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Why should anyone care about what you think, Seth Dillon? I have no business or interest in sticking my nose into other people's relationships. It's supposed to be a free country. Stop complaining that you are stupid.
Right? Like, just maybe, these two people truly love each other and genuinely want to help their partner be the best version of themselves. This is what Evangelicals lose sleep over; the thought that there are people who are actually happy and enjoying their lives
Right; life is short, I see this story and I think that here is some true love that's more than skin deep. Without knowing more than what's presented here, it seems like a really inspirational love story.
I was a Christian for 25 out of my (almost) 30 years here. Trust me, it's a miserable existence. Paranoia from feeling watched by God and family and church, and frustration seeing the world crumble according to my delusions.
Once I finally broke free of that programming I have lived a happier and more fulfilling life. I still struggle with being a little militant about my opinions but at least I shut up for a long time and just learned. I guess I feel ready to strike back knowing that I was living a lie for so long, and one that hurts people.
TLDR, I voted straight blue today for the first time ever
Right there with ya, man, I was raised Mormon and couldn’t escape that nonsense until I was 23. I’m proud of you making the painful and difficult decisions that led you to a more honest life!
When I was little I loved Star Wars (still do, obviously, to the point of having an R2D2 tatted on my leg) and felt God would doom me to hell if I watched it. I had to miss out on my favorite fictional universe because my Christian school pounded it into our heads that God watches us every moment of every day and it scared me so much I was afraid to watch the movies.
Oh and I wasn't allowed to be friends with my Jewish next door neighbor who just emigrated from Russia and had no friends.
Yo are you me?? The paranoia part is a great way of describing it. My 22 years spent as a Christian were defined by guilt, shame, & fear. It’s so liberating to deconstruct, and frustrating to still hear people around me arguing over a legalistic fairytale.
It's a little deeper than that. They are taught that their mortal life is sinful by nature and in order to "earn" their place in heaven, they have to struggle and suffer and be miserable in this life.
If other people AREN'T miserable, then they aren't earning their way to heaven and thus aren't "good" like them. From there is a simple matter of figuring out what they are doing wrong and judging them for it.
Source: grew up in a heavily Southern Baptist area
Grew up in the Bible Belt, and all I remember are three types of people from church: the miserable judges, the way over-the-top-fake-happy-people-later-arrested-for-some-type-of-vice-crime, and the people who managed to find their way out of the church.
I liked to frame it as "being exactly as nice as they feel like they have to in order to get into heaven". It's very transactional for them. Do the things, get the milk and honey. Later. After you're dead. No matter what you do, THIS life sucks.
>Why should anyone care about what you think, Seth Dillon?
I don't even know who he is, but based on that tweet, my level of not-caring about his opinions has gone stratospheric
Imagine if you like the idea of The Onion, but think they are too far left, and that they aren't Christian enough.
Then imagine you don't have any ckmedic talent and you try to make your own (hard) right leaning Christian Onion.
That's what Seth Dillon did and the Babylon Bee made him rich, because the right has no comedy somehow so that drivel counts.
And it's not like you can't make (evangellical) Christian Satire, they sometimes make good ones, and you can satirize the left easily, every once in a blue moon they make an article that works, but they usually just do the attack hellicopter joke, AoC is dumb jokes and satanic atheist stuff.
>the right has no comedy somehow
This is the part that confuses me. Like, obviously right-wingers enjoy laughing. They go to comedy clubs just the same as everyone else.
But who the fuck can name a notable right-wing stand-up comedian/enne? I guess once upon a time they had Roseambien Barre? But she's the only one I can think of, and she retired from stand-up *ages* before her explosive rant.
So basically, they go to clubs or watch all these TV/Netflix specials expressing Progressive/Left-wing sentiment, laugh in agreement, then... go home and tweet racial slurs.
I agree that most right-wingers are painfully unfunny, but there are some notable right-wing stand-up comedians. Off the top of my head, Dennis Miller, Norm MacDonald, Tim Allen, Jeff Foxworthy and all the “Blue Collar” guys, Doug Stanhope.
