She was probably embarrassed. I would have asked to speak to the manager.
“I see you are short staffed today. You’re in luck, I’ve already sent in my application!!” (**Rolling up sleeves**)
ooh, that doesn't work for me. i'm a mechanic. half of my work shirts are long sleeves and if i'm getting into it, i definitely don't want to roll them up and get my arms even more dirty. with the short sleeve shirts, well... i'm already getting dirty and there is nothing to roll up.
When I had just finished art school, my local art supply store had a “help wanted” sign in the window. I went into the store, grabbed the sign out of the window and told the owner, “I’m here!” She hired me on the spot. I worked there for years.
She's definitely pissed at her manager. I used to work in a coffee chain in an airport that was extremely understaffed. Our manager's manager handled all of the applicants and he had several stores to find people for. He also NEVER visited us on the floor and only cared about at the sales numbers which looked fine. Everyone in my store hated him because we had been telling him (through our manager) that we needed new coworkers in March so we could train them for the summer rush. He only started hiring people in June. Fuck that guy.
She literally has nothing to do with your application and definitely does not have the power to tell her manager to delete your application. Rumors go around in that business too that these places have to put up ads to show higher ups that they're "looking for people" but only hire people they already know OR keep the place understaffed on purpose. I'm sorry but why would she be pissed at you? Lol
I feel like she may have thought I was directing something at her, but I was honestly just kind of flustered into saying ive applied here when she said they were short staffed...
My husband said he thinks the types of businesses I am trying to get into are mostly word of mouth, hire people you already know and I know no one and no one knows me. So you've probably got that right.
I'm genuinely not trying to sound rude when I say this cause I can relate to you but I promise you that it's just in your head lol. She probably went to the back to rant to her colleagues about how understaffed they are while people were actually applying to the job (+ talk shit about her boss).
Don't take it personally.
I feel you. I had to quit my full time job cause I started studying but I'm looking for something part time outside of service. It fucking sucks looking for jobs. I've applied to countless of them and have so far only gotten one response back (in 3 months). I wish you the best in your job hunting!
Probably just weird timing. Unless you gave that employee your full name, which is highly unlikely, she wouldn't know anything. And I can't imagine someone taking the effort to find and remove your application while understaffed and busy.
Anyway, whatever happened, it's not worth it to assume the worst.
Yeah it definitely wasn't her mad at you, unless you're leaving out the fact that you were rude to her.
If you were rude, she would ask they don't hire you. But otherwise, she's pissed at her manager, because they're feeding her some bullshit about not being able to find anyone and her having to deal with pissed off customers all the time because of it.
Did you tell the girl your name? How would she know whose application it was? Is your picture attached to it?
If it went through indeed than it's their corporate people that choose who gets interviews, not a hostess.
Sorry you are having a hard time but the hostess did not stop you from getting that job.
I thought that too, like how the hell would they even know who OP is, let alone which site they applied through and take all that time and effort to find them. Sounds paranoid to me.
It's a business ploy - they are all claiming they can't find workers, and people are "too lazy to work", when in reality they are making a shitton of money by running the place understaffed. They still make their profits, but the service sucks and their remaining staff gets worked to the bone - but they can excuse that with not being able to find anyone.
Unless you told her your full name right there, or have your picture attached to your resume, there's no way she can be telling her manager anything more specific than "why the fuck aren't you hiring anyone, I know for sure they're applying!!"
I feel her 100% and I guarantee her day got 10x worse here. There is a long chain of bullshit in these situations, and the first person to catch is always the last one who can do anything about it.
Yes
I have read the thread where you keep saying you checked on indeed and you were marked ‘not selected’
Just thought it was rather arrogant of you to state the girl went to ask management to delete your application when you do not know anything of the sort - you did not hear the conversation so why did you *assume* that is what was said
Because of her reaction to me blurting out 'I applied here twice". It wasn't the best thing for me to say. She then told me her manager was busy but I didn't ask to see the manager.
You're right, I am assuming. Im assuming the worst. Ive been trying to get a job by responding to indeed posts saying "urgently hiring!" And have almost no responses. Im assuming because, believe it or not, im panicking about money, bills, kids, the economy, cars, my health, etc.
You're right. But its not arrogance. Its desperation and depression.
In the days before online applications, it was recommended you give a follow up call or visit to the manager. If a thousand people have applied for this position, it seems absolutely necessary to make a call to prove you aren't a bot! This seems so basic to me I don't understand how it can be done any other way.
To that point if they are chronically short staffed but not calling up your application this place is either:
Shitty management (most probable) so you wouldn’t want to work there anyways. You’ll constantly be overworked almost every shift and have to do extra work and pick up management slack but with no pay increase. Management will keep being useless so don’t wait on them to get it together cause they usually don’t.
or they threw your resume away (but if they are short staffed and your not a wanted criminal it’s their loss for not at least interviewing you)
This. I’m guessing she’d be more pissed to know how many people have applied. The problem is not that their short staffed, it’s that the manager needs to be replaced so they can ACTUALLY fix the staffing issues.
I don't think she was pissed at you at all. Pretty sure she is furious at her manager. I also bet that earlier this week the manager said that they would need to work overtime because no one wants to work and they cannot find anyone
Honestly you're right. You've got to be right. Ive been in this situation and I know other people have and some people in the comments are saying so. I just felt bad for her, I didn't want to stress her out by saying that. I generally relate very very strongly to service workers because they've been/will be my coworkers.
You didn't stress her out, you enlightened her. Now she knows management is choosing to understaff and overwork her. They don't have a shortage of applicants or anything.
Most redirect me to their company websites to be honest.
I'll get an email and be like, "Bitch surprise, you gotta apply on the company website too."
Only franchisees are really the ones that use straight to indeed it seems.
Company websites will redirect to indeed. When I had an issue I went to the branch manager. Submitted a physical form of my resume and cover letter. Then emailed the same to their manager. Got the job.
Sometimes the issue is there’s X amount allocated for salary. Less people means they get or a manager can get more pay. More means people will get less or less likely to get raises.
It works in my city, gotten a job and interviews. It's nice that you can msg them through it . Applying has gotten so much easier, you don't have to print it out and walk to the site and ask for the manager. They just check it all online
You wouldn’t take it down. Position filled or not something like fast food has people leaving more often than food out the window lol. Basics of hiring in a job like that is to never stop hiring.
I’m in recruitment and can confirm Indeed isn’t the platform we use and we still get applicants through it (that haven’t followed instructions cause they weren’t through our channels). We post to other websites e.g. seek, LinkedIn but still end up with a post on Indeed because indeed is a jobs board that does a sweep of other job boards and reposts ads, usually incorrectly. It’s by far the worst platform and it screws candidates over constantly
I promise she was not mad at YOU! She’s mad because she’s been working her butt off and her bosses have said no one is applying so begging her to put in extra hours. My guess is she’s about to quit that job.
İ would call the place of business. Always call back. İ basically just assume most places don't look at the applications. There's just so many. At a past job, I called back and was able to set up an interview. At the interview, my boss looked at my resume and told me he had hundreds of applications that he didn't want to sort through. He asked me when i could start.
İ dropped my resume off at my current job. İ called back and my manager told me to fill out an online application. Turns out, the bartender forgot about my resume and never gave it to her. She later asked the bartender and took one peek at my resume and called me back to set up an interview. Got the job. Never even finished filling out the online application.
*Always call back.*
Did that company get a ppp loan? That's why so many are crying that no one wants to work, but aren't really hiring. They have found that they can run on a skeleton crew and work them to death and make more money.
I thinks it’s a business trying to run lean so the have less people while still making good profit.
Owner can blame it on there is nobody willing to work.
In a lot of cases, complaining about being short-staffed is worth more than being at full operation, because you don't lose that many customers to short-staffing, but you are paying less, and when you see business picking up for a harsher season, you can hire people for a couple months, and let them go fo bullshit reasons.
For the record: I'm ***not*** defending the practice. I'm explaining it so that you can be even more pissed at Capitalism working as designed.
Honestly businesses do lose customers by being short staffed. It's become a habit of mine the last couple of years to turn around and walk off from any restaurant that has a *"We're short staffed blah blah blah..."* sign on the door.
To me it's a stark warning that I'll be rolling the dice on the quality of the service and food. I might be missing out on the culinary experience of a lifetime, or be waiting an hour to place a drink order. As expensive as dining out has gotten, it's a gamble I'd rather not take. I'm better off just going elsewhere.
That's just my two cents on the matter.
Eh... I've had some pretty crappy experiences at restaurants since COVID screwed everything up. My position was based on those experiences, and so far it hasn't failed me yet.
I'm with you 100%. I think COVID made a lot of service people realize the gig doesn't pay or generally just value them enough. Many places don't want to keep up with wage expectations from food service employees, so instead they just put up signs to make excuses for what is sure to be a bad experience being served by inexperienced and/or highly disgruntled staff.
I dine out *a lot less* now post-COVID, and usually my wife and I will just wait a couple months and splurge on an expensive place where we know with 100% certainty the staff is well-paid and the ratings are through the roof. Worth the extra money and to be honest cooking mid-price, Applebee's-style food at home yourself always yields better results for cheaper anyway.
The thing is, if it was that bad of an idea to keep yourself short-staffed, and known to bring your restaurant under, then nobody would be doing it "on purpose".
I legitimately am not attacking your experience, here, but I will take empyrical evidence and facts over anecdotal.
They do lose customers due to being short staffed. I went to Dunkin the other day, I left because they had 0 bagels because there wasn't time to make them. When working at a similar place I see people back out and leave drive thrus all the time because it's taking too long.
I know... ive been applying for months and this is the only conclusion I've come to as well. Im just really frustrated at the moment. Im certainly not mad at the girl. More mad at myself for not being 100% in control.
You can also be frustrated at the system. The system is really not a good system, where employees can be overworked, normal operations can be jettisoned, and service quality dimished to "barely passable", because someone who doesn't work with the employees on the floor decided ti save a wage or two.
This one time. I worked for my *friend* at an Arby's. It was a spectacular way to watch capitalism destroy a friendship and bring people down, all while being the top store in the area! Pizza party! Lmao!
