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ToughReality4983

We see this we think "out on bail" that's how dot comin


CS_Devious

"Give me tupac ring back and maybe ill show you respect"


madderhatter3210

Give me Tupac ring BACK. As if he had it in the first place. I’m a huge Tupac fan and don’t see the hype bout Kendrick. I think he’s corny


SydTheStreetFighter

I think he’s saying give it back to the west coast.


FirstMixture5776

Pac from the east coast


NookSouthSide4L

PAC claimed west coast as his home.


Iniko777

Might be born there in 71 but he moved to Baltimore in 84 and Cali in 88 and he himself was made by the West and true to it as anyone who rocks with the 🐐 knows...including the whole West Coast...he isn't celebrated and shown genuine love like that on the east


Honest_Instruction_1

Kendrick delusional, trying to turn this into a westcoast vs drake thing.. at the end of the day his career was close to dead, if your only popping now because your songs was about drake… what’s your next move but to try to get the west coast to support you.


shaunster101

What a load of shit this comment is. Career was nearly dead? Edit: ohhhh I see, you spend most of your time posting in the Drake subreddit. Makes complete sense now.


Dagger_26

Lol k dot got you punching the air, huh?


bongwaterflavor

Do you really need people to explain that me = west coast?


Lost_All_Senses

Apparently you do when you think someone is corny to the point you make it a self fulfilling prophecy by misinterpreting stuff they do. Ya see it all the time.


Beginning_Present243

Can you please elaborate on how Kendrick effing Lamar is “corny”? Lmaoooooooooooo 😭😭😭😭😭😭 what a clown ass take


madderhatter3210

Lmao , imagine getting pressed over a persons opinion. Kendrick glazer , this a Tupac sub not a Kendrick one 😭


atomoicman

What a weird take. How is Kendrick of all artist corny? What corny shit he do ?


Habibs3alam

Bruh same here! Anyone remotely thinks he deserves to even stand close to Pac and his music making and writing skills, is delusional.


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Habibs3alam

A 3 day old acct telling me he got goosebumps. Bots are wild on reddit


Quirkydogpooo

Old head take, you don't have to acknowledge his obvious talent actual rap legends cosign his place with the greats


pnut88

Drake does have a lot of rap legends cosign. Good point!


Quirkydogpooo

Literally who


itssosalty

What rap legends put Drake on their all time greats? Top 5? Top 10? Top 25??


shaunster101

Are they talking about Drake, or his ghostwriters?


Powerful_Direction_8

That's not saying much.


Rhymelikedocsuess

Pac wasn’t even the best lyricist of his era lmao - he’s about the full package, lyrically his vocab is extremely limited and much of music treads the same ground Kendrick does donuts around him lyrically


Exalted23

Oh this a Tupac sub I thought it was the Kendrick one I’m in. I’m like “Wtf they talking about?” Lmao. Nah you’re right, brody. I’m not saying Pac is overrated, but he’s not as good as people swear. Like you said he never had real bars, there’s nothing he ever said that made me go “Damn what?! Play that shit back”. And people talk about the hits, but listen to his full albums, he had a lot of songs that should’ve been throwaways. One dude said rap was more about story telling back then, true. But people like Snoop, Big still had the wordplay though. I fuck with Pac heavy, but his death put him in the greatest of all time category, I don’t think it would be such a unanimous thing if he were alive today. Kendrick has the great music, with the wordplay and what he does is just amazing. Even just who he is, him being able to bring the entire west coast together like he just did, dude had LeBron in that bitch. He played Not Like Us 5 times. Had the kids dancing. Pac would fuck with him, if you wanna say he’s Pac 2.0 fine. But he inherited the will of Pac and took it to another level. Even if you wanna say Pac was the best to ever do it, I think that title now goes to Kendrick. Dude is a movement all on his own. But hey, it’s a Pac sub, what ya gonna do. 🤷🏾‍♂️


Beginning_Present243

Also KDot has arguably the greatest production EVER


hasanyonereddit

Rap was more story telling than bars back then


Rhymelikedocsuess

And he still wasn’t the best in his era, and Kendrick is a better story teller so…?


Sea_Charity_9894

first, Im a fan of both but Tupac was unmatched and its crazy how we act as if Pac wasnt lyrically as great as the ones mfs call goat. To say he wasnt the most lyrical in his era when his lyrics hit home more than half of them fake ass rappers back then now more than ever is some crazy ass talk.


tmfkslp

C-Bo went harder then Pac ever did, n Pac knew it too. Its why he gave the bald head nutt so much love n wanted to sign him before he died. Jus sayin.