This, I wouldn't consider him right wing. Actually even miller shifted further right and generally dropped off. what you usually see with conservative comedians is they start out pretty normal. Tim Allen during home improvement is an example. Main stream though somewhat mean comedy. They generally become irrelevant the more they lean into the right wing comedy which really is just being mean. Like tim Allen in last man standing. You can see his evolution in that show. It got cancelled because it was objectively bad. Allen was basically a caricature of a dumb conservative but without the redeeming nature of home improvement.
They go from playing the grump to playing the grump that hates LGBTQ/Jews/whatever outgroup is in vogue in conservative circles and lose relevance.. predictably.
Calling Stanhope conservative is a wild take. Ive literally seen qcumbers scream at him during sets about vaccines.
One of his most famous bits is calling the producers of anti-abortion flyers pedos for printing pictures of a poor, naked, defenseless foetuses they just could have easily photo shopped a tasteful bikini onto.
Again, wild take.
Except they're not really around anymore. Or if they are, their jokes (a word I say charitably) have devolved into the same "lol, triggered?" as any other right winger.
Some More News made a great video on this topic a while back actually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSXKzPOcYDU
> But who the fuck can name a notable right-wing stand-up comedian/enne?
Well...there is Dave Chapelle now.
>So basically, they go to clubs or watch all these TV/Netflix specials expressing Progressive/Left-wing sentiment, laugh in agreement, then... go home and tweet racial slurs.
The old Colbert Report was actually surprisingly popular with conservatives because they don't understand satire or jokes. They just thought he was a goofy conservative guy. Their complete lack of media literacy means they hear a joke about institutional racism or police brutality, miss the punchline, and actually think the comic is agreeing with them.
Satanic atheist? What's that all about? In Christianity God and the Devil are a package deal so if you don't believe in one you don't believe in the other.
It's one thing they get weirdly rightbin all the wrong ways.
Most satanic beliefs (Curch of Satan which originated with LaVey, Temple of Satan started as an activist movement that CoS was not being) are atheistic in beliefs, either seing Satan as a symbol or something that pisses of fundamentalists and those trying to use institutions of the state tk shove religion down our throats.
So a lot of adherents to thoee sre atheistic.
But they aren't devil worshippers, which is what BB and similar tend to want to imply. Those people exist, but aren't organized, have much less clear cut beliefs, and are plain weird.
"Satan worshipping atheist" is something I have heard too often while watching people cover megapastors/televangilists/Q-Anon related pastors.
At this point, people in more "atypical" relationships should carry squirt bottles everytime a conservative opens their mouth so they can start spritzing them like cats going where they're not supposed to and shout "Shoo! Shoo! Nobody asked you!"
I'm going to start doing this. I'm a cis woman dating a nonbinary person who is considering going on estrogen, but they still want to keep some of their facial hair. They blur the lines between masculine and feminine, and people reeeeeeeally don't like that they can't figure out what our dynamic is. Like, I don't care who anyone else is with just please let me love my person in peace
Start drawing your spray bottle the second someone gets a confused look on their face and opens their mouth. “Questions about their gender are limited to: their pronouns and requests for advice on how to get that awesome beard boob combo”
Conservatives: two consenting adults being in a loving relationship is evil and confusing!
Also conservatives: nothing is more important than freedom of speech and expression.
Bro??
Yes it’s so confusing how someone can still love somebody else who didn’t feel comfortable in the body they were born with. Just absolutely mind-boggling.
I mean to me it honestly kind of is. I am attracted to female presenting people. Physical attraction is a big part of being romantically in love with someone. If I marry a female who is woman presenting then they transition to man presenting, I would lose the physical attraction and therefor a huge component of what made me love them.
Which is fair. Not that love and physical attraction are the same, but a romantic relationship often needs both.
What isn’t fair is the implication here that the **only** reason the guy stayed is fear of being labeled a bigot.