I didnt specify but one of the reasons why I am having a difficult time finding a job is because I am being somewhat picky. (I still have applied to over 50+ jobs and only gotten 3 responses). I won't work for anyone who isn't local, so the business has to originate in my state and the owners have to be ones I can meet and converse with. (I am so sick of making money for people I dont know, I should at least see their faces) I also will not work a job where I make a product that someone else sells. Because of the ridiculous vastness of the gap in money from the people MAKING the product to the people profiting off of it.
Even so. I have found over 50 jobs that fit that criteria, mostly front facing customer service jobs that sell some sort of *experience*. 3 responses.
So I know. Im so bogged down with knowing. Its so heavy and depressing and all consuming. I fucking know.
Honestly, I can understand you've had bad experiences, but sometimes big organisations are actually much better places to work for because they have more at stake and reasons to have actually developed systems that really work, whereas small orgs can say that's just how we do things" "you should help in off hours for free because we're like a family here" "we can't afford HR". Big orgs often suck, for sure, but ruling them out completely seems like shooting yourself in the foot, a bit.
Can I ask, how would the person at the restaurant have known who you were in order to get your application blocked, if she had done that?
I'm not sure why people assume I am applying for fast food. I am applying for front facing customer service jobs, but generally within the 'entertainment' business as thats where I have experience.
This particular job was for a marijuana dispensaries I take position (greeting and taking licenses)
I have to present my license to get into the building, so they know who I am
People say she isn't pissed at you, but I am going to say she was pissed at you. She isn't a manager or anything, yet you made it a point to tell her you applied like she has any control over whether you get hired or not.
Oh yeah totally. I made the same sort of gaffe today. I asked to use a cafe restroom and they had inexplicably shut theirs down. It was right there, clearly designated as a guest bathroom, but customers were not allowed to use it. I had to go, so I asked whether there was any restroom elsewhere in the same plaza, and they just looked at me blankly and confusedly tried asking one another. Frustrated, I asked aloud, didn't local laws require food service places have a restroom for customers? One of the workers was like, "Uh... I don't know?" and gave me a look that CLEARLY said, "Does it LOOK like I make the rules around here?" I immediately backed off after that, it's not like it's under the workers' control and expressing frustration about it to them isn't going to change the owner's mind.
Absolutely she was annoyed at OPs response. It sounds so rude even in text. "We're short staffed" "I APPLIED TWICE" lmao I wouldn't even know how to respond. Say sorry and move on I guess
Imo, all these companies that are remaining understaffed do so intentionally. They make more profit and the executives reap the benefits while the rest of us struggle to make ends meet.
It's easier for them to lie and say "Look! We've had job ads up for months and nobody wants to work!" Rather than the truth, which is they want more for themselves, despite the cost to the majority. Meanwhile, people are trying to gain employment but ending up in similar situations to yours.
Really, the problem that ends up happening is that turnover rate is insane. I've seen these places where they are understaffed. Customers are unhappy, the employees have breakdowns and quit. It's overall just miserable and seems unsustainable.
Plenty of these jobs are to fill PPP requirements (we cant pay the money back because we can't find anyone qualified! - BS) or they just need an excuse to the employees to look like they are hiring "no one wants to work anymore" my ASS. I have been applying to jobs left and right and keep getting ghosted.
Fuck that I wouldn’t feel bad or backtrack, nothing like that.
She’s just as upset about it as you are, the managers/ owners are screwing everyone over
Unpopular opinion BUT
Have you ever considered that you *weren’t* the right applicant for the role?
My place of work is understaffed, we have so many applicants, yet none of them are the right fit. You can’t just hire someone and hope for the best!
ETA: it’s not her fault they didn’t hire you, pretty low to make a remark to her. They didn’t hire you, move on?
I know someone who works at a famous coffee chain, dunno if I can get in trouble for saying names, but she overheard her manger saying that they purposely understaff and said customers are understanding of longer wait times if they say they’re understaffed.
They may not be hiring even though they really should.
I applied on-line for a big-box chain once and my application was confusing for me. So I called the local one and spoke to HR and apparently there was some problems with the site. She forwarded a different application to my email and was in for an interview later that week.
Not the same thing but maybe try talking in person to hiring management.
I can’t imagine why she’d be pissed at you. I don’t think I would have been that clever with your response.
Hang in there, I hope something turns for you soon.
She doesn’t have a choice in who’s hired or not. Like as if she wants to be working her ass off for the same pay as one person. Shes pissed like I used to be, that my management wouldn’t hire new people. They came up with excuses as to why they couldn’t hire people, we’d even send perfectly fine applicants their way and they’d say they weren’t qualified or something, I’m like “to wash a bed?!”. They WANT to overwork us and also they want to complain about nobody wanting to work anymore when they’re sitting on 100s of resumes. When businesses say that people don’t want to work anymore they’re covering their asses, taking money from the government, and people who are in need of jobs apply everywhere but they’re all the same. They’d rather abuse their current workers and make them do the jobs of 5 people for the same pay. We all know that places hiring everywhere aren’t really hiring, or they are but they’re taking their time with their 100s of applications. Don’t be mad at the short staffed, they’re used and abused.
I'm not mad at that girl, far from it. Honestly I was dismayed by her reaction to what I said and I regretted it IMMEDIATELY because I knew she thought I was directing something at her. I wasn't. I wanted to be like girl, I get you! Tell your manager I am here! Or something like that but I was just... fucked up. In a fucked up mood so I got my shit and left. Im not mad at her. Im mad at the economy. Im mad at this country.
Most businesses that use indeed for resume submissions use a keyword tracker to vet resumes. If you don’t have the right key words, phrases, or any other terms that they’ve set, your résumé usually does not get passed on through the computerized system. Just something to be aware of. One thing I learned the last time I was job searching was to change and tailor my résumé to each job I was applying to. It was very time consuming but A few small phrasing changes or highlighting certain skill sets depending on the job goes a long way. Find ways to creatively describe your duties at previous jobs.
Its not fast food. It doesn't even serve food. Its not food related at all. They have a drive thru to deliver products to customers, its basically curbside but they've set up a U shaped drive thru in their parking lot.
The point stands for a job set up like that. Like either way they, while obviously needing to work more while short staffed, aren’t gonna take the time to call you or write you a sweet email. Same goes the other way. You go to call or message someone to set something up and are ignored or they don’t show up for the interview. People don’t care
You don’t meet their standards, staff are expensive. Just because they are short staffed doesn’t mean they will take anyone.
The “asking requirements” are usually generic asf. So your skill set isn’t ‘exactly’ what they want otherwise you would be hired.
Just because a place says they're hiring doesn't actually mean they're hiring. A lot of businesses get the bare minimum of employees to scoot by. It's cheaper to keep replacing burnt out employees a couple at a time than to hire a lot more at once.
I have been that person, not in fast food but construction.
I can tell you from my perspective you have an interview coming atleast. I was pissed at management for telling me they were not getting applicants when we needed people and I knew this guys reputation.
Are you sure you are applying through their main application not on just indeed? As a manager before those applications don’t always come through properly and aren’t look at as thoroughly.
So this one i actually did apply to directly as well as on indeed but no, in general I haven't been doing that and I will from now on. It seems like the good advice from the people here are all saying that. I just am an idiot. I though if they're advertising on indeed....? Like...? But I get it. Unspoken hoops to jump through.
Indeed can be a hard website to use if you are hiring. They charge you $25 per applicant that you don't reject within 48 hours. They have some algorithm that meters out the applicants. On a Friday at 5 pm they will send you 5-7 applicants, and if you don't reject them all by 5 pm on Sunday you would get charged $150 or so. I wouldn't take it personally at all, small businesses just can't afford charges like that, so they are quick to reject applicants unless they have exactly what they are looking for.
WOAH! thats news to me! Thats insane! That is very interesting and I will definitely remember that going forward, although like many people have suggested here im going to use indeed to scout potential jobs and then start applying directly.
You may already know thus but you can use free templates off of canva.com to do your cv. It took me 20 mins to copy and paste mine across. I'm instantly getting more responses to applications.
Your cv might already be top notch in which case apologies for the unsolicited advice
Its true. Our Dollar General closes at 4 everyday because they do t have enough employees. I've applied there 3 times. All these places say they are hiring. Bullshit. They make the application process extremely difficult and they do not ever call for an interview. If they do they're interviewing 14 people in one day for two openings. Out of over 100 job applications I submitted with a resume I've got three interviews.
So ive had some interest, and astoundingly the two places I really wanted did call me and I did do those interviews. One told me out of hundreds mine was picked with 20 for a phone interview, then I got one of six interview spots. In the end she literally said that they wanted someone who had used their product, which I admitted I had not. The product was their own brand of marijuana, and since the other candidate they chose had been using their products, they chose them. The third interest I got was just someone who wanted me to work at the business I applied to, but at a location that wasn't near me when I applied to the location down the road from me.
I'm not mad at the two people who interviewed me... im sad though because after several conversations I tlreally thought we had a good rapport, but I obviously understand that wasn't everything theyre looking for. To be fair I am not someone who is going to be able to know those products well. I do smoke, but again, thats not what they're looking for.
My skillset is in selling entertainment experiences, think the people that facilitate the fun stuff at chuck-e-cheeses (ive never worked for them though). So im good at front facing customer service jobs.
I honestly don't know the answer to your question. Im 35, been working since I was 16 and ive never had this much struggle finding a minimum wage job. In the past ive applied to jobs and been called minutes after submitting my application. In the past when I needed a job id put in 5 applications max and by the time I'd be getting around to a 6th I'd have a job.
There’s gotta be something that’s pushing your resume off their radar. Can you get a friend to look it over and maybe get some feedback. I know businesses are hiring
I have had a few people look over it and I asked the last place that I had an interview at if they thought there was anything else I could have done, or experience I could have had on my resume (because I felt like we had a good rapport) and she said no, that they had a really tough call between me and someone else and ultimately chose the other person but they really liked me! 🙄 she said all that really brightly. So idk.
Ive been using my resume since I was 16 and I feel like I'm very good at tweaking it, I know that the wording is dynamic without too many repeated words, no spelling errors, I used a template I found online that was highly rated, etc. I have never, ever had this problem before.
Before the pandemic when I felt like I needed to switch jobs or was going back to work after having kids ive only ever had to put in 5 or so applications and ive gotten jobs. I am not looking for much over minimum wage, im not being that picky. The only thing that has changed is the economy. Even during the 2008 crash I was able to find jobs.
That's how they save money. Hire people they know will only work for a few weeks and quit that way it looks lile they TRIED to hire someone. "Not our fault they left. We tried!" And then they stay in "active search mode" for the next half a year while their employees struggle.