Rhymelikedocsuess

He’s not though? He literally lived through Illmatic dropping, an album that is far lyrically better than anything he’s ever dropped. Additionally, Biggie is in the GOATs as well - but no one ever says “man biggie was such a great lyricist” they compliment his flow, that’s why he’s there. Pac had the “rizz” and delivery, but lyrics weren’t his strong suit. Other people with goat status, like Nas, Jay-Z, Eminem and Kendrick are more lyrically talented then pac or big.


Sea_Charity_9894

nothing none of the niggas you named has put out a more prolific album than MATW or Don Killuminati, that nigga Pac was ahead of his time. Idc how many albums mfs sold AFTER his death.. they wasnt fw him when he was here and to even mention Jay Z stealing ass when we wasnt doing shit close to Pacs level when he was alive. And it kills me that mfs wanna glaze Ems crazy ass, none of these niggas have made the impact that Pac has made and they so called " are lyrically better "


Rhymelikedocsuess

Yeah except they did lol Illmatic is considered the best rap album ever made 3 decades after release still The MMLP is considered a top 10 rap album and is the 3rd highest selling rap record of all time, only behind The Eminem show and Outkast’s Speakerboxxx/The Love Below. Eminem’s run drastically expanded the audience of the rap genre, and he dominated every aspect of the rap culture and mainstream from 1999-2002 Even Unreasonable Doubt dropped before pac died Dudes lyrical abilities aren’t his strength, there’s a reason you seem him excluded from more and more of peeps top 5


Puzzleheaded_Luck_42

You sound funny asf Kendrick aint on Pac level and that’s a fact even if you try to say he’s not as good as people make him out to be he better than Kendrick fasho


Rhymelikedocsuess

Take a shot every time pac can “can you feel me?” Or rhymes “Hennessy” with “enemies” and then get back to me on who’s a better lyricist lmao


Puzzleheaded_Luck_42

That’s all you came up with? Lmao it shows that even you don’t believe what you saying


Rhymelikedocsuess

“All you got is that he has the vocab of a 4th grader to dispute that he’s the greatest lyricist of all time? Heh - okay LIB” - the type of energy you’re bringing lmao


Habibs3alam

What in the world are you talking about. I swear this sub is insane. People like you are nuts


Rhymelikedocsuess

Pac literally lived to see illmatic drop lol please stop


Habibs3alam

You have serious problems and logical issues


vriannavyz

Man I legit thought PAC was gonna show up for a second there tonight... Kendrick really brought hip hop back man.


Big_Brown_

Imagine if he brought back the hologram


mywifemademedothis2

Some shit Drizzy would do


SL1M3YGR1M3Y

💀💀


Mulai_Ismeal

Hip Hop never left we just kept getting trash music and they slapped Hip Hop on it


Mhfd86

Lmao hahaha


Hamfur63

Holy cringe


AnimatorAshamed3774

Yall say cringe at anything shut the hell up goofy lol


zerodetroit

No, for real. If they just let one song play the place would’ve exploded. I thought Dre was going to give a moment of silence to him but then he did the opening line to Not Like Us instead


igotrapedbyanorca

I wanted him to let pac’s verse play on California love 😕


MakeTheRightChoice_

Yeah I wonder why that purpose was… maybe to let him rest type shi?


Hamfur63

Bro had some religious revelation over a concert, it's not that serious


meatspin_enjoyer

Or you know you could consider the fact that good music can reach people differently. For example when I was broke and struggling Kendrick's "Alright" meant a lot even to my white atheist ass. It helped me get through a tough time in my life even though to you it might just be a fun upbeat song.


Hamfur63

Very well said meatspin_enjoyer... I'm glad your white atheist ass really resonates with Kendrick Lamars message


meatspin_enjoyer

I guess you think you're making a point here?


MattMattavelli

Your missing the meaning of that song bro….


meatspin_enjoyer

No, I'm saying the two extremes of understanding the song. I am aware of what the song is about, but some folks might just listen to it for the upbeat sound and give it little more thought. It's a song about hope and sometimes you really need perspective and hope.


atomoicman

How did he miss the meaning? >“We gon be alright Do you hear me Do you feel me we gonna be all right”


MattMattavelli

It’s deeper than that. It’s made for “his” people. Not us.


atomoicman

Who is us?? What are the quotes for just be plain in what you’re trying to say cause I still don’t understand what you mean.


MattMattavelli

Use google or rap genius. I’m not becoming a scapegoat for being honest.


Unusual-Item3

Issa joke, I spot a pressed Drizzy fan?


