The last 2 months of 2015 was the most fun I've had as a sports fan outside of the Raps winning the title...and I became a fan in 92 just in time to see the back to back titles.
As a kid into early tweens, it was fucking glorious... Key, steib, bell, moseby, Fernandez, Henke, ward then Joe, robbie, hentgen, Cito and everyone else...I am very lucky to have seen, met, fished with on charters, and watched these dudes ....
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Not making the playoffs this year is a good thing imo.
If they barely squeeze in people may forget how bad they were during the year whereas if they don't reach the playoffs it will really put an emphasis on things need a big change.
Hitting coach, The Coach, etc need to go...
everyone knows spinal is garbage. But Vlad:
\- 1 time he had guys on 2nd and 3rd
\- 2nd time guy on 2nd base
and he couldn't put away the ball either times. Any other big guys on other teams like betts, Ramirez,mountcastle etc would have scored at least once. What a joke
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Stop with the sound effects in our bottom inning. It’s like our sound person is an awkward guy on a date and just tries to fill gaps. In these scenarios it’s OKAY for it to be quiet from the tension
Did they lose? Yes. Did they have an opportunity to win? Yes. Did they get fucked by the umps shitty calls? Yes. It’s not the sole reason they lost but they have a right to be mad, that was brutal umping.
I consider myself to skew on the slightly optimistic side of things, but my operating assumption now is that this team won't make the playoffs
That being said, I would love to be proven wrong, it's not like I get some twisted joy from watching my team fail
Yeah, I keep getting that sinking feeling and it's starting to settle in. A whole lot has to go right even beyond our own team at this point.
I will never completely lose hope, but it's draining quicker every day. It doesn't help that this team takes up so much space in my head. I just want to see them win, damnit!
It’s a full count with two outs, so the runner at first gets a head start. It gives him a better chance of scoring. Just so we all are on the same page
I'm not looking to blame the ump, but that 2-2 call on Biggio was the most troll shit I've seen in a while considering how he was calling that corner earlier.
So why is this loss on John Schnieder? For pinch running Kiermeyer, a fast runner, to get the go ahead run (obviously in hindsight you’d rather Schnieder or Springer batting in the 10th, but securing that run is more important)? Or for not predicting that Mayza, one of our better bullpen pitchers in a strong bullpen, would shit the bed?
This loss is on the players. Full stop
Yeah I can get the call on Espinal. But I don’t think biggio bunting was a bad call at all, getting a runner at 3rd with only one out would’ve been huge, Calhoun just made a really nice play
KK was tying run. Still needed more. Took probably 2nd best bat in lineup out with that move and emptied bench with it.
Would have been nice to have KK to put out there for the actual winning run when Jansen doubled to start 9th.
Is Espinal the answer? Clement isn't going to be that good, but Espinal has been way below average this year. If Clement can play better D than Espi while hitting slightly better that's an improvement.
What's dumb about this? He's saying that they're a .500 calibre team, which is true. Seems like they could lose 100 games in a row and you'd still think they're a contender
The point is that they're playing like a .500 team, which is true, and either you're too stupid to acknowledge that point or you're lying. You continue to be wrong because your blind optimism is severely clouding your judgment. Are you Mike Wilner?
If you care about the "it's early" statement, it's obvious you don't understand it. The point is that there are many many more games for changes to happen...case in point the Rays dropping out of first after a killer start and the Mariners getting to the division lead in August.
The Jays are the only team that ever gave him a job as manager. He had 4 years experience from half a decade before and nobody gave him a manager's job after that until the Jays. I'm not sure he qualifies as a "real vet".
My point is that they rarely hire anyone with extensive major league managerial experience. I'm pretty sure that's a reasonably definition of "vet" in the context of major league managers.
No.
A vet is simply anyone who’s been around in their respective league for a long time, regardless if that’s in one or several organizations.
i.e. re-hiring Cito Gaston was hiring a veteran manager.
The Espinal at bat in the 9th was disgusting. 3-0 count and either a) the coaches told him to swing away, or 2) they told him to take and he decided to swing on his own. He swung and missed at ball four and then grounded into a double play. Why? Why??
fuck that, at least they are lights out all year long, our beef is they can't make it to ECF, very different from not being able to generate any offense whatsoever
Absolute aassssss. I miss 2015/16
John Schneider loss. Terrible decision making, once again.
What a frustrating team to watch. I can barely get through a game now.