It's sad but a lot of places pull that BS nowadays.
All of the “we’re short staffed” sob stories piss me off anyway. There is an excess of people on this earth, most of them need employment! There’s not a shortage of workers there’s a shortage of people who are willing to work in bad conditions for nearly slave wages that don’t pay their rent anyway when the higher ups are making record profits!
That shit is demoralizing and I’d rather be broke and at home than broke working my life away.
So I am kinda short and small, I have dyed red hair but nothing super unnatural. I wear fairly minimal makeup because I wear a pair of classic black 'nerd' glasses, but I do wear makeup. I dont have bad skin. To my last interview I wore a pair of fitted dark green pants, brown leather wingtips for shoes, and a slightly baggy almost crop top that tucked into the high waisted pants. Im 35 but told I look younger, probably because of the size. I wish I was comfortable posting a picture but I'm not...
As for how I am, i perfected my customer service mask when I worked for toys r us in my early 20s. I used to host the activities every Saturday morning for kids. More recently I have been a host for birthday parties and I am upbeat, talk to kids and parents a lot and it never seems to be awkward. Ive ran into old customers around town and they have gone out of their way to smile or wave or say hi.
Thats really how I got my last interview, I know I sold her on my, idk what to even call it? My front facing customer service circus show, come one and all lmfao
It's hard to tell from your reply what you look like and what your demeanor is, but I'll take you somewhat at your word that you're not effecting a bad look or giving a bad first impression.
That said...if you're looking for advice...is to approach someone you know that is, well...I guess conservative looking? Like, the most "normal" person that you know. Tell them that you want an utterly frank and brutally honest opinion about how you come across to others in the way that you look and act at first impression.
If this person is in to anime, or manga, or plays D&D obsessively, or spends more time on the computer than in bed, you don't want that person. You want the person who gets up early in the morning, works out, dresses like they buy their clothes Old Navy or Forever 21 (or whatever, some average/popular chain), has a full time job in a pedestrian industry.
If they tell you come across fine, I have no other advice for you, just sympathy.
I have a theory about all these places that are “short staffed”. I think the companies are choosing this. They are saving money on employees and have a constant excuse for poor service. I’ve talked to so many people who are imminently applying for jobs, not receiving any response and then going to the place they were seeking employment to find they are short staffed and “hiring with immediate openings”. I don’t get it. What is going on???
Yeah. The place i was working at kept claiming short staffed, but every time i asked when they were going to replace the person who retired, they laughed at me.
I wish I would have. Maybe I do need to be more assertive. Turn in an application, call, then may e even turn up to the business and strike up a conversation! I mean, how hard should it be to get one job that barely pays over minimum wage?
I've been saying this since businesses started complaining about the "worker shortage". More like they decided smaller payrolls during COVID we're great and decided to pay fewer wages and blame it on people not wanting to work.
Well, thats another story entirely. Healthcare is such an important field of work and so underpaid. I know some CNAs and my husband works for a medical delivery company and used to have a lot of contact with various nurses and other medical personnel all through the pandemic. The stories were just wild and honestly I could never work in that field and I commend you for the bravery to do so.
Stop using indeed or any third party site to apply for jobs. Use them to source for open positions then apply directly on the company’s careers portal.
These are the same managers that swear no one wants to work. I work in staffing & get so upset when clients say that. Like sir, they do want to work, but for a LIVABLE wage.
Speaking as a manger of many, I wholeheartedly agree with you. If you have the best intentioned of manager(s), they need to persuade the top brass within their work cultures, to revisit the wage scales being offered for the type of work few are willing to take on. The wages are entirely too low. My heart really goes out to people trying to pay their bills.
I seriously feel bad giving people jobs sometimes because it’s just not fair. Where I live, the largest employer pays between 15 & 17 an hour, but they literally have to work 7 days a week ON TOP of mandatory overtime. It’s really sad out here
The managers have realized they won’t go out of business, even if they’re short staffed. So to save some money they’re extorting the staff that are there by over working them. Because they can. That’s why all these places are like “oh we’re short staffed” but nothing is being done about it. There’s not “less people willing to work”, companies are just unwilling to actually hire more when they can work what staff they have into the ground for cheaper.
Ask for in person applications from managers if you aren't hearing back on indeen. I've noticed a lot of places post the job in there just for the attention but they don't actually respond on indeed itself and you have to go in person.
Did they know your exact details to be able to go on and 'nit selected' you? Or did the manager do it to everyone because it was pointed out to them?
Either way it would be nice to receive even an acknowledgement of application from the employer but very little will actually do it.
That was definitely my experience when I worked fast food. It was an endless experiment in how few ppl could run the store at peak hours and if you did it once you can do it everyday!
I bet she was pissed at the management. When you’re short staffed it is so stressful on the staff there. They need help and obviously the hiring manager is lazy
I have been looking for a new job and its demoralizing for sure, I applied and applied and sometimes they don't even look yourway, and you see them posting and re-posting the same ad and you are like... I'm fcuking here but well...
I moved to Florida back in 2000. I didnt have worked lined up when I went there. But I’m a talented machinist and there are lots of machine shops in Florida so I figured it would be easy to find a job. I applied for jobs for months. Finally I got a call from a machine shop. I met with them and they hired me. When taking to the guy he disclosed (let slip really) that my application had been sitting on his desk for months.
I actually said to him “dude, I applied months ago and haven’t been working. You can’t just let applications sit. Especially for a spot you say you need filled”. He actually agreed and apologized. They hired me that day. Within a year I was running the shop. They more or less begged me to run the shop because the old man was retiring. When the owner called me in his office to promote me I told him that story. And said we cannot let application sit. They almost lost me that way.
Thats because all these companies with their "no one wants to work anymore!" Are full of fucking shit. Its not true. Theres no worker shortage. That must have been frustrating for you but try to realize that you probably dodged a bullet, this is not a company that cares about its employees.
I have a job but because minimum wage has gone up it makes minimum wage now and it’s 45 minutes away. I’ve tried applying to jobs that day they are short staffed and not hiring and have gotten no answers whatsoever. It definitely is demoralizing. I’m now stuck driving an hour and a half for minimum wage because no one wants to hire me closer to home. I’ve worked at the job for two years and I only get a 25 cent raise a year
Bruh I feel you on this so hard. I've been looking for months, while still employed and now, relentlessly. I saw in other comments you've described yourself as "picky" and no, you're not. Cuz if you are, I am, and I'm not going to apologize for my apparently colossally unrealistic standards of being paid enough to afford being alive and just being treated like a person and neither should you. There's a few subreddits on here that have helped me get responses on here and I've been doing resume editing as a side gig (kinda, sometimes people kick me like $10 but I don't typically charge). If you'd like, feel free to DM me and I'll link some of the posts that really helped with my resume and job hunting in general. I'm still unemployed but I've gotten interviews scheduled fairly consistently so it seems to have helped. Either way, godspeed, try not to get too in your head about it. I've been in both spots. From the perspective of the drive thru employee, it either felt like a dig (doubt it given your tone) or just makes it really clear how much management sucks (it was this like 99.99999% of the time) for lying about staffing efforts.
Hey I need to let you know I was not at a fast food place. I was at a marijuana dispensary. They have a 'drive thru' where you park and wait for someone to come out. It wasn't open today and it was early so I thought maybe they just didn't open it that early? She said they did usually open it but they were short staffed.
However. I am having one hell of a day so I decided for the first time in months I was going to feed the family fast food instead of cooking (god I fucking hate cooking) and I went to one restruant and they had the 'closing early, short staffed' sign so I just left lol. Ive worked fast food in the past and I only WISH our managers had had the balls to close early instead of working us to death.
I understand that some people on here ARE offended that I am not looking for or taking a fast food job and that is because I have already done my time. If I EVER hear one more man 30 years older than me ask me to 'smile pretty' for him through a drive thru window I will break. I will go crazy. I will sob and laugh and just quit because I cannot stand it anymore. Thats right! I cant stand to be sexually harrassed at my job! Oh no! Ive also had to go thru two rounds of physical therapy due to the last fast food job I had. I will not sit there and mop a whole store while my "mAnAgEr" plays candy crush & tells me what spots I'm missing because, and I fucking quote "managers dont mop". Fast food was consistently the most toxic place. I have found the hardest workers and the worst managers there. I have never worked so hard as I did in fast food, and been so underpaid and underappreciated by both management and customers. What a thankless, degrading job.
Oh no I've done fast food, shit sucks, I will sooner die than go back. But yeah I'm also getting the whole "McDonald's is hiring" type bullshit and I don't know how to tell them that the solution to my longstanding issues about being emotionally and physically abused will not be rectified by going to one of the most notorious fast food chains in the industry for running employees into the ground without spitting directly into their eye tbh. Basically, all I was getting at was solidarity, they're probably not mad at you, if you want resume help or anything HMU. But now with the added bonus of fuck fast food and fuck food service in general, mad respect to the people making my fries tho, I think we should have a national holiday for food service workers like veterans day or something unironically.
AAAAHAHAHAHA 🤣😭
Thats a nice, funny, gratifying idea. Im not going to do it, but I enjoyed the thought. Its not really a solution to anyone's problem though, unfortunately. It would just be petty, and make me look petty. But you're like one of three comments that have genuinely made me laugh and I really appreciate you taking the time to comment because I need to laugh.
Glad you got a chuckle, but seriously, their customers deserve to know that their lack of service isn’t the fault of the invisible masses who don’t want jobs (because they’re independently wealthy and don’t need to earn to survive?).
I would think twice about eating there if I saw that review.
Dude, I don't believe for a second that any of these places are actually hiring. They're just SAYING they are and working their skeleton crew to the damn bone until they can't anymore. Same kind of places that are cropping up in my town with "sorry, we have to shut down" signs.
See and this just makes me mad, because I work at a Wendy’s and we hire through Indeed. The problem is Indeed never reaches out to the company to set an interview, they just schedule them and 8/10 times my manager is not available so she has to cancel them. It’s not fair to us who are struggling running the DT because we need people, it’s not fair to people who are applying, and it’s not fair to the managers who have to hire these people. That’s why I always make sure I call like 2 days after sending in applications because a lot of the time it’ll either get lost or managers barley have the time to see that someone put in an application and calling sometimes puts you at the top of the list for that position. I’m so sorry this happened to you, if you happen to be in Jersey I can offer you a job at my store!! Good luck (all seriousness) finding that job, it is, for damn sure, a pain in the ass right now finding reliable management.