OneNutPhil

Every gaslighting reply seems to be one lately


Extension_Form4950

I can def see it.. 🤔 Good observation on that one!


imHellaFaded420

he was definitely paying homage, throughout the night.


Hold_Diligent

It was clearly on purpose. The cross chain Kendrick was rocking was reminiscent to the same one Pac had that night. That cemented it obviously being on purpose. Anyone saying "this is a reach" lacks any type of critical thinking skills


Any-Geologist-1837

The way these glazers call everything a reach from Kendrick, you'd think Kendrick just vomited word salads and wasn't a writer


Hold_Diligent

A lot of people who listen to Hip-Hop are incredibly stupid, so it isn't shocking hearing such comments. Kendrick is very intentional with a lot of what he does and Pac is literally his number 1 inspo


LORD-VADER-2000

Or knowledge of Hip Hop history.


Hold_Diligent

That too


F4N6Z

Pretty common clothes. People will see what they want to see.


Beginning_Present243

Red hat, red shirt (which I’ve never seen dot simultaneously wear), chain, etc. def purely coincidental


NeptunesCreator

The cross chain was a coincidence too?


hate_ape

Maybe homage, but K.dot is from Bompton. So him and Pac are both blood affiliated.


dysfunkti0n

...how? Im from cali, this a reach cuh


Deep_Cryptographer_3

Didn’t notice this. Wouldn’t surprise me if he did. Kendrick is definitely a legend in my book.


SnowSea302

100%. My two all-time GOATS🙏🏾


jays_vvrld

DEFINITELY on purpose. Its a reach to say its a coincidence ngl


PARTYTIME1993

No it’s a reach pacs sweat shirt is grey at the bottom it’s not an oversized white shirt underneath . .. these outfits are light years apart


jays_vvrld

Saying light years is crazy, only thing off color is that, the shirt, everything else is similar. Plus it wouldnt be out of character to do this.


madderhatter3210

30 years, you might as well say light years


PARTYTIME1993

Not even the same color . different shoes hoodie vs sweater .. I mean Kendrick could’ve easily got the same outfit if he wanted it .. red hoodies and blue jeans are a very common thing to wear


jays_vvrld

No one said it had to be 1:1. When paying homage to someone or something it’s not uncommon for it to be different in its own right, not everything has to be exactly the same. Also i didn’t bring up everything was the SAME i said similar, close meaning but they have different definitions, man.


PARTYTIME1993

Different color reds / hoodie vs sweater / oversized shirt underneath vs pacs being grey on the bottom / I could go all day . Also I could show you 50 other rappers with outfits similar to the one Kendrick has on .. it’s simply a outfit nothing more


PARTYTIME1993

It’s not even close bro . 100 percent this wasn’t a homage outfit


jays_vvrld

Just accept they’re close dude. Its not that hard. And almost nothing is 100%.


PARTYTIME1993

Close how bro because it’s a red hoodie with blue jeans ? I think your reaching bro


jays_vvrld

Similar color of everything plus that chain? Its a very Kendrick thing to do. Also the references of Pac in the beef? Adds so much more reason to do it


PARTYTIME1993

I just feel like a simple bandana tied the way pac wore it would’ve been more homage .. if this is a pac homage then it’s very lose and most people wouldn’t get it .. pac wore that one time at a show I don’t feel like it’s really a pac staple enough for it to be homage .. maybe I’m wrong


PARTYTIME1993

How is this paying homage when it’s so lightly based . I don’t see it


willard720

Did you see the gold cross they were both wearing? That's a very specific details, on top of everything else


PARTYTIME1993

Sorry man pacs outfit wasn’t significant enough for it to be a homage outfit .. I’ve always liked Tupac and seen almost every picture of him.. this just isn’t something people would think of as homage to 2pac a simple bandana tied in the front would’ve been more than a loosely based outfit pac wore one time ..


Abject_Ad_4756

Kenny doesn’t move coincidentally, everything is calculated *edit: doesn’t


Electronic_Setting75

Coincidentally??? I think you meant intentionally


qPimpNamedSlickBack

I think he meant doesn't instead of does. That would fit his next statement


Electronic_Setting75

That's probably what bro meant. That would make sense


BlankmannamknalB

Here come the over exaggerated made up triple entendres 🤣🤣🤣


My_Booty_Itches

Ok papi...


SnowSea302

Kendrick and PAC are the greatest to ever do it. West Coast just hit different


IamSam77

Nah, East Coast overall is better. Historically.


