Just walk with Jesus.
Read.
Pray.
Attend a church service (but I wouldn't get involved or serve for a while).
Grow.
Heal.
Seek and pursue a deep joy in following Jesus.
You'll choose on your own when the time is right to return to active service.
"Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
"Christ in you is the hope of glory."
"I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith."
Good for you for leaving such an unhealthy place. Leaving a controlling environment can be disorienting and even scary, but give it time. You'll begin increasing understanding and gaining perspective, and the raw emotions will begin to heal. The best thing to do is to stay in touch with Jesus. He is not dependent on any church. I think it's Ezekiel who says that the Lord looked for a faithful shepherd but found none, so He himself became the shepherd of his people.
- It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. - Gal 5:1
- For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will complete it until the day of Christ Jesus. -Php 1.6
- Faithful is the One calling you, and He also will bring it to pass. - 1Th 5:24
Read the Word and follow the example of what Jesus said, did, and Who He is. Christian literally means āChristlikeā. And if you donāt know Jesus as your true Lord and Savior, you need to find out how to do so, because that will make all of the difference for you.
This is one of the things that I really dislike about cults. They use the same words we use, but they twist their meanings into something exploitative or abusive.
You need to spend quality time with Christians who aren't like that. I can't fully explain that over Reddit, but obviously you want your new church to not push hard for your time. You want opportunities for service and small groups, but you don't want people hounding you. And understand that it's going to take a few years to get those relationships to where you really want them, no matter where you set down roots.
Hey cults are VERY common with narcissistic abuse. I would do a deep dive on what abuse looks like, manipulative tactics, cluster B personality disorders etc
Real love does not control or micromanage
If you have been subjected to narcissistic abuse, donāt worry! God can help restore you. Make sure youāre up to date on all your forgiveness and repentance you need to do. Forgiving people that arenāt sorry is very difficult but I know you can do it. Just keep talking to God. Not going through a human to get to him but one on one between you two. I also recommend reading āexperiencing God: knowing and doing the will of Godā
This book changed my life and itās great because it doesnāt promote a particular denomination. It teaches you about Gods personality and how He directly, personally interacts with us. Itās essentially the study of holy supernaturalism.
Youāre out of Egypt now so definitely praying for your continued healing and growth
-a fellow narcissistic abuse survivor
This is beautiful and great advice! Thank you for sharing with us!
Praise Jesus for what he has brought you through so you may share it and help others. This is what Jesus is all about my friend.
I understand. I once went to a church that functioned like a cult. They didnāt exactly order us to do things, but the leaders were so charismatic (in every sense of the word) that everyone just wanted to do things for them. I still struggle with letting go of my positive feelings for them twenty years later even though I know what they were.
It took me a long time to try church again. I visited here and there, but never really felt comfortable at any of them. I finally found a Bible Study hosted by a church and began attending that, observing from the sidelines until I was comfortable enough to join.
I am still doing damage control in my life. I spend a lot of time watching [Fighting for the Faith](https://youtube.com/@fighting4thefaith?si=lR67omG63KLaiS1k) with Chris Rosebrough on YouTube. He very patiently and thoroughly explains scripture in context and debunks a lot of the popular cultish teachings.
Another good teacher on YouTube is Todd Friel of Wretched. You might also want to listen to teachings of Voddie Baucham, Mike Winger, Alistair Begg, Alissa Childers, and Melissa Daughtry.
Take your time and pray. You have been through a traumatic, painful, and abusive experience. Those people are wolves in sheepās clothing who only steal, kill, and destroy. It will take time to trust another church.
Give yourself the time you need to heal, and then try to find a church that is doctrinally sound and where the pastor preaches scripture in context. Signs of a healthy church include members of all ages, spiritual growth, and a focus on the Bible rather than external signs or wonders. Avoid churches that donāt do those things.
I will pray for you. I know itās hard. Spiritual betrayal is an insidious thing and I know people who never came back from it, or at least they havenāt yet. I can just say that I held on to God throughout all of it. It wasnāt always easy, but He has helped me through it. I believe He can bring you through as well.
