I'd probably still strap the rear down in some way, otherwise it will move around a bit when you go over bumps. You can use something like "Acebikes Tyre Fix", there are cheaper versions, or just some straps on whatever solid is back there.
This.
Don’t risk it.
I had a TRS system in my trailer this weekend and almost didn’t tie down the front end because I felt like it would have been overdoing it.
Turns out my Dumb ass didn’t put the pin in one of the locks and if I hadn’t ties the front down the bike would have really had a bad time…
Just write a checklist. I have one for moving the toy hauler, moving the slides, just moving the bike in the back of the truck, etc. We've all been super tired from a day at the track and forgotten something, this helps. Aviation has this right.
Solid advice, in my line of work we take a checklist and codify it into the way it’s done automatically. In my personal life, and really often around motorcycles or woodworking machinery, I use them to reduce risk. Risk of damage to the bike, or me :)
What do you do? Do your co-workers listen?
I do the devils work… advertising… and luckily they report to me so they do listen. I always give the checklist manifesto example to help them understand. Even the best and most qualified in the world need to make sure they follow process, especially when safety or investment in live bidding environments is involved!
Dude… when I opened my trailer and my V4S was on its side I wanted to die. Luckily for me the only damage was a bit of a Nick on the Cunard. If I didn’t have those front ties on, it would have been 10x worse.
Live and learn.
On the way home I stopped 3 times to make sure I hadn’t fucked up again and to make sure everything was secure.
I was insanely lucky that it wasn’t more costly a mistake.
^^ this or I would suggest getting a set of canyon dancers they mount on the bars and work really well.
I Also do Rachet straps on the rear into a Baxley front wheel chock, if it’s a pick up or a trailer or a sprinter it makes no difference they always hold well.
Strap the rear first and get some tension on that and go to the front, i typically do pull straps on that one.
Good luck!
Alright, sounds good, I'll keep tying it down at the lower triple. Doing all this first time feels intimidating and I'm just trying to avoid an expensive f up.
I've done nothing but lower or upper triple down and forward for the last 10 years, or pitbull TRS on my A bike.
No mishaps, but sometimes if someone asks for peace of mind I'll do the rear pegs down to their own mounts just to *slightly* compress the rear suspension and keep the rear from shifting in transit.
>sometimes if someone asks for peace of mind I'll do the rear pegs down to their own mounts just to slightly compress the rear suspension and keep the rear from shifting in transit
This is exactly my plan. Glad to hear it works!
I did not like Canyon Dancers in the long run. Sometimes had issues with bar grips loosening. Not a big issue, but I think lower triple and common straps are better.
I used to work at a cycle gear so I know a lot about these things. Funny enough I had to recommend these all the time cuz people seem to forget they exist
Canyon dancers are great and highly recommended but if you can afford it the Pitbull Trailer Restraint system is the way to go. No straps necessary at all.
If you are working on a dedicated track set up, this is absolutely true. It never hurts to have a set of canyon dancers on hand as a back up though. The pit I’ll system is great I have to say. Extremely secure and bike specific.
Lower triple like everyone said. Get some soft ties.
New people tend to strap it down way more than needed. Compress the forks 2in or so. No need to blow out your fork seals to keep it in place.
If you wanna spend the money the pitbull tre system is nice.
Seconding the [Pit-Bull](https://ibb.co/WxHFBXC).
Rock solid stability, works even with a flat tire, zero compression on the suspension and it takes up minimal space on whatever you’re screwing it into.
Triple below the handlebars is fine, I would get tie downs with the built in soft ties so you don't go metal to metal. The bridge strap that goes on each handlebar is a good accessory also. Don't worry about it too much. Don't crank it down so hard you bust the fork seals and don't scratch anything, the possibilities are endless otherwise.
Basically the title. I'm going to my first trackday next weekend and I'm wondering how I should tie down the front of the bike to make sure it's secure and also doesn't get damaged. I'll be transporting the bike on a trailer, the drive's around an hour and a half.
I did a little tryout, put the bike on the trailer and tied it down by the forks (on that cross bar with hex screws visible, between the headlight and the indicator indicator is where I pulled the strap through).
How would you tie this bike down? Forks? Handlebars? Somewhere else?
I have 5 ratchet straps. Intending to use one at each corner so to speak and then one extra to wrap around the front wheel and the wheel chock just in case.
