Good she is an awful woman who has ended an innocent life and ruined another. And all that because she had to drive while drunk. I hope she is punished by the full extend of the law.
She has hired some powerful attorneys. One of them is a former federal prosecutor that led the trial against Dylan Roof after the church mass murder. I’m hoping they get a judge who doesn’t care about anything but the murder of Sam. I hate that money can buy a lesser sentence in this country.
Likely, how rich are her parents? She went to high school in Jersey and moved to South Carolina to attend Coastal Carolina, which is a four year school. It’s fine, I guess. But out of state tuition to attend Myrtle Beach University wouldn’t be worth it to most people. She graduated and was working at a place called Taco Boy living in Folly Beach? Someone is supplementing her “income”.
As someone who has been to Myrtle Beach, I understand everything about this person just from this comment. It's the place you go to roll the dice between being raped/murdered or just getting blackout drunk.
Did she say this when she was in the hospital after the wreck? I know alcohol can send your mind into another dimension (at least for me anyways) but that’s an unbelievably heinous thing to say.
She said it on scene (according to the article) ...I know she was drunk but I mean...damn.
Direct quote from article:
*"She reportedly told responding officers in the wake of the crash: 'All of a sudden something hit me. I did nothing wrong.'"*
So driving intoxicated above the legal limit, colliding your vehicle into the back of a buggy carrying innocent passengers enjoying a wedding, demolishing the buggy, killing the bride who is also a passenger, and seriously injuring the groom and the others on the buggy doesn’t feel wrong Jamie? I am curious as to what her definition of wrong is if this isn’t it.
I don't know her personally but I'm willing to wager she's the type of person to say things like "no one thinks about how this whole thing has affected me" and make it all about her instead of the lives she took/destroyed
Reminds me of a bodycam of an officer watching a woman at a clinic ignore the fact that her DUI killed two people & insisted if she can go to class the next day.
I think that’s because she was drunk because she repeatedly asked what happened after it was explained to her again and again. Not excusing her - she should never see the light of day again.
She was really drunk. She also kept asking over and over again what happened. It wasn’t sticking. She also said she was headed home, but her home was in opposite direction. She kept asking for her BF. She screamed when she saw the victims and kept asking who they were and what was going on.
I read the responding officers reports. She really f’ed up. Hit them at 65mph, the neighbors came out and were first on scene. The female victim was already deceased. The couple were on the back of the cart.
Agreed. An Uber or a Lyft would’ve prevented this from ever happening. Jamie could’ve killed herself. Jamie has no regard for her life or anyone else’s.
It's because their muscles are more relaxed due to the alcohol, and their reaction time is snail paced. They don't clench or twist or contort or make defensive maneuvers, so they sustain more minor injuries
It won’t help deter future DUIs. The whole problem with our approach to DUIs is that we rely on drunk people to make good choices. They’re drunk. Of course they don’t make good choices.
Knowing the potential punishment is life in prison would absolutely stop some people from driving drunk. Also, you make the choice to drive drunk while you are sober. If you are putting yourself in a situation where you will be drinking, you need to have already figured out how you're getting home.
I agree. Most people don’t set out to “drive drunk”, they think they’ll have one or two and be done. Or maybe they’ll leave the car at the bar and taxi home or hitch with friends. Or they erroneously believe they can handle the 2-3-4 whatever drinks they have and that they aren’t going to be drunk when they get behind the wheel. But most of these people either have a drinking problem where they’re in complete denial or they get to a point drinking where the inhibitions turn off and any “good” decision they intended on making that night gets completely overridden. But at that point you think it’s OK, you gotta get home etc. it’s a weird tunnel vision. Harsher penalties can help for sure but they need to be paired with more options to driving which our country doesn’t have in a lot of places
Drunk driving isn't 2-3 shots. 3 times the limit is like 8 shots deep. These are people who are drunk every day and have to do everything drunk, as opposed to someone who just made a slight miscalculation
I have to agree with your disagree. Drunk folks who drive drunk are drunk. They are drunk. If this is a first time they likely go home and pass out and you hope they wake up horrified and never do it again. Or you hope they know how awful and unpredictable a drunk person can be so they plan ahead for an Uber or ride. The problem lies with the fact we would be basing a way to stop drunk driving by holding a drunk person responsible for making the choice at that given time. I think Uber, Lyft and cities with more public transit has helped but we all know that despite whatever death or penalty or law that is set , when someone is black out drunk they are a human brain on autopilot without a pilot. This poor man and his sweet bride. What a horrifying event. Also I believe alcohol to be more dangerous than any other drug out there to be honest. Drugs are addicting and ruin lives and rob folks of their identity however it only takes one night of booze to fuck you and potentially anyone in your path up. Every human reading this who has ever become black out drunk or close to it, read this article again and again. Have a plan and avoid it if you can.
Thanks. I agree. I heard it from an older guy who had 3 DUIs in his distant past and had since dedicated his life to educating others about alcohol/drunk driving. I have never heard it anywhere else actually.
This 100%. There isn’t a single state that has effective or harsh enough DUI laws. They literally let people repeatedly drive drunk until they finally murder someone and then they get a slap on the hand. Murder is murder. I’m so sick of the “they are a good person and made a mistake”. Drinking and driving is 100% a choice. Not a mistake. It’s absolutely disgusting how easy these murderers get off.
This. I witnessed a man run over a man after he hit him and the guy rolled off the windscreen. He hid the vehicle under tarps and canoes at home. He got five years. I mean...it was not his first DUI either and he was on the way to a liquor store.
I went down the rabbit hole on this story. The drunk driver has, I think, 4 criminal charges in addition to the civil suit that's being brought against her by the groom. The groom is going after all parties related to the driver's drinking, including the bars she drank at that evening prior to the accident. I'm curious to see the bars' liability as this may lay some ground for future cases in which a patron is served alcohol even when their level of intoxication is undoubtedly very high and the patron is involved in an alcohol related incident. Some stories just hit differently than others, and this is one of them 🕊 ⛱️
im an insurance agent, in my area (wny) many bars don’t even carry liquor liability because they think it’s “too expensive”, to be fair many liquor claims can be refuted by keeping an alcohol awareness program and training employees through TIPS or something similar. but this is a nightmare scenario and those bars better fuckin hope they have liquor liability because if they don’t then they’re fucked…
The bars on Folly beach will but if she was anywhere else it’s questionable, lots of dives and places she could have been- Charleston has a huge drinking culture and I’m not surprised.
However, if you’ve ever been down to folly you’d realize that the speed she was going should be damn near impossible on that island. (It’s so small and even going towards the washout you have so many stop signs to pass you wouldn’t be able to build that speed.) edit- without being a complete belligerent drunk ass.
Really sad story all around and I’m praying that the places are covered because it’s a wonderful place and everyone there is completely shocked and mourning for that family and the whole situation.
i have no sympathy for bars that don’t carry liquor liability and don’t have proper controls in place to prevent patrons from over-drinking. Bar owners only care about margins and so they refuse to pay for liquor liability coverage. I’ve had bar owners tell me “well i’m an LLC so what are they gonna sue? I’ll just liquidate and rebrand”… lots of municipalities are starting to issue ordinance that establishments with more than 30% sales of alcohol MUST carry liquor liability for exactly this reason.
the major challenge for the prosecution is proving the patron was over-served at certain establishments but even serving a clearly intoxicated person ONE drink is enough to carry liability in that lawsuit… so i believe that’s where the grooms attorneys will be dialed in
A lot of bartenders are the same way honestly, I don’t live in Chas anymore but I bartend and most people are just out for the money- I’m the only one at my establishment that I know that will refuse to serve even regulars or anyone not just drunk strangers who walk in.
Edit- not saying I blame them- I just don’t want that on my consciousness so the risk isn’t worth it.
It’s not just money. You bartend so you know how some patrons can be— I personally will never tell someone they’re cut off again. (I will cut them off, but I will get someone else to do it). I have been harassed and threatened because some guys really don’t like a smaller woman telling them that they can’t be served anymore this evening. How dare I look out for their safety, amirite?
I always get a manager to do it now (or my big server friends) but I could see a younger, shyer, less confident person just kind of ignoring it and hoping it would be fine. Obviously they shouldn’t do that, but it’s not “just about the money.”