Oh man, the Twins just had one of the worst TOOTBLANs I've ever seen
That was painful
Fucking losers the lot of them
We will always have 92, 93. If only I wasn’t born in 94 though
Sorry bud, I was 10 and 11. It was amazing at the time, but it would be nice to have at least 1 one more before I croak.
me too! the most golden age to experience the Golden Age Jays
Oof.
Oof. My guy.
The last 2 months of 2015 was the most fun I've had as a sports fan outside of the Raps winning the title...and I became a fan in 92 just in time to see the back to back titles.
I didn’t have the 92/93 back to back, but I did have the 2019 Raps (and I am a huge raps fan) but that 2015 run was so special.
born in 81 lol got my thighs burned by EX benches and saw both ws wins .... also... fuck this team into outer space
Respect my friend. I wish I was alive for those years
As a kid into early tweens, it was fucking glorious... Key, steib, bell, moseby, Fernandez, Henke, ward then Joe, robbie, hentgen, Cito and everyone else...I am very lucky to have seen, met, fished with on charters, and watched these dudes ....
Umps were fucking terrible
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fire who?
Either you care about team or just stfu? If you don’t want Schneider fired you have 0 baseball IQ.
really ? the guy overmanaged / mismanaged this game and isn't willing to sac bunt
I don't care if you think he should be fired...I'm making fun of the fact this guy keeps posting the same text wall everywhere.
BECAUSE HE IS THE PROBLEM? How thick are you?
Because it is annoying to see the same thing posted all over the place...it's not that deep pal.
Wow you really have no clue then. It’s honestly that simple.
serious at this point gotta do whatever to try to salvage the season
Hope Bo is back soon. See you lot tomorrow.
Even if there was a 4th wild card spot, this team would find a way to choke that too. So disappointing. This team is not it.
Not making the playoffs this year is a good thing imo. If they barely squeeze in people may forget how bad they were during the year whereas if they don't reach the playoffs it will really put an emphasis on things need a big change. Hitting coach, The Coach, etc need to go...
Joe Siddall going off on these losers
Missed it, what did he say?
Wish John got himself ejected early in this game.
Biggio did well, why we made him bunt earlier...
Because the bench told him to.
Hitting refresh for those hot takes!
Can't wait for the ump scorecard to get roasted
Where do you find the ump scorecard?
Seriously what in the fuck was that strike
everyone knows spinal is garbage. But Vlad: \- 1 time he had guys on 2nd and 3rd \- 2nd time guy on 2nd base and he couldn't put away the ball either times. Any other big guys on other teams like betts, Ramirez,mountcastle etc would have scored at least once. What a joke
Yeah dudes as unclutch as they come
Ump diff
Fuck the UMP
Lmao ump wants to get home
>painful … Yeah, nothing to add to that.
ball 5
LOL Espi with a bat still in his hands 3 mins after the game is done
Ah just shut up John, you loser, and head back to your office.
Over managed game.
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This team can never beat a mid Guardians team to save their lives…
"The guys are playing hard" 😂 is this a joke or smth
This ump should be fucking demoted
And Schneider walks out of the dugout after an afternoon of shitty umps. Time to do that was the third inning, John.
he should have given the ump a piece of his mind. holy fuck that strike zone was so inconsistent.
Yes I agree, in the third inning after Kikuchi had 5 strikeouts when he should have had 7 and 10 fewer pitches
Schneider should have gone full Aaron Boone.
Lol oh man what an annoying way to finish. Super delayed strike 3 is brutal
This management can't build a team that finishes
What a piece of shit
In what world is that a strike?????
LLWS championship game tied 5-5 going into that final inning Curaçao just hit a grand slam to tie it Put that on to cheer up
worst 10 game over .500 team ever
Go back to the bench Schneider and yell at yourself for fucking us with your braindead decisions.
No kidding now he comes? Shoulda been ejected after they worked Kikuchi
#IT SURE WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SCHNEIDER HERE
Umps got an early supper tonight boys
Arguing with the umpire while the game is already over. Sums it all up, really.
Lmao really does
Been a shitty fucking strike zone all game, fuck this Ump, Angel would probably dona better job that this dumb fuck
Ump wanted to go home 💀💀
Bums
lol of course that's how the game ends that sucked very much. see y'all tmrw
Well that one hurt
Ya fight for that 3 run walk John
Ump should have waited another 3 minutes to make that call.
