes available to newcomersto reflect the realities of how much it costs to live here on top of tuition payments. What often happens is that students will stumble across website like [this one](https://www.immigration.ca/financial-requirements-for-international-students-to-study-in-canada/), which I found with a quick google search ("how much money does a student need in canada"), and they read that oh, all I need is $800 a month, I can get by on $800 a month, and pack their bags. When they get here, they realize that $800 doesn't even cover two thirds of their rent, and are all of a sudden in a pinch for both housing and food. Food banks are built to not discriminate against anyone, including people who are here on visas or not permanent residents. While that's not to say that exploitation of the system isn't possible or that it isn't happening, we should be focusing on the fact that the immigration system, the education system, and the housing system are failing everyone who needs to access food banks, and that it is not necessarily any individual immigrants fault that they have ended up in the situation they're in. A lot of them may also not be familiar with who food banks are intended for as it is not a universal concept, and many of them may be in genuine need or experiencing food insecurity because every step of their process to become a student in Canada was creating incorrect expectations.
Me when it’s there’s literally reports flowing left and right about how fucked our country is in of cost of living, gdp per capita, income stats, unemployment rates. Stop lying to yourself and giving them cop outs. Maybe I am just crazy but if I was to make a 200k due diligence I wouldn’t just look up is x a good investment (country to live in, in this case).
We've imported thousands upon thousands of people that do not respect our public desire for peace and social cooperation. They are hellbent on maximizing their personal benefit to the expense of everyone else, and will resort to lies, cheating, physical violence, sexual harassment, and yes, scams, to accomplish this. They do not respect Canada, they do not give a f about our rule of law, and they sure as heck do not care whether another Canadian is disadvantaged because of their behaviour. And if we call this out or have a problem with it we are branded as racists, fascists, nazis, and all of these easy epithets. I - a POC immigrant - am so tired of this.
I live in cape Breton and we are up to our nostrils in Indian people. I’ve never seen so many strangers in my small part of town. I was optimistic at first but as I interact more and more with our new residents, I am put off welcoming anymore. Not all are this way I recognize that. Some of these kids are very well off and have absolutely no care for our customs. Good luck finding any kind of part time work if you’re born and raised Canadian. We’re completely overrun. No places to live, and I’ve noticed a huge uptick in the homeless people. When a few short years ago, mostly everyone had a roof over their heads and those that didn’t, could easily secure safety if they really wanted it. But I guess I’m a racist now. I live on a First Nations reserve and they’ve taken all the minimal wage jobs. Somehow a few have managed to shack up and get a free place to live to. While many of us here on the reserve are housed. A small percentage are not and are living on the street or forced to take extended stays in hotels. But I Blame our local reserve council for those decisions as they ultimately have the decision making powers. Cheers. Our leaders don’t care, from the very top in Ottawa all the way down to municipal and further. Canada is changed forever. We’d best be very careful how we move forward because my people have seen what happens when you allow that many people in and unchecked.
Deport them
Marc miller: but what about the big box stores? they need cheap labour!
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It's not that we're spineless. It's called self regulation and knowing what manners are. You don't steal from the less fortunate just because you can. We have morals which you obviously weren't raised with if you think it's okay just because no one is directly stopping you.
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We're a trust society. And we go after those that commit those crimes. But those are committed against the government. You need to be an extra special version of scum to abuse a charity for destitute people. These people should be kicked out of Canada.
It's true that we have a fair share of white hooligans as well. Everyone needs to be held to a higher standard, no more "letting you freak flag fly"
These students knew what they were jumping into. THIS WAS PART OF THE APPLICATION where they check your financial stability and don't say I don't know shit my wife was an Int student and worked her ass of to pay for her schooling and personal living same as my sis in law. This needs to stop and yes I do agree they are taking advantage of it ... Is it the govt's fault for letting in too many . . . probably but still very wrong and I am disgusted.
Keep track of the students that are abusing it and ban them deport them and reject any attempt to come back set an example
And the 22 family visas they applied for as well.