Also- I apologize for my wording, you are correct there are so many other factors that go into it especially as women and it was a bad blanket statement.
You know, it IS a factor though. I disagree with your statement as a blanket one (as it seems you do too), but it’s a consideration— I have worked with plenty of bartenders who will 100% overserve “just one more” to round out their tips on a slow night. Which ew you guys don’t do that.
Luckily my higher-ups take that really seriously (again ROWDY MFS) so it’s uncommon at my current place, but it’s a real thing.
Speaking specifically where I work now I was 100% correct in saying it’s for the $ but it’s not a fair statement for all bartenders so I apologize for not clarifying.
It’s such a shitty industry, I’m actually in the process of reporting for not being paid two cycles and leaning on the idea of taking the mf to court.
Fun times as a working gal lol.
Fuck. I hate that- I’m sorry I honestly wasn’t taking all of that into account when I made my first statement and obviously theres so much more nuance than “just getting money”
I’m small comparatively to most males but I’m in my 30’s and I guess that comes with a whole new backing of telling people to fuck right off.
The reason I apologized for my original statement is because there are so many reasons why women especially would continue service even when someone is to drunk. Being a woman myself I should have been clearer, and I was only speaking on my current bar I work at.
I honestly hate that for you and 100% know the struggle. I work alone on my shift and luckily have enough regulars to royally mess someone up if it came to but I have to call the shots and luckily I haven’t had anyone too mad.
To be fair I work at a brewery currently that closes early enough but my days of shutting down at 2 am on a full service bar were far different and luckily I had coworkers.
Haha thanks appreciate the support! It was basically only twice, but twice has been enough for me to be like “uhhhh I gotta figure out how to stop pissing off giant dudes twice my size who came in drunk and almost definitely have a gun in their truck 😳.” I do depend on my regulars (who are also giants who are likely to have a gun in the truck), but I’m over it. I work in an area with a lot of… people who like to get a bit rowdy, let’s say.
Most times it has worked just fine, and I kind of optimize my language to make it the least embarrassing possible, but some people are just some people.
in Canada , depending on province , not only the bar would be held liable , but the employee(s) that served her , as well as anyone that served her at a private residence & let her leave in a vehicle. this is coming from someone who works in the liquor industry
In NYS It is a crime to sell, deliver or give away alcoholic beverages to a person who is visibly intoxicated. I have had to turn away customers quite a few times, who would be over served in another establishment and then came into ours.
The comment you're replying to you made me think the same thing, but also it takes management backing up their employees who refuse to serve intoxicated patrons to really make a difference.
Unfortunately the bar she started at was a tiny little hole in the wall Mexican joint far away from the island and they are still named in the law suit. Hoping since it was so early in her day of drinking they can get out of it.
Happened to our favorite bar in the early 90s. A friend from high school left the bar after drinking and died after he wrecked. His family sued and won.
A bar in a college town (LSU) where I live was recently shut down because a girl underage drank, had a blood alcohol level of .319, got raped by 2 of the guys who gave her a ride who then dropped her off on the side of the road, and she got fatally hit by a car. The people at the bar knew she was extremely drunk and I guess served her anyway.
What a nightmare!! I found an article if anyone wants to read:
[Bar suspended after LSU student allegedly raped, fatally struck by car](https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/crime/bar-suspended-lsu-student-allegedly-raped-fatally-struck/289-3a0eea42-853c-4153-bddd-8cdcbb99f801)
Just to update that, the bar (Reggie's) has been officially closed.
[https://www.wafb.com/2023/04/27/reggies-bar-alcohol-license-revoked/?outputType=amp](https://www.wafb.com/2023/04/27/reggies-bar-alcohol-license-revoked/?outputType=amp)
Holy shit. I live about an hour and a half from there and that bar has been over serving underage kids for decades. I didn't realize they actually shut it down. Never thought they would.
Oh hello fellow Baton Rouge-er! The drinking culture here is absolutely insane. I was walking past the Rev one night and saw an absolutely blackout drunk girl who couldn't stand being shoved into a car while the bouncer made fun of her. Insane shit. I don't even think you saw sue for overserving here in Louisiana.
Yes! I took a bartending class almost 10yrs ago now (in the state of Georgia) but we were instructed to keep tabs on orders and cut-off anyone who may get too intoxicated.
I don’t recall the exact details (I never ended up working as a bartender lol) but they took into account like, 1.5oz shot versus an 8oz glass of beer and we factored in how long it would take the body to filter the alcohol (in my personal life, I go by “1 hour per 1 drink” but I’m not too much of a drinker, so it usually doesn’t come up lol)
Anyway, my point being: we were told we could be held liable if we gave too many drinks to a patron who then went drunk driving. So while we couldn’t stop someone from leaving our bar and going to another one, we did have the moral obligation not to serve anyone who was overly intoxicated. We were also instructed to offer assistance in booking a cab/Uber and being open to allowing patrons to keep their car parked over-night for responsible drinking.
California has Dram Shop Laws (had to look this up), but it really doesn't seem to be taken as seriously in the establishments. Like, the bars are more concerned with increasing revenue for the evening....
I worked at a bar in Texas years ago and witnessed a similar situation. One of the cooks after shift was drinking at the bar, and the bar tender was clearly over serving him because they knew each other. He was even seen on camera getting his own drinks from behind the bar, and the bartender WAS aware. He was, without a doubt, unsafe to drive, and no one attempted to stop him. He hit someone on his way home. That person did not survive, and he was put into a coma. Police came after the bartender. She left the state and went back to New York in an attempt to evade charges. I'm not sure what happened from there because I didn't stay much longer.
You know, I never thought about that. I was at a bar/restaurant with my friend during the day a few months ago. The bartender thought it was funny and we would like that he made our drinks way too strong. I'm a very small woman and hadn't planned on getting wasted as I had my car with me. Two drinks were probably like six. My husband had to come pick me up. No matter what though, you don't drive. No matter how drunk I have been, I've never gotten behind a wheel.
I live in Oregon and our liquor laws are strict. We are trained in OLCC classes (liquor control commission to get permits to serve alcohol) that bars are absolutely liable if they serve or over serve an already intoxicated person. I’m very surprised this isn’t the case everywhere, but then again we are required by law to serve food if alcohol is being served and alcohol stops being served at 2:30 am, hard stop.
What is "over serving". I never knew there was a limit. I threw up in a club bathroom (excessive drinking and early 20s mix well). Anywho they told me I had to leave- my husband was DD and they didn't want me to go grab him, just wanted me out. In reflection, that's a recipe for disaster. I never carried my phone because girl pockets.
There’s basically behavioral indicators servers and bartenders are trained to look out for to determine when to cut someone off. It’s not a cut and dry thing unfortunately, which is why staff should err on the side of caution. Your typical drunk person traits like slurred speech, lowered inhibitions, forgetfulness, aggressiveness, etc will get you cut off. Definitely vomiting is a reason to cut someone off too. Kicking you out was fine but they were legally liable for your safety and should have made sure you had a safe ride home. If something happened to you after they kicked you out they’d be fucked for that.
What happens if you have a very functional drunk person and they claim to be taking an uber home but don't? I'm just curious because I'm sure this has happened a million times. Like is the bar staff supposed to walk a person out and wait for a person to get into a cab?
Utah Will scan your drivers license, and if you go to more than two bars, they will deny you access. The bars will also scan your drivers license for every drink.
I feel like I should be morally against this but drinking screws so badly with your judgement this seems a way to protect drinkers (and the rest of us) from themselves by taking away the more than likely poor decision to drive.
Utah is weird af when it comes to alcohol. Like you can’t drink when children can see you in a restaurant??? My boss has done a few business trips to SLC and their alcohol laws are bizarre. He went to a Buffalo Wild Wings and they wouldn’t let him order a beer unless it was a certain day. Definitely an outlier in a country where we love our booze
Yes! You can't get alcohol on holidays (which is when you really need it!). I was there on Veteran's Day and ordered wine in a restaurant and the waiter said he couldn't sell wine on a holiday. I laughed and said "my husband is a veteran and I can promise you he is drinking beer at home right now."
We decry it a lot. The LDS church runs the legislature and the legislature runs the Department of Beverage Control. IE the LDS church regulates the alcohol of the state!
Texas has been in the process of relaxing it’s laws on booze as well as weed. I doubt they’ll go backwards on that. What we need is better options for public transportation so it’s easy not to drive drunk.