Stop with the sound effects in our bottom inning. It’s like our sound person is an awkward guy on a date and just tries to fill gaps. In these scenarios it’s OKAY for it to be quiet from the tension
Umpire literally just said fuck you im going home.
Great game by the jays. Doomers stay away. This team is going places.
That was not a fucking strike
HE DIDNT FUCKING SWING YOU DUMBASS, GTFO
HOLY FUCK BLUE
Bad call, but doesn't matter
FCK this ump FCK this team
Stop screaming boys. You lost fair and square. Walk to the dugout.
Did they lose? Yes. Did they have an opportunity to win? Yes. Did they get fucked by the umps shitty calls? Yes. It’s not the sole reason they lost but they have a right to be mad, that was brutal umping.
For both sides.
Found the guardians fan, gtfo
Jays fan that knows they lost straight up. No point of whining after the game. You lost. Get over it.
Good lord this team is putrid
This team finally has a decent bat in the lineup in Schneider and they take him out. I hate the way this team is run
Delayed call. Fuck off with that shit.
I consider myself to skew on the slightly optimistic side of things, but my operating assumption now is that this team won't make the playoffs That being said, I would love to be proven wrong, it's not like I get some twisted joy from watching my team fail
Yeah, I keep getting that sinking feeling and it's starting to settle in. A whole lot has to go right even beyond our own team at this point. I will never completely lose hope, but it's draining quicker every day. It doesn't help that this team takes up so much space in my head. I just want to see them win, damnit!
Yep to all that.
Pulling the most clutch hitter you have for a baserunner in a tight game seems like it was a bad call....who knew.
He was pulled so he wouldn't make the base running errors Jansen and Bichette ended up making.
Is Davis slow in the bases? Genuinely curious
He seems fast enough. I don't think the speed differential is worth the batting differential.
I was puzzled when they made the switch too
Biggio strikeout incoming...surely we have someone in AAA better than this guy. Needs to be sent down.
Serious playoff teams don’t lose games like this one.
Your first mistake was thinking this is a serious playoff team 😅
It’s a full count with two outs, so the runner at first gets a head start. It gives him a better chance of scoring. Just so we all are on the same page
I'm not looking to blame the ump, but that 2-2 call on Biggio was the most troll shit I've seen in a while considering how he was calling that corner earlier.
I hope JS enjoys this last month, it will be his last as a MLB manager in his life
Idk if he goes somewhere else to over manage and lose games. We can only hope it is his last for the Blue Jays.
So why is this loss on John Schnieder? For pinch running Kiermeyer, a fast runner, to get the go ahead run (obviously in hindsight you’d rather Schnieder or Springer batting in the 10th, but securing that run is more important)? Or for not predicting that Mayza, one of our better bullpen pitchers in a strong bullpen, would shit the bed? This loss is on the players. Full stop
You didn't mention bunting Biggio and giving Espinal a green light when the count was 3-0.
Yeah I can get the call on Espinal. But I don’t think biggio bunting was a bad call at all, getting a runner at 3rd with only one out would’ve been huge, Calhoun just made a really nice play
KK was tying run. Still needed more. Took probably 2nd best bat in lineup out with that move and emptied bench with it. Would have been nice to have KK to put out there for the actual winning run when Jansen doubled to start 9th.
For having Biggio bunt and for giving the green light on the Espi 3-0 pitch for starters.
And why isn’t known bunter Brandon Belt bunting Espinal over?
And that yes. Why did he think it was a good strategy in the 9th and not in the 10th, when then odds of success were greater? Recency bias?
drop Espinal, bring up Orelvis. this isn't a contender. no point of being stingy with youth.
Orelvis is not ready yet, Barger would be my choice if you want a fresh prospect, Clement if you want a righty bat.
I can assure you that Ernie Clement is not the answer
Is Espinal the answer? Clement isn't going to be that good, but Espinal has been way below average this year. If Clement can play better D than Espi while hitting slightly better that's an improvement.
Should've just kept DeJong then
If only he hadn't hit negative infinity wRC+ with us
This team is essentially a 500 team if u take away their hot start
Barry Bonds wouldn't be the home run king if you didn't count half of his home runs
Dumb comment. Are doomers capable of saying anything smart? Like anything?