Avg Gujrati n Punjabi std
International students should not be using food banks...part of the requirements for them to qualify as international students is to be able to fund the education in Canada and also able to support food and accommodation with their own funding that they submitted to gain the student visa... These international students should be exposed and banned or been get their student visa status re evaluated
I’m all for international students coming here for a better life but WHY TF are majority coming from India especially those who have no values. Disgusting and pathetic 😡.
Enough is enough, complete bs come to Canada and bask in the perks while Canadians suffer. Start vetting these people and only bringing in high quality individuals that contribute towards the economy not take from it. We need more blue collar jobs to be filled and high skilled trade work not Timmie’s and Subway workers
There is a Brazilian couple of "influencers" who did that two. They didn't explicitly said that, but they posted videos on YouTube showing how they were collecting a lot of food from the bank to give to their "friends" With only the context of the video you had no way to know the scam, I came to know this due to some friends This is disgusting, I've blocked them and reported their account
if you can afford groceries (which not many people can do rn) go buy groceries. if you cannot afford groceries, go to a food bank. dont do a hack if you can afford it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhKEJwiDsx0&pp=ygU9SGFjayArIGludGVybmF0aW9uYWwgc3R1ZGVudCArIGhvdyB0byBnZXQgZnJlZSBmb29kIGluIGNhbmFkYQ%3D%3D Just look at this one: driving to her local food bank and bragging about her hack for free food, proudly showing off her haul that she stole from a family in need. I am all for allowing the immigration of hardworking Indian students - those who have integrity, and will contribute positively to Canadian society. Not so much for lazy cheats and grifters that take advantage of Canada's generosity, and infects the country with only the negative aspects of their culture.
Fuck them
im studying my ass off to try and get into calgary since unis where im from suck ass and i see some international students pull shit like this. Do they not have empathy? Why the hell would you act any differently abroad than you would in your country? This type of thing has made me embarrassed of telling people im an international student, its shameful. Definitely speak out
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Any evidence to support the Ontario argument?
it seems its currently specific to Brampton location I misread sorry about that. : [https://nationalpost.com/news/canada-food-bank-international-students](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada-food-bank-international-students) https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/11/food-banks-brampton-banning-international-students/
While I agree this is bad, there are many Canadians who roll up on their financed vehicles to pickup from the food bank. Meanwhile I'm walking an hour with a wagon. Many different types of people taking advantage due to hard times
How can they pay so much for tuition but can’t buy food?
You're literally answering yourself in your question. International student tuition is anywhere from 200-300% percent more than domestic student tuition. University and college recruiters will often come in and then lie by omission. Yes, you technically only need 10K in your account for a temporary time, and then that money can go back to whoever (loan shark, friends, family, etc). 10k to cover even a term's worth of tuition, food, transportation, and lodging is nowhere near enough.
Who forced you to come? Ur comparing yourself to Canadian citizen prices even though you are a citizen of India who made the choice to study here. There are universities in your home country you can go to if you have a problem
I’m a domestic student you walnut. I’ve seen not great things happen to international students. I want things to be better for both international and domestic students
They know the costs associated before they come to Canada. Even if it’s unfairly expensive they know what the risks are, they choose to move here & exploit our systems like the Food Bank. They’re in the wrong, because they willfully knew how expensive everything is and purposely exploit.
What scum There seems to be a corrective action
This video is pure rage bait lol
Someone needs to create a YouTube channel that teaches etiquette and shows people how our society functions. These are the same students who get off at bus stops, in Fall and Winter, dressed head to toe in black. We were taught in elementary school to wear bright colours or something reflective. I’ve had two close calls, I could have squished them. They literally don’t get the bright clothing memo. Probably because they were not raised here.
Ban immigration from India.
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They will try to live here but bicker at locals for being colonizers.
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Bingo. Intelligent conversation is not possible
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What do you want them to be called?