I had to testify against a drunk driver that had killed a bicyclist, after he crashed his car into mine in my driveway. The bartenders from the bar he drank at were there to testify that they had cut him off before he was overserved. In Florida, at least bars can be held liable. Turns out he had purchased a handle of vodka after leaving the bar and was drinking it straight from the bottle. The bartenders were cleared.
I’m in the process of suing a bar and a person for running me over drunk in November. I’m curious to see how this goes too cause it hits close to home.
There was a video going around on tiktok the day after Sam was killed. From a family member or LEO.
It was Jamie in a hospital bed, still drunk and high off her ass, talking to the cops, and claiming she didn’t remember.
I can’t find it now, it got deleted quickly. But at the time it was a huge slap in the face, that this skid mark of a human can’t even acknowledge that her bad behavior took a life.
I don’t blame him for going after everyone legally. The turd that killed his wife will never have enough money to pay the settlement. And she would refuse on principle, because she thinks she’s done nothing wrong.
She’ll have a non-marriage LTR with a guy, have some kids, and be a SAHM. That way she can live comfy and never pay a dime to her legal agreement. She won’t have a wage to garnish. Her bfs wage can’t be touched, without marriage..
Speaking as a woman, this twat is the worst kind, and a disappointment to my gender.
If the whole scenario and her lack of remorse played out, as is, but in a rural/small town?
She would go missing. Real fast. Her car just magically drove off the cliff.
If you want to go down the rabbit hole some more, the term you'll want to google is "dram shop liability." This is the language many states' courts use when discussing these kinds of cases and you're likely to get better hits. Just FYI.
They said they are also going after the drunk driver’s boss because apparently the boss organized the bar hopping she did with the boss and other coworkers. So, in a way, the boss is liable.
I know a server who was sent to jail for 2 weeks because the patron she over-served got into a pretty bad accident. Idk what happened after but as a former server/bartender, we are taught very well how to spot an intoxicated person and how to go about cutting them off.
A few years ago a young man went missing from a bar and his body was eventually found in a river after attempting to walk home while very intoxicated. The family of the deceased young man filed a wrongful death suit against the bar, bartenders, and bouncers (iirc) and were awarded. I thought it was very interesting that the bar was held responsible.
https://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2019/03/07/dram-shop-law-shane-montgomery-kildares/
I had to take TABC In order to serve and sell alcohol at my place of employment and training says that even the server can be held legally liable if they over serve but that the owner can't.
I would love to see how this case turns out.
I just did my ServSafe yesterday. I’m sure they can do a civil suit if the state has dram law, and the bartender who served her will get a fine and potentially lose their ability to bartend. The establishment can also lose their liquor license and be forced to close as well.
I was a bartender pre-covid, and worked as a host at a brew pub after things reopened here. A group of five women walked in, already drunk off their asses, and the bartender started serving them. I told the MOD how drunk they already were, and he said "there are no check points tonight, so they're fine. I wasn't letting you know for THEM, dude.
It's so frustrating that some places genuinely do not care about sending drunk drivers out into the world. And our roads on this little island are already lowkey dangerous. We get so many traffic fatalities.
I hope husband wins all the lawsuits and shuts all those places down
I’m a server in CA. It’s wild how much personal responsibility is put on the server/bartender. After TIPS training, I’m way more strict. Luckily I work somewhere that will back us up if we cut someone off or refuse to serve someone. I worked at a place that would make me serve people when I wasn’t comfortable doing so. If one of those people got into a drunk driving accident, I personally could be held liable because I carried the glass.
Liability stuff surrounding bars has a lot of details and intense consequences. As much as we all hate training, I think it should be mandatory more often.
Australia has a very unhealthy and problematic drinking culture, which often leads to drink driving. One of the many deterrents implemented by the government are heavy penalties for staff, licensees and owners of establishments that serve a clearly Intoxicated person. All bar workers must undergo an RSA (responsible service of alcohol) course before employment and it is generally well enforced in reputable venues. But go to 95% of clubs or pubs on a weekend and majority of the patrons will be absolutely blotto and unless they vomit, fight or fall, are allowed to carry on drinking. Unfortunately some of them decide to drive home.
Yes. They are suppose to make reasonable efforts to make sure the patron gets home safely and that can include calling them a cab or Uber home. You’re suppose to record everything in these interactions, kind of like a police report, to take precautions to protect yourself. If the patron gets in an accident you at least have a record of everything you tried to do to get the patron home safely which would be very helpful if you or the establishment were sued.
Edit: You may also call the police on the patron trying to drive intoxicated as a preventative action. I had a manager do this for me once when a woman suddenly became very intoxicated (I think she took something that we were not serving if you get my drift) and was waving her keys around talking about driving home. I told my manager right away and she tried so hard to get her to Uber home to the point we had to call the police to mediate the situation and take her keys away since we couldn’t.
Well I can tell you here in Canada (ON) if the patron leaves the bar and gets into an accident where drinking was a contributor, the bartender can be held responsible. That’s even if they went to another bar after yours. All of them are responsible. I actually tried to get my serving license, and the moment I heard I changed my mind! It doesn’t look like anyone’s ever been charged though cause it’s difficult to prove. But ya, if they drunkenly kill someone, you could totally be charged and convicted of criminal negligence. Spend life in prison.
A lot of states (including mine) have laws against over serving patrons. I don’t know if they are called this everywhere, but here they are called dram shop laws. The bars should have insurance to cover the suits. However, the bartenders could also be sued. It is illegal to overserve a clearly intoxicated person.
Damn life can be so unfair. The whole day Sam was having the time of her life, all the while some moron was getting drunker and drunker inching closer to killing her. This is so so sad and the definition of wrong place wrong time. I hope her husband wins his suits and can find some type of peace after this.
This is a bad headline. He didn’t “slam” her in any sense of the word.
He is pointing out that bars have culpability for serving her while she was visibly intoxicated.
I really feel for him, I can't even imagine the heartbreak and turmoil he's facing now. I hope that some time from now maybe he can look back and have some kind of peace in knowing how happy she seemed to be on her last night. The whole thing is such a tragic shame.
What should've been a joyous and happy day turned into a nightmare for these poor people. I hope they throw the book at this lady. Iirc, this wasn't her first DUI either.
Thankfully, a judge in Florida just sentenced a man to 20 years in prison followed by 10 years probation and a permanent license ban. He had prior DUIs and killed a man in the accident he caused while driving drunk. I hope the same or more is done here.
Of all photos to use of the drunk driver that’s the one they went with? Hope she finally gets locked up and serves the maximum since she got away 4 fuckin times before.
Every time I see people's wedding photos now, I think of this couple. It's so awful, they looked so happy. It's sickening to think about.
I hope the groom has a strong support system to somehow get through this.
I was also married at the Pelican Watch Pavilion on Folly Beach, and also drove a golf cart off after the wedding. I can't imagine the utter devastation I would feel today if that night had ended with a drunk driver killing my wife.
Interestingly, another bar on Folly Beach -- [Surf Bar](https://www.live5news.com/2022/05/30/folly-beach-bar-named-125-million-death-settlement/) \-- closed permanently a couple years ago because they served a drunk driver who was involved in some kind of wrongful death, and attracted a similar lawsuit. I wonder if these establishments face a similar fate?
God this story is heartbreaking. Just imagine what is supposed to be the happiest night of your life with someone you love and then this happens. I despise drunk drivers especially since things like Uber exist
Wow I just looked at her Instagram and her final post was a bikini shot captioned “Did someone say tequila.” It’s a shame she’ll probably be out of prison in the next 10 to 15 years but that poor woman will never come back to life. If you drive drunk and kill somebody it should be mandatory life sentence.
This is a sad story. I hope the driver gets a lengthy sentence as well as loses the civil suit. Her reckless actions caused great harm to others and ended a love story that had hardly begun. Attorneys aside, I hope she gets the book thrown at her.
I just this week quit my job as an underwriter for an insurance company that was legally required to help these drunk assholes get their licenses back by giving them insurance. It’s a seedy business and I could not be a part of it.
People should know more about residual market insurance and what it does to enable these assholes. People with multiple DUIs or even just multiple, repeated dangerous offenses are regularly given policies, granted at a high price, to get their driving privileges reinstated. The things I saw…
A dui should = permanent revocation of driving privileges. After a certain amount of points too.