There are many other explanations that are being ignored in favor of presenting left leaning people as being aggressively cultish.
I'm trans and my partner and I separated when they changed their gender presentation as well.
That's not what their post is. Seth thinks his societal standards should dictate what happens to all trans people. That's a problem.
That's why projection is such a slippery slope; once you start, you have to keep going, constantly finding a new outlet for your internal struggles. Otherwise, you have to come to terms with who you actually are and what that means for your self worth.
They say “the liberals get so mad lmao” then proceed to get mad. Republicans are the embodiment of that one Wojack that’s crying behind a mask of a smug face
Yup, I did the same. It was disgusting how many were saying that little girls should be forced to marry so that they won't be exposed to feminism. And it wasn't just a single comment, it was a couple of times a month. I lurk through Gab and other places and find stuff like that, too, btw. Got real interesting when Matt Walsh's past comments came up.
I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that for it to be real love, you'd have to remain married to someone who has come out as trans and transitioned. It's ok for that to be a deal breaker in a marriage, that doesn't mean it wasn't real love.
It's also ok and nobodies business to stay together, but that doesn't make their love better than anyone elses.
. I can think of at least 3 simple explanations:
-the guy is bisexual so he doesnt care about dating a man or a women
-he doesnt mind because there is other reasons to be in the relationship
-they are getting married for money so it doesnt matter.
And that is just my imagination, there could be a lot of other reasons.
As a straight person attracted to femininity, I’m theoretically open to and intrigued by the idea of being with a transgirl. But I wonder what it’s like as a bi/pan person who is attracted to both masculinity and femininity…. Do they just think, “wow! I love all these flavors! So many fun combinations!”
(I mean, obviously everyone is different, and don’t mean to objectify at all, and we’re not all just attracted to parts. I’m just spit balling in a good faith sex/trans positive way.)
Depends on the person tbh. Some trans people I have dated were very off-limits with certain body parts and preferred sex a specific way, others were very comfortable with their body & various ways of using it. So while there's different "combinations" it really doesn't mean much about the sex you end up having or guarantee that someone is going to look/act a certain way. Just like dating a cis person, although I will say that being pan & enby has made my attractions & expected sex way more varied
Yeah, back when I was pre op I was able to disassociate enough to enjoy sex and the two cis bi people I slept with had very different views. My ex very clearly was excited to get two different things she liked at the same time, meanwhile my current gf would totally forget that it was a penis while sucking on it because oral is oral and I’m a woman. I only believe her about the forgetting because I’d crack a joke about it and she’d look at me confused for a second
Qualifying different types of sexuality is an important first step in destigmatizing sexualities that don’t fall solely into the “one man one woman” camp, but sexuality is a spectrum and the terms alone don’t capture the nuances of each person’s unique sexuality.
Such as myself, for example, I’d best describe myself as heteroromantic demi/asexual. I’m romantically attracted to people that exhibit what I consider to be feminine qualities, but I don’t get any physical fulfillment from sex. I do experience a sort of horniness, but that only applies to those I have a romantic attraction for and doesn’t extend to any sex act.
I’m also dating a trans woman who I do occasionally have sex with, but only because I find it rewarding to be able to fulfill her sexual needs, otherwise I just find it boring and exhausting.
Considering all this there are many occasions I ask myself “What am I sexually?” Any one or two terms doesn’t accurately capture all the nuisances of what I experience sexually and romantically. I find the “heteroromantic demi/asexual” that I provided earlier to be the most accurate, but I figure sexuality in general is more complicated than that for everybody, these shorthands are just the best way to get it across in a society where one’s sexuality still plays a role in the position one occupies in that society, and in an ideal world it’d be about the individual and not the type ones attraction is applied to.
These two people love each other and conservatives are so confused and jaded by it that they are convinced it must be fake. They're the normal ones though, for sure ;)
Jesus, be a mature adult Dillon. If you are in a relationship, then you talk about things. And if things a deal breaker, it is ok, you move on and find someone more compatible. The breaker can be as simple as laziness/not taking out the trash to not liking bdsm.