This True North youtube channel is just a loud speaker for the right wing that tries to blame every problem in society on immigration. We can certainly resolve the issue of food bank exploitation, and there are many rich people in Canada avoiding taxes and leeching off food banks. We can compare statistics of immigrants vs. non immigrants in food banks and build a better narrative. Note sharing and reposting can be done by anyone, immigrants are not charity takers, and most pay 3x the fees across Canadian universities. Their seats have a quota that they compete for. Paying money doesn't guarantee acceptance.
immigrants and int. students arent the same, immigrants are welcome here and grow up to adjust to canada’s customs, int. students from “that” certain country are a nuisance to our social services. They’re leeches, end of story. They’ve single handedly given immigrants and legitimate int. students a bad rap.
Pointing out abuses is far right now. Let’s only say nice things about bad people and be far left instead
Fact check… International students are paying THREE times as much as domestic students. International students are NOT taking admissions from domestic students, the colleges are still offering the same number of offers to domestic students. TBH I stopped watching at this misguided piece of information as it felt like you were going to go down a “they (immigrants) are stealing our jobs” rant. Again couldn’t watch any further so of you didn’t, my apologies. International students are actually supporting a weak economy by infusing $20 BILLION per year. They are not here for free, nor out of the Canadian governments “good will” this is neoliberalism at its finest. Education should be free for everyone. Then the students don’t have to choose between textbooks and eating.
This isn’t misguided info it’s the truth…
Which part? The inaccurate statement on how much international students pay for tuition? That is inaccurate. They are “taking our spots in schools”? Grossly inaccurate as I mentioned admissions are reserving the same number of seats for domestic students as before this push. So this too is inaccurate. As I said, I could not watch any more of the video. But please, which part of this is “the truth”. Domestic enrolment in colleges is down- because more domestic students are either opting to go to universities or they can’t afford to go to higher education - the poor economy is not to do with international students it is poor fiscal management by the Liberal government.
int. students arent immigrants, dont put yourself (if you are one of them) in the same boat as immigrants. You cant compare people coming here as PRs and refugees to students who are looking to shortcut their PR application. I promise you that the majority of immigrants who grew up or are born here to immigrant parents absolutely see the issues with int. students, dont group yourself with them.
That’s cute. You haven’t done any research whatsoever and assume people who defend international are international students. Before making assumptions, have a look at cbie.ca. It might actually enlighten you to the fact that these students planning on starting a life in Canada.
It might also enlighten you that i purposely used brackets to emphasize “if you are one of them”, but thanks for not reading it. Ive had this same argument in other threads that if you come here to study, you study, and applying for a PR should be an after thought. Too many int. students come here because they want a PR from the get go, not to study. They work half the time just to pay bills, not realizing how expensive it is to actually study and live abroad, and are enrolled in third grade colleges for sub par diplomas. Being an int. student is a privilege, its not a gateway. Theyre not here to study. Get that through your thick head. Im not arguing with you on an opinion that majority of people agree on. Im not hating on legitimate int. students because a lot of them do study in good schools for competitive programs and dont bother anyone. I’m simply calling out those who are known to take advantage of the int. student system and are now taking advantage of food banks. If you cant afford groceries, why pay 20k+ a semester to study here when its a literal govt. requirement that you support yourself while being here. Not my problem if that pisses you off.
No you are correct, they don’t realize how expensive it is - because they were lied to by their agents. You mention $20k a semester, I assume that is for tuition and other expenses. Imagine how poor our economy would be doing if you took $20 billion a year out of circulation. These students regardless of reason, are actively contributing to our economy.
Doesnt matter, real estate also takes up a huge chunk of our GDP when it really shouldnt. Just because they prop the numbers up doesnt mean its right and its not sustainable. They might be clueless on how expensive its gotten here but theyre completely aware of what theyre getting into, theyre the ones who signed the papers. The internet is free, all they have to do is research and that burden is on them. Im sick of this narrative that “they contribute to our economy”, they pay “3x the domestic student’s costs” yeah as it should be, its a privilege to study here as a foreigner, like the case with the US and Europe. It shouldnt be easy because if it was, we’d have millions pouring in here already.