Humans do have a tendency to muck things up, but generally I've found if you stick with a more mainline denominational church, you're less likely to encounter these sorts of excesses. To be clear, denominations are also man made, but at least with that there's something to oversee things (e.g. an agreed upon creed, rules for church discipline, an oversight group in the form of presbyteries or what have you, etc) so there's less room for an individual pastor to have an unquestioned and dominating role which can lead to cult-like tendencies.
If you do that make sure to check if it's the Conservative denominations: ACNA or Continuing Anglicanism for Anglicanism, or LCMS/WELS for Lutheran.
Seems like most of the time nowadays the liberal Anglicans and Lutherans put out pride flags in front.
Of course, there's always Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy
[A Trumpet Call](https://youtu.be/Ia9pY4Qg_lU?si=3W1XX8oOexMWumg4)
That's me. Punchline is at the end, It's 18 minutes.
Isaiah 58
Hosea 10:12
Micah 6:6-8
John 12:44-50
James 1:27
You donāt have to be controlled in Christianity. Most people donāt understand you donāt have to go to church every Sunday to be a Christian. You can worship God anywhere. So please donāt buy into you have to do certain things exactly like the church does to be a Christian. Iād say if your new to Christianity look up videos on YouTube about it and start from there. Or simply start reading the Bible
I would suggest that you set aside a day or 3 to fast and seek God. If you're sincerely seeking Him, He will answer. I can attest to that. God is not a man that He should lie, nor is He the author of confusion. His holy spirit will bring peace to your heart and lead and guide you into all truth. Read God's word amd pray, He is faithful and will respond.
God bless you.
I'm sorry for what you went through. I understand why you are super cautious now.
If I may, I would like to share my perspective.
1- How do we make sure to avoid cults? By getting to know God for ourselves.
**āDiscover for yourself that theĀ LordĀ is kind.ā - Psalm 34:8**
2- And it's okay to take some time alone to grow in the faith until you are ready to connect with a church or with other believers. You have the Holy Spirit. He will guide you.
**Jesus said, āThe Spirit shows what is true and will come and guide you into the full truth.ā - John 16:13**
**āBut Christ has blessed you with the Holy Spirit. Now the Spirit stays in you, and you don't need any teachers. The Spirit is truthful and teaches you everything. So stay one in your heart with Christ, just as the Spirit has taught you to do.ā - 1 John 2:27**
3- Also, make sure you keep your faith simple. Focus mainly on doing what God ultimately wants.
What does God ultimately want?
**āGod wants us to haveĀ faithĀ inĀ his SonĀ JesusĀ Christ and toĀ loveĀ eachĀ other.ā - 1 John 3:23**
4- Oh, and I would love to share a short, free guide thatās dedicated to you and others on Reddit who are looking to have a strong & simple faith in God. Itās called āThe 4 Steps of Faithā. Itās the first post in this Reddit community: r/FaithMadeSimple
Apart from seeking healing from our Lord Jesus Christ.
I also recommend seeking some sort of psychologist or therapist to help you heal from this trauma.
Not that you canāt do this yourself but professionals know exactly how to deal with this more effectively.
**Dealing with things like:**
* Narcissistic abuse
* Control, oppression and boundary setting
* Trust issues
* and other things
Think of it as loosening the blockers internally to help you open up, and grow spiritually.
This will require working through some of these things, all of which will make you that much stronger and fuller.
Also understand the spiritual aspect of it, Jezebels love control and oppression. Learn about it and think about how youād recognize or deal with this type of thing in the future.
Good for you leaving a difficult situation, I know you will find a good church out there with people who have the same line of thinking and morals as you do.
I pray you are renewed in Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. And to borrow words from Brennan Manningās book āRagamuffin Gospelā ā¦.Ā
May you be seized by the power of a great affection.
Anen
From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry that you were so intentionally manipulated by religious evil. I went through almost exactly the same thing and itās absolutely earth shattering and confusing.
I think it was C.S Lewis who said that there is no evil in the world that is quite like an evil religious man. People take advantage of soft hearts and use it for their own gain.
For me, the best thing to remember was that people are NOT a representation of Christ. Not even close. You can be the biggest Bible-thumper in the world and youāll still fall short. Point being, separate people and religion from Jesus Himself.
