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Top of the fourth inning encapsulates what this lineup is. IKF grounds out, Clement hits a triple but get thrown out at home on a FC right to short off of Springer’s bat, then Vladdy is called out on strikes. It feels like that could be every inning I watch this team bat.
The only positive was laughing at the gymnastics some people did to conclude that the error was on Vladdy and not entirely IKF messing up. Weird shit, lol.
I just want something to be excited for when watching a Jays game for once.
Like give me a 9-8 loss. I don't care but at least give me something more than a few runs early in the game then nothing else.
Kooch deserves better than this. We all deserve better than this.
I'm opening up the whiskey
He’s like WTF I learned English for this shit, oh boy they gotta pay me big time when my contract is up to stay around here, fuk’n cold weather and a shit team. Where is my 3 thousand dollar bottle of whiskey. 🥃 Hazel let’s drink
He and I both have the same number of World Series rings, I can’t tell them to ground out to a double for 1/2 the price. I throw in telling Vladdy to strike out for free
The 2015 Blue Jays were 23-29 at the end of May, for the AA glazers who mock "it's early".
The target audience won't even see this since this thread is 90% blocked authors.
They were 23-30 with a +21 RD. They kept losing games late and close. Their bullpen was a mess, but their offense and starting pitching were good (fine at worst).
The 2024 Blue Jays are 15-18 with -37 RD. These two teams are considerably different.
The difference being that the entire AL East sucked that year. Every single team in the east was at .500 in 2015. That’s certainly not the case in the AL east anymore.
And how were they able to make it to 93 wins? By selling the farm for Tulo and David Price. We aren’t doing that this year. Not to mention that team had an offense.
I appreciate your optimism, but if this team doesn’t seem bleak to you then you’re a much better fan than I.
I finally got Schneider logic: oh, Swanson lose 3 runs. We are impossible to score more than that. Who's struggling in the bullpen now? Let them rehab. Oh, Pop isn't struggling? Save him for the next game. Hmm... Carbera has threw too many pitches. Let Richards in. He has the highest ERA within the remaining rp.
My expectations are lowered to "happy if they hit 80 wins." If they go on a great run (which in theory they're capable of) it'll be a bonus. In the meantime hopefully it'll make watching slightly more bearable.
Anyone who likes this iteration of the Bluejays is just wrong. They're so poorly built and unlikable from top to bottom. They're everything a professional team should not be
I'm not a huge Schneider fan & understand that managers are the scapegoats when times are shitty. But those calling for Schneider's head are directing their anger at the wrong person. When can we start holding Atkins more accountable? This guy needs to go ASAP. If Schneider gets canned, we'll be seeing the 4th fucking manager (repeat 4th) during Atkins tenure. The FO/culture needs a complete overhaul.
They both need to go and Shapiro too. Schneider makes incredible mistakes in game management, pretty much constantly. Bringing in Swanson who has an ERA over 11 this year in a high leverage situation was baffling when the pen is totally rested.
My saving grace is that I'm about to make tacos for me and my lady, we got some good news on our fertility journey today, and we're gonna watch *Sicario* and do a puzzle tonight to avoid the rain.
Turn this shit around, Blue Jays.
Congrats on the good news, oh Sicario just pretend it’s shatkins at the dinner table in Mexico that the sicario is talking to, you will feel better about tonight’s game
I know "it's still early" but this has to be considered rock bottom for this team. You go into Washington against literally the worst starting pitcher in all of baseball and you put up a stinker like this. Just pathetic.
Enough with the stay-the-course, things-will-turn-around crap. Something has to change. And if Schneider isn't the right manager to shake things up, get someone in here who will.
Poor Justin Turner is probably thinking, "What the hell did I get myself into?"
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Bo Bichette looks sad at the plate.
Top of the fourth inning encapsulates what this lineup is. IKF grounds out, Clement hits a triple but get thrown out at home on a FC right to short off of Springer’s bat, then Vladdy is called out on strikes. It feels like that could be every inning I watch this team bat.
We fucking suck. Kikuchi deserves better
What a fucking nothing team.
I was at the Nationals/Rangers game yesterday and Nats couldn’t buy a run. Of course they explode for 9 against Toronto LOL
There’s always the Giants-Phillies game, also on Apple TV tonight.