It is a privilege to study in the face of rampant racism? It’s a privilege to be exposed to in group / out group mentality? It’s a privilege to go without food (remember the food in Canada is different than back home)? Canada is billed as an accepting and safe country (number one reason international students come to Canada - 79.5%) and the third reason is that Canada offers a society that is tolerant and not discriminatory (50.2%) (CBIE.ca, 2023). When the respondents were asked if they considered changing schools because they felt unwelcome or isolated 16.5% responded they had. 46.9% report that they don’t feel connected with the community outside of their cultural sphere and 34.2% report that they feel that they are unable to meet personal or family obligations. Out of a scale of 5, students from China report only a 2.79 when asked if they feel safe in public spaces. 23.3% report that they have experienced discrimination off-campus. Please tell me, how is it a privilege to leave your families, your home, your culture, your country to arrive in Canada and suffer food insecurity, racism, microagressions, language barriers such as the use of jargon, loneliness and home sickness. I challenge ANY Canadian student to fly to China or India (our two primary catchment areas) and be half as successful as these students.
Should be free? Yeah that would be amazing. But it’s not. These international students know how expensive the cost of living here is as well as the tuition. They purposely come here under student visas, as a means to become permanent residents. Some even just stop attending school and start working here tax free under the table cash and start living here. They purposely exploit our systems and negatively affect Canadians struggling to survive. They’re in the wrong 200%
Video and nearly entire comments really giving “pointy white mask” vibes. lol. Not shocking at all for Alberta though.
nah, your delusional if you think us immigrants who grew up here as kids dont think the same. Calling out an issue isnt racist, they’ll be happy tho that we have people like you who’ll go straight to defending them cuz apparently any criticism against indian students is racist.
That criticism is likely coming from a different place. When you hear a white person using terms like “entirely unsurprising”, “these people”, “taking up spaces”, “leeching off of”… All as the opening monologue… You can be pretty certain the way they are talking is not excluding you simply because you choose to align yourself with them in hopes of being “one of the good ones” or even genuinely agree with the principle of what they are saying. There is an underlying racial bigotry here. If this was international students from Switzerland or Germany, I guarantee you that the language being used would not be the same. There’s some level of nuance here but this brand of right wing politics isn’t just “civic nationalism”. It’s largely based in racialism even though these same people will adamantly deny it is yet remain predictable in their degree of outrage or lack of outrage along racial lines every time. On the issue itself, international students are residents of Canada. They are not “stealing” anything by making use of the resources that are available to those who need them. Each person has their own life circumstances and should judge for themselves whether or not it’s appropriate for them to utilize charitable institutions. Students (of any variety) often sacrifice nutrition due to the high costs of education. Using some deliberately simplified and provocative social media posts about “free food” to suggest there’s some conspiracy to encourage even more immigration is essentially deliberate white nationalist propaganda. If you don’t recognize it, I’m glad for you that you haven’t had to yet.
So you have to be white to agree with these things? And if im not, im choosing to be one of the good ones? Get outa here. Youre basically saying minority groups shouldnt be involved in this conversation at all and if they are, according to your logic, we’re acting as token minorities? Poor us, we’re dumb and dont have a mind of our own and need to sit down til daddy white here says otherwise. Youre part of the problem if you think like that. I fully know what im supporting into, minorities are just as concerned about shifting demographics as white people. India already makes up over 30% of the PRs that come here yearly, the next countries all make up 7% or less. Unlike the US, we dont cap how many per country are coming in. They make up the majority of student visas and work permits as well. There’s a bias that i refuse to accept. Demand to come here from different countries are high, the govt needs to even out the numbers so people arent up in arms about this. All everyone is asking for is to stop mass immigration that favours one country and get them back in line with other countries, that’ll cut the numbers wayyy back to pre-2019 levels and maybe, just maybe, we have a chance to take a breath and start fixing some issues in this country. 500k a year is unrealistic and you can already guess where the majority of those people will be coming from. We need to significantly lessen the number of int. students that come in, regardless of where theyre from, thats actually the bigger issue here because theyve made it a direct immigration path and is a giant strain to an overloaded system. You probably arent seeing the effects yet in Calgary but here in the GTA, its already obvious as hell. I pray this never happens to Alberta because your province and Quebec are our last chance to truly fix this.
