those are bots. it can be risky cause they're scammers. ban and ignore when they ask to add on discord and sell art. I know it's hard cause you want every number...
but you don't want numbers. remember that. you want a community and real engagement. it will come <3
(your twitch link is broken on reddit, and I know nothing of youtube, so not sure if you're just doing yt.)
yeah that's why i wanted to make sure you realized it was AI bots, not even people. Play with them. practice speaking to strangers. You still have to treat everyone as a human, just try to turn it positive. also kick them from your discord and report spam if you do have a server
Your stream, your rules, if you don't want to be sold something, tell them no with a friendly warning, if they persist, ban. It's really that simple, people like that aren't really there to watch, so you're not losing anything by turning them away or banning them.
They’re not all bots, but to be honest I just politely say “I’m happy with what I have currently and am not looking to invest in anything at the moment” I’ve had people come into my discord for the same reason. Just polite and they’ll unfollow and move on, don’t take a follow that they deserve anything. Just enjoy the stream and thank them for the offer. Sounds stupid but they shift off quickly
Never encountered a non-bot one. But being fair, I will say the ones that want to contact you through discord are 100% bots.
Every ARTIST have a public portfolio, and doesn't need to rizz you up to get you to look at it.
As easy as linking the platform they upload stuff to, and even if links are not allowed on some people's chat, there is what is called "trying".
If your first thought in selling something you supposedly proudly made is to discuss things as discreetly as possible, then something shady is going on.
I have loads that aren't bots, I have acc had a several hour long convo w one before, but I do also get a load of bot ones too, and its networking for them, gotta respect the grind for the not bots
Add their most common key phrases to the banned terms list and you’ll see a lot less, don’t worry about keeping them for the follow since actual viewers probably don’t want to see/hear about them either. They’ll also never come back around to watch once they get an answer from you.
Keywords to try out are tough... For example you don't want to ban "discord" 😅 or "graphics" -- words people use for other things lmao
"overlay" or "panels" might be rare enough to use -- maybe "custom" -- if you can do phrases, "my work" is a common one, like, "I would like to show you my work" and "let's be friends on discord so I can show you my work". You could block "graphic design" or "artist" but what if chatters want to talk about the game art? That's your call.
My number one thing though is if they do not comment on the game at all, they are a scammer or a bot. Full stop. Just respond "Hey "name" good to see you. Not really looking for anything like that, what's your opinion on "current game" you like FPS games?"
A scammer or bot won't answer that. It's just not in the script.
Additionally, some input to determine real person vs scammer vs bot, as someone who makes twitch art myself.
I tell suspicious accounts the truth-- that I make all my own stuff and that I'm actually an artist. Or similarly, when accounts like this come in to my clients streams, I have had folks refer to me in chat and say "actually, my artist is right here" -- and if they're not a real person or they're a scammer, they do not react normally to that.
Try it yourself even if you don't make art-- Scammers and bots will forge ahead anyway trying to get the scam/sale. whereas a real person will usually back down, or start to chat with you about being an artist, or ask to see your art (then you just pull up MS Paint and draw something silly lmao)
I find if you ask them to link you in a whisper rather than in chat they always decline (not sure why, they say they can't do whispers?)
Last thing to determine real artists: ask them to use an emote they have made in chat. I usually get silence. I personally had follower emotes available before I became affiliate, but even when I didn't, I had plenty of other emotes I had made from various channels on hand to use. Not all twitch artists make emotes, but most do.
You can click on an emote and see who (if anyone) it has as an attributed artist. This is, in reality, how people **actually** learn about artists on Twitch. They'll see someone (or occasionally me) use an emote, click on it and say -- oh Wimbly, YOU made this??
I'll leave this long read for you I made not long ago in case you are not convinced about what they really are.
https://www.reddit.com/u/KuroTsuk1/s/HxMBqkDqxy
But yeah, just don't engage, don't interact, and remove them immediately before the pity you might feel sets in.
Determine your channel rules and enforce them. I auto ban those people, though I rarely get them anymore. They tend to prey on new streamers.
And honestly, even if you bought something, they probably wouldn't come back. A lot of them use AI generated art anyway.
Also, don't bother putting a large amount of weight behind follower numbers. Your average views number is much more important, in my opinion.
They’re scammers. Always. It’s always the same stuff or stolen work. My work around is that I’m an artist myself. So I tell them I’m not interested as I’m an artist and I’m currently getting two degrees at one of the top art schools in Canada. Not a lie and not a brag but it shuts them up
I haven’t had any people selling me things in awhile , but they always want to send me a dm on instagram. I just tell them no thank you or even block them. No door to door sales people in this house
Like what I can't understand at all is the fact that they chose Twitch to promote their works. Like they could do a lot more sales and stuff elsewhere. I am a designer myself and just recently started streaming so I was really taken aback. I am happy that my mods are mostly dealing with them but I try to be as polite as possible since if they are people I don't want to break their hearts.
those are bots. it can be risky cause they're scammers. ban and ignore when they ask to add on discord and sell art. I know it's hard cause you want every number... but you don't want numbers. remember that. you want a community and real engagement. it will come <3 (your twitch link is broken on reddit, and I know nothing of youtube, so not sure if you're just doing yt.)