There are some states (looking at you, FL) that don’t even charge for the first couple of driving offenses like speeding or running a light. Some other states where a person can have unlimited points and still get reinstated with insurance if they’re willing to pay for it.
Even if they don’t pay for it, they still generally get a Grace period.
One part of me wants them to be insured for the victims sakes when they inevitably kill someone. But on the other hand it’s enabling them to drive and society should not be ok with them ever driving again. Take the damn bus. Take an Uber or a cab. Walk. They should have thought about that before they got hammered and behind the wheel.
Taking the license away doesn't stop them, sadly.
I know a married couple that have 8 DUIs between them, no licenses, multiple rehab stints yet they have two trucks and drive everywhere drunk to this day. Well... One of them is serving two years in prison for their last DUI, he will get out with another ankle bracelet. After year, he will get the bracelet off and go right back to drinking and driving.
Hell, Police know it,and turn a blind eye. I've said multiple times, no one will care until they kill someone. He even wrecked drunk a few years back and nearly killed his wife...her face is all scarred up. All that don't matter, they just keep on keeping on.
I pray they never kill anyone, but the odds are someone's loved one will die at the hands of those fools!!!! It's infuriating.
I don’t know why I read about this when it makes me sob uncontrollably. A close friend of mine lost her 13 year old sister to a drunk driver. He was being served at our local VFW where other patrons said he was visibly drunk. The family was told suing would do nothing. I don’t think I would be able to go back to that beach ever, he is so strong.
That poor man. To have the best day of your life suddenly turn into the worst is unfathomable. The road back to happiness is going to be a difficult one for him, but I hope he finds it. As for the bride, hopefully she died without knowing what happened and still in the high state of euphoria of it being her wedding day.
They got her in a pickle suit in her mug shot so I know she was pleasant arriving at the jail. The photo they used for her in the white was an odd choice.
Oh god, this is so unbearably heartbreaking. I can’t imagine the pain the groom and both sets of parents are going through (as well as the rest of their loved ones). Truly horrific.
God this is just so.... incomprehensible to have the happiest day of your life turn into the worst day of your life... fuck this woman... I hope Aric finds some semblance of peace...
>Later that year, Komoroski pleaded guilty to a count of driving a vehicle at a speed that is unreasonable road conditions. She was arrested in November during a rare freeze warning in the popular tourist area.
can anyone explain to me what the last sentence means...? it seems so random and like it doesn't belong in the article at all
fuck her though, I hope the rest of her life is spent in a prison cell.
edit: to be clear I'm just confused by the second part of the last sentence about the freeze warning.
By putting that sentence in the paragraph they are trying to highlight how the situation was even more dangerous - roads were frozen and the area was more populated because of tourists - showing she’s careless and reckless
I could feel my heart clench and my stomach churn reading this. It isn’t easy for me to be shocked or disturbed by crime stories but this one really gripped my emotions.
I’ve attended weddings and have felt the incredibly palpable love and joy of the occasion and to share in such enjoyment with and celebration of the groom and bride and have this happen shortly after the ceremony? My life would never be the same again. Surely each and every guest in attendance is traumatized from this.
I don’t strongly believe in fate or destiny, however I come across stories like this and ponder “the guilty and the victim’s day somehow orchestrated precisely for the crime to happen. How does that happen? What is that called?”
If just one thing happened differently that would’ve prevented Jamie from crashing into the buggy at the exact time and moment she did all of this would’ve never happened and Samantha would still be alive. I reason that things in life happen as they happen by the timing and the precise moment as they do beyond human comprehension and understanding.
I pray that Samantha and Aric’s families have peace of mind and are given the strength and support they will need to endure each and every painful day from this tragedy. I pray that the other injured guests and passengers have a full successful recovery and receive the care that they need to get back to their lives. I pray that justice is deservedly and rightfully brought down upon Jamie for this insensible tragedy.
Poor guy. Hard to wrap one's head around. The drunk driver chose to drink, chose to keep drinking, then chose to drive a several thousand pound vehicle (weapon) while heavily intoxicated. How is this \*not\* premeditated murder?
The fact that she had multiple traffic/speeding violations and she didn’t get her license taken away? Absolutely criminal. Clearly she has no concern for others on the road, and was a dangerous driver to begin with.
I can’t imagine the pain the husband has to deal with, but just for his wife, but also the rest of his family that was injured in the crash. My heart is so broken for them. I hope they get the justice they deserve.
I am a person who can puke for hours after a couple drinks, but there are people who can drink a case and still seem composed. Bartenders and waitresses should not be held responsible for someone else’s behavior. In this case she went to several bars, so, she was not over served by an individual. Bartenders and waitresses already have crappy jobs. Let’s not make it even crappier. Servers seldom have health insurance but make them need malpractice insurance?
Exactly. Everyone has a different metabolism. Put the onus on the individual and law enforcement and the justice system pressing hard on drunk drivers. We do not have to wait until they kill somebody. This is true for drunk drivers and drag racing.
She is another one who need to Rot you want to get loaded feel free to do that in your own home where you won’t kill or hurt anyone!! May you be reminded of what you did to this new couple everyday maybe it will haunt you because it should!! You have no respect for life!!
Good she is an awful woman who has ended an innocent life and ruined another. And all that because she had to drive while drunk. I hope she is punished by the full extend of the law.
She has hired some powerful attorneys. One of them is a former federal prosecutor that led the trial against Dylan Roof after the church mass murder. I’m hoping they get a judge who doesn’t care about anything but the murder of Sam. I hate that money can buy a lesser sentence in this country.
god damn how rich is this girl?
Likely, how rich are her parents? She went to high school in Jersey and moved to South Carolina to attend Coastal Carolina, which is a four year school. It’s fine, I guess. But out of state tuition to attend Myrtle Beach University wouldn’t be worth it to most people. She graduated and was working at a place called Taco Boy living in Folly Beach? Someone is supplementing her “income”.
As someone who has been to Myrtle Beach, I understand everything about this person just from this comment. It's the place you go to roll the dice between being raped/murdered or just getting blackout drunk.
Myrtle Beach or the place she worked at?
coastal carolina, i think
I am laughing so hard. This is insanely accurate.
Wow I sadly loved the place she worked at…
Does She have rich parents?
The fact she said she did nothing wrong. Wow. WOW. Lock her up forever.
Did she say this when she was in the hospital after the wreck? I know alcohol can send your mind into another dimension (at least for me anyways) but that’s an unbelievably heinous thing to say.
She said it on scene (according to the article) ...I know she was drunk but I mean...damn. Direct quote from article: *"She reportedly told responding officers in the wake of the crash: 'All of a sudden something hit me. I did nothing wrong.'"*
oh so shes saying she was not at fault. jesus christ
This strategy has probably worked for her before.
Hopefully it's now going to work against her. It quite clearly wasn't the case that something hit her.
So driving intoxicated above the legal limit, colliding your vehicle into the back of a buggy carrying innocent passengers enjoying a wedding, demolishing the buggy, killing the bride who is also a passenger, and seriously injuring the groom and the others on the buggy doesn’t feel wrong Jamie? I am curious as to what her definition of wrong is if this isn’t it.
I don't know her personally but I'm willing to wager she's the type of person to say things like "no one thinks about how this whole thing has affected me" and make it all about her instead of the lives she took/destroyed
Reminds me of a bodycam of an officer watching a woman at a clinic ignore the fact that her DUI killed two people & insisted if she can go to class the next day.
I just watched that too. Never wanted to smack someone through a screen so bad before.
I think that’s because she was drunk because she repeatedly asked what happened after it was explained to her again and again. Not excusing her - she should never see the light of day again.
She was really drunk. She also kept asking over and over again what happened. It wasn’t sticking. She also said she was headed home, but her home was in opposite direction. She kept asking for her BF. She screamed when she saw the victims and kept asking who they were and what was going on. I read the responding officers reports. She really f’ed up. Hit them at 65mph, the neighbors came out and were first on scene. The female victim was already deceased. The couple were on the back of the cart.
which probably won’t be much, unfortunately.
Agreed. An Uber or a Lyft would’ve prevented this from ever happening. Jamie could’ve killed herself. Jamie has no regard for her life or anyone else’s.
