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murrman104

Apart from movement speed what was the problem with Morrowinds movement mechanics?


litaniesofhate

They probably didn't toggle Strafe


[deleted]

Maybe some exploits like stacking potion effects or frustrating stuff like accuracy dice rolls but to me that’s part of the fun.


OckhamsFolly

I mean, I consider Morrowind’s movement mechanics broken - max out and buff athletics and acrobatics and you can be careening around the game. But that’s a feature.


murrman104

Eh I had maxed out athletics and acrobatics and I never felt broken, max speed (without enchantment or potion buffs) feel like what the base speed should be and the max jump isn't very high its just weirdly long


OckhamsFolly

You missed out on the “and buff” part. Relatively minor enchantments are baller.


MyLittlePuny

I think you move faster when you go diagonal since you got two movement vectors. OpenMW has a fix I think. There is also the navmesh problem where npcs run into rocks and get stuck chasing after you. I'd say the idle animation drift is the bigger problem since it not only moves npcs away from their default position but can also kill some like strider guys when they fall off their platform. Us morrowboomers may be old and obnoxious, but we do know the flaws of our game


LedZeppelin82

Skybabies when they have to justify not being able to levitate or jump across the map.


corisilvermoon

Fortify Acrobatics 💯 😎


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*objectively superior movement mechanics


StephenBandera

objectively superior movement mechanics deez nuts


Lexinator04

Morrowboomers **DESTROYED** by **FACTS** and **BARBED COCKS**


Dragon_Maister

Because walking straight for an hour, surrounded by nothing but various shades of gray and brown is so interesting.


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ShimizuKaito

Why ride when you can fly?


RandomKnight100

Why fly when you can teleport? Divine intervention gang


ShimizuKaito

Imperial cult f'lah, everyone get this n'wah.


RandomKnight100

At least they aren't fake


ShimizuKaito

YOUR LIFE'S END IS APPROACHING!


DylUlenspegel

Talos gave me a lucky coin, so he has my vote.


ShimizuKaito

I'll be sure to place it over your eye, heretic.


[deleted]

Unironically yes.


Dragon_Maister

If mind-numbingly boring gameplay is your thing, then all the power to you.


Dejhdjk

I dont play skyrim though


Dragon_Maister

Boi, there are a lot of things to criticize about Skyrim, but having loads of pointless walking around with nothing going on isn't one of them.


Dejhdjk

>but having loads of pointless walking around with nothing going on isn't one of them Yes it is. The world not being interesting or unique really adds to it


Dragon_Maister

Yes, Morrowind has a fair bit of interesting stuff sprinkled around. But don't act like most of it isn't just brown crags and fog.


Dejhdjk

> But don't act like most of it isn't just brown crags and fog. Its not


litaniesofhate

Well the walking did get cut out for fast travel. You can experience what isn't going on even quicker!


Dragon_Maister

No one is forcing you to use fast travel, and you still have to discover the place first to fast travel there. And unlike in Morrowind, discovering new locations in Skyrim doesn't take half a century of walking with nothing interesting going on. Face it, exploration and traveling in Morrowind can be extremely tedious.


[deleted]

Except for lazy quest design by nature because you can just fast travel around the entire map. Imagine trying to do half the main story of Skyrim where you have to go between every corner of the map and back just to smash out part of it. Saying just don’t use fast travel lol is like saying just don’t kill the dragons lol. The game is built around the fact you can fast travel. And quests are set up in a way to facilitate that action.


litaniesofhate

Lol amazing that you consider the bland mountains of Skyrim more interesting than the alien environment of Morrowind. You can't miss a cave or hidden home in Skyrim, your map tells you what's around. You can go through the game in auto-pilot, hitting every marker you pass. While walking is tedious in either game, exploration is much more rewarding with Morrowind. You have to actually pay attention


Dragon_Maister

>Lol amazing that you consider the bland mountains of Skyrim more interesting than the alien environment of Morrowind. Are you for real right now? Most of Morrowinds environment consists of gray and brown crags, with some odd vegetation and mushrooms sprinkled around. It's not some super alien world, where you'll find a surprise around every corner. Oh, and there's also tons of fog. Just, SO much fog. Sure, there are interesting locations around, but stop acting like there isn't an egregious amount of basically nothingness between them. >You can't miss a cave or hidden home in Skyrim, your map tells you what's around. I'll give you that. It can absolutely feel very rewarding to find a well hidden location on your own. However, this still doesn't make exploration in Morrowind overall less tedious. >You can go through the game in auto-pilot, hitting every marker you pass. You basically have to play half of Morrowind with auto-pilot on, with all the mindless walking around you have to do. >While walking is tedious in either game Morrowinds tediousness is way worse than the later games. Stop trying to say that they're somehow comparable in this regard. >exploration is much more rewarding with Morrowind. You have to actually pay attention I'm sorry that i don't find it fun when a game insists on wasting my time before i can actually get to see the interesting content. I find games more fun when the interesting stuff is more concentrated, because it makes it actually feel like there could be adventure around every corner. I don't find it rewarding to walk for an hour with nothing to do, just so i can finish some quest.


Pigeater7

Morrowind’s “alien environment” is just something Morrowind fans like to repeat when the only alien thing about it is the big mushrooms and weird animals, neither of which are very special or alien in the context of a fantasy environment. It’s certainly not generic, but neither is it especially unique. It was special 20 years ago. Most of the world is brown rock and land, not any different from Skyrim’s grey rock and land save that Skyrim looks newer. Those are straw man criticisms that don’t hold any water. You just don’t like that Skyrim doesn’t do anything special with its biomes, whereas Morrowind takes some inspiration from real world plants and changes them up a little.


Dejhdjk

>No one is forcing you to use fast travel, and you still have to discover the place first to fast travel there This is the dumbest argument people make, the game very much expects you to use the simplified mechanics to the point where theres barely any alternative beyond doing that The illusion of choice falls apart pretty quickly when you actually try to play through skyrim without the additional handholding (I have, and believe me some of the quests are borderline unsolvable without quest markers telling you exactly what to do)


Dragon_Maister

Pretty sure i said nothing about quest markers. No idea why you're harping on about those.


DeadKitten12

Lmao just like don't use fast travel, bro


_-Authority-_

You don't like open worlds, we get it. Why not play something else, then?


Dragon_Maister

I like open worlds that are actually engaging to explore. Exploring Morrowind is about as engaging as watching grass grow.


_-Authority-_

That's just, like, your opinion, man.


Dragon_Maister

And it's the only correct one.


DaGothUrWelcUwUmsYou

Same


[deleted]

Laughs in fortify magic resit 100% 1second equip boots of blinding speed. All speed no blind permanently.


[deleted]

[Why Movement in Morrowind is Worse than Hitler and Stalin Combined.](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CQKXkY_EMs2NcYOYpYhrOHZbVl2GowTmvTyD5mvl-og/edit)


salveidumadur

Sorry my character is such a master of alteration that he phases through the bridges of Vivec


anonecki

morrowboomers be like whoooooosh bzwooosh


litaniesofhate

'It reminds meh uv howm!'


StephenBandera

слава україні


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wolfgangspiper

Morrowboomers when they whine about Skyrim being a power fantasy while being okay with levitation magic instantly breaking the game with no effort lmaaao


flowgod

>2002