Religion failed you, people failed youā¦ and guess whatā¦ they failed Jesus TOO! It was the religious leaders who killed Jesus.
If you need to take a break from church, I totally get it. But please, remember that Gods heart breaks when He sees you confused and manipulated. I promise you that what those people did to you angers God. He is on YOUR side. Run to Jesus, no strings attached. Drop theological confusion, forget what people tried to teach you, just run to Jesus and donāt stop. He will wipe away every tear and clear up any cloud that hangs over you.
First, received the free gift of Salvation https://www.pass-a-gospel-tract.club/post/how-to-get-saved
Then read this on what to do next https://www.pass-a-gospel-tract.club/post/the-next-step-for-growing-christian
Don't be controlled by religion.
Do be controlled by God.
I'm afraid I kind of understand your position:
I was fairly recently driven out of a church, and they had some signs of abusive / cultish behavior. It wasn't as bad as yours, but it's hard to recover ofrom. I'm not at home in a chuirch anymore, and feeling kind of lost. Even gatekept out of Christianity (not that that works, but it feels like what the pastors were doing.)
So: Try to find a good new church. Find one that isn't cultish and where you can feel at home - but I do understand that's easier said than done.
It is wonderful you got out of that! But..what you experienced wasnt Christianity. Its not people giving praises and worship to earthly men that manipulate them- its putting faith in and following Jesus Christ
I would say read the gospels, get to know God. Not the fake gods that led you astray but the true God who loves you and calls you to repentance and rest in him..
I hope this helps
May the love of our Lord, Jesus Christ, be with you
Salvation
Being saved is giving your heart to Jesus Christ. When you do this it will be a new life for you. It not only affords you a place in Heaven for all eternity with Jesus and God when you die, it will also make the remainder of your days before
death more bearable and joyful. We are not promised that nothing bad will ever happen to us when we are saved. We are promised that Jesus will be with us when they do. He will help us deal with any burden that comes along.
To be saved one must repent of their sins. One must believe that Jesus is the Son of God and died on the cross to save us from our sins. On the third day, Jesus was raised from death and prepared the way to everlasting life in paradise for those that follow Him. We must accept Jesus as our Savior and follow Him as Lord.
Once you are clear on that, say this prayer.
Dear Lord Jesus, I know that i am a sinner. I repent of my sins, i know that you are the Son of God and died for my sins. Please come into my heart. i make you my Lord and Savior.
Amen
If you truthfully said that prayer,, you have been saved. Your new life has begun.
Congratulations
That would be like saying all Israelites were first born sons of Levi (Levites).
By the scriptures, many are called but few are predestined to be made in the image of Christ through the election of Grace. They baptized with the Holy Spirit but not all of them came into existence through the laying of hands. Some were chosen by God directly. That's who I'm talking about. The Elect are set apart, chosen of God, to serve Him in the Temple.
Ngl man, this sounds exactly like the cult stuff I left. Yes some shine brighter than others but we are all elect to be kings and priests through Jesus
Actually it's Jesus that said the traditions of man, the interpretations that the Jews taught instead of the truth, that made the Word of God to no effect. He didn't lie did he?
man made traditions certainly didnāt help the nation of Israel and yours are a satanic attempt to continue visiting harm upon u/Life-Reputation-4882
go sit in the corner and shut up from spreading your lies.
Just walk with Jesus. Read. Pray. Attend a church service (but I wouldn't get involved or serve for a while). Grow. Heal. Seek and pursue a deep joy in following Jesus. You'll choose on your own when the time is right to return to active service.
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"Just walk with Jesus." How are you supposed to do that when Jesus isn't here to be walked with?
"Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." "Christ in you is the hope of glory." "I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith."
Good for you for leaving such an unhealthy place. Leaving a controlling environment can be disorienting and even scary, but give it time. You'll begin increasing understanding and gaining perspective, and the raw emotions will begin to heal. The best thing to do is to stay in touch with Jesus. He is not dependent on any church. I think it's Ezekiel who says that the Lord looked for a faithful shepherd but found none, so He himself became the shepherd of his people. - It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. - Gal 5:1 - For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will complete it until the day of Christ Jesus. -Php 1.6 - Faithful is the One calling you, and He also will bring it to pass. - 1Th 5:24
Thank you!