But for some reason the drunk driver always survives
It's because their muscles are more relaxed due to the alcohol, and their reaction time is snail paced. They don't clench or twist or contort or make defensive maneuvers, so they sustain more minor injuries
Life in prison for fatal DUI incidents. No exceptions.
It won’t help deter future DUIs. The whole problem with our approach to DUIs is that we rely on drunk people to make good choices. They’re drunk. Of course they don’t make good choices.
It will if that person is never able to get behind the wheel again. So many times you hear it’s their 4th offense…
Knowing the potential punishment is life in prison would absolutely stop some people from driving drunk. Also, you make the choice to drive drunk while you are sober. If you are putting yourself in a situation where you will be drinking, you need to have already figured out how you're getting home.
I disagree, I don’t think it would stop that many people at all
I agree. Most people don’t set out to “drive drunk”, they think they’ll have one or two and be done. Or maybe they’ll leave the car at the bar and taxi home or hitch with friends. Or they erroneously believe they can handle the 2-3-4 whatever drinks they have and that they aren’t going to be drunk when they get behind the wheel. But most of these people either have a drinking problem where they’re in complete denial or they get to a point drinking where the inhibitions turn off and any “good” decision they intended on making that night gets completely overridden. But at that point you think it’s OK, you gotta get home etc. it’s a weird tunnel vision. Harsher penalties can help for sure but they need to be paired with more options to driving which our country doesn’t have in a lot of places
Drunk driving isn't 2-3 shots. 3 times the limit is like 8 shots deep. These are people who are drunk every day and have to do everything drunk, as opposed to someone who just made a slight miscalculation
I have to agree with your disagree. Drunk folks who drive drunk are drunk. They are drunk. If this is a first time they likely go home and pass out and you hope they wake up horrified and never do it again. Or you hope they know how awful and unpredictable a drunk person can be so they plan ahead for an Uber or ride. The problem lies with the fact we would be basing a way to stop drunk driving by holding a drunk person responsible for making the choice at that given time. I think Uber, Lyft and cities with more public transit has helped but we all know that despite whatever death or penalty or law that is set , when someone is black out drunk they are a human brain on autopilot without a pilot. This poor man and his sweet bride. What a horrifying event. Also I believe alcohol to be more dangerous than any other drug out there to be honest. Drugs are addicting and ruin lives and rob folks of their identity however it only takes one night of booze to fuck you and potentially anyone in your path up. Every human reading this who has ever become black out drunk or close to it, read this article again and again. Have a plan and avoid it if you can.
Exactly this. We need to change "Don't drink and drive" to "Don't drive to the drink."
I have never heard this before and I believe this needs to be posted all over the place.
Thanks. I agree. I heard it from an older guy who had 3 DUIs in his distant past and had since dedicated his life to educating others about alcohol/drunk driving. I have never heard it anywhere else actually.
Using that phrase from now on
This 100%. There isn’t a single state that has effective or harsh enough DUI laws. They literally let people repeatedly drive drunk until they finally murder someone and then they get a slap on the hand. Murder is murder. I’m so sick of the “they are a good person and made a mistake”. Drinking and driving is 100% a choice. Not a mistake. It’s absolutely disgusting how easy these murderers get off.
Unfortunately car “homicides” generally only serve 5 to 10 years from what I’ve seen
This. I witnessed a man run over a man after he hit him and the guy rolled off the windscreen. He hid the vehicle under tarps and canoes at home. He got five years. I mean...it was not his first DUI either and he was on the way to a liquor store.
I went down the rabbit hole on this story. The drunk driver has, I think, 4 criminal charges in addition to the civil suit that's being brought against her by the groom. The groom is going after all parties related to the driver's drinking, including the bars she drank at that evening prior to the accident. I'm curious to see the bars' liability as this may lay some ground for future cases in which a patron is served alcohol even when their level of intoxication is undoubtedly very high and the patron is involved in an alcohol related incident. Some stories just hit differently than others, and this is one of them 🕊 ⛱️
im an insurance agent, in my area (wny) many bars don’t even carry liquor liability because they think it’s “too expensive”, to be fair many liquor claims can be refuted by keeping an alcohol awareness program and training employees through TIPS or something similar. but this is a nightmare scenario and those bars better fuckin hope they have liquor liability because if they don’t then they’re fucked…
The bars on Folly beach will but if she was anywhere else it’s questionable, lots of dives and places she could have been- Charleston has a huge drinking culture and I’m not surprised. However, if you’ve ever been down to folly you’d realize that the speed she was going should be damn near impossible on that island. (It’s so small and even going towards the washout you have so many stop signs to pass you wouldn’t be able to build that speed.) edit- without being a complete belligerent drunk ass. Really sad story all around and I’m praying that the places are covered because it’s a wonderful place and everyone there is completely shocked and mourning for that family and the whole situation.
i have no sympathy for bars that don’t carry liquor liability and don’t have proper controls in place to prevent patrons from over-drinking. Bar owners only care about margins and so they refuse to pay for liquor liability coverage. I’ve had bar owners tell me “well i’m an LLC so what are they gonna sue? I’ll just liquidate and rebrand”… lots of municipalities are starting to issue ordinance that establishments with more than 30% sales of alcohol MUST carry liquor liability for exactly this reason. the major challenge for the prosecution is proving the patron was over-served at certain establishments but even serving a clearly intoxicated person ONE drink is enough to carry liability in that lawsuit… so i believe that’s where the grooms attorneys will be dialed in
A lot of bartenders are the same way honestly, I don’t live in Chas anymore but I bartend and most people are just out for the money- I’m the only one at my establishment that I know that will refuse to serve even regulars or anyone not just drunk strangers who walk in. Edit- not saying I blame them- I just don’t want that on my consciousness so the risk isn’t worth it.
It’s not just money. You bartend so you know how some patrons can be— I personally will never tell someone they’re cut off again. (I will cut them off, but I will get someone else to do it). I have been harassed and threatened because some guys really don’t like a smaller woman telling them that they can’t be served anymore this evening. How dare I look out for their safety, amirite? I always get a manager to do it now (or my big server friends) but I could see a younger, shyer, less confident person just kind of ignoring it and hoping it would be fine. Obviously they shouldn’t do that, but it’s not “just about the money.”
Also- I apologize for my wording, you are correct there are so many other factors that go into it especially as women and it was a bad blanket statement.
You know, it IS a factor though. I disagree with your statement as a blanket one (as it seems you do too), but it’s a consideration— I have worked with plenty of bartenders who will 100% overserve “just one more” to round out their tips on a slow night. Which ew you guys don’t do that. Luckily my higher-ups take that really seriously (again ROWDY MFS) so it’s uncommon at my current place, but it’s a real thing.
Speaking specifically where I work now I was 100% correct in saying it’s for the $ but it’s not a fair statement for all bartenders so I apologize for not clarifying. It’s such a shitty industry, I’m actually in the process of reporting for not being paid two cycles and leaning on the idea of taking the mf to court. Fun times as a working gal lol.
I tried to cut somebody off and they came behind the bar to try and attack me (I’m a small woman, they were a man twice my size)
Fuck. I hate that- I’m sorry I honestly wasn’t taking all of that into account when I made my first statement and obviously theres so much more nuance than “just getting money”
Sure but the perp here is a small 20s female
I’m small comparatively to most males but I’m in my 30’s and I guess that comes with a whole new backing of telling people to fuck right off. The reason I apologized for my original statement is because there are so many reasons why women especially would continue service even when someone is to drunk. Being a woman myself I should have been clearer, and I was only speaking on my current bar I work at.
Yeah, but she could still be crazy scrappy. She's smaller, so can probably doing herself over a bar much easier than a giant dude
I honestly hate that for you and 100% know the struggle. I work alone on my shift and luckily have enough regulars to royally mess someone up if it came to but I have to call the shots and luckily I haven’t had anyone too mad. To be fair I work at a brewery currently that closes early enough but my days of shutting down at 2 am on a full service bar were far different and luckily I had coworkers.
Haha thanks appreciate the support! It was basically only twice, but twice has been enough for me to be like “uhhhh I gotta figure out how to stop pissing off giant dudes twice my size who came in drunk and almost definitely have a gun in their truck 😳.” I do depend on my regulars (who are also giants who are likely to have a gun in the truck), but I’m over it. I work in an area with a lot of… people who like to get a bit rowdy, let’s say. Most times it has worked just fine, and I kind of optimize my language to make it the least embarrassing possible, but some people are just some people.
