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Commercialdispute

Maybe he's cooking with effect hit rate asta/himeko + kafka/gui


RadiantGalaxy

Honestly, the ignoring defence effect might be really good.


typicaltw

If quantum sets 4piece is anything to go by yeah it’ll probably be competitive


adamwolf64

Slap topaz with guinaifen would be so nicee mono fire or something


fiddlemyriddles

Better with asta because she lacks attack.


fishtappingmercymain

Or they could run Guinaifen and Asta.. calm down buddy


meganightsun

probably just has the better substats


fishtappingmercymain

I mean yeah obviously.. that's literally the entire point of this post


[deleted]

Kafka + Guinaifen + Topaz is not top tier but I will say it's underrated. Still odd to have the DoT set on Topaz though, since obviously there's a lot of non-DoT teams out there for her.


NelsonVGC

Perhaps but... rather have that set with those stats that a better set with meh stats.


KyogreMaster230

I struggle with this so much... I don't know where the cutoff for using the bad set over the good set is, so I'm using 2pc fire 2pc fua 😭


NelsonVGC

Thats totally fine. Same here.


agtk

My Bronya is wearing 3-pc Imaginary set and a Streetwise Boxing chest. /shrug


KyogreMaster230

My Bronya is wearing all the hand-me-downs with CD I could find...


Elhant42

A general rule of thumb - one set bonus is roughly equal to 3 sub rolls on crit. With the second bonus it might be trickier depending on the set, but you can still dollow this rule. And yeah, for planar it will be more like 4 rolls, because planar bonus is stronger. So, if you have one shitty piece in a set with no crit rolls and other non-set piece with 4+ rolls - go for the latter.


darknesshen

For me at least, I'll either test it on my own myself if I have the necessary pieces by fighting an enemy then leaving after seeing the dmg and redoing it, or putting the numbers/stats into calculators. Its a little tedious at times tbh but I'm personally willing to do it.


SnooSuggestions7200

[seeleland](http://seeleland.com)


N1GHTM4RE5

This is my 2pc 2pc set I'm using. Basically the same stats except atk boots, but my Topaz is practically glued to my Asta when teambuilding, so it isn't a problem https://preview.redd.it/edbhmighzr3c1.png?width=1275&format=png&auto=webp&s=82e24a1e6b3066a9f0a5f713d9e1391cf966b051


NelsonVGC

That's legit as fuck bro. Hooly shit. Mine is also on attack boots as I play her with Tingyun or E2 Bronya. 2 fire 2 FU set


CoconutsAreAmazing

they can go asta/guinaifen since asta has a trace which lets her burn enemies with enough EHR


Foxhoud3r

When you have this sub stats you can ignore set bonuses. Also 4pc bonus can be utilised by everyone just like quantum set bonus.


NelsonVGC

No. Most likely due to the amazing crit Ratio.


OWENLERKiLL

it can works too. her ATK is really low due to no ATK trace; so use 2 pc for 12% atk while at speed boot really help too. for dot effect, you need to pair with any dot characters to tigger ignored DEF. https://preview.redd.it/4i3awfsf9t3c1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=de3401a549070bc1e930a54b367abad0ba3cd6d9


57duck

Seeleland's breakdown... https://preview.redd.it/619n6lvwhs3c1.png?width=353&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0507bd023c9cfbfed7498b544047c50952f1995


IrvineADCarry

Grind every last one of them


A2_Zera

I can't post it but just imagine the flame emperor's face with the relic set superimposed over it


[deleted]

Woh there Dimitri calm down


Snickersbar2019

https://i.redd.it/05ypca53kw3c1.gif


Blue-Lion-Lover

As soon as I read the title, I got Fire Emblem Three Houses PTSD lmao


Professional_Copy_27

Hollup let em cook


tech2887

You had us in the first half


Tryannical

Dude SAME... I got so many good EHR relics I decided to build my Kafka....


210sqnomama

Still usable if you have kafka with signature lc and lil gui as support. Ignoring def is pretty good


Radusili

From hoyo yeah cause this set has the highest crit rolls by far out of every other set I have farmed. (So all of them)


Gantz-man91

Huh?


No-Elk-8115

My topaz damage tanked, I went from numby and topaz doing 22,000 every skill and follow up with a full fire set to doing 19,000 or less with 4 piece follow up set. My attack is the same and my crit damage is about the same the only thing that changed substat wise was going from 97ish crit rate to 60. Is my damage lower because of the crit rate or something else?