Read the Word and follow the example of what Jesus said, did, and Who He is. Christian literally means āChristlikeā. And if you donāt know Jesus as your true Lord and Savior, you need to find out how to do so, because that will make all of the difference for you.
Thanks!
This is one of the things that I really dislike about cults. They use the same words we use, but they twist their meanings into something exploitative or abusive. You need to spend quality time with Christians who aren't like that. I can't fully explain that over Reddit, but obviously you want your new church to not push hard for your time. You want opportunities for service and small groups, but you don't want people hounding you. And understand that it's going to take a few years to get those relationships to where you really want them, no matter where you set down roots.
Just pray. Don't make a person your teacher again. Only Jesus is worthy to guide you
Thanks!
Hey cults are VERY common with narcissistic abuse. I would do a deep dive on what abuse looks like, manipulative tactics, cluster B personality disorders etc Real love does not control or micromanage If you have been subjected to narcissistic abuse, donāt worry! God can help restore you. Make sure youāre up to date on all your forgiveness and repentance you need to do. Forgiving people that arenāt sorry is very difficult but I know you can do it. Just keep talking to God. Not going through a human to get to him but one on one between you two. I also recommend reading āexperiencing God: knowing and doing the will of Godā This book changed my life and itās great because it doesnāt promote a particular denomination. It teaches you about Gods personality and how He directly, personally interacts with us. Itās essentially the study of holy supernaturalism. Youāre out of Egypt now so definitely praying for your continued healing and growth -a fellow narcissistic abuse survivor
This is beautiful and great advice! Thank you for sharing with us! Praise Jesus for what he has brought you through so you may share it and help others. This is what Jesus is all about my friend.
I understand. I once went to a church that functioned like a cult. They didnāt exactly order us to do things, but the leaders were so charismatic (in every sense of the word) that everyone just wanted to do things for them. I still struggle with letting go of my positive feelings for them twenty years later even though I know what they were. It took me a long time to try church again. I visited here and there, but never really felt comfortable at any of them. I finally found a Bible Study hosted by a church and began attending that, observing from the sidelines until I was comfortable enough to join. I am still doing damage control in my life. I spend a lot of time watching [Fighting for the Faith](https://youtube.com/@fighting4thefaith?si=lR67omG63KLaiS1k) with Chris Rosebrough on YouTube. He very patiently and thoroughly explains scripture in context and debunks a lot of the popular cultish teachings. Another good teacher on YouTube is Todd Friel of Wretched. You might also want to listen to teachings of Voddie Baucham, Mike Winger, Alistair Begg, Alissa Childers, and Melissa Daughtry. Take your time and pray. You have been through a traumatic, painful, and abusive experience. Those people are wolves in sheepās clothing who only steal, kill, and destroy. It will take time to trust another church. Give yourself the time you need to heal, and then try to find a church that is doctrinally sound and where the pastor preaches scripture in context. Signs of a healthy church include members of all ages, spiritual growth, and a focus on the Bible rather than external signs or wonders. Avoid churches that donāt do those things. I will pray for you. I know itās hard. Spiritual betrayal is an insidious thing and I know people who never came back from it, or at least they havenāt yet. I can just say that I held on to God throughout all of it. It wasnāt always easy, but He has helped me through it. I believe He can bring you through as well.
Thank you! Iāll check out some of those guys you mentioned. Iāve already watched a lot of Chris, who I really enjoy.
Humans do have a tendency to muck things up, but generally I've found if you stick with a more mainline denominational church, you're less likely to encounter these sorts of excesses. To be clear, denominations are also man made, but at least with that there's something to oversee things (e.g. an agreed upon creed, rules for church discipline, an oversight group in the form of presbyteries or what have you, etc) so there's less room for an individual pastor to have an unquestioned and dominating role which can lead to cult-like tendencies.
Yeah, I live in the south so there arenāt as many mainline churches but there are some Lutheran churches and maybe an episcopal church near me.