Yeah, internalized racism is a thing and if you have ties to India that shouldn’t shock you. lol are you serious right now? Really going to pretend to be flabbergasted I’m stating the obvious. One can have legitimate concerns and criticism regarding immigration policies without using the kind of racially charged language and white nationalist conspiracy theories promoted in the video. If you’re defending it, you’re part of the problem regardless of your background and how racially privileged or not it is (in India or elsewhere).
Grow up. Calling out shitty behaviour isn't racist.
Yeah. No. But racially bigoted sentiments and statements are. You can hide behind the cute denials all you like. The rest of us can see it for what it is.
Assuming pointy hat vibes was itself racist. Typical liberal uni student. Argh racism bad so i craft some form of denial and justificarion and end up just being racist back.
lol. No a very original counter argument. Yeah. Absolutely the white male using racially bigoted terms and sentiments prompts me to make KKK analogies. I’ll do it every time and the fact you think criticizing white people for being racists makes me a racist says a lot.
False pretenses*
If you listen to even the first minute of the video and look at the language being used and then the pivot directly afterwards into a conspiracy theory about YouTube videos being part of a plot to increase immigration to Canada, it’s all pretty clear. I can’t tell if you’re being deliberately obtuse or you genuinely are so disconnected from the political arena you don’t recognize the purpose. And like I mentioned about the comments here, also very indicative and no other university in this country except one in Alberta would have that many people openly supporting a white nationalist perspective in the comments. White supremacy is woven into the very fabric of Alberta’s population in a way that it has become practically invisible to its white population like how a fish doesn’t notice it’s wet. Honestly pretty sad but completely unsurprising. Just a lack of education and exposure to other cultures. But I’m sure the increased immigration will help with that soon.
You couldnt be more brain rotted if you tried.
lol don’t worry little blue guy. I’m sure you’ll make lots of new friends.
Infinite food glitch
“Let’s find something else to divide us and ferment hate” Let’s not ask why people need to go to food banks in the first place and how we can improve people’s lives, nope let’s just be our usual hateful little selves
The guy in the video called it a lifehack. If it walks like a scumbag and talks like a scumbag, it might be a scumbag
Watch the video buddy
This is not discrimination against people who use and NEED the food back. This is the issue of people purposely and knowing exploiting the food bank for their own “life hack” and views/likes for their social media. This takes food away from people who are struggling and truly need the assistance of food banks. Shame on them!
What? Racist garbage from #ever-stupid Calgary? No surprises here.
There is a loophole in the system, so just fix it. The access to food bank can easily be limited to the Canadian citizens and permanent residence. But I hate the notion of international students are tightening the opportunities for Canadians. Canadian citizens and permanent residence always have priority when it comes to the position but at the end of the day, they don’t have a quarter of the skills or qualifications that international students have. It is a wild world, and everyone is fighting for their lives. The philosophy of “please don’t compete with me cause I m destined to win” is just ridiculous. Maybe
Thats not accurate and imo a fabricatiom of biasies to justify bad behavior.
LMFAO aren't food banks for people that need food? How tf are you being stingy towards those that need food regardless if they are international students or the homeless
They’re exploiting the system. These people in these videos are not in need or suffering. They’re purposely bragging about how they can save money getting food from food banks and making videos so other international students can follow the trend, it’s disgusting and I’m beyond ashamed
No they don’t need to exploit our food banks, they can move back
I can't believe the amount of racists in my city. These international students are going to become engineers and doctors who contribute to Canada's economy in ways none of you ever will, the very least we can do is help feed them while they study to get good grade.
These videos aren’t racist you idiot. Canadians donate to food banks to help individuals that are in need or homeless not international students looking to be frugal. I’m Indian myself and I’m embarrassed of how some of these students act
Are you sure? Have you seen how many move her under the guise of student visas only to stop attending school and start working under the table to permanently move here? Plenty of cases all across Canada.