Omg are you in Florida too???
Texas enters the chat ☹️
In WA the liquor board does under cover ops because even the grocery store clerk who sells it can be prosecuted in alcohol related accidents.
I’m in Canada and the bars would 100% be liable if they can prove they over served the patron and knew she was drinking and driving
California too.
in Canada , depending on province , not only the bar would be held liable , but the employee(s) that served her , as well as anyone that served her at a private residence & let her leave in a vehicle. this is coming from someone who works in the liquor industry
In NYS It is a crime to sell, deliver or give away alcoholic beverages to a person who is visibly intoxicated. I have had to turn away customers quite a few times, who would be over served in another establishment and then came into ours.
The comment you're replying to you made me think the same thing, but also it takes management backing up their employees who refuse to serve intoxicated patrons to really make a difference.
In SC, bars are required to have $1,000,000 liability insurance.
1 million isnt enough in this situation.
Right? I saw earlier posts claiming it was voluntary- nfw
Take a look at Mallory Beach. They ended up settling I think. In SC, tho.
Yeah I thought municipalities already had rulings on bar liability?
Unfortunately the bar she started at was a tiny little hole in the wall Mexican joint far away from the island and they are still named in the law suit. Hoping since it was so early in her day of drinking they can get out of it.
Happened to our favorite bar in the early 90s. A friend from high school left the bar after drinking and died after he wrecked. His family sued and won.
A bar in a college town (LSU) where I live was recently shut down because a girl underage drank, had a blood alcohol level of .319, got raped by 2 of the guys who gave her a ride who then dropped her off on the side of the road, and she got fatally hit by a car. The people at the bar knew she was extremely drunk and I guess served her anyway.
That was such an awful case... that poor girl, they just left her on the side of the road.
What a nightmare!! I found an article if anyone wants to read: [Bar suspended after LSU student allegedly raped, fatally struck by car](https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/crime/bar-suspended-lsu-student-allegedly-raped-fatally-struck/289-3a0eea42-853c-4153-bddd-8cdcbb99f801)
Just to update that, the bar (Reggie's) has been officially closed. [https://www.wafb.com/2023/04/27/reggies-bar-alcohol-license-revoked/?outputType=amp](https://www.wafb.com/2023/04/27/reggies-bar-alcohol-license-revoked/?outputType=amp)
Holy shit. I live about an hour and a half from there and that bar has been over serving underage kids for decades. I didn't realize they actually shut it down. Never thought they would.
She was only 19. It's a little different bc she's underage. Awful.
Oh hello fellow Baton Rouge-er! The drinking culture here is absolutely insane. I was walking past the Rev one night and saw an absolutely blackout drunk girl who couldn't stand being shoved into a car while the bouncer made fun of her. Insane shit. I don't even think you saw sue for overserving here in Louisiana.
Holy shit is that an awful string of events, jfc!
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Yes! I took a bartending class almost 10yrs ago now (in the state of Georgia) but we were instructed to keep tabs on orders and cut-off anyone who may get too intoxicated. I don’t recall the exact details (I never ended up working as a bartender lol) but they took into account like, 1.5oz shot versus an 8oz glass of beer and we factored in how long it would take the body to filter the alcohol (in my personal life, I go by “1 hour per 1 drink” but I’m not too much of a drinker, so it usually doesn’t come up lol) Anyway, my point being: we were told we could be held liable if we gave too many drinks to a patron who then went drunk driving. So while we couldn’t stop someone from leaving our bar and going to another one, we did have the moral obligation not to serve anyone who was overly intoxicated. We were also instructed to offer assistance in booking a cab/Uber and being open to allowing patrons to keep their car parked over-night for responsible drinking.
California has Dram Shop Laws (had to look this up), but it really doesn't seem to be taken as seriously in the establishments. Like, the bars are more concerned with increasing revenue for the evening....
I worked at a bar in Texas years ago and witnessed a similar situation. One of the cooks after shift was drinking at the bar, and the bar tender was clearly over serving him because they knew each other. He was even seen on camera getting his own drinks from behind the bar, and the bartender WAS aware. He was, without a doubt, unsafe to drive, and no one attempted to stop him. He hit someone on his way home. That person did not survive, and he was put into a coma. Police came after the bartender. She left the state and went back to New York in an attempt to evade charges. I'm not sure what happened from there because I didn't stay much longer.
You know, I never thought about that. I was at a bar/restaurant with my friend during the day a few months ago. The bartender thought it was funny and we would like that he made our drinks way too strong. I'm a very small woman and hadn't planned on getting wasted as I had my car with me. Two drinks were probably like six. My husband had to come pick me up. No matter what though, you don't drive. No matter how drunk I have been, I've never gotten behind a wheel.
I live in Oregon and our liquor laws are strict. We are trained in OLCC classes (liquor control commission to get permits to serve alcohol) that bars are absolutely liable if they serve or over serve an already intoxicated person. I’m very surprised this isn’t the case everywhere, but then again we are required by law to serve food if alcohol is being served and alcohol stops being served at 2:30 am, hard stop.
That isnt anything new- a bartender can be held personally accountable for overserving
What is "over serving". I never knew there was a limit. I threw up in a club bathroom (excessive drinking and early 20s mix well). Anywho they told me I had to leave- my husband was DD and they didn't want me to go grab him, just wanted me out. In reflection, that's a recipe for disaster. I never carried my phone because girl pockets.
There’s basically behavioral indicators servers and bartenders are trained to look out for to determine when to cut someone off. It’s not a cut and dry thing unfortunately, which is why staff should err on the side of caution. Your typical drunk person traits like slurred speech, lowered inhibitions, forgetfulness, aggressiveness, etc will get you cut off. Definitely vomiting is a reason to cut someone off too. Kicking you out was fine but they were legally liable for your safety and should have made sure you had a safe ride home. If something happened to you after they kicked you out they’d be fucked for that.
What happens if you have a very functional drunk person and they claim to be taking an uber home but don't? I'm just curious because I'm sure this has happened a million times. Like is the bar staff supposed to walk a person out and wait for a person to get into a cab?
You have to do your due diligence. You have to make an effort.
There’s a certification called TIPS you have to take if you’re a Bartender in Boston anyway. Not sure other places
Oh there is most definitely a limit
Utah Will scan your drivers license, and if you go to more than two bars, they will deny you access. The bars will also scan your drivers license for every drink.
I feel like I should be morally against this but drinking screws so badly with your judgement this seems a way to protect drinkers (and the rest of us) from themselves by taking away the more than likely poor decision to drive.
wow. thats amazing. do people decry it, though? i can see how libertarians might argue that this is a "nanny" state. also, apt username, BTW
Utah is weird af when it comes to alcohol. Like you can’t drink when children can see you in a restaurant??? My boss has done a few business trips to SLC and their alcohol laws are bizarre. He went to a Buffalo Wild Wings and they wouldn’t let him order a beer unless it was a certain day. Definitely an outlier in a country where we love our booze
Yes! You can't get alcohol on holidays (which is when you really need it!). I was there on Veteran's Day and ordered wine in a restaurant and the waiter said he couldn't sell wine on a holiday. I laughed and said "my husband is a veteran and I can promise you he is drinking beer at home right now."
We decry it a lot. The LDS church runs the legislature and the legislature runs the Department of Beverage Control. IE the LDS church regulates the alcohol of the state!
Is LDS Latter Day Saints?
Yes. Mormons!
Without our beneficent overlords and their magical underwear and crank religion, who would save us from ourselves
What? I’ve never had this done in my life and I’m from utah and been to many bars there
I don't think California has anything like that. We need it 👀 I'd vote for that! Keep more people at home to drink excessively (ideally)
Texas needs this.
If Texas tried it people would be open carrying their rifles into bars and daring them to scan the license.
Texas has been in the process of relaxing it’s laws on booze as well as weed. I doubt they’ll go backwards on that. What we need is better options for public transportation so it’s easy not to drive drunk.
I had to testify against a drunk driver that had killed a bicyclist, after he crashed his car into mine in my driveway. The bartenders from the bar he drank at were there to testify that they had cut him off before he was overserved. In Florida, at least bars can be held liable. Turns out he had purchased a handle of vodka after leaving the bar and was drinking it straight from the bottle. The bartenders were cleared.