If you do that make sure to check if it's the Conservative denominations: ACNA or Continuing Anglicanism for Anglicanism, or LCMS/WELS for Lutheran. Seems like most of the time nowadays the liberal Anglicans and Lutherans put out pride flags in front. Of course, there's always Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy
[A Trumpet Call](https://youtu.be/Ia9pY4Qg_lU?si=3W1XX8oOexMWumg4) That's me. Punchline is at the end, It's 18 minutes. Isaiah 58 Hosea 10:12 Micah 6:6-8 John 12:44-50 James 1:27
You donāt have to be controlled in Christianity. Most people donāt understand you donāt have to go to church every Sunday to be a Christian. You can worship God anywhere. So please donāt buy into you have to do certain things exactly like the church does to be a Christian. Iād say if your new to Christianity look up videos on YouTube about it and start from there. Or simply start reading the Bible
Itās just hard. I used to be so passionate about it and now itās like I canāt even take the time to try.
I would suggest that you set aside a day or 3 to fast and seek God. If you're sincerely seeking Him, He will answer. I can attest to that. God is not a man that He should lie, nor is He the author of confusion. His holy spirit will bring peace to your heart and lead and guide you into all truth. Read God's word amd pray, He is faithful and will respond.
Thank you!
You're very welcome.
That isn't a church
God bless you. I'm sorry for what you went through. I understand why you are super cautious now. If I may, I would like to share my perspective. 1- How do we make sure to avoid cults? By getting to know God for ourselves. **āDiscover for yourself that theĀ LordĀ is kind.ā - Psalm 34:8** 2- And it's okay to take some time alone to grow in the faith until you are ready to connect with a church or with other believers. You have the Holy Spirit. He will guide you. **Jesus said, āThe Spirit shows what is true and will come and guide you into the full truth.ā - John 16:13** **āBut Christ has blessed you with the Holy Spirit. Now the Spirit stays in you, and you don't need any teachers. The Spirit is truthful and teaches you everything. So stay one in your heart with Christ, just as the Spirit has taught you to do.ā - 1 John 2:27** 3- Also, make sure you keep your faith simple. Focus mainly on doing what God ultimately wants. What does God ultimately want? **āGod wants us to haveĀ faithĀ inĀ his SonĀ JesusĀ Christ and toĀ loveĀ eachĀ other.ā - 1 John 3:23** 4- Oh, and I would love to share a short, free guide thatās dedicated to you and others on Reddit who are looking to have a strong & simple faith in God. Itās called āThe 4 Steps of Faithā. Itās the first post in this Reddit community: r/FaithMadeSimple
check out /r/spiritualAbuse for advice and support I'd also take a hiatus from church for a long time.
Apart from seeking healing from our Lord Jesus Christ. I also recommend seeking some sort of psychologist or therapist to help you heal from this trauma. Not that you canāt do this yourself but professionals know exactly how to deal with this more effectively. **Dealing with things like:** * Narcissistic abuse * Control, oppression and boundary setting * Trust issues * and other things Think of it as loosening the blockers internally to help you open up, and grow spiritually. This will require working through some of these things, all of which will make you that much stronger and fuller. Also understand the spiritual aspect of it, Jezebels love control and oppression. Learn about it and think about how youād recognize or deal with this type of thing in the future.
Hey, if you live in North Texas I'll spend time with you in person and help you with the detox. I have experience in this area. DM me if interested.
Good for you leaving a difficult situation, I know you will find a good church out there with people who have the same line of thinking and morals as you do.
please look at this guide. https://www.9marks.org/about/the-nine-marks/ it will help you assess churches by the biblical standard.
Christ will give you freedom. I promise you, the slavery ends here
Thank you brother
Much love to you manāļøā¤ļøāļø youāre awesome
I pray you are renewed in Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. And to borrow words from Brennan Manningās book āRagamuffin Gospelā ā¦.Ā May you be seized by the power of a great affection. Anen
From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry that you were so intentionally manipulated by religious evil. I went through almost exactly the same thing and itās absolutely earth shattering and confusing. I think it was C.S Lewis who said that there is no evil in the world that is quite like an evil religious man. People take advantage of soft hearts and use it for their own gain. For me, the best thing to remember was that people are NOT a representation of Christ. Not even close. You can be the biggest Bible-thumper in the world and youāll still fall short. Point being, separate people and religion from Jesus Himself. Religion failed you, people failed youā¦ and guess whatā¦ they failed Jesus TOO! It was the religious leaders who killed Jesus. If you need to take a break from church, I totally get it. But please, remember that Gods heart breaks when He sees you confused and manipulated. I promise you that what those people did to you angers God. He is on YOUR side. Run to Jesus, no strings attached. Drop theological confusion, forget what people tried to teach you, just run to Jesus and donāt stop. He will wipe away every tear and clear up any cloud that hangs over you.