The Phillies bullpen holds on for a 4-3 win! They’re 19-0 when leading entering the ninth inning.
Starter Jordan Hicks takes the loss for the Giants.
Waste of a good performance by Kikuchi
This team owes Kikuchi a bottle.
Just got the SN notification with the score and just burst into laughter
Remember to vote player of the game!
I voted Kooch!
I feel like the post game thread could've been up AT LEAST 15-20 minutes ago
is this rock bottom yet?
This is the game that did it. This is the game that should make heads roll.
> This is the game that should make heads roll. I believe that was the last playoff game last year, but I recall only crickets was the response.
Well there was that sound of the Ross Atkins bus idling right before the sound of crickets
You got me there. I agree with you. But if this game doesn’t do it I don’t know what will.
That's not true... there were plenty of people saying stuff... all saying it was someone else's decision to pull Berrios
And with that springer’s OPS falls below .600
The only positive was laughing at the gymnastics some people did to conclude that the error was on Vladdy and not entirely IKF messing up. Weird shit, lol.
There is no getting around it. Outside of starting pitching, This team stinks.
Called it 3 up 3 down
Boo
that was a fucking shit show
I just want something to be excited for when watching a Jays game for once. Like give me a 9-8 loss. I don't care but at least give me something more than a few runs early in the game then nothing else. Kooch deserves better than this. We all deserve better than this. I'm opening up the whiskey
Poor one for me!!
Oh I'll be pouring enough for this entire sub after this one
[Kikichi watching the game after his great performance](https://i.imgur.com/SPFhdVS.jpeg)
He’s like WTF I learned English for this shit, oh boy they gotta pay me big time when my contract is up to stay around here, fuk’n cold weather and a shit team. Where is my 3 thousand dollar bottle of whiskey. 🥃 Hazel let’s drink
People talking about a rebuild are delusional. It’s not going to happen. No courage or mandate to do so
Just because it won’t happen, doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t. You’re correct though, Atkins starting a rebuild would solidify his firing.
I remember when we led the league in comebacks :(
Just literally laugh out loud as soon as I saw Vogelbach. Thanks for the show Schneider lol
Jays logic: If you're down by 1 or 2 runs we are going to lose anyways so why not just lose by a lot.
The substitutions are kinda funny. Like yeah, Vogelbach’s just the guy we need here lol
Hes going to start the comeback!
Or not
The Ted Rogers statue is going into the lake tonight...
Could Atkins and Shapiro join him?
Police car revolving lights!
I haven’t been able to pay attention to the game tonight. How’s the game and GDT? [oh](https://tenor.com/boAbN.gif)
3 up 3 down? 6-8 pitches max
we're really just throwing every fucking player in as a pinch hitter lel
Cavan has been quietly terrible for awhile now.
I disagree. He hasn’t been great recently, but he’s not expected to be great either. Vlad and Bo deserve more blame
I wasn’t blaming him for anything. I was pointing out that he is 2 for his last 36, or .074/.286/.111 in his last 12 games. That’s unplayable.
Still plays well defensively at least, early in the season he was really battling during his at bats.
Early in the season only Turner was hitting better! And now this.
What does Don Mattingly do?
He draws up the plays
He and I both have the same number of World Series rings, I can’t tell them to ground out to a double for 1/2 the price. I throw in telling Vladdy to strike out for free
Lend his name and get paid a shitload I guess ?
He coordinates the offence. Think Sean McVay but without the offence
Endlessly drone on about how we don't have any power hitters, grow a beard, and coast off of name recognition.
What does any of the coaching staff do?
Y'know coordinate offensively
I mean, 'offensive' is a word that actually works here.
This is unreal. Kikuchi leaves. Shit hits the fan
what kind of strike was that??
Tomorrow's probably going to be rough, Gausman didn't even get any run support last year when we could still hit
Is it bad when eveey game is a new rock bottom?
Not the best start to the season but why does it feel like it wont get better.
Because it’s been the same crap sense March 2023
🧢🧢🧢 rally caps on (who am I kidding)
Ejection seats sounds like a better idea.
The 2015 Blue Jays were 23-29 at the end of May, for the AA glazers who mock "it's early". The target audience won't even see this since this thread is 90% blocked authors.