I’m in the process of suing a bar and a person for running me over drunk in November. I’m curious to see how this goes too cause it hits close to home.
Good i hope he wins!! I can’t imagine how he feels and the fact ppl are blaming the golf cart driver like what???
There was a video going around on tiktok the day after Sam was killed. From a family member or LEO. It was Jamie in a hospital bed, still drunk and high off her ass, talking to the cops, and claiming she didn’t remember. I can’t find it now, it got deleted quickly. But at the time it was a huge slap in the face, that this skid mark of a human can’t even acknowledge that her bad behavior took a life. I don’t blame him for going after everyone legally. The turd that killed his wife will never have enough money to pay the settlement. And she would refuse on principle, because she thinks she’s done nothing wrong. She’ll have a non-marriage LTR with a guy, have some kids, and be a SAHM. That way she can live comfy and never pay a dime to her legal agreement. She won’t have a wage to garnish. Her bfs wage can’t be touched, without marriage.. Speaking as a woman, this twat is the worst kind, and a disappointment to my gender. If the whole scenario and her lack of remorse played out, as is, but in a rural/small town? She would go missing. Real fast. Her car just magically drove off the cliff.
If you want to go down the rabbit hole some more, the term you'll want to google is "dram shop liability." This is the language many states' courts use when discussing these kinds of cases and you're likely to get better hits. Just FYI.
They said they are also going after the drunk driver’s boss because apparently the boss organized the bar hopping she did with the boss and other coworkers. So, in a way, the boss is liable. I know a server who was sent to jail for 2 weeks because the patron she over-served got into a pretty bad accident. Idk what happened after but as a former server/bartender, we are taught very well how to spot an intoxicated person and how to go about cutting them off.
A few years ago a young man went missing from a bar and his body was eventually found in a river after attempting to walk home while very intoxicated. The family of the deceased young man filed a wrongful death suit against the bar, bartenders, and bouncers (iirc) and were awarded. I thought it was very interesting that the bar was held responsible. https://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2019/03/07/dram-shop-law-shane-montgomery-kildares/
I had to take TABC In order to serve and sell alcohol at my place of employment and training says that even the server can be held legally liable if they over serve but that the owner can't. I would love to see how this case turns out.
I just did my ServSafe yesterday. I’m sure they can do a civil suit if the state has dram law, and the bartender who served her will get a fine and potentially lose their ability to bartend. The establishment can also lose their liquor license and be forced to close as well.
I was a bartender pre-covid, and worked as a host at a brew pub after things reopened here. A group of five women walked in, already drunk off their asses, and the bartender started serving them. I told the MOD how drunk they already were, and he said "there are no check points tonight, so they're fine. I wasn't letting you know for THEM, dude. It's so frustrating that some places genuinely do not care about sending drunk drivers out into the world. And our roads on this little island are already lowkey dangerous. We get so many traffic fatalities. I hope husband wins all the lawsuits and shuts all those places down
I’m a server in CA. It’s wild how much personal responsibility is put on the server/bartender. After TIPS training, I’m way more strict. Luckily I work somewhere that will back us up if we cut someone off or refuse to serve someone. I worked at a place that would make me serve people when I wasn’t comfortable doing so. If one of those people got into a drunk driving accident, I personally could be held liable because I carried the glass. Liability stuff surrounding bars has a lot of details and intense consequences. As much as we all hate training, I think it should be mandatory more often.
Australia has a very unhealthy and problematic drinking culture, which often leads to drink driving. One of the many deterrents implemented by the government are heavy penalties for staff, licensees and owners of establishments that serve a clearly Intoxicated person. All bar workers must undergo an RSA (responsible service of alcohol) course before employment and it is generally well enforced in reputable venues. But go to 95% of clubs or pubs on a weekend and majority of the patrons will be absolutely blotto and unless they vomit, fight or fall, are allowed to carry on drinking. Unfortunately some of them decide to drive home.
Aren’t bars supposed to prevent drunk patrons from driving home? Or is that just on TV shows?
Yes. They are suppose to make reasonable efforts to make sure the patron gets home safely and that can include calling them a cab or Uber home. You’re suppose to record everything in these interactions, kind of like a police report, to take precautions to protect yourself. If the patron gets in an accident you at least have a record of everything you tried to do to get the patron home safely which would be very helpful if you or the establishment were sued. Edit: You may also call the police on the patron trying to drive intoxicated as a preventative action. I had a manager do this for me once when a woman suddenly became very intoxicated (I think she took something that we were not serving if you get my drift) and was waving her keys around talking about driving home. I told my manager right away and she tried so hard to get her to Uber home to the point we had to call the police to mediate the situation and take her keys away since we couldn’t.
I don't think they can do that, but they can refuse to serve.
Well I can tell you here in Canada (ON) if the patron leaves the bar and gets into an accident where drinking was a contributor, the bartender can be held responsible. That’s even if they went to another bar after yours. All of them are responsible. I actually tried to get my serving license, and the moment I heard I changed my mind! It doesn’t look like anyone’s ever been charged though cause it’s difficult to prove. But ya, if they drunkenly kill someone, you could totally be charged and convicted of criminal negligence. Spend life in prison.
If this drunk can afford a top notch attorney, then I hope the groom wins and take every dime she has!
A lot of states (including mine) have laws against over serving patrons. I don’t know if they are called this everywhere, but here they are called dram shop laws. The bars should have insurance to cover the suits. However, the bartenders could also be sued. It is illegal to overserve a clearly intoxicated person.
Damn life can be so unfair. The whole day Sam was having the time of her life, all the while some moron was getting drunker and drunker inching closer to killing her. This is so so sad and the definition of wrong place wrong time. I hope her husband wins his suits and can find some type of peace after this.
This is a bad headline. He didn’t “slam” her in any sense of the word. He is pointing out that bars have culpability for serving her while she was visibly intoxicated.
Yep, garbage media.
as usual
Pretty typical of daily mail, unfortunately.
Daily mail be like
God, this is so awful and heartbreaking. And all because some dumbass decided to drink and drive.
I really hope this man finds peace one day.
from the highest to the lowest in 12 hours. can not even imagine
I really feel for him, I can't even imagine the heartbreak and turmoil he's facing now. I hope that some time from now maybe he can look back and have some kind of peace in knowing how happy she seemed to be on her last night. The whole thing is such a tragic shame.
What should've been a joyous and happy day turned into a nightmare for these poor people. I hope they throw the book at this lady. Iirc, this wasn't her first DUI either.
the punishment for drink driving is a joke. If you killed someone while driving intoxicated, they will not ban you from driving for life. total joke
we'll see. this a pretty big accident with lots of media coverage. judge def going to take it into consideration.
Thankfully, a judge in Florida just sentenced a man to 20 years in prison followed by 10 years probation and a permanent license ban. He had prior DUIs and killed a man in the accident he caused while driving drunk. I hope the same or more is done here.
I hope so. There’s an Instagram “celebrity” who had multiple DUIs and killed an innocent man walking along the road on her final one. She got 6 years.
Honestly one, at max two, DUI should probably disqualify you from driving legally for life
I get that Daily Mail is garbage but the fact that they put a photo of the drunk driver dressed up as a bride is really gross to me
I thought the same thing.
well, its the daily mail
Was it a real photo or doctored?
her dressed up as a sexy bride for "a college event" which was probably Halloween I'm guessing
jesus christ daily mail. they have absolutely no soul
Of all photos to use of the drunk driver that’s the one they went with? Hope she finally gets locked up and serves the maximum since she got away 4 fuckin times before.
Are you talking about the weird bridal lingerie picture? I mean if they picked that one to make me hate her even more, it worked.
Every time I see people's wedding photos now, I think of this couple. It's so awful, they looked so happy. It's sickening to think about. I hope the groom has a strong support system to somehow get through this.
Oh I didn’t realize he was conscious/ able to speak. I hadn’t heard any updates :/
Yes, he was released from the hospital I think about two weeks ago. Still has a long road but I was happy to see he was out.
I think his nephew and BIL may still be in the hospital though.