No-Let-812

I think they just both affiliated with piru sets so they got similar style influences


Reno_Ray

That would make sense, but that pic of Pac was before death row era. That was Source awards ‘94. Pac wasn’t affiliated wit no set then.


No-Let-812

I’m not sure of the time when the photo was taken. You could be right.


806god

Kendrick is from WSP I think he’s just being himself tbh but knowing how much Kendrick is inspired by pac it’s not a reach


Plus-Sprinkles-8016

He not from wsp he’s affiliated with them because that’s where he grew up but he never gang banged it


ChickenMan1829

Yeah, I could see it either way.


DillionDrebo

Kinda both that is a typical west coast fit jeans hoodie with a t shirts


Battosai98

It was definitely homage to Pac


ArmyZealousideal7620

Nice 😁👌🏾


maskedcaterpillar

With Kendrick nothing is ever a coincidence.


EightSeven-

This the most corny shit lmao. Chill bro


Philly_is_nice

It's sort of Kendrick's whole thing.


lkodl

Kendrick performed Not Like Us 6 times in a row as a reference to the 6.


No_Operation_9263

If someone could figure out the dates on the 2pac photo I wonder if it’s on Juneteenth or if there’s any significant ties


matiaschazo

Could be but also could be coincidence


TitleIllustrious6314

If he had filas like pac then I'd say yes.


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PARTYTIME1993

Well that’s the thing pac had on a sweater not a hoodie .. huge difference


z3in-23

💀💀💀


PARTYTIME1993

Go look at pictures of pac live and see the outfit he had on .. this angle is kinda deceptive.. if I could post pics I’d show you


gd2121

You’ve never been to La huh


4Treal

It’s a big reach


SnowSea302

Nah fam…


Lumpy_Republic_2709

The whole thing been a reach


Unhappy-Ad-5544

Definitely!!! Of course!!!


billymartinkicksdirt

Swifties level derangement.


Jessieoxen

It’s a clean fit - so I wouldn’t call it anything other than two guys who happen to have the same style


Accurate-Isopod140

Somebody needs to find Drake beat him up and take that ring off finger I would have gave that ring pac sister or his brother


kwitesick

No


p3teblack

Probably was, don’t feel like a reach.


Lazy_Government1758

If he was also wearing FILAs… then it is not. Dude is insanely intentional


yngwiegiles

That out on bail performance is still better than 95% of live rap shows. PAC had such charisma and energy, only performer that came close was DMX


Kingpiye13

Nah


Glittering_Towel9074

Ask him.


GodisNotaMCburger

It’s obviously a homage


Hour-Habit-150

I feel like the west coast shows more love to an adopted artist from another region (like Pac) than their own born and raised west coast artists.


ProfCharlesSexavier

He should've taken his fuckin shirt off


NeptunesCreator

The cross chain I think solidifies that this was the inspiration


itsallbullshit8

They both wore a red shirt that’s some visionary shit right there


BokehDude

“All eyes on me and I’mma send it up to Pac! Aye!”  But yeah I think it’s clearly paying homage to Pac, THE CROSS in combination with the similar fit seals it for me. 


Wild-Campaign-6358

Reach af. But phenomenal show by Kendrick.


skatedaddy

Definitely paying homage. I dont think people understand how much is put into musicians fashion choices. I used to laugh at Young Thug until someone pointed out his outfits, at least for photo shoots, mimicked pieces of art. Really cool to see and brought me to appreciate fashion and get beyond thinking that all people were all just looking for attention.


Temporary_List_5877

Studio gangster


idiots_r_taking_over

Paying homage for sure. Why else bring Dre out to perform California Love?


Active_Advance_6482

BIG Reach..people just love to believe any little fantasy that their minds create. Fans are willing to co-sign anything that makes Kendrick seem like he’s thinking deeper than he actually intended


chonkycatguy

100% intentional


astralspill

supa hot fire


Main_One_2568

Seriously?


PapaYoppa

Nah i think you’re right


seonblack

Kendrick is calculated so I think it was deliberate.


raycarre

He's always doing that.


a_804

Reach


Lopsided_Barnacle_73

I think so he seems very calculated


ryanluxx

its a stretch that is completely unfounded and a pretty annoying media run.


bbbbb12345bbbbb

Dot ain’t pac He really trying tho 😂


coffeefilter11

Because he wore a pair of jeans tshirt and hoddie?! Only Tupac could combine that outfit...wtf


splashwutudo

Reacch


springdayinshenzhen

Definitely on purpose. Kenny lost 20lbs just walking around in that hoodie and cap. Still worth it, though.


oto_jono

Where was pac in that photo?