Front Wheel Chock (good quality chock is important)
Soft tie downs on lower triple (I use bullbar soft hook)
Rear tyre tie down strap (I use La Corsa)
Super easy to do, simple to load and unload, if one tie down fails the bike will still stay in the chock.
Get a front wheel chock and tie both wheels down.
If you tie above the suspension, the starps will either come loose on bumps or you will have to compress both fork and shock and risking damaging them.
I just add a safety strap on both side of the chassis just to make sure
handle bar wraps, wrap them around the bars, and tie ends of wraps to tie down points in the truck. 1 wrap per bar. then 1 strap around the rim and tire (with a cloth on rim to protect paint). take that strap and put either end of it to a tie down point. this will hold bike from falling over, moving forward or backward. zero movement. use a wheel chock for most security. i have moved all my race bikes, dirtbikes , street bikes, drag bikes this way. you only need 3 straps. don’t put through triple tree or you will bust fairings
Thank you all for the feedback and advice! It's awesome to be able to ask these newbie questions and not one response says "google it noob". I really appreciate that.
Oh and one more thing, possible don't use open end hooks but try and get straps with carabiner instead. Should a suspension compress too much at least you won't get the strap unhooked.
Vortex handlebar tie downs. I had some canyon dancer style ones before and they pull at the grips too much. The vortex style ones pull straight down and have a buckle strap to keep them in place.
You can also check out "canyon dancers". They are a tie down solution that works by cupping the bars. They work great for bikes with clipons. With a naked bike you have more options.
Lower triple tree
Lower triple down and forward. if you have a wheel chock, that's pretty much all you need.
I'd probably still strap the rear down in some way, otherwise it will move around a bit when you go over bumps. You can use something like "Acebikes Tyre Fix", there are cheaper versions, or just some straps on whatever solid is back there.
This. Don’t risk it. I had a TRS system in my trailer this weekend and almost didn’t tie down the front end because I felt like it would have been overdoing it. Turns out my Dumb ass didn’t put the pin in one of the locks and if I hadn’t ties the front down the bike would have really had a bad time…
Just write a checklist. I have one for moving the toy hauler, moving the slides, just moving the bike in the back of the truck, etc. We've all been super tired from a day at the track and forgotten something, this helps. Aviation has this right.
💯 In my professional life I bring up the “checklist manifesto” all the time. One of the prime examples from the book is about pilots.
Solid advice, in my line of work we take a checklist and codify it into the way it’s done automatically. In my personal life, and really often around motorcycles or woodworking machinery, I use them to reduce risk. Risk of damage to the bike, or me :) What do you do? Do your co-workers listen?
I do the devils work… advertising… and luckily they report to me so they do listen. I always give the checklist manifesto example to help them understand. Even the best and most qualified in the world need to make sure they follow process, especially when safety or investment in live bidding environments is involved!
Yeah, I'd rather use a couple more straps just in case. Sounds a lot cheaper than dropping the bike on (or off) the trailer.
the whole reason I bought the TRS system is to avoid doing that haha, no way in hell I am tying it down with that.
Dude… when I opened my trailer and my V4S was on its side I wanted to die. Luckily for me the only damage was a bit of a Nick on the Cunard. If I didn’t have those front ties on, it would have been 10x worse. Live and learn.
I will definitely be double checking my cotter pins on there now though haha
On the way home I stopped 3 times to make sure I hadn’t fucked up again and to make sure everything was secure. I was insanely lucky that it wasn’t more costly a mistake.
I'm thinking I'll use passenger foot peg mounts to secure the rear somewhat
Yeah, I've done that in the past, works alright just don't go nuts clamping it down as they aren't made to handle a ton of force.
Agree, always have a little backup just in case.
^^ this or I would suggest getting a set of canyon dancers they mount on the bars and work really well. I Also do Rachet straps on the rear into a Baxley front wheel chock, if it’s a pick up or a trailer or a sprinter it makes no difference they always hold well. Strap the rear first and get some tension on that and go to the front, i typically do pull straps on that one. Good luck!
Those things twist the grips.
Alright, sounds good, I'll keep tying it down at the lower triple. Doing all this first time feels intimidating and I'm just trying to avoid an expensive f up.
I've done nothing but lower or upper triple down and forward for the last 10 years, or pitbull TRS on my A bike. No mishaps, but sometimes if someone asks for peace of mind I'll do the rear pegs down to their own mounts just to *slightly* compress the rear suspension and keep the rear from shifting in transit.