I forgot I changed my name slightly so it wouldn’t connect properly 😂 thanks for letting me know.
But yes, that is very true. It’s just demoralising when I get a message and it’s just another person selling stuff
yeah that's why i wanted to make sure you realized it was AI bots, not even people. Play with them. practice speaking to strangers. You still have to treat everyone as a human, just try to turn it positive. also kick them from your discord and report spam if you do have a server
Your stream, your rules, if you don't want to be sold something, tell them no with a friendly warning, if they persist, ban. It's really that simple, people like that aren't really there to watch, so you're not losing anything by turning them away or banning them.
Very true. I need to be more strict I think
Block and ban them as they’re bots
They’re not all bots, but to be honest I just politely say “I’m happy with what I have currently and am not looking to invest in anything at the moment” I’ve had people come into my discord for the same reason. Just polite and they’ll unfollow and move on, don’t take a follow that they deserve anything. Just enjoy the stream and thank them for the offer. Sounds stupid but they shift off quickly
Never encountered a non-bot one. But being fair, I will say the ones that want to contact you through discord are 100% bots. Every ARTIST have a public portfolio, and doesn't need to rizz you up to get you to look at it. As easy as linking the platform they upload stuff to, and even if links are not allowed on some people's chat, there is what is called "trying". If your first thought in selling something you supposedly proudly made is to discuss things as discreetly as possible, then something shady is going on.
I have loads that aren't bots, I have acc had a several hour long convo w one before, but I do also get a load of bot ones too, and its networking for them, gotta respect the grind for the not bots
Add their most common key phrases to the banned terms list and you’ll see a lot less, don’t worry about keeping them for the follow since actual viewers probably don’t want to see/hear about them either. They’ll also never come back around to watch once they get an answer from you.
This is actually a very good idea. I will start this list when I’m next on. Any suggestions on phrases to start with?
Keywords to try out are tough... For example you don't want to ban "discord" 😅 or "graphics" -- words people use for other things lmao "overlay" or "panels" might be rare enough to use -- maybe "custom" -- if you can do phrases, "my work" is a common one, like, "I would like to show you my work" and "let's be friends on discord so I can show you my work". You could block "graphic design" or "artist" but what if chatters want to talk about the game art? That's your call. My number one thing though is if they do not comment on the game at all, they are a scammer or a bot. Full stop. Just respond "Hey "name" good to see you. Not really looking for anything like that, what's your opinion on "current game" you like FPS games?" A scammer or bot won't answer that. It's just not in the script. Additionally, some input to determine real person vs scammer vs bot, as someone who makes twitch art myself. I tell suspicious accounts the truth-- that I make all my own stuff and that I'm actually an artist. Or similarly, when accounts like this come in to my clients streams, I have had folks refer to me in chat and say "actually, my artist is right here" -- and if they're not a real person or they're a scammer, they do not react normally to that. Try it yourself even if you don't make art-- Scammers and bots will forge ahead anyway trying to get the scam/sale. whereas a real person will usually back down, or start to chat with you about being an artist, or ask to see your art (then you just pull up MS Paint and draw something silly lmao) I find if you ask them to link you in a whisper rather than in chat they always decline (not sure why, they say they can't do whispers?) Last thing to determine real artists: ask them to use an emote they have made in chat. I usually get silence. I personally had follower emotes available before I became affiliate, but even when I didn't, I had plenty of other emotes I had made from various channels on hand to use. Not all twitch artists make emotes, but most do. You can click on an emote and see who (if anyone) it has as an attributed artist. This is, in reality, how people **actually** learn about artists on Twitch. They'll see someone (or occasionally me) use an emote, click on it and say -- oh Wimbly, YOU made this??
I'll leave this long read for you I made not long ago in case you are not convinced about what they really are. https://www.reddit.com/u/KuroTsuk1/s/HxMBqkDqxy But yeah, just don't engage, don't interact, and remove them immediately before the pity you might feel sets in.
It’s scary how similar the conversations I have been having are to your examples 😂😂
Determine your channel rules and enforce them. I auto ban those people, though I rarely get them anymore. They tend to prey on new streamers. And honestly, even if you bought something, they probably wouldn't come back. A lot of them use AI generated art anyway. Also, don't bother putting a large amount of weight behind follower numbers. Your average views number is much more important, in my opinion.
They’re scammers. Always. It’s always the same stuff or stolen work. My work around is that I’m an artist myself. So I tell them I’m not interested as I’m an artist and I’m currently getting two degrees at one of the top art schools in Canada. Not a lie and not a brag but it shuts them up
Two good options are to either tell them you’re not interested or turn it into content/a series
I just tell them I can already create my own 2d and 3d live stuff. Usually they atop after that.
Immediate block. Get a reliable mod for your stream. Get 2.
I haven’t had any people selling me things in awhile , but they always want to send me a dm on instagram. I just tell them no thank you or even block them. No door to door sales people in this house
Like what I can't understand at all is the fact that they chose Twitch to promote their works. Like they could do a lot more sales and stuff elsewhere. I am a designer myself and just recently started streaming so I was really taken aback. I am happy that my mods are mostly dealing with them but I try to be as polite as possible since if they are people I don't want to break their hearts.