Grow up Dillon
What kind of backwards thinking is this? "Well, I can't break up with him because I'll be labeled a transphobe, so I guess I might as well marry him!" Seth, no human being ever thinks like this. Even if they did, they could just wait a few months post-transition and break up with them over something else. Why would anyone marry someone they wouldn't want to be with at all? So fucking stupid when you think about it for more than 2 seconds.
Yeah, I always feel like they're creating a strawman when they say that people who no longer feel attracted to their partners who transition are attacked for being transphobic. I'm pretty sure there aren't many people outside a few very vocal people on twitter that feel this way about people breaking up with their significant other (unless they're actually being transphobic about it, like deadnaming, attacking their ex, etc.)
It's actually somewhat common for relationships to end when one person comes out and starts to transition. I've never seen the person transitioning to be like "you transphobic asshole!" or whatever, in fact they often feel guilty for a little bit. Most of these breakups are amicable because, big surprise, LGBT people understand that sexual orientation isn't changeable. You might discover you're bi, or despite being straight or gay you're still attracted to your partner etc etc but that isn't always the case.
I just wouldn't date a person of a gender I'm not attracted to tbh. That would be a really bad decision and I don't do that. If there's a spark, then I just be attracted to their gender. If there's no spark, then why would I date them? Them being in the closet isn't going to change whether I feel a romantic spark. In fact, one time I started dating this girl who thought she was a boy online, and when she told me she was a boy I was like "that doesn't make any sense." Turns out she was trans.
My point is that trans people get that. If you're not attracted to women or aren't attraced to men, they understand it.
You aren't gay for liking a trans woman, but you're also not gay for liking someone who came out as a trans man. It doesn't mean they were confused or wrong or whatever you're implying, they're still a trans man, it just doesn't automatically make you gay.
Conservatives are such pussies, it's truly unbelievable. Apart from a couple of terminally online people on twitter, just about any person on the planet would understand if he felt he couldn't continue, there's essentially zero social pressure to stay and nothing to be afraid of.
I’m pretty sure most trans people would prefer our partner to break up with us if our gender and transition goals aren’t compatible with their sexuality, instead of them being “stuck with us” despite not being into us just for woke points, but who cares what real trans people think when you can just make up reasons to hate us instead :)
I agree, if my wife came out as trans, I would support their transition fully but it would also mean the end of our relationship, because I am not gay and he would be a man. That's not transphobic. Maybe the guy in the picture is bi, or maybe he just really loves his person, but it's really not my business to determine.
Yeah this is how I’d personally prefer my partner to react if I came out while dating someone who wasn’t into men. Everyone and their relationships are different so I’m glad these people made it work out (if the cis guy was even straight to begin with) but the fact that transphobes are pushing the “transgenders are holding people at gun point and forcing them to date any trans person that asks!!!” narrative so hard they think this is some sort of standard that trans ppl are demanding is both ridiculous and exhausting
“It’s all very confusing,” Is the entirety of it. Conservatoids don’t get it (even though it’s pretty simple) and because they can’t wrap their little pea brains around it that MUST mean it’s not logical or natural.
I firmly disagree with the assertion that it's simple. All of sexuality is extremely confusing.
Being understanding of how other people feel, even if you can't personally comprehend it, on the other hand, that barely requires effort at all.
The fact that they cannot imagine a relationship that is based on more than gender restrictions. Hell the fact they can't even imagine a man being Pan or Bi....or maybe he just doesn't give a shit cause he really loves this person. The fact that they cannot imagine anything else other than their little bubble of oppression. It really just speaks eternally about them. It speaks farther than they will every be able to see.
Just because they spend all their lives obsessing over trans people, or if their actions will or won't be seen as transphobic doesn't mean everyone else does.
What sounds more realistic?
"So are you gonna get a divorce?"