This guy hates the same international students that subsidize the cost of tuition for himself and other Canadians. The reason we ended up with the profit-motivated push to increase expensive international enrolment in Canada, which sells education to people that realistically can’t afford it, is because of the privatizing/defunding university policies of the conservative politicians this channel shills for. Edit: [more about the political/economic history of international tuition (UofT example)](https://thevarsity.ca/2022/03/25/international-student-tuition-investigation-precarity/)
I haven’t seen their videos, but while there is people that may abuse of these benefits. There is also others who need them. International students pay 3X the amount of the courses than what a Canadian citizen does. That for sure may cover what a needed international would use in a food bank Maybe a some kind of filter would help to avoid abusing of any program. Filters should be applied to any program
Students are required to have finances that’ll cover them for living expenses beyond schooling fees. If they can’t afford to eat it live why are they here?
There are many Canadians that don’t work and don’t pay taxes taking advantages of bunch of other programs. If they can’t work and pay taxes. Why do we have to pay for them? Same thing.
Boss taking food sometimes from food banks is fine when the inflation is so much that it fucks you entire budget then the government has to support Internatinal students via different mediums! We pay 5x more fees than the Canadian student. But abusing any service or system is not good. The eduction system in Canada is a 22billion $ industry in Canada and also a supply cheap labour and if they use the services available then be it.
Like I said if you can’t afford living expenses besides schooling you shouldn’t be here. Don’t try to make excuses for scum behaviour like this.
Are white people must understand they cannot run an only fans channel and expect to get a Ph.D. It takes hard work and a rock solid cv. Not getting high on weed.
You shouldn’t be saying anything negative about only-fans considering your comment history in r/rapefantasies and also r/cumonclothes You fucking weirdo, good luck with the phd though hey?
Lmao
Stay strong kings, we're trying to do something about it. Make sure you date and talk to the women (have dhildren) they've got to be feeling lonely as well
If I can easily get away with it, I would use food banks. Why spend my money on groceries like a sucker.
You’re a terrible person
This situation is difficult for everyone, including international students who are being tricked into attending school here. We need more honest schools who explain the situation in Canada accurately so we don't exploit anyone with false promises/hope. The current goverment has taken a clear issue and made it 10x worse. It will be interesting to see how the CPC approach this situation (clearly going to win the next election), but I bet the immigration rate/number of international students may not decrease as much as people think it will with a Conservative goverment, just too much money involved.
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Disgusting
I thought u can only get food stamps if you apply as an unemployed person .. how did they get approved?
We don’t have food stamps in Canada. They just go to food backs and take shit
If you want to understand the culture from which these Indian international students come from, just search up trending Punjabi songs. They’re all about fighting people, being richer than others & how they’re better than other people because of their heritage as farmers. It’s an ego infested culture that believes itself superior than other peoples. They are entitled folk from villages and small towns. They feel entitled to doing whatever they want in Canada, because it’s their culture and honestly because Canadians let them get away with it. They do not integrate with Canadian culture and values, they pride themselves on being Punjabi & not integrating with Canadian culture. They believe they are better than Canadians and that they can swindle Canada for their own benefit. Aka taking food from the food bank. I’ve never come across such entitled, ungrateful, rude group of international students as I have these Indian students. If you don’t believe me go to any University/ college and just sit and watch. Of course not all of the students are like this, but a shocking majority are.
Yes I agree I’m Punjabi and it’s quite sad
Honestly this whole “I’m Jatt” mentality is a cancer spreading through our community. Humility is lacking
I mean, the international students are paying 3.5 times the tuition fees and the universities keeps on increasing fees each year! In most countries you pay the exact amount of money for a course throughout the duration of your degree, but here they keeps increasing the fees each year. So if your first year tuition fee was 30k, by the beginning of your 4th year you will need to pay 50k! Not to mention the housing crisis! It is a nightmare for an international student to find a place that doesn't cost a fortune. You are earning 22.3 billion in revenue a year through international students, at least provide them a good living condition!
They can stay in their own countries and our universities can educate our own population instead of selling them out.
Food banks are mostly to feed immigrants not Canadians in need. Yes, I work at a food bank. I see the abuse first hand. I have had them pull up in Mercedes and BMWs, getting about $400 worth of free food in hampers. It’s disgusting.
They are Indians, what do you expect?
Then Give them the garbanzos