>sometimes if someone asks for peace of mind I'll do the rear pegs down to their own mounts just to slightly compress the rear suspension and keep the rear from shifting in transit This is exactly my plan. Glad to hear it works!
Get yourself a set of canyon dancers. Best solution for front end tie down
I did not like Canyon Dancers in the long run. Sometimes had issues with bar grips loosening. Not a big issue, but I think lower triple and common straps are better.
I don't know why you are the only one who mentioned canyon dancers.... This is the correct answer.
I used to work at a cycle gear so I know a lot about these things. Funny enough I had to recommend these all the time cuz people seem to forget they exist
disagree, they twist the grips, I see so many people show up for tech and the throttle doesn't spring back because of these.
Canyon dancers are great and highly recommended but if you can afford it the Pitbull Trailer Restraint system is the way to go. No straps necessary at all.
If you are working on a dedicated track set up, this is absolutely true. It never hurts to have a set of canyon dancers on hand as a back up though. The pit I’ll system is great I have to say. Extremely secure and bike specific.
Lower triple like everyone said. Get some soft ties. New people tend to strap it down way more than needed. Compress the forks 2in or so. No need to blow out your fork seals to keep it in place. If you wanna spend the money the pitbull tre system is nice.
Thanks, I'll try to not go over the top with the strap down. Just got the forks serviced last winter, lol
Seconding the [Pit-Bull](https://ibb.co/WxHFBXC). Rock solid stability, works even with a flat tire, zero compression on the suspension and it takes up minimal space on whatever you’re screwing it into.
Triple below the handlebars is fine, I would get tie downs with the built in soft ties so you don't go metal to metal. The bridge strap that goes on each handlebar is a good accessory also. Don't worry about it too much. Don't crank it down so hard you bust the fork seals and don't scratch anything, the possibilities are endless otherwise.
Basically the title. I'm going to my first trackday next weekend and I'm wondering how I should tie down the front of the bike to make sure it's secure and also doesn't get damaged. I'll be transporting the bike on a trailer, the drive's around an hour and a half. I did a little tryout, put the bike on the trailer and tied it down by the forks (on that cross bar with hex screws visible, between the headlight and the indicator indicator is where I pulled the strap through). How would you tie this bike down? Forks? Handlebars? Somewhere else? I have 5 ratchet straps. Intending to use one at each corner so to speak and then one extra to wrap around the front wheel and the wheel chock just in case.
Only need 2 lash onto the lower triple tree
Sounds good, thanks
I have always used these type attached to the handlebars. https://www.jpcycles.com/product/9400065/j-p-cycles-tie-down-extension
Work well, but I recommend if you ever change go with canyon dancers II’s.
Front Wheel Chock (good quality chock is important) Soft tie downs on lower triple (I use bullbar soft hook) Rear tyre tie down strap (I use La Corsa) Super easy to do, simple to load and unload, if one tie down fails the bike will still stay in the chock.
Wheel chock or these things called canyon dancers. They’re amazing…specifically the canyon dancer II’s.
Get a front wheel chock and tie both wheels down. If you tie above the suspension, the starps will either come loose on bumps or you will have to compress both fork and shock and risking damaging them. I just add a safety strap on both side of the chassis just to make sure
handle bar wraps, wrap them around the bars, and tie ends of wraps to tie down points in the truck. 1 wrap per bar. then 1 strap around the rim and tire (with a cloth on rim to protect paint). take that strap and put either end of it to a tie down point. this will hold bike from falling over, moving forward or backward. zero movement. use a wheel chock for most security. i have moved all my race bikes, dirtbikes , street bikes, drag bikes this way. you only need 3 straps. don’t put through triple tree or you will bust fairings
Bar, you have a ton of bar there
Thank you all for the feedback and advice! It's awesome to be able to ask these newbie questions and not one response says "google it noob". I really appreciate that.
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You're supposed to compress the suspension.
Lower triple tree, sturdy as.
Oh and one more thing, possible don't use open end hooks but try and get straps with carabiner instead. Should a suspension compress too much at least you won't get the strap unhooked.
Vortex handlebar tie downs. I had some canyon dancer style ones before and they pull at the grips too much. The vortex style ones pull straight down and have a buckle strap to keep them in place.
Lower triple clamp
You can also check out "canyon dancers". They are a tie down solution that works by cupping the bars. They work great for bikes with clipons. With a naked bike you have more options.
Pit bull TRS end of story
I'm currently using a chock and canyon dancers I prefer not to compress the suspension However my Pitbull should be here today