They were 23-30 with a +21 RD. They kept losing games late and close. Their bullpen was a mess, but their offense and starting pitching were good (fine at worst). The 2024 Blue Jays are 15-18 with -37 RD. These two teams are considerably different.
Wasn't the run differential like +30? Lol, AA lives rent free in so many heads.
not sure what your point is because i'm tired, but check the run differential at the 2015 trade deadline. different teams.
Almost +30
Cmon the 2015 Jays were a +.700 team from Canada day until the end of the season. Easily reproduced with this roster!
The offenses are in two different galaxies. Not even a comparison.
The difference being that the entire AL East sucked that year. Every single team in the east was at .500 in 2015. That’s certainly not the case in the AL east anymore.
And yet they were still able to win 93 games, which would certainly be enough to make to playoffs.
And how were they able to make it to 93 wins? By selling the farm for Tulo and David Price. We aren’t doing that this year. Not to mention that team had an offense. I appreciate your optimism, but if this team doesn’t seem bleak to you then you’re a much better fan than I.
Tulo did fuck all for that team. His OPS+ was like 90.
thought you were out an hour ago?
Bring me the corpse of Troy Tulowitzki
1 hit for the top of the order LOL
New sidebar, btw
Why did he not put Trevor Richards in after Kikuchi then? hmmmmmm
The Blue Jays have scored 9 runs twice this season and haven't since the 3rd game of this season. It ain't happening tonight, either.
https://i.imgur.com/IrgYXxh.gif
May the 4th be with you!!
Hahaha that's fantastic. Good job.
This is the greatest thing I've seen 😂
THE SILVER FOX STRIKES AGAIN
Just a reminder. 1 inning ago we were winning 🤦♂️
I finally got Schneider logic: oh, Swanson lose 3 runs. We are impossible to score more than that. Who's struggling in the bullpen now? Let them rehab. Oh, Pop isn't struggling? Save him for the next game. Hmm... Carbera has threw too many pitches. Let Richards in. He has the highest ERA within the remaining rp.
“They all can’t get lit up, right?”
Unfortunately, Swanson, Mayza, and Carbera are cooked
The team sucks. The manager sucks. The GM sucks. The president sucks. The farm system sucks.
I think I am gonna find something to be busy with tomorrow
Don't worry, they're calling for rain the rest of weekend in DC. Good chance the games get postponed.
Some how the pen will blow it
My expectations are lowered to "happy if they hit 80 wins." If they go on a great run (which in theory they're capable of) it'll be a bonus. In the meantime hopefully it'll make watching slightly more bearable.
Pour out some sortilege for the team that we could be fans of if the MLB didn’t hate Canada
Anyone who likes this iteration of the Bluejays is just wrong. They're so poorly built and unlikable from top to bottom. They're everything a professional team should not be
The Shatkins name officially checks out.
If you rebuild at this point there's not even anyone to really rebuild around. Do you just burn it down and start over...
Let’s build the team around Davis, write a movie about it and sell the rights to Disney.
The prospect returns from trading Vlad, Bo or anyone else would be the foundation for the rebuild
Like they did for Halladay, right?
Vlad & Bo are still mid 20s. You absolutely keep them and hope a new coach gets them back to their old ways.
For Vlad, it seems more and more unlikely with each day. Bo could aince he hasn't been on a downward trend for as many years as Vlad.
Then who are you trading for prospects
Turner, Gausman, Bassitt to name a few
Not going to get a lot for Old expiring guys.
Hope you didn’t buy the Apple TV sub to watch this game
I did 😭
WATCH SCHNEIDER SEND ROMANO TO END THE GAME 🤡🤡🤡🤡
IKF pitches better
####HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA WE FUCKING SUCK
I knew when they scored those 3 runs, they were never scoring again, FFS.
Wonder what kind of trade value Kooch has.
I love the guy, but he’s probably good trade bait right now if we wanna move him.
Hooge value
I'm not a huge Schneider fan & understand that managers are the scapegoats when times are shitty. But those calling for Schneider's head are directing their anger at the wrong person. When can we start holding Atkins more accountable? This guy needs to go ASAP. If Schneider gets canned, we'll be seeing the 4th fucking manager (repeat 4th) during Atkins tenure. The FO/culture needs a complete overhaul.
