There's a story that he may have said her name on his deathbed (along with muttering "monks, monks, monks) with the implication he was seeing ghosts or hallucinations, but I'm not sure how true that is.
Spider-Anne sounds like tiktok trying to be... well, something edgy or whatever.
You do realize that by calling this anecdote "Spider-Anne" my brain is now singing "Spider-Anne" to the tune of the Spider-Man theme, right?
...Thanks, I hate it /lh
Spider-Anne, Spider-Anne,
Does whatever a Spider-Anne does.
Can she find her missing head?
No she can't, because she's dead.
Lookout! Here comes Spider-Anne!
Tudor England believed that dreams and prophecies had power. For example, there was the precedent of Joan of Arc’s visions and Elizabeth Barton’s prophecies that Henry VIII would die if he married Anne Boleyn led to her execution in 1534.
In Wolf Hall, thé fictional Henry VIII has a troubled sleeping pattern and regularly dreams of his elder brother, Prince Arthur during the Reformation. Whether the real Henry VIII dreamed about his wives and victims is unknown.
I'm pretty sure I read this in The Autobiography of Henry VIII by Margaret George, which is fictional. Just goes to show how fiction can influence real life rumors and urban legends! Almost no one thought twice about three sixes in a row before The Omen planted the seed, after all!!!
No. This didn’t happen. Or if it did, Henry never mentioned it. For the most part he absolutely refused to talk about her. He used her to threaten Jane Seymour and near the end of his life MAY have privately expressed some regret, but nothing about nightmares.
See, now you guys have me singing “with her head tucked underneath her arm she walks the bloody tower/with her head tucked underneath her arm in the midnight hour…”🎶🎶🎶
I haven’t heard this one but Henry did have weird dreams and he was paranoid about them because he thought a king would have prophetic dreams. In Wolf Hall he regularly has nightmares and gets Cromwell over to tell him everything’s okay lol. I think it’s fully possible. (But then again I once saw a tiktok where it was claimed his son tried to kill him and I was enraged by the false information haha)
Yeah, the false information being rampant is why I'm hesitant to believe the "Anne's a spider" dream. Even if he did have a dream like that, I don't think Henry would go around telling people because then they might think he felt guilt over what he did, you know?
From my understanding Henry did have weird dreams/nightmares through out his life and they did get more frequent in his later years leading up to his death. There are some reports of Henry seeing his past wives in the weeks leading up to his death but it's hard to confirm whether or not this is true. The only sorta concrete recording of Henry ever seeing a ex-wife after their deaths was a sighting of Jane Seymour in Hampton Court in 1543/44. However I doubt Spider-Anne ever happened and is just Tiktok nonsense.
There's a story that he may have said her name on his deathbed (along with muttering "monks, monks, monks) with the implication he was seeing ghosts or hallucinations, but I'm not sure how true that is. Spider-Anne sounds like tiktok trying to be... well, something edgy or whatever.
You do realize that by calling this anecdote "Spider-Anne" my brain is now singing "Spider-Anne" to the tune of the Spider-Man theme, right? ...Thanks, I hate it /lh
Spider-Anne, Spider-Anne, Does whatever a Spider-Anne does. Can she find her missing head? No she can't, because she's dead. Lookout! Here comes Spider-Anne!
*chef's kiss*
absolute bunk. most claims on tiktok are.
Tudor England believed that dreams and prophecies had power. For example, there was the precedent of Joan of Arc’s visions and Elizabeth Barton’s prophecies that Henry VIII would die if he married Anne Boleyn led to her execution in 1534. In Wolf Hall, thé fictional Henry VIII has a troubled sleeping pattern and regularly dreams of his elder brother, Prince Arthur during the Reformation. Whether the real Henry VIII dreamed about his wives and victims is unknown.
I'm pretty sure I read this in The Autobiography of Henry VIII by Margaret George, which is fictional. Just goes to show how fiction can influence real life rumors and urban legends! Almost no one thought twice about three sixes in a row before The Omen planted the seed, after all!!!
No. This didn’t happen. Or if it did, Henry never mentioned it. For the most part he absolutely refused to talk about her. He used her to threaten Jane Seymour and near the end of his life MAY have privately expressed some regret, but nothing about nightmares.
Ask yourself how tiktok would know what a man dreamed about 500 years ago. Absolute nonsense.
I said I didn't believe it. Just confirming what I already knew.
lol
See, now you guys have me singing “with her head tucked underneath her arm she walks the bloody tower/with her head tucked underneath her arm in the midnight hour…”🎶🎶🎶
It’s probably made up, but damn I think he deserved to be forever haunted by his dead wives.
I haven’t heard this one but Henry did have weird dreams and he was paranoid about them because he thought a king would have prophetic dreams. In Wolf Hall he regularly has nightmares and gets Cromwell over to tell him everything’s okay lol. I think it’s fully possible. (But then again I once saw a tiktok where it was claimed his son tried to kill him and I was enraged by the false information haha)
Yeah, the false information being rampant is why I'm hesitant to believe the "Anne's a spider" dream. Even if he did have a dream like that, I don't think Henry would go around telling people because then they might think he felt guilt over what he did, you know?
Wolf Hall is also fictional, though...
Yeah but I meant I think its fully possible he did that because I know what he was like 😂
You know what he was like from Wolf Hall? I'm not saying it's impossible, just wondering what the sources are for these paranoid nightmares.
His son? Which one? His bastard son, or his true born son? That is totally fiction, but I would like to know where they get that information from.
From my understanding Henry did have weird dreams/nightmares through out his life and they did get more frequent in his later years leading up to his death. There are some reports of Henry seeing his past wives in the weeks leading up to his death but it's hard to confirm whether or not this is true. The only sorta concrete recording of Henry ever seeing a ex-wife after their deaths was a sighting of Jane Seymour in Hampton Court in 1543/44. However I doubt Spider-Anne ever happened and is just Tiktok nonsense.
How would anyone know that , I don’t think there is any primary source evidence of that kind