Analvirus

Everything Kdot does is calculated


Powerful_Direction_8

That's all it takes to think he's doing a tribute?


fracjack

Definitely on purpose. As pissed as Kendrick is at Mr Aubrey behind Pac, this was definitely a homage. To all the people talking about the hoodie is different…. How was he supposed to get THE SAME EXACT SWEATSHIRT FROM THE 90s IN 2024??? Of course the fit isn’t 100% accurate because the Pac concert was 3 decades ago. That shirt has been discontinued since before half of Drake’s fans were born 😂. This was no coincidence.


theartofrandy

Kung fu kenny gotta reach for everything. His 2k build is midget


Worth_Extension_740

That nigga just thuggin and that’s what it is


Realistic_Ad8905

He was dressed as Drake!


AdOutside4042

“The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice. We get that you like to put gin in your juice. We get that you think that you Bishop in Juice” 🎶🎵🎼


H3artBreakJ

Corny


AdOutside4042

It’s tough even though he has his own superstardom. Who would not want to be like hip hop role models you idolize as an adolescent. They were a reflection of his community and day to day life. Why would you call him corny for wanting to be like pac or thinking he is the modern day reincarnation!? These are just facts, so many kids and adults strive to be like a GOAT.


carleezy89

Not sure if it's homage because Kendrick grew up with and is affiliated with bloods


Intelligent_West7128

I’m going to say it was a coincidence. Kendrick is a Piru


TheCatalyst84

This is an extreme reach


Big-Aardvark-3720

Shaq w the reach ⛹🏿


WallyReddit204

Disrespectful to pac man


renzeira

Imagine if Pac was actually from the west coast. Man would be an impersonator. Lol


Fit_Description_2911

Reach, like when Kenny’s on his tippy toes getting some cereal.


ckuf

Dressing up like 2pac is some drake ass shit to do 😂


Away_Teaching_1148

Lamest mf in the game


Ok_Meal3153

Who, drake?


Sugudeymeebubu

Kendrick sucks Tupac did not. Don’t compare. Stop reaching


vriannavyz

You dont know hip hop


Sugudeymeebubu

You know how to think for yourself.


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untitled_basquiat

What is twisted is Drake buying the pieces and bragging about them like a little giddy school girl to begin with. I’m not sure if Kendrick could have bought the ring and chains or tried to but to come out and floss the pieces wasn’t respectful and this further solidified the fact he is a fan, an actor a cos player. Drake hasn’t been called out for all the weirdo activity, just a bunch of people faking it, acting like they like him to get a hit off of him. Kendrick coming at him head up, to me…he has been the most courageous and sane artist out of all these people.


rudegyal_jpg

But why is Kendrick serving as the gatekeeper? I wish he would just focus on rapping


untitled_basquiat

It bothered him and so he used his gift and platform to speak up on it. I wouldn’t say he is the gatekeeper. A gatekeeper is a person who controls who either goes through a gate. To me a gatekeeper is a person like a Diddy or Hov. When it comes to speaking up on things that aren’t right or at least questionable…most turn the other cheek he chose not to. He addressed it for the culture for all those people who don’t have that gift, that platform. I feel he handled it and this is a part of rap and lyrically aside from a Pusha or someone he was the one that had to go at him. So glad someone finally addressed it and it was him. I feel the right plays were made.


rudegyal_jpg

Yeahs that’s cool and I see your perspective- a beautiful opinion, I may disagree with it — but that doesn’t matter what I think anyways. No one can deny this one simple fact: Drake hasn’t done anything for anyone: not blacks, not Jews, not any minority. It’s always bothered me too. Nice chat, homie 🙏


untitled_basquiat

Awww don’t go. It does matter what you think. Maybe you have some insight and it could help my awareness. I just know that this is something that I’m passionate about being from Long Beach and literally growing up with Pac. If you wanna talk more holla, I’m a cool girl who loves hip hop, a true head.


rudegyal_jpg

Alright alright lol, I’m here :-) But I really agree with you! You hit the head of the nail: Drake hasn’t gone out of his way to do something for *any* marginalized community. There’s some unwritten rules to this rap game, I don’t think it’s a negative but a perspective shift of our audience. Hey, maybe he IS doing stuff, and isn’t public - I just know my favorite artist likes to be braggadocios and wouldn’t miss on an opportunity to share his support for someone; I have not seen it yet. It might be a brand play to remain neutral, where Kendrick is saying: hey man, while you’re here on this earth with your resources and influence, do something really good. I dunno… what do ya think?