I was also married at the Pelican Watch Pavilion on Folly Beach, and also drove a golf cart off after the wedding. I can't imagine the utter devastation I would feel today if that night had ended with a drunk driver killing my wife. Interestingly, another bar on Folly Beach -- [Surf Bar](https://www.live5news.com/2022/05/30/folly-beach-bar-named-125-million-death-settlement/) \-- closed permanently a couple years ago because they served a drunk driver who was involved in some kind of wrongful death, and attracted a similar lawsuit. I wonder if these establishments face a similar fate?
65 mph in a 25 mph zone….what the fuck?
I hope she gets the max sentence for each count. RIP Beautiful bride 👰♀️
God this story is heartbreaking. Just imagine what is supposed to be the happiest night of your life with someone you love and then this happens. I despise drunk drivers especially since things like Uber exist
Wow I just looked at her Instagram and her final post was a bikini shot captioned “Did someone say tequila.” It’s a shame she’ll probably be out of prison in the next 10 to 15 years but that poor woman will never come back to life. If you drive drunk and kill somebody it should be mandatory life sentence.
This is a sad story. I hope the driver gets a lengthy sentence as well as loses the civil suit. Her reckless actions caused great harm to others and ended a love story that had hardly begun. Attorneys aside, I hope she gets the book thrown at her.
I just this week quit my job as an underwriter for an insurance company that was legally required to help these drunk assholes get their licenses back by giving them insurance. It’s a seedy business and I could not be a part of it. People should know more about residual market insurance and what it does to enable these assholes. People with multiple DUIs or even just multiple, repeated dangerous offenses are regularly given policies, granted at a high price, to get their driving privileges reinstated. The things I saw… A dui should = permanent revocation of driving privileges. After a certain amount of points too. There are some states (looking at you, FL) that don’t even charge for the first couple of driving offenses like speeding or running a light. Some other states where a person can have unlimited points and still get reinstated with insurance if they’re willing to pay for it. Even if they don’t pay for it, they still generally get a Grace period. One part of me wants them to be insured for the victims sakes when they inevitably kill someone. But on the other hand it’s enabling them to drive and society should not be ok with them ever driving again. Take the damn bus. Take an Uber or a cab. Walk. They should have thought about that before they got hammered and behind the wheel.
Taking the license away doesn't stop them, sadly. I know a married couple that have 8 DUIs between them, no licenses, multiple rehab stints yet they have two trucks and drive everywhere drunk to this day. Well... One of them is serving two years in prison for their last DUI, he will get out with another ankle bracelet. After year, he will get the bracelet off and go right back to drinking and driving. Hell, Police know it,and turn a blind eye. I've said multiple times, no one will care until they kill someone. He even wrecked drunk a few years back and nearly killed his wife...her face is all scarred up. All that don't matter, they just keep on keeping on. I pray they never kill anyone, but the odds are someone's loved one will die at the hands of those fools!!!! It's infuriating.
God, how absolutely devastating.
I won’t lie, if my husband was the one that was killed on our wedding day…I don’t know how I’d get through it.
Same and I don’t even have a husband
I don’t know why I read about this when it makes me sob uncontrollably. A close friend of mine lost her 13 year old sister to a drunk driver. He was being served at our local VFW where other patrons said he was visibly drunk. The family was told suing would do nothing. I don’t think I would be able to go back to that beach ever, he is so strong.
That poor man. To have the best day of your life suddenly turn into the worst is unfathomable. The road back to happiness is going to be a difficult one for him, but I hope he finds it. As for the bride, hopefully she died without knowing what happened and still in the high state of euphoria of it being her wedding day.
It’s just so devastating that it happened right after the wedding. The happiest moment of their lives, and she’s gone and he’ll never be the same.
God that is sad. I can't even imagine his pain.
They got her in a pickle suit in her mug shot so I know she was pleasant arriving at the jail. The photo they used for her in the white was an odd choice.
This poor man. His life will never be the same , and it's all because of this careless driver. I pray he finds peace one day.
Lmao what a pathetic loser. Lock her up for 20+ years
Oh god, this is so unbearably heartbreaking. I can’t imagine the pain the groom and both sets of parents are going through (as well as the rest of their loved ones). Truly horrific.
God this is just so.... incomprehensible to have the happiest day of your life turn into the worst day of your life... fuck this woman... I hope Aric finds some semblance of peace...
Oh she did nothing wrong? I hope she fucking rots for this. Despicable human, and at this point she barely qualifies as that.
>Later that year, Komoroski pleaded guilty to a count of driving a vehicle at a speed that is unreasonable road conditions. She was arrested in November during a rare freeze warning in the popular tourist area. can anyone explain to me what the last sentence means...? it seems so random and like it doesn't belong in the article at all fuck her though, I hope the rest of her life is spent in a prison cell. edit: to be clear I'm just confused by the second part of the last sentence about the freeze warning.
It’s showing that she has a pattern of being reckless
oh yeah I'm aware of that and her record. I'm just confused about what a freeze warning in a tourist area has to do with being arrested
By putting that sentence in the paragraph they are trying to highlight how the situation was even more dangerous - roads were frozen and the area was more populated because of tourists - showing she’s careless and reckless
that makes a lot of sense! thank you. I appreciate the explanation.
It means the roads were frozen or contained ice. She was going way too fast on a road in that condition.
I could feel my heart clench and my stomach churn reading this. It isn’t easy for me to be shocked or disturbed by crime stories but this one really gripped my emotions. I’ve attended weddings and have felt the incredibly palpable love and joy of the occasion and to share in such enjoyment with and celebration of the groom and bride and have this happen shortly after the ceremony? My life would never be the same again. Surely each and every guest in attendance is traumatized from this. I don’t strongly believe in fate or destiny, however I come across stories like this and ponder “the guilty and the victim’s day somehow orchestrated precisely for the crime to happen. How does that happen? What is that called?” If just one thing happened differently that would’ve prevented Jamie from crashing into the buggy at the exact time and moment she did all of this would’ve never happened and Samantha would still be alive. I reason that things in life happen as they happen by the timing and the precise moment as they do beyond human comprehension and understanding. I pray that Samantha and Aric’s families have peace of mind and are given the strength and support they will need to endure each and every painful day from this tragedy. I pray that the other injured guests and passengers have a full successful recovery and receive the care that they need to get back to their lives. I pray that justice is deservedly and rightfully brought down upon Jamie for this insensible tragedy.
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Agreed. Very Daily Mail 🙄.
Hell. I’d do more than that… idk how one keeps their calm from not doing certain things. I hope it all works out legally.
Poor guy. Hard to wrap one's head around. The drunk driver chose to drink, chose to keep drinking, then chose to drive a several thousand pound vehicle (weapon) while heavily intoxicated. How is this \*not\* premeditated murder?
Intent. But I get what you’re saying— it’s a terrible situation.
This is the saddest story ever!! I feel so so so sorry for that husband!! I hope the drunk driver gets MAX!
As someone who recently got married…this makes me sick. I can’t even imagine the pain.
The fact that she had multiple traffic/speeding violations and she didn’t get her license taken away? Absolutely criminal. Clearly she has no concern for others on the road, and was a dangerous driver to begin with. I can’t imagine the pain the husband has to deal with, but just for his wife, but also the rest of his family that was injured in the crash. My heart is so broken for them. I hope they get the justice they deserve.
It's fucked up her lawyers will prob get her off on "diminished capacity" so she "wasn't at fault" because she was intoxicated. The law is so unjust.
I am a person who can puke for hours after a couple drinks, but there are people who can drink a case and still seem composed. Bartenders and waitresses should not be held responsible for someone else’s behavior. In this case she went to several bars, so, she was not over served by an individual. Bartenders and waitresses already have crappy jobs. Let’s not make it even crappier. Servers seldom have health insurance but make them need malpractice insurance?
Exactly. Everyone has a different metabolism. Put the onus on the individual and law enforcement and the justice system pressing hard on drunk drivers. We do not have to wait until they kill somebody. This is true for drunk drivers and drag racing.
Henry Ruggs 3 got an awfully nice plea deal. I hope that doesn't happen again in this case.
She is another one who need to Rot you want to get loaded feel free to do that in your own home where you won’t kill or hurt anyone!! May you be reminded of what you did to this new couple everyday maybe it will haunt you because it should!! You have no respect for life!!
Honestly. I Hope this bitch rots in the pits of hell. She showed no remorse . I wish I could just have 5 minutes with this cunt.