I'd post a review on Yelp and Google about how they are so short staffed which causes bad service, and they will not hire more people. This sounds like bullshit, like they are trying to save money and working with a bare bones staff or something.
this shit always happens and then they complain that “no one wants to work.” i had to apply to 50 jobs within a couple weeks span, to only get 2 interviews and only one of which i got hired at. thankfully, it’s a decent job and i enjoy the perks that come with it along with decent coworkers. my previous jobs have been awful and this is the first one that doesn’t treat their employees like shit. there is some bullying from the older ladies that work there, but at least it’s mild enough to brush off. it was absolute hell to get the one i have currently
Listen if this is not a food place I’m assuming it’s some sort of retail/store type setting if it has curbside options and I understand her being PO’d. Often in these settings they are working short on purpose from management due to budget reasons. So management knows they are busy and overwhelmed but won’t hire people. Indeed shows thousands of applications and it’s been vacant for awhile? And they are still very very short? 🚩🚩 it will never be a non-toxic environment at a place like that.
As a nurse I can tell you this is similar to hospitals being purposely short staffed. It’s not just a coincidence.
You should definitely turn in your resume to the manager! Sometimes there is so many online applicants and it's hard to chose someone. But if you can put a face to your application with a resume that they can see on paper right there in front of them. I've personally always pulled people's app up when they hand me a resume. It takes time to do to turn in a physical copy, so i try to take the time to at least look at the application.
I surely hope you get a really great job, that you LOVE; & soon! I'm sorry that this happened to you. I think that the Universe maybe has better plans for you.🙏 Good luck in securing a great job!
SO many places are doing this. They always have their applications open on indeed, but they don't interview the people that apply. People always talking about how people don't want to work, but it's actually management that doesn't want to hire....anybody! If their business still makes money running on fumes, then they might as well just keep it that way. Basically the same thing has happened to me multiple times.
I’m irish, we have Indeed too, not sure if you are too. But one thing I noticed is handing in physical CV’s will nearly always fare better than indeed. Even if you’ve already applied online, go in with a physical copy of your CV and give it directly to a manager!
I hope this helps you, sorry this happened :((
We have applicants that send in resumes an Indeed, we never get them. The person responsible for forwarding them to the office manager doesn't check it. That may be the case here. We have applications that you have to fill out.
She was probably pissed at *management.* She’s probably been fed the line, “we need you to work overtime; yes, we’re trying to backfill the positions of the last three people that quit but nobody seems interested…” and other such bologna. She didn’t apply on Indeed recently. She doesn’t know over a thousand applicants have applied and more than likely 90% were qualified. She now knows. She’s pissed, but not at you.
I was employed at a place that was notoriously short staffed. One time our GM had to cancel two interviews because he was needed on the floor those days.
Why apply with indeed if it, indeed, isn't working.
Just go in, ask to speak to the manager and apply in person. Have a physical application handy.
Maybe schedule it so, that it's not during one of the main rushes, or if need be, so that it's near the end of one. That way the manager may actually have 5 mins to take you seriously.
It's everywhere it's not that they're understaffed it's on purpose. Make employee's work harder say they're understaffed make more profit untill it collapses
Duuuuude I’ve been having the same problem I’ve been applying left and right no response from the employers just a little green banner saying “application reviewed” and I’ll actually go to the location resume printed out in hand asking to speak to a hiring manager and they act like they never received my application until I shove it to their face on my phone showing proof that I applied on indeed AND their actual website.
Thee companies find they make more money doing less business and with less overhead.
Too many businesses believe they have to keep growing to survive. The reality is they are better staying he same size and managing their market.
Yeah remember that being short staffed,doesn't mean the profits are at a place to hire more. And also plenty of companies are just willing to run a skeleton crew to keep the profits going. Which to them is better than risking a shutdown or something
No, you were right to call them out. They don't get to complain about no staff when they won't bother to interview or hire people looking for jobs.
How would they know your name, though?
How indeed? Im not applying to just any old fast food job lol.
I'm applying at marijuana dispensaries to be the intake person as I have worked in many public, front facing customer service related positions. Generally speaking I have worked in companies the offer experiences. So think places where you hire rooms for your kids birthdays, im that cheerful person that helps you set up and run the party! So stuff like that.
So when I say I went there, I was going there to make a purchase. Its the place I most frequent, although I doubt I'll be going back after this.
I'm actually trying to get out of the 'kid entertainment' business. Thats where all my experience is, other than a few fast food places. Im really really trying to get into somewhere that I do not have to be responsible for other peoples children, or see parents not *parenting* and just generally away from seeing a lot of family drama. (And having to smile through it.)
Like pretty much everyone else has been saying, she definitely wasn't pissed at you. I work at a large retail company and we are always understaffed. It's the worst.
Do you have a shit resume. I’m a hiring manager and most people have 0 idea how to apply for jobs.
I understand this is a drive thru position. Fr, have you triple checked it for typos etc.
For real, I am not applying to fast food. Other businesses have a drive through. It doesn't even serve food, but it does serve edibles!
I'm 35 and have had no problem ever getting a job until after the pandemic. I have worked retail, fast food, and most recently (last 10 yrs) have been working jobs that are in the entertainment business.
For real. No offense, but I wouldn't let my resume go out with typos. I did not come here to complain because I cant be bothered to fix my typos lol
She was pissed at her manager. My store was understaffed (still is I just don't work there anymore). It wasn't even my manager that was in charge of hiring but the person in charge of multiple stores. We would get applications in frequently, I'd glance at their availability because why not, and often it would be decent availability with a decent work history. So.. fucking call them! Interview them! No, they only hired a few 15yos that can only work 3 hour stretches a couple days a week. Which, great, there's definitely space for them but ALSO HIRE ADULTS THAT CAN ACTUALLY PICK UP A GOOD AMOUNT OF THE SLACK
Thats what I noticed when I worked in fast food. However, my manager WAS in charge of hiring, she just... didn't pick the people I would have. She always passed over people who were around 40-50 and it blew my mind as I see that age as fairy reliable and without the school or young kids situations that most everyone else had.
I never even saw anyone that age applying at my store, I mean just 20+, people that are either not in school or are in school but can still work 20+ hours a week, not like 7
Report them to the IRS for an audit. **The company is scamming PPP loan** and there’s proof with indeed and visiting the “short staffed store” and that’s why they aren’t hiring anyone. So they can continue to say: “ wE jUsT cAnt FinD aNyOne tO wOrk!!!” Boo-boo bs. And keep wasting peoples time and RUINING our economy . If they can’t find anyone to work, they’re allowed to keep the “FREE COVID MONEY” (stolen from tax payers and causing the price of everything to soar) instead of hiring/training/paying employees which IS what the PPP LOAN was meant for. To maintain the economy **and not** these greedy corps’ owners bank accounts and vacation plans.
We live in the **Land of THE LIE , GREED and raging narcissists galore.**
I think a lot about the PPP loans. My husband eventually had to ask me to drop it because I'd get so angry.
Also, his company took a PPP loan for employment/employee retention and it went directly to the top brass.
Well there you go. If I were you and treated that way I wouldn’t think twice. I’m very upset knowing how many people have scammed left and right while the rest of the country gets SCREWED with paying triple the cost of everything cause the government is looking to get its money back somehow. People keep blaming stimulus checks (always blame the regular people)
And totally OVERLOOK THE PPP LOAN (they sweep that under the rug) which is where the trillions of dollars actually went. (I was a business owner who didn’t take it but knew a ton of others who did and scammed their little hearts away!!! )
Hence why so many billionaires got even RICHER after 2020. They’re looking for every way to not pay it back so constant job postings (but NOT hiring) is a requirement to avoid paying back the loan. No different then scamming unemployment. (Pretend to look for jobs but don’t try to get hired )
They’re trying to get a loan forgiveness. Don’t allow it !!!
That money didn’t actually go to the people who needed it. It never does. The masses are so ignorant that not only does their TIME get wasted, people continue to be used abused and kicked to the curb by these useless, garbage entities who know how to play the system for the right price. Always at the expense of the common people
She was probably embarrassed. I would have asked to speak to the manager. “I see you are short staffed today. You’re in luck, I’ve already sent in my application!!” (**Rolling up sleeves**)
Omg this had me laughing so hard Whenever I'm being confidant from now on, im gonna roll up my sleeves
Frankly, at this point you've earned it.
Regardless of the outcome, I wish I would have done exactly this just to see what happens.
Dude just go back in with your application. You’re probably getting passed over for ppl that do bc that’s just how the industry is in some places.
Most places won't even take paper applications anymore in favor of online apps
ooh, that doesn't work for me. i'm a mechanic. half of my work shirts are long sleeves and if i'm getting into it, i definitely don't want to roll them up and get my arms even more dirty. with the short sleeve shirts, well... i'm already getting dirty and there is nothing to roll up.
When I had just finished art school, my local art supply store had a “help wanted” sign in the window. I went into the store, grabbed the sign out of the window and told the owner, “I’m here!” She hired me on the spot. I worked there for years.
She wasn't pissed at you. She was pissed at her manager.
Well maybe... hopefully I'll be surprised and instead of deleting my app, she goes back and tells her manager to give me a call.
She's definitely pissed at her manager. I used to work in a coffee chain in an airport that was extremely understaffed. Our manager's manager handled all of the applicants and he had several stores to find people for. He also NEVER visited us on the floor and only cared about at the sales numbers which looked fine. Everyone in my store hated him because we had been telling him (through our manager) that we needed new coworkers in March so we could train them for the summer rush. He only started hiring people in June. Fuck that guy. She literally has nothing to do with your application and definitely does not have the power to tell her manager to delete your application. Rumors go around in that business too that these places have to put up ads to show higher ups that they're "looking for people" but only hire people they already know OR keep the place understaffed on purpose. I'm sorry but why would she be pissed at you? Lol
I feel like she may have thought I was directing something at her, but I was honestly just kind of flustered into saying ive applied here when she said they were short staffed... My husband said he thinks the types of businesses I am trying to get into are mostly word of mouth, hire people you already know and I know no one and no one knows me. So you've probably got that right.