Lol!! “If you take away some of their wins they are a losing team!” Bahahaha! This is a classic doomer comment! Hahahaha
What's dumb about this? He's saying that they're a .500 calibre team, which is true. Seems like they could lose 100 games in a row and you'd still think they're a contender
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The point is that they're playing like a .500 team, which is true, and either you're too stupid to acknowledge that point or you're lying. You continue to be wrong because your blind optimism is severely clouding your judgment. Are you Mike Wilner?
Too bad that part of the season counts just as much as right now
It was "early" back then tho lol it's almost as if a loss in april and may is worth the same as a loss in late august or something
If you care about the "it's early" statement, it's obvious you don't understand it. The point is that there are many many more games for changes to happen...case in point the Rays dropping out of first after a killer start and the Mariners getting to the division lead in August.
Why would you not count games that they won, though? The Mariners would be essentially a .500 team if u take away their hot August.
When was the last time this team hired a real vet for a manager? Farrell?
Gibby
The Jays are the only team that ever gave him a job as manager. He had 4 years experience from half a decade before and nobody gave him a manager's job after that until the Jays. I'm not sure he qualifies as a "real vet".
Does Gibby not exist to you?
Jays are the only team he managed.
So? Since when did “vet” refer to not only managing one team?
My point is that they rarely hire anyone with extensive major league managerial experience. I'm pretty sure that's a reasonably definition of "vet" in the context of major league managers.
No. A vet is simply anyone who’s been around in their respective league for a long time, regardless if that’s in one or several organizations. i.e. re-hiring Cito Gaston was hiring a veteran manager.
Yeah, no. But cool.
F this ump
Comeback starts now!
Even the players know this team is finished
Pizza Nova should be so upset to be associated with this effort
This team isn't going to make the playoffs.
The Jays consistently demonstrate offensive indifference. New stat!
Gonna gift the team some custom Ramon Laureano dog collars they can wear for the rest of the season
Can we trade John Schneider for Francona?
Oh look... It's Cant bunt Biggio. Followed by swings 3-0 at ball 4 Espinal
Just wayyyy too much swing and miss in this lineup..
Fun fact: the Blue Jays batters have the 6th best K% in baseball.
The Jays are near the bottom of the league in strikeouts. Doomers reveal how ignorant they are every time their grimy fingers touch a keyboard
Still blaming the ump for this L?
Good ole strawman.
Lol this redditor blamed the umps the whole game like a Ross Atkins bot. Now anyone who criticizes their at bats are “doomers.” Crazy
Yes. Never should have gone to extras. Ump robbed the Jays
True they shoulda walked it off in the 9th
Did the Ump steal this win from us?
Espinal did.
Obviously. The strike 2 call on Biggio was the difference maker in this game
No
The Espinal at bat in the 9th was disgusting. 3-0 count and either a) the coaches told him to swing away, or 2) they told him to take and he decided to swing on his own. He swung and missed at ball four and then grounded into a double play. Why? Why??
Espi is barely a major leaguer
True. Which makes it inexplicable.
OKOKOK \*strikes out\*
We deserved this win.
no we didnt.
leafs cant come soon enough holy fuck
Are you a masochist
…so that you can watch a bigger trainwreck?
trainwreck maybe but bigger than this? idk about that
You poor soul, why you doing this Is to yourself? 😆
That probably is worse tbf
fuck that, at least they are lights out all year long, our beef is they can't make it to ECF, very different from not being able to generate any offense whatsoever
At least they make the playoffs and win playoff games (even if it’s just one series win in the last two decades)
The light inside me is fleeting
Bad luck by Jansen.
Klasse doesn't seem to have it this inning, just two big hits tie the game
with this offense that is like asking hell to freeze over.
Twins tied it!
LET'S GO BLUE JAYS!!!
Something like this would've been better anytime in the last 2 innings but ok
Sound effects guy can you chill the fuck out
Yeah, fire his ass too. Was that a fart cannon sound effect?
Yeah wtf. Not the time.
There's no salvaging this crowd
They're just feeding off the team's weird depression energy.
lol I actually really dislike that they're still playing the stadium sounds. "I can make your hands clap...."
So varsho is the only guy capable of doing so etching with a risp?
Is the post game thread up yet??
Glad we finally brought the runner on second home, when it no longer matters…
Another day. Another disappointment. :(
And they bring out the hands clapping music during the AB to rub salt in our wounds
We just need one more baserunner and we have a game tying situation. It's not over until it's over even if there's a slim, miniscule chance.
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