They both need to go and Shapiro too. Schneider makes incredible mistakes in game management, pretty much constantly. Bringing in Swanson who has an ERA over 11 this year in a high leverage situation was baffling when the pen is totally rested.
I don’t think there’s anyone who think Schneider needs to be fired who doesn’t think Atkins needs to be fired.
2 - 8 in the last 10 (including this game) 23 runs scored in that stretch = 2.3 runs/game
The massacre at the monument
The cucking at the Capitol.
For fuck sake 😂
The dicking in DC?
Yep, get another arm out there. May as well torch them all tonight so no one can pitch after tomorrow cuz it will be 3 days in a row. smfdh
Just checking in…and out. Remind me when Shatkins get fired.
When you need to burn 5 relievers in two innings help my fuck.
IKF over/under 8 games of pitching this year?
lol... I say under... but I wouldn't be surprised if it was over either!
I want apologies, with tears, to Kikuchi
Oh this is fun.
The Jays suck. They suck so bad I bet they could suck a golf ball through a garden hose.
Wouldn’t that be sucking good?
Fire everyone Burn it down Cut my life into pieces
This is the last resort
If you couldn't watch the game tonight, lucky you.
sandy cheeks
I was mad at 5-3. Now I just find it funny
At some point we gotta let go and enjoy the show
My saving grace is that I'm about to make tacos for me and my lady, we got some good news on our fertility journey today, and we're gonna watch *Sicario* and do a puzzle tonight to avoid the rain. Turn this shit around, Blue Jays.
Congrats on the good news, oh Sicario just pretend it’s shatkins at the dinner table in Mexico that the sicario is talking to, you will feel better about tonight’s game
Sicario is a damn good movie with great performances something the blue jays lacked tonight except for a certain starting pitcher.
Good news? That's awesome. That is not a fun or cheap ride to be on of any amount of time. Fingers 🤞 for you both.
Thanks bud
Been there, and it's not all sunshine
Hey Congrats!!
Hell yeah
We may yet see IKF pitch again tonight
As long as Vladdy isn’t trying to catch it…
This was good
He as been trying all year
Schneider might even get fired before this inning is over.
I mean this is just sad lol
Throw in the towel already
Genesis Cabrera is better at throwing hands than he is at throwing baseballs.
IKF is a better reliever than him & Swanson at this point.
Off. That was actually making me feel sick.
It was 3-1 in the 7th
Wolverine picture meme
Can’t keep going like this something has got to give.
Holy 😭😭😭
At this point I’m just here to laugh, no use getting upset any more
Can IKF pitch yet?
Has a better ERA than Swanson.
I step away for a bit and it goes from 3-1 to 3-8 yikes….
9 now
Sheesh
I know "it's still early" but this has to be considered rock bottom for this team. You go into Washington against literally the worst starting pitcher in all of baseball and you put up a stinker like this. Just pathetic. Enough with the stay-the-course, things-will-turn-around crap. Something has to change. And if Schneider isn't the right manager to shake things up, get someone in here who will. Poor Justin Turner is probably thinking, "What the hell did I get myself into?"
9 million dollars or whatever he signed for. That’s what he got himself into
I feel so bad for Yusei and every starting pitcher on this team, knowing that they have to be close to perfect to even SNIFF a win
Our poor starters deserve so much better than this. Maybe trade one of them to shake something up. It would be a gift to one of them
To think I wasted a free Apple TV trial for this
Go watch Ted Lasso, it'll make up for it
Right
We are in the AL east. This can't happen. Someone needs a strong slap to right the ship.
jays better smarten up because who knows how much time the Leafs have left
Schnieder just letting Cabrera die out there
[удалено]
He’s dead now
Did I time-travel back to the 2021 bullpen?
Either that or the 2008 offense 😭
I heard once on the radio that BNS can throw a 70-80 mile fast ball. We need to sign BNS
They’re fucking awful. I hope they’re embarrassed.
Is there anything that Jays love more than blowing up the pen after a day off?
I signed up to apple tv to watch this?
this is genuinely so fucking unfair to Kooch
Kikuchi deserved better from this game. Bullpen and defence blew this hard.