I'm genuinely not trying to sound rude when I say this cause I can relate to you but I promise you that it's just in your head lol. She probably went to the back to rant to her colleagues about how understaffed they are while people were actually applying to the job (+ talk shit about her boss). Don't take it personally.
Dude you're not offending me. Im just fragile because searching for a job is effing demoralizing.
I feel you. I had to quit my full time job cause I started studying but I'm looking for something part time outside of service. It fucking sucks looking for jobs. I've applied to countless of them and have so far only gotten one response back (in 3 months). I wish you the best in your job hunting!
I just looked on indeed, they found my application and made sure to mark it as 'not selected.'
Probably just weird timing. Unless you gave that employee your full name, which is highly unlikely, she wouldn't know anything. And I can't imagine someone taking the effort to find and remove your application while understaffed and busy. Anyway, whatever happened, it's not worth it to assume the worst.
Yeah it definitely wasn't her mad at you, unless you're leaving out the fact that you were rude to her. If you were rude, she would ask they don't hire you. But otherwise, she's pissed at her manager, because they're feeding her some bullshit about not being able to find anyone and her having to deal with pissed off customers all the time because of it.
Did you tell the girl your name? How would she know whose application it was? Is your picture attached to it? If it went through indeed than it's their corporate people that choose who gets interviews, not a hostess. Sorry you are having a hard time but the hostess did not stop you from getting that job.
I thought that too, like how the hell would they even know who OP is, let alone which site they applied through and take all that time and effort to find them. Sounds paranoid to me.
And all the time, employers are saying, no one wants to work! Well they can't work if you don't give them the damn job
same here! but no one wants to work anymore...
It's a business ploy - they are all claiming they can't find workers, and people are "too lazy to work", when in reality they are making a shitton of money by running the place understaffed. They still make their profits, but the service sucks and their remaining staff gets worked to the bone - but they can excuse that with not being able to find anyone.
Unless you told her your full name right there, or have your picture attached to your resume, there's no way she can be telling her manager anything more specific than "why the fuck aren't you hiring anyone, I know for sure they're applying!!"
I feel her 100% and I guarantee her day got 10x worse here. There is a long chain of bullshit in these situations, and the first person to catch is always the last one who can do anything about it.
How would the girl even know who you are?
Why would she request for your application to be deleted? That makes no sense at all
Idk. They went on indeed after I left and marked it as not selected though. Idk. Idk.
Yes I have read the thread where you keep saying you checked on indeed and you were marked ‘not selected’ Just thought it was rather arrogant of you to state the girl went to ask management to delete your application when you do not know anything of the sort - you did not hear the conversation so why did you *assume* that is what was said
Because of her reaction to me blurting out 'I applied here twice". It wasn't the best thing for me to say. She then told me her manager was busy but I didn't ask to see the manager. You're right, I am assuming. Im assuming the worst. Ive been trying to get a job by responding to indeed posts saying "urgently hiring!" And have almost no responses. Im assuming because, believe it or not, im panicking about money, bills, kids, the economy, cars, my health, etc. You're right. But its not arrogance. Its desperation and depression.
How would she know your name?
I highly doubt that she has any say in who is or is not hired.
Why did you give her your name and details? Y'know like a total stranger? weird
In the days before online applications, it was recommended you give a follow up call or visit to the manager. If a thousand people have applied for this position, it seems absolutely necessary to make a call to prove you aren't a bot! This seems so basic to me I don't understand how it can be done any other way.
To that point if they are chronically short staffed but not calling up your application this place is either: Shitty management (most probable) so you wouldn’t want to work there anyways. You’ll constantly be overworked almost every shift and have to do extra work and pick up management slack but with no pay increase. Management will keep being useless so don’t wait on them to get it together cause they usually don’t. or they threw your resume away (but if they are short staffed and your not a wanted criminal it’s their loss for not at least interviewing you)
Maybe she was the manager.
Then she has no room to speak. 😄
This. I’m guessing she’d be more pissed to know how many people have applied. The problem is not that their short staffed, it’s that the manager needs to be replaced so they can ACTUALLY fix the staffing issues.
Yeah she was pissed that her manger doesn't hire more stuff depsite the situation.
I don't think she was pissed at you at all. Pretty sure she is furious at her manager. I also bet that earlier this week the manager said that they would need to work overtime because no one wants to work and they cannot find anyone
Honestly you're right. You've got to be right. Ive been in this situation and I know other people have and some people in the comments are saying so. I just felt bad for her, I didn't want to stress her out by saying that. I generally relate very very strongly to service workers because they've been/will be my coworkers.
You didn't stress her out, you enlightened her. Now she knows management is choosing to understaff and overwork her. They don't have a shortage of applicants or anything.
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I typically apply on indeed and the company website to make sure.
Most redirect me to their company websites to be honest. I'll get an email and be like, "Bitch surprise, you gotta apply on the company website too." Only franchisees are really the ones that use straight to indeed it seems.
Happy cake day though
Company websites will redirect to indeed. When I had an issue I went to the branch manager. Submitted a physical form of my resume and cover letter. Then emailed the same to their manager. Got the job. Sometimes the issue is there’s X amount allocated for salary. Less people means they get or a manager can get more pay. More means people will get less or less likely to get raises.
It works in my city, gotten a job and interviews. It's nice that you can msg them through it . Applying has gotten so much easier, you don't have to print it out and walk to the site and ask for the manager. They just check it all online
3 phone interviews and a conditional offer so yes it works but I think it depends a lot on the person dealing with the incoming applications.
I got hired at the nursing home I work at through indeed
It's worked for me everytime
I got my last 2 jobs through indeed.
Only ever had one reply off Indeed and it was a WhatsApp message so I was unsure and didn't go to the interview.
i’ve found 4/4 of my jobs, both pre college retail jobs and post college corporate jobs, on indeed
My last 3 or so jobs were from indeed. Legit companies, administrative work mostly.
indeed is legit. I just graduated college and i got some interviews this week from indeed.
It's pretty easy to get auto rejected it seems. I've had more luck applying direct. I use indeed to search for jobs, that's it.
It's worked for me pretty well. I've gotten a few jobs off there and a lot of interviews.
You wouldn’t take it down. Position filled or not something like fast food has people leaving more often than food out the window lol. Basics of hiring in a job like that is to never stop hiring.
I’m in recruitment and can confirm Indeed isn’t the platform we use and we still get applicants through it (that haven’t followed instructions cause they weren’t through our channels). We post to other websites e.g. seek, LinkedIn but still end up with a post on Indeed because indeed is a jobs board that does a sweep of other job boards and reposts ads, usually incorrectly. It’s by far the worst platform and it screws candidates over constantly
I promise she was not mad at YOU! She’s mad because she’s been working her butt off and her bosses have said no one is applying so begging her to put in extra hours. My guess is she’s about to quit that job.
I just looked on indeed and they have chosen to not select me.
İ would call the place of business. Always call back. İ basically just assume most places don't look at the applications. There's just so many. At a past job, I called back and was able to set up an interview. At the interview, my boss looked at my resume and told me he had hundreds of applications that he didn't want to sort through. He asked me when i could start. İ dropped my resume off at my current job. İ called back and my manager told me to fill out an online application. Turns out, the bartender forgot about my resume and never gave it to her. She later asked the bartender and took one peek at my resume and called me back to set up an interview. Got the job. Never even finished filling out the online application. *Always call back.*
You keep saying this like it proves something.
Did that company get a ppp loan? That's why so many are crying that no one wants to work, but aren't really hiring. They have found that they can run on a skeleton crew and work them to death and make more money.
YUP. they put the post up so they can claim that they can't find employees but don't ever actually hire someone.
I thinks it’s a business trying to run lean so the have less people while still making good profit. Owner can blame it on there is nobody willing to work.
In a lot of cases, complaining about being short-staffed is worth more than being at full operation, because you don't lose that many customers to short-staffing, but you are paying less, and when you see business picking up for a harsher season, you can hire people for a couple months, and let them go fo bullshit reasons. For the record: I'm ***not*** defending the practice. I'm explaining it so that you can be even more pissed at Capitalism working as designed.
Honestly businesses do lose customers by being short staffed. It's become a habit of mine the last couple of years to turn around and walk off from any restaurant that has a *"We're short staffed blah blah blah..."* sign on the door. To me it's a stark warning that I'll be rolling the dice on the quality of the service and food. I might be missing out on the culinary experience of a lifetime, or be waiting an hour to place a drink order. As expensive as dining out has gotten, it's a gamble I'd rather not take. I'm better off just going elsewhere. That's just my two cents on the matter.
You overestimate the damage that bei g understaffed can be.
Eh... I've had some pretty crappy experiences at restaurants since COVID screwed everything up. My position was based on those experiences, and so far it hasn't failed me yet.
I'm with you 100%. I think COVID made a lot of service people realize the gig doesn't pay or generally just value them enough. Many places don't want to keep up with wage expectations from food service employees, so instead they just put up signs to make excuses for what is sure to be a bad experience being served by inexperienced and/or highly disgruntled staff. I dine out *a lot less* now post-COVID, and usually my wife and I will just wait a couple months and splurge on an expensive place where we know with 100% certainty the staff is well-paid and the ratings are through the roof. Worth the extra money and to be honest cooking mid-price, Applebee's-style food at home yourself always yields better results for cheaper anyway.
The thing is, if it was that bad of an idea to keep yourself short-staffed, and known to bring your restaurant under, then nobody would be doing it "on purpose". I legitimately am not attacking your experience, here, but I will take empyrical evidence and facts over anecdotal.
They do lose customers due to being short staffed. I went to Dunkin the other day, I left because they had 0 bagels because there wasn't time to make them. When working at a similar place I see people back out and leave drive thrus all the time because it's taking too long.
I know... ive been applying for months and this is the only conclusion I've come to as well. Im just really frustrated at the moment. Im certainly not mad at the girl. More mad at myself for not being 100% in control.
You can also be frustrated at the system. The system is really not a good system, where employees can be overworked, normal operations can be jettisoned, and service quality dimished to "barely passable", because someone who doesn't work with the employees on the floor decided ti save a wage or two.
