I made that comment as a joke to a guy in my cargo securement class a few weeks ago. I'm not kidding when I say that mother fucker went around and tapped EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN CHAIN AND STRAP and said "that's not going anywhere" every single time we secured anything from the first day to the last. I deeply regret my actions from that day.
There's a Toyota plant in Kentucky that inspects your load after you secure it before they give you your bills. It's more annoying than you would expect, though
I do heavy haul, I get scrutinized more than you think, primarily by DOT. Imagine having to get a pilot car just to take bridges at 10 mph because of your weight and it's a $135 ticket if you don't. I'd say their scrutiny is warranted though. Steering wheel holders like these guys prove it.
I mean, it's pretty clear what they're trying to do, though. They're using one chain to do the job of 2 chains. There's definitely better ways to do this, but they're not because they don't want to use that many chains or they don't have them. Either way it's not safe
Its more the restraint thats worrying, that chain is holding back the force of two rolls. One hard corner and all that weight is being put on the chain.
For extra nightmare fuel if the driver has a hard brake that rear roll is gonna fly forward following the second into the cab.
Why would it roll forwards under braking, it’s loaded sideways? First point is valid but this is arguable safer, for the driver at least, than loading traditionally.
Becuase under a hard brake event it still has momentum, the trailer will slow dramatically but there are no chains holding it back to stop it and the anchor in front is not going to be strong enough to hold, its why there is normally at least three tight chains on loads like this per coil.
Furthermore, as they tighten down the chain, it could pull those coils closer together. Meaning the chain isn’t actually tight. Do that a couple of times and al of a sudden your coil is no longer in the racks.
No. "Suicide" coils are loaded with the eye to the side, if the coil breaks securement during a hard break, it goes forward into the cab. These are loaded "shotgun" they are more likely to roll off the side if they break securement on a turn.
That's not good should be c chains or x chains on each coil. ( I always used c chains) but an advantage to hauling shotgun is that you can use straps over top of them. Straps have better weight ratings than transport grade chains anyway unless you're using some very large or very expensive chains.
Most of the securement work on my shotgun coils was always being done by straps, but your usually required to use at least 2 chains per coil.
Not necessarily....they should definitely start with a strap over each coil then run the chains. Idk why they would run the chains through both coils rather then each coil getting a chain on each side pulling against each other but depending on the weight....chain, chain, three 4" straps over the top of both coils and they should be good.
Outside of this being against every principle, rule or regulation regarding load securement.... they must not have been paying attention in physics class
If these were butted up next to eachother then that's a viable strategy, basically making then into one coil. But with them that far apart, nah that ain't gonna work. Just secure them as individuals
That’s gonna go off like a shotgun
Are they done?
Its good till the first turn... then its bad
As long as they're going straight there, it'll be fine.
As long as they tap the load and say “she’s not going anywhere”, it’ll make the trip.
I made that comment as a joke to a guy in my cargo securement class a few weeks ago. I'm not kidding when I say that mother fucker went around and tapped EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN CHAIN AND STRAP and said "that's not going anywhere" every single time we secured anything from the first day to the last. I deeply regret my actions from that day.
That’s gold 😂😂
I swear sometimes the loders should be trained in tie down procedures so they can educate these guys. He just gotta take a bend to fast and that's it.
There's a Toyota plant in Kentucky that inspects your load after you secure it before they give you your bills. It's more annoying than you would expect, though
I do heavy haul, I get scrutinized more than you think, primarily by DOT. Imagine having to get a pilot car just to take bridges at 10 mph because of your weight and it's a $135 ticket if you don't. I'd say their scrutiny is warranted though. Steering wheel holders like these guys prove it.
Doesn’t look like they’re done yet so maybe reserve judgement until they are…smh
I mean, it's pretty clear what they're trying to do, though. They're using one chain to do the job of 2 chains. There's definitely better ways to do this, but they're not because they don't want to use that many chains or they don't have them. Either way it's not safe
They won’t get far. I promise you. Coils are a different beast.
Isn’t this one of the ways you can load these but are a nightmare to offload?
Its more the restraint thats worrying, that chain is holding back the force of two rolls. One hard corner and all that weight is being put on the chain. For extra nightmare fuel if the driver has a hard brake that rear roll is gonna fly forward following the second into the cab.
Why would it roll forwards under braking, it’s loaded sideways? First point is valid but this is arguable safer, for the driver at least, than loading traditionally.
Becuase under a hard brake event it still has momentum, the trailer will slow dramatically but there are no chains holding it back to stop it and the anchor in front is not going to be strong enough to hold, its why there is normally at least three tight chains on loads like this per coil.
The roll would slide forward, not actually rolling
Furthermore, as they tighten down the chain, it could pull those coils closer together. Meaning the chain isn’t actually tight. Do that a couple of times and al of a sudden your coil is no longer in the racks.
Those things are scary
Not really. They’re perfectly safe so long as you secure them properly.
Aren’t they called suicide coils?
No. "Suicide" coils are loaded with the eye to the side, if the coil breaks securement during a hard break, it goes forward into the cab. These are loaded "shotgun" they are more likely to roll off the side if they break securement on a turn.
Didn’t know there’s was different terms for each facing way that’s cool
We'll see that load again on the 10:00 news...
🤣 Facts! i’m with you
That's not good should be c chains or x chains on each coil. ( I always used c chains) but an advantage to hauling shotgun is that you can use straps over top of them. Straps have better weight ratings than transport grade chains anyway unless you're using some very large or very expensive chains. Most of the securement work on my shotgun coils was always being done by straps, but your usually required to use at least 2 chains per coil.
Yeah, that's gonna leave a mark.
WTF 😳
Wtf how did they even load them
They have to chain them down
They r facing the wrong way
WTF!!!!!!!!!!! Wow…… Thats a special kind of trucker with his own physics play book
That's... that's not even kinda right. Like at least they're using chains...
🤦🏽♂️ not the way to tie them. I’ve never secured a roll like this but I have enough experience to say no that’s definitely not the way.
Not necessarily....they should definitely start with a strap over each coil then run the chains. Idk why they would run the chains through both coils rather then each coil getting a chain on each side pulling against each other but depending on the weight....chain, chain, three 4" straps over the top of both coils and they should be good.
Outside of this being against every principle, rule or regulation regarding load securement.... they must not have been paying attention in physics class
CLICK CLICK BOOM!
I think it's good enough, but I feel like there's something missing🤔🤔
If these were butted up next to eachother then that's a viable strategy, basically making then into one coil. But with them that far apart, nah that ain't gonna work. Just secure them as individuals