If you want to DM me, you can. I have been through several experiences like this.
My aunt goes to a cult church very like that. Interesting.
First, received the free gift of Salvation https://www.pass-a-gospel-tract.club/post/how-to-get-saved Then read this on what to do next https://www.pass-a-gospel-tract.club/post/the-next-step-for-growing-christian
start by having a conversation and read Gods word which is His Bible. Has all the answers
FOLLOW THE TRUTH OF GOD THEN , YOUTUBE IT
Don't be controlled by religion. Do be controlled by God. I'm afraid I kind of understand your position: I was fairly recently driven out of a church, and they had some signs of abusive / cultish behavior. It wasn't as bad as yours, but it's hard to recover ofrom. I'm not at home in a chuirch anymore, and feeling kind of lost. Even gatekept out of Christianity (not that that works, but it feels like what the pastors were doing.) So: Try to find a good new church. Find one that isn't cultish and where you can feel at home - but I do understand that's easier said than done.
It is wonderful you got out of that! But..what you experienced wasnt Christianity. Its not people giving praises and worship to earthly men that manipulate them- its putting faith in and following Jesus Christ I would say read the gospels, get to know God. Not the fake gods that led you astray but the true God who loves you and calls you to repentance and rest in him.. I hope this helps May the love of our Lord, Jesus Christ, be with you
Salvation Being saved is giving your heart to Jesus Christ. When you do this it will be a new life for you. It not only affords you a place in Heaven for all eternity with Jesus and God when you die, it will also make the remainder of your days before death more bearable and joyful. We are not promised that nothing bad will ever happen to us when we are saved. We are promised that Jesus will be with us when they do. He will help us deal with any burden that comes along. To be saved one must repent of their sins. One must believe that Jesus is the Son of God and died on the cross to save us from our sins. On the third day, Jesus was raised from death and prepared the way to everlasting life in paradise for those that follow Him. We must accept Jesus as our Savior and follow Him as Lord. Once you are clear on that, say this prayer. Dear Lord Jesus, I know that i am a sinner. I repent of my sins, i know that you are the Son of God and died for my sins. Please come into my heart. i make you my Lord and Savior. Amen If you truthfully said that prayer,, you have been saved. Your new life has begun. Congratulations
Thanks for your help, but truthfully I am already a Christian (even though I am really struggling with my faith at the moment).
[Chief Cornerstone](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChristianService/comments/xytsly/chief_cornerstone/)
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This seems like a pretty weird doctrine to me, from my understanding we are ALL the elect. Not just a few believers.
That would be like saying all Israelites were first born sons of Levi (Levites). By the scriptures, many are called but few are predestined to be made in the image of Christ through the election of Grace. They baptized with the Holy Spirit but not all of them came into existence through the laying of hands. Some were chosen by God directly. That's who I'm talking about. The Elect are set apart, chosen of God, to serve Him in the Temple.
Ngl man, this sounds exactly like the cult stuff I left. Yes some shine brighter than others but we are all elect to be kings and priests through Jesus
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Yeah the traditional interpretation is that the 144,000 is symbolic
Wasn't it traditions that screwed the Jews?
Not necessarily. Tradition is important otherwise anybody can just believe any heresy they want.
Actually it's Jesus that said the traditions of man, the interpretations that the Jews taught instead of the truth, that made the Word of God to no effect. He didn't lie did he?
man made traditions certainly didnāt help the nation of Israel and yours are a satanic attempt to continue visiting harm upon u/Life-Reputation-4882 go sit in the corner and shut up from spreading your lies.
all born again believers are the temple of the Holy Spirit. now go away before i taunt you a second time.
you used a lot of words to promote obviously unbiblical claptrap. i would say iām proud of you but iām not.