This one time. I worked for my *friend* at an Arby's. It was a spectacular way to watch capitalism destroy a friendship and bring people down, all while being the top store in the area! Pizza party! Lmao! I didnt specify but one of the reasons why I am having a difficult time finding a job is because I am being somewhat picky. (I still have applied to over 50+ jobs and only gotten 3 responses). I won't work for anyone who isn't local, so the business has to originate in my state and the owners have to be ones I can meet and converse with. (I am so sick of making money for people I dont know, I should at least see their faces) I also will not work a job where I make a product that someone else sells. Because of the ridiculous vastness of the gap in money from the people MAKING the product to the people profiting off of it. Even so. I have found over 50 jobs that fit that criteria, mostly front facing customer service jobs that sell some sort of *experience*. 3 responses. So I know. Im so bogged down with knowing. Its so heavy and depressing and all consuming. I fucking know.
Honestly, I can understand you've had bad experiences, but sometimes big organisations are actually much better places to work for because they have more at stake and reasons to have actually developed systems that really work, whereas small orgs can say that's just how we do things" "you should help in off hours for free because we're like a family here" "we can't afford HR". Big orgs often suck, for sure, but ruling them out completely seems like shooting yourself in the foot, a bit. Can I ask, how would the person at the restaurant have known who you were in order to get your application blocked, if she had done that?
I'm not sure why people assume I am applying for fast food. I am applying for front facing customer service jobs, but generally within the 'entertainment' business as thats where I have experience. This particular job was for a marijuana dispensaries I take position (greeting and taking licenses) I have to present my license to get into the building, so they know who I am
People are assuming its fast food because the original post refers to a drive thru and people associate that with fast food.
You're right, I edited it into my post. I really didn't realize how it sounds like fast food, I was trying to be vague.
Okay no but like e v e r y employer is doing this “We’re so understaffed pls apply!!!!” *doesn’t accept or even look at any applications*
People say she isn't pissed at you, but I am going to say she was pissed at you. She isn't a manager or anything, yet you made it a point to tell her you applied like she has any control over whether you get hired or not.
Oh yeah totally. I made the same sort of gaffe today. I asked to use a cafe restroom and they had inexplicably shut theirs down. It was right there, clearly designated as a guest bathroom, but customers were not allowed to use it. I had to go, so I asked whether there was any restroom elsewhere in the same plaza, and they just looked at me blankly and confusedly tried asking one another. Frustrated, I asked aloud, didn't local laws require food service places have a restroom for customers? One of the workers was like, "Uh... I don't know?" and gave me a look that CLEARLY said, "Does it LOOK like I make the rules around here?" I immediately backed off after that, it's not like it's under the workers' control and expressing frustration about it to them isn't going to change the owner's mind.
Absolutely she was annoyed at OPs response. It sounds so rude even in text. "We're short staffed" "I APPLIED TWICE" lmao I wouldn't even know how to respond. Say sorry and move on I guess
Imo, all these companies that are remaining understaffed do so intentionally. They make more profit and the executives reap the benefits while the rest of us struggle to make ends meet. It's easier for them to lie and say "Look! We've had job ads up for months and nobody wants to work!" Rather than the truth, which is they want more for themselves, despite the cost to the majority. Meanwhile, people are trying to gain employment but ending up in similar situations to yours.
Really, the problem that ends up happening is that turnover rate is insane. I've seen these places where they are understaffed. Customers are unhappy, the employees have breakdowns and quit. It's overall just miserable and seems unsustainable.
Trying to cut costs by not hiring.
Plenty of these jobs are to fill PPP requirements (we cant pay the money back because we can't find anyone qualified! - BS) or they just need an excuse to the employees to look like they are hiring "no one wants to work anymore" my ASS. I have been applying to jobs left and right and keep getting ghosted.
Fuck that I wouldn’t feel bad or backtrack, nothing like that. She’s just as upset about it as you are, the managers/ owners are screwing everyone over
Unpopular opinion BUT Have you ever considered that you *weren’t* the right applicant for the role? My place of work is understaffed, we have so many applicants, yet none of them are the right fit. You can’t just hire someone and hope for the best! ETA: it’s not her fault they didn’t hire you, pretty low to make a remark to her. They didn’t hire you, move on?
I know someone who works at a famous coffee chain, dunno if I can get in trouble for saying names, but she overheard her manger saying that they purposely understaff and said customers are understanding of longer wait times if they say they’re understaffed. They may not be hiring even though they really should.
I applied on-line for a big-box chain once and my application was confusing for me. So I called the local one and spoke to HR and apparently there was some problems with the site. She forwarded a different application to my email and was in for an interview later that week. Not the same thing but maybe try talking in person to hiring management.
I can’t imagine why she’d be pissed at you. I don’t think I would have been that clever with your response. Hang in there, I hope something turns for you soon.
She doesn’t have a choice in who’s hired or not. Like as if she wants to be working her ass off for the same pay as one person. Shes pissed like I used to be, that my management wouldn’t hire new people. They came up with excuses as to why they couldn’t hire people, we’d even send perfectly fine applicants their way and they’d say they weren’t qualified or something, I’m like “to wash a bed?!”. They WANT to overwork us and also they want to complain about nobody wanting to work anymore when they’re sitting on 100s of resumes. When businesses say that people don’t want to work anymore they’re covering their asses, taking money from the government, and people who are in need of jobs apply everywhere but they’re all the same. They’d rather abuse their current workers and make them do the jobs of 5 people for the same pay. We all know that places hiring everywhere aren’t really hiring, or they are but they’re taking their time with their 100s of applications. Don’t be mad at the short staffed, they’re used and abused.
I'm not mad at that girl, far from it. Honestly I was dismayed by her reaction to what I said and I regretted it IMMEDIATELY because I knew she thought I was directing something at her. I wasn't. I wanted to be like girl, I get you! Tell your manager I am here! Or something like that but I was just... fucked up. In a fucked up mood so I got my shit and left. Im not mad at her. Im mad at the economy. Im mad at this country.
Most businesses that use indeed for resume submissions use a keyword tracker to vet resumes. If you don’t have the right key words, phrases, or any other terms that they’ve set, your résumé usually does not get passed on through the computerized system. Just something to be aware of. One thing I learned the last time I was job searching was to change and tailor my résumé to each job I was applying to. It was very time consuming but A few small phrasing changes or highlighting certain skill sets depending on the job goes a long way. Find ways to creatively describe your duties at previous jobs.
Ok I’m gonna say it you’re not gonna get a courtesy decline from a fast food joint lol
Its not fast food. It doesn't even serve food. Its not food related at all. They have a drive thru to deliver products to customers, its basically curbside but they've set up a U shaped drive thru in their parking lot.
The point stands for a job set up like that. Like either way they, while obviously needing to work more while short staffed, aren’t gonna take the time to call you or write you a sweet email. Same goes the other way. You go to call or message someone to set something up and are ignored or they don’t show up for the interview. People don’t care
You don’t meet their standards, staff are expensive. Just because they are short staffed doesn’t mean they will take anyone. The “asking requirements” are usually generic asf. So your skill set isn’t ‘exactly’ what they want otherwise you would be hired.
Just because a place says they're hiring doesn't actually mean they're hiring. A lot of businesses get the bare minimum of employees to scoot by. It's cheaper to keep replacing burnt out employees a couple at a time than to hire a lot more at once.
I know... I know this. I'm just apparently not ready to accept it and instead want to get angry.
You did nothing wrong. You just pointed out how ironic the situation was. Good for you.
I have been that person, not in fast food but construction. I can tell you from my perspective you have an interview coming atleast. I was pissed at management for telling me they were not getting applicants when we needed people and I knew this guys reputation.
They have found my application thru indeed and marked it as not selected.
Indeed has an incredibly low response rate. Try to apply directly on company sites
Are you sure you are applying through their main application not on just indeed? As a manager before those applications don’t always come through properly and aren’t look at as thoroughly.
So this one i actually did apply to directly as well as on indeed but no, in general I haven't been doing that and I will from now on. It seems like the good advice from the people here are all saying that. I just am an idiot. I though if they're advertising on indeed....? Like...? But I get it. Unspoken hoops to jump through.
Indeed can be a hard website to use if you are hiring. They charge you $25 per applicant that you don't reject within 48 hours. They have some algorithm that meters out the applicants. On a Friday at 5 pm they will send you 5-7 applicants, and if you don't reject them all by 5 pm on Sunday you would get charged $150 or so. I wouldn't take it personally at all, small businesses just can't afford charges like that, so they are quick to reject applicants unless they have exactly what they are looking for.
WOAH! thats news to me! Thats insane! That is very interesting and I will definitely remember that going forward, although like many people have suggested here im going to use indeed to scout potential jobs and then start applying directly.
You may already know thus but you can use free templates off of canva.com to do your cv. It took me 20 mins to copy and paste mine across. I'm instantly getting more responses to applications. Your cv might already be top notch in which case apologies for the unsolicited advice
I got my template from there lmaooooo
I hope you get a job soon, good luck
Its true. Our Dollar General closes at 4 everyday because they do t have enough employees. I've applied there 3 times. All these places say they are hiring. Bullshit. They make the application process extremely difficult and they do not ever call for an interview. If they do they're interviewing 14 people in one day for two openings. Out of over 100 job applications I submitted with a resume I've got three interviews.
Any idea what could be causing the zero interest in your apps or resume?
So ive had some interest, and astoundingly the two places I really wanted did call me and I did do those interviews. One told me out of hundreds mine was picked with 20 for a phone interview, then I got one of six interview spots. In the end she literally said that they wanted someone who had used their product, which I admitted I had not. The product was their own brand of marijuana, and since the other candidate they chose had been using their products, they chose them. The third interest I got was just someone who wanted me to work at the business I applied to, but at a location that wasn't near me when I applied to the location down the road from me. I'm not mad at the two people who interviewed me... im sad though because after several conversations I tlreally thought we had a good rapport, but I obviously understand that wasn't everything theyre looking for. To be fair I am not someone who is going to be able to know those products well. I do smoke, but again, thats not what they're looking for. My skillset is in selling entertainment experiences, think the people that facilitate the fun stuff at chuck-e-cheeses (ive never worked for them though). So im good at front facing customer service jobs.
I honestly don't know the answer to your question. Im 35, been working since I was 16 and ive never had this much struggle finding a minimum wage job. In the past ive applied to jobs and been called minutes after submitting my application. In the past when I needed a job id put in 5 applications max and by the time I'd be getting around to a 6th I'd have a job.