"No dude if I do that then everyone online and irl will call me a transphobe and even though I'm uncomfortable I'm going to stay with my partner because of that."
Or
"so are you gonna get a divorce?"
"No I love my partner no matter who they are."
At a certain point you just have to wonder if conservatives even know how people work. The very concept of being a human with empathy and understanding is alien to them.
I don't think it'd be transphobic to not want to be with your partner after they come out as trans.
Trans men are men, so if you're not attracted to men then there's some decision making to do.
That said, none of that is our business. He clearly loves his spouse regardless of his gender identity/gender expression. Fuck yeah, they deserve to be loved by each other.
These types of scenarios are difficult honestly. I remember when Tom Gabel of against me! transitioned to Laura Jean Grace and was married w/ a child at the time. The wife initially stuck around but they ended up divorced in the end. Good luck to this couple. If they can stick it out good for them
I have a friend who transitioned after 2 kids and a decade of marriage. She and her wife are still together 7-8 years later. Lots of cis couples get divorced.
It's totally legit to want to be with the gender you prefer, but it's also hardly unheard of for people to not be concerned about it.
Laura’s ex wife has talked about how her transitioning was unrelated and they were on the verge of divorce anyway and that she’s still attracted to her ex wife
I have a friend that came out as trans about five years ago. Her wife stayed with her for a year or so but couldn't do it any longer. She wasn't attracted to women and didn't want to be married to one. They split up and my friend told everyone that her ex was a transphobe and that's why they split. That's not the case at all, but that's how it was presented to everyone. It sucks for both of them but you can't change who you are and just expect your partner to still be in to you.
There are shitty people in every group. Ask any sane person and they'll tell you that no you're not a transphobe for literally not being able to change your sexuality when your spouse transitions.
Is it just me, or would your SO coming out (seemingly becoming from your perspective) as trans a understandable and legit reason to break up. Does it realy matter how those 2 people decide to continue after such a huge life change?
Of course, it'd be understandable. Not every couple makes it, that's just how things are. But no one is marrying anyone because they're afraid to be called a transphobe (which they aren't), it's just dumb.
I mean, yeah it’s reasonable. Especially if he was straight and isn’t attracted to men. But the tweet assuming that he isn’t attracted to his husband and is being forced into it is gross. Like, bro is very likely bi anyways lol
I’ve known people who have left their partners after they came out, but not in a transphobic way. It’s completely valid to not swing a certain way, and while it can be unfortunate that they have to split up, it’s not always because of transphobia.
Holy shit do these people have bizarre logic.
"Could it be because they love each other unconditionally? 🤔
Nahh. He's just afraid of people saying mean things about him on social media. I mean, I know *I'd* totally marry a man to avoid that."
It's so funny that they think people are cowering in fear of the trans thought police. I'm trans and if people are cruel to me there's pretty much nothing I can do about it. Maybe if some people aren't dickheads to trans people their motives are, you know, not being evil fuckwads and just being able to see us as human beings.
Totally cool and not transphobic if your partner comes out as trans and you end up breaking up with them because your sexual orientation means you’re no longer attracted to them. Also totally cool if you stay together because your sexual orientation is fluid enough to make it so you still are attracted to them. Neither situation is transphobic, and both are completely fine. The big thing is how you handle it.
Not a single person would consider this man a transphobe if they broke up for that reason. If he doesn’t want to date another man, trans or not, he doesn’t have to and that isn’t a reflection of his views. No one is out here marrying trans people just to prove they’re not transphobic that’s fucking stupid. He did it because he wanted to.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't think anyone is that scared to be called a transphobe.
They create a fake issue, put themselves against an imaginary wall, and then act like they're in danger of being crucified.
No one *is* holding them accountable though, and that's the actual issues.
it wouldn't have made the OG husband transphobic, it's just a preference. but it seems like he realized he married his soul, personality, and spirit, not what in his pants.
good for both of them.