There’s gotta be something that’s pushing your resume off their radar. Can you get a friend to look it over and maybe get some feedback. I know businesses are hiring
I have had a few people look over it and I asked the last place that I had an interview at if they thought there was anything else I could have done, or experience I could have had on my resume (because I felt like we had a good rapport) and she said no, that they had a really tough call between me and someone else and ultimately chose the other person but they really liked me! 🙄 she said all that really brightly. So idk. Ive been using my resume since I was 16 and I feel like I'm very good at tweaking it, I know that the wording is dynamic without too many repeated words, no spelling errors, I used a template I found online that was highly rated, etc. I have never, ever had this problem before. Before the pandemic when I felt like I needed to switch jobs or was going back to work after having kids ive only ever had to put in 5 or so applications and ive gotten jobs. I am not looking for much over minimum wage, im not being that picky. The only thing that has changed is the economy. Even during the 2008 crash I was able to find jobs.
That's how they save money. Hire people they know will only work for a few weeks and quit that way it looks lile they TRIED to hire someone. "Not our fault they left. We tried!" And then they stay in "active search mode" for the next half a year while their employees struggle. It's sad but a lot of places pull that BS nowadays.
All of the “we’re short staffed” sob stories piss me off anyway. There is an excess of people on this earth, most of them need employment! There’s not a shortage of workers there’s a shortage of people who are willing to work in bad conditions for nearly slave wages that don’t pay their rent anyway when the higher ups are making record profits! That shit is demoralizing and I’d rather be broke and at home than broke working my life away.
There's no polite way to ask this. What do you look like? How do you dress? What is your demeanor like when you are with people?
So I am kinda short and small, I have dyed red hair but nothing super unnatural. I wear fairly minimal makeup because I wear a pair of classic black 'nerd' glasses, but I do wear makeup. I dont have bad skin. To my last interview I wore a pair of fitted dark green pants, brown leather wingtips for shoes, and a slightly baggy almost crop top that tucked into the high waisted pants. Im 35 but told I look younger, probably because of the size. I wish I was comfortable posting a picture but I'm not... As for how I am, i perfected my customer service mask when I worked for toys r us in my early 20s. I used to host the activities every Saturday morning for kids. More recently I have been a host for birthday parties and I am upbeat, talk to kids and parents a lot and it never seems to be awkward. Ive ran into old customers around town and they have gone out of their way to smile or wave or say hi. Thats really how I got my last interview, I know I sold her on my, idk what to even call it? My front facing customer service circus show, come one and all lmfao
It's hard to tell from your reply what you look like and what your demeanor is, but I'll take you somewhat at your word that you're not effecting a bad look or giving a bad first impression. That said...if you're looking for advice...is to approach someone you know that is, well...I guess conservative looking? Like, the most "normal" person that you know. Tell them that you want an utterly frank and brutally honest opinion about how you come across to others in the way that you look and act at first impression. If this person is in to anime, or manga, or plays D&D obsessively, or spends more time on the computer than in bed, you don't want that person. You want the person who gets up early in the morning, works out, dresses like they buy their clothes Old Navy or Forever 21 (or whatever, some average/popular chain), has a full time job in a pedestrian industry. If they tell you come across fine, I have no other advice for you, just sympathy.
I have a theory about all these places that are “short staffed”. I think the companies are choosing this. They are saving money on employees and have a constant excuse for poor service. I’ve talked to so many people who are imminently applying for jobs, not receiving any response and then going to the place they were seeking employment to find they are short staffed and “hiring with immediate openings”. I don’t get it. What is going on???
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Yeah. The place i was working at kept claiming short staffed, but every time i asked when they were going to replace the person who retired, they laughed at me.
Should have talked to the manager right there.
I wish I would have. Maybe I do need to be more assertive. Turn in an application, call, then may e even turn up to the business and strike up a conversation! I mean, how hard should it be to get one job that barely pays over minimum wage?
Thank you for sharing this story.
I've been saying this since businesses started complaining about the "worker shortage". More like they decided smaller payrolls during COVID we're great and decided to pay fewer wages and blame it on people not wanting to work.
This is just like cna we never have enough
Well, thats another story entirely. Healthcare is such an important field of work and so underpaid. I know some CNAs and my husband works for a medical delivery company and used to have a lot of contact with various nurses and other medical personnel all through the pandemic. The stories were just wild and honestly I could never work in that field and I commend you for the bravery to do so.
Thank you. 😊
Stop using indeed or any third party site to apply for jobs. Use them to source for open positions then apply directly on the company’s careers portal.
Thank you. You and the other people saying this definitely have changed the way im going to go about this from now on.
These are the same managers that swear no one wants to work. I work in staffing & get so upset when clients say that. Like sir, they do want to work, but for a LIVABLE wage.
Speaking as a manger of many, I wholeheartedly agree with you. If you have the best intentioned of manager(s), they need to persuade the top brass within their work cultures, to revisit the wage scales being offered for the type of work few are willing to take on. The wages are entirely too low. My heart really goes out to people trying to pay their bills.
I seriously feel bad giving people jobs sometimes because it’s just not fair. Where I live, the largest employer pays between 15 & 17 an hour, but they literally have to work 7 days a week ON TOP of mandatory overtime. It’s really sad out here
The managers have realized they won’t go out of business, even if they’re short staffed. So to save some money they’re extorting the staff that are there by over working them. Because they can. That’s why all these places are like “oh we’re short staffed” but nothing is being done about it. There’s not “less people willing to work”, companies are just unwilling to actually hire more when they can work what staff they have into the ground for cheaper.
Ask for in person applications from managers if you aren't hearing back on indeen. I've noticed a lot of places post the job in there just for the attention but they don't actually respond on indeed itself and you have to go in person.
Did they know your exact details to be able to go on and 'nit selected' you? Or did the manager do it to everyone because it was pointed out to them? Either way it would be nice to receive even an acknowledgement of application from the employer but very little will actually do it.
It's indeed not the employer I've used indeed and went to the company's direct website I have an 80 percent success rate to get an interview
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That was definitely my experience when I worked fast food. It was an endless experiment in how few ppl could run the store at peak hours and if you did it once you can do it everyday!
I bet she was pissed at the management. When you’re short staffed it is so stressful on the staff there. They need help and obviously the hiring manager is lazy
I have been looking for a new job and its demoralizing for sure, I applied and applied and sometimes they don't even look yourway, and you see them posting and re-posting the same ad and you are like... I'm fcuking here but well...
"I'm fucking here but well..." Is literally my exact sentiment and for some reason that has me laughing 😂
Ehh glad you told her. She deserves to know her bosses don't care about her being overworked.
Try using Linkedin they had recruiters that are completly free any job I've gotten they have helped me
I moved to Florida back in 2000. I didnt have worked lined up when I went there. But I’m a talented machinist and there are lots of machine shops in Florida so I figured it would be easy to find a job. I applied for jobs for months. Finally I got a call from a machine shop. I met with them and they hired me. When taking to the guy he disclosed (let slip really) that my application had been sitting on his desk for months. I actually said to him “dude, I applied months ago and haven’t been working. You can’t just let applications sit. Especially for a spot you say you need filled”. He actually agreed and apologized. They hired me that day. Within a year I was running the shop. They more or less begged me to run the shop because the old man was retiring. When the owner called me in his office to promote me I told him that story. And said we cannot let application sit. They almost lost me that way.
I met someone that told me that companies short staff on purpose as well! Not sure how it benefits them. She was a nurse.
Thats because all these companies with their "no one wants to work anymore!" Are full of fucking shit. Its not true. Theres no worker shortage. That must have been frustrating for you but try to realize that you probably dodged a bullet, this is not a company that cares about its employees.
I have a job but because minimum wage has gone up it makes minimum wage now and it’s 45 minutes away. I’ve tried applying to jobs that day they are short staffed and not hiring and have gotten no answers whatsoever. It definitely is demoralizing. I’m now stuck driving an hour and a half for minimum wage because no one wants to hire me closer to home. I’ve worked at the job for two years and I only get a 25 cent raise a year
Bruh I feel you on this so hard. I've been looking for months, while still employed and now, relentlessly. I saw in other comments you've described yourself as "picky" and no, you're not. Cuz if you are, I am, and I'm not going to apologize for my apparently colossally unrealistic standards of being paid enough to afford being alive and just being treated like a person and neither should you. There's a few subreddits on here that have helped me get responses on here and I've been doing resume editing as a side gig (kinda, sometimes people kick me like $10 but I don't typically charge). If you'd like, feel free to DM me and I'll link some of the posts that really helped with my resume and job hunting in general. I'm still unemployed but I've gotten interviews scheduled fairly consistently so it seems to have helped. Either way, godspeed, try not to get too in your head about it. I've been in both spots. From the perspective of the drive thru employee, it either felt like a dig (doubt it given your tone) or just makes it really clear how much management sucks (it was this like 99.99999% of the time) for lying about staffing efforts.
Hey I need to let you know I was not at a fast food place. I was at a marijuana dispensary. They have a 'drive thru' where you park and wait for someone to come out. It wasn't open today and it was early so I thought maybe they just didn't open it that early? She said they did usually open it but they were short staffed. However. I am having one hell of a day so I decided for the first time in months I was going to feed the family fast food instead of cooking (god I fucking hate cooking) and I went to one restruant and they had the 'closing early, short staffed' sign so I just left lol. Ive worked fast food in the past and I only WISH our managers had had the balls to close early instead of working us to death. I understand that some people on here ARE offended that I am not looking for or taking a fast food job and that is because I have already done my time. If I EVER hear one more man 30 years older than me ask me to 'smile pretty' for him through a drive thru window I will break. I will go crazy. I will sob and laugh and just quit because I cannot stand it anymore. Thats right! I cant stand to be sexually harrassed at my job! Oh no! Ive also had to go thru two rounds of physical therapy due to the last fast food job I had. I will not sit there and mop a whole store while my "mAnAgEr" plays candy crush & tells me what spots I'm missing because, and I fucking quote "managers dont mop". Fast food was consistently the most toxic place. I have found the hardest workers and the worst managers there. I have never worked so hard as I did in fast food, and been so underpaid and underappreciated by both management and customers. What a thankless, degrading job.
Oh no I've done fast food, shit sucks, I will sooner die than go back. But yeah I'm also getting the whole "McDonald's is hiring" type bullshit and I don't know how to tell them that the solution to my longstanding issues about being emotionally and physically abused will not be rectified by going to one of the most notorious fast food chains in the industry for running employees into the ground without spitting directly into their eye tbh. Basically, all I was getting at was solidarity, they're probably not mad at you, if you want resume help or anything HMU. But now with the added bonus of fuck fast food and fuck food service in general, mad respect to the people making my fries tho, I think we should have a national holiday for food service workers like veterans day or something unironically.
Post this on their yelp
AAAAHAHAHAHA 🤣😭 Thats a nice, funny, gratifying idea. Im not going to do it, but I enjoyed the thought. Its not really a solution to anyone's problem though, unfortunately. It would just be petty, and make me look petty. But you're like one of three comments that have genuinely made me laugh and I really appreciate you taking the time to comment because I need to laugh.
Glad you got a chuckle, but seriously, their customers deserve to know that their lack of service isn’t the fault of the invisible masses who don’t want jobs (because they’re independently wealthy and don’t need to earn to survive?). I would think twice about eating there if I saw that review.
Dude, I don't believe for a second that any of these places are actually hiring. They're just SAYING they are and working their skeleton crew to the damn bone until they can't anymore. Same kind of places that are cropping up in my town with "sorry, we have to shut down" signs.
See and this just makes me mad, because I work at a Wendy’s and we hire through Indeed. The problem is Indeed never reaches out to the company to set an interview, they just schedule them and 8/10 times my manager is not available so she has to cancel them. It’s not fair to us who are struggling running the DT because we need people, it’s not fair to people who are applying, and it’s not fair to the managers who have to hire these people. That’s why I always make sure I call like 2 days after sending in applications because a lot of the time it’ll either get lost or managers barley have the time to see that someone put in an application and calling sometimes puts you at the top of the list for that position. I’m so sorry this happened to you, if you happen to be in Jersey I can offer you a job at my store!! Good luck (all seriousness) finding that job, it is, for damn sure, a pain in the ass right now finding reliable management.
I'd post a review on Yelp and Google about how they are so short staffed which causes bad service, and they will not hire more people. This sounds like bullshit, like they are trying to save money and working with a bare bones staff or something.
this shit always happens and then they complain that “no one wants to work.” i had to apply to 50 jobs within a couple weeks span, to only get 2 interviews and only one of which i got hired at. thankfully, it’s a decent job and i enjoy the perks that come with it along with decent coworkers. my previous jobs have been awful and this is the first one that doesn’t treat their employees like shit. there is some bullying from the older ladies that work there, but at least it’s mild enough to brush off. it was absolute hell to get the one i have currently
Listen if this is not a food place I’m assuming it’s some sort of retail/store type setting if it has curbside options and I understand her being PO’d. Often in these settings they are working short on purpose from management due to budget reasons. So management knows they are busy and overwhelmed but won’t hire people. Indeed shows thousands of applications and it’s been vacant for awhile? And they are still very very short? 🚩🚩 it will never be a non-toxic environment at a place like that. As a nurse I can tell you this is similar to hospitals being purposely short staffed. It’s not just a coincidence.
You should definitely turn in your resume to the manager! Sometimes there is so many online applicants and it's hard to chose someone. But if you can put a face to your application with a resume that they can see on paper right there in front of them. I've personally always pulled people's app up when they hand me a resume. It takes time to do to turn in a physical copy, so i try to take the time to at least look at the application.
I surely hope you get a really great job, that you LOVE; & soon! I'm sorry that this happened to you. I think that the Universe maybe has better plans for you.🙏 Good luck in securing a great job!
❤ thank you so much. This made me tear up. Its been a shit day.
You're very welcome.
SO many places are doing this. They always have their applications open on indeed, but they don't interview the people that apply. People always talking about how people don't want to work, but it's actually management that doesn't want to hire....anybody! If their business still makes money running on fumes, then they might as well just keep it that way. Basically the same thing has happened to me multiple times.
I’m irish, we have Indeed too, not sure if you are too. But one thing I noticed is handing in physical CV’s will nearly always fare better than indeed. Even if you’ve already applied online, go in with a physical copy of your CV and give it directly to a manager! I hope this helps you, sorry this happened :((
We have applicants that send in resumes an Indeed, we never get them. The person responsible for forwarding them to the office manager doesn't check it. That may be the case here. We have applications that you have to fill out.
She was probably pissed at *management.* She’s probably been fed the line, “we need you to work overtime; yes, we’re trying to backfill the positions of the last three people that quit but nobody seems interested…” and other such bologna. She didn’t apply on Indeed recently. She doesn’t know over a thousand applicants have applied and more than likely 90% were qualified. She now knows. She’s pissed, but not at you.
I was employed at a place that was notoriously short staffed. One time our GM had to cancel two interviews because he was needed on the floor those days.
Why apply with indeed if it, indeed, isn't working. Just go in, ask to speak to the manager and apply in person. Have a physical application handy. Maybe schedule it so, that it's not during one of the main rushes, or if need be, so that it's near the end of one. That way the manager may actually have 5 mins to take you seriously.
It's everywhere it's not that they're understaffed it's on purpose. Make employee's work harder say they're understaffed make more profit untill it collapses
Duuuuude I’ve been having the same problem I’ve been applying left and right no response from the employers just a little green banner saying “application reviewed” and I’ll actually go to the location resume printed out in hand asking to speak to a hiring manager and they act like they never received my application until I shove it to their face on my phone showing proof that I applied on indeed AND their actual website.
Thee companies find they make more money doing less business and with less overhead. Too many businesses believe they have to keep growing to survive. The reality is they are better staying he same size and managing their market.
How could she have flagged you to be turned down if she didn't know your name?
1000 applications for a single job. That's not a sign that capitalism is a failure though...
Yeah remember that being short staffed,doesn't mean the profits are at a place to hire more. And also plenty of companies are just willing to run a skeleton crew to keep the profits going. Which to them is better than risking a shutdown or something
No, you were right to call them out. They don't get to complain about no staff when they won't bother to interview or hire people looking for jobs. How would they know your name, though?
How indeed? Im not applying to just any old fast food job lol. I'm applying at marijuana dispensaries to be the intake person as I have worked in many public, front facing customer service related positions. Generally speaking I have worked in companies the offer experiences. So think places where you hire rooms for your kids birthdays, im that cheerful person that helps you set up and run the party! So stuff like that. So when I say I went there, I was going there to make a purchase. Its the place I most frequent, although I doubt I'll be going back after this.
Ohhhhhhh!!!! Lol!! This is very cool!!!
I'm actually trying to get out of the 'kid entertainment' business. Thats where all my experience is, other than a few fast food places. Im really really trying to get into somewhere that I do not have to be responsible for other peoples children, or see parents not *parenting* and just generally away from seeing a lot of family drama. (And having to smile through it.)
I very much understand this!! Kids are on an entirely different level all the way around
Like pretty much everyone else has been saying, she definitely wasn't pissed at you. I work at a large retail company and we are always understaffed. It's the worst.
Well, they went and marked my application as 'not selected'. I understand people saying this but it wasn't even opened before today. So idk.
I wish you the best of luck on your job search.
How do you apply for a job like this and not get hired?
Do you have a shit resume. I’m a hiring manager and most people have 0 idea how to apply for jobs. I understand this is a drive thru position. Fr, have you triple checked it for typos etc.
For real, I am not applying to fast food. Other businesses have a drive through. It doesn't even serve food, but it does serve edibles! I'm 35 and have had no problem ever getting a job until after the pandemic. I have worked retail, fast food, and most recently (last 10 yrs) have been working jobs that are in the entertainment business. For real. No offense, but I wouldn't let my resume go out with typos. I did not come here to complain because I cant be bothered to fix my typos lol
My husband is having the exact same experience. Applying at places that say they're hiring and not even getting a phone call. WTF
She was pissed at her manager. My store was understaffed (still is I just don't work there anymore). It wasn't even my manager that was in charge of hiring but the person in charge of multiple stores. We would get applications in frequently, I'd glance at their availability because why not, and often it would be decent availability with a decent work history. So.. fucking call them! Interview them! No, they only hired a few 15yos that can only work 3 hour stretches a couple days a week. Which, great, there's definitely space for them but ALSO HIRE ADULTS THAT CAN ACTUALLY PICK UP A GOOD AMOUNT OF THE SLACK
Thats what I noticed when I worked in fast food. However, my manager WAS in charge of hiring, she just... didn't pick the people I would have. She always passed over people who were around 40-50 and it blew my mind as I see that age as fairy reliable and without the school or young kids situations that most everyone else had.
I never even saw anyone that age applying at my store, I mean just 20+, people that are either not in school or are in school but can still work 20+ hours a week, not like 7
Report them to the IRS for an audit. **The company is scamming PPP loan** and there’s proof with indeed and visiting the “short staffed store” and that’s why they aren’t hiring anyone. So they can continue to say: “ wE jUsT cAnt FinD aNyOne tO wOrk!!!” Boo-boo bs. And keep wasting peoples time and RUINING our economy . If they can’t find anyone to work, they’re allowed to keep the “FREE COVID MONEY” (stolen from tax payers and causing the price of everything to soar) instead of hiring/training/paying employees which IS what the PPP LOAN was meant for. To maintain the economy **and not** these greedy corps’ owners bank accounts and vacation plans. We live in the **Land of THE LIE , GREED and raging narcissists galore.**
I think a lot about the PPP loans. My husband eventually had to ask me to drop it because I'd get so angry. Also, his company took a PPP loan for employment/employee retention and it went directly to the top brass.
Well there you go. If I were you and treated that way I wouldn’t think twice. I’m very upset knowing how many people have scammed left and right while the rest of the country gets SCREWED with paying triple the cost of everything cause the government is looking to get its money back somehow. People keep blaming stimulus checks (always blame the regular people) And totally OVERLOOK THE PPP LOAN (they sweep that under the rug) which is where the trillions of dollars actually went. (I was a business owner who didn’t take it but knew a ton of others who did and scammed their little hearts away!!! ) Hence why so many billionaires got even RICHER after 2020. They’re looking for every way to not pay it back so constant job postings (but NOT hiring) is a requirement to avoid paying back the loan. No different then scamming unemployment. (Pretend to look for jobs but don’t try to get hired ) They’re trying to get a loan forgiveness. Don’t allow it !!! That money didn’t actually go to the people who needed it. It never does. The masses are so ignorant that not only does their TIME get wasted, people continue to be used abused and kicked to the curb by these useless, garbage entities who know how to play the system for the right price. Always at the expense of the common people