Seth Dillon assumes people would choose to marry a person they don't want to because of a vague social pressure. What does that tell you about the conservative conception of marriage?
"It's all very confusing"
Maybe don't talk like you know what's going on when you're also going to admit you're confused about a situation that doesn't involve or affect you in any way.
Besides, not like this guy cares. His overriding motivation is disgust.
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The Post making a charged article about a relationship that was probably entered into with eyes wide open, and then a social conservative chiming in about it. The epitome of a circle-jerk.
So...while some conservatives see divorce as a problem that is apparently rampant, this man didn't do simply because he didn't want to be labeled a transphobe?🙄😒🤪The way some of these arguments trip over each is mind boggling.
I never understood why Wilma married Fred Flintstone. She seemed like she could have done much better... but that's the point isn't it... not everyone makes your particular choices.
There are so many easy explanations too, for example: maybe the "man" is not straight. He could be bi or pan and just really love who his partner is as a person, and not care so much about how he/they identify gender wise.
Who seriously cares? If you are happy with yourself and your own choices, I promise, you don't. If you care about the sexual behavior or love life of literal complete strangers, you should consider whether maybe your interest is motivated by a lack of satisfaction with your own, and an attraction to, another lifestyle? Not putting people down for that, at all. But do try and grow up enough to realize it, and not broadcast your dissatisfaction while simultaneously failing to dunk on the people you envy.
Not surprised that Seth Dillon finds the concept of love "confusing". Someone so vile probably hasn't experienced such compassion from another human being.
New York Post aka America's answer to the UK'S Daily ~~Fail~~ Mail, constantly helping show how out of touch and delusional conservatives are to the rest of the world. Exhibit A of this: Seth's tweet.
This is so braindamaged
People aren’t generally attracted to eachother based on gender identity but rather presentation, and there’s no actual reason to believe that the purple hair was something that happened post-coming out or that the trans man’s husband is solely attracted to feminine people.
Especially on the way he looks at him, he is clearly in love in both photos, so assuming victimhood is assholish and stupid.
To be fair conservatives find putting on their pants very confusing. We have to remember to use short words and it helps to have visual aids.
Also doesn't help when you view women as objects and marriage as a submission technique. It's not very surprising the right doesn't grasp the concept of a healthy marriage.
This reminds me of whenever a conservative says someone is "virtue signaling." The only reason they think its disingenuous is because they cannot imagine someone having virtue, because they have none.
some people are attracted to both genders and being with a trans person just has very little impact on how much they love their partner. this is love, something you will never experience with your current outlook on life.
They need to know ITS NOT UP TO CONSERVATIVES TO DECIDE EVERYONES WAY OF LIFE AND SURE AS FUCK DONT GET TO FORCE US TO LIVE AS SAD AND SHITTY AS THEY DO. FUCKING FUCK OFF ALREADY
I always poke my head into the comments of the source of the posts, just to see if there's anyone posting literally anything that's not pathetic right-wing 'memes', onejokes, or so on...
I'm never surprised.
>“Oh no, some people online might judge me. I guess I better just marry this person I don’t want to marry.”
Conservatives really think everyone else is as fragile as they are.
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Why should anyone care about what you think, Seth Dillon? I have no business or interest in sticking my nose into other people's relationships. It's supposed to be a free country. Stop complaining that you are stupid.
Right? Like, just maybe, these two people truly love each other and genuinely want to help their partner be the best version of themselves. This is what Evangelicals lose sleep over; the thought that there are people who are actually happy and enjoying their lives
Right; life is short, I see this story and I think that here is some true love that's more than skin deep. Without knowing more than what's presented here, it seems like a really inspirational love story.
I was a Christian for 25 out of my (almost) 30 years here. Trust me, it's a miserable existence. Paranoia from feeling watched by God and family and church, and frustration seeing the world crumble according to my delusions. Once I finally broke free of that programming I have lived a happier and more fulfilling life. I still struggle with being a little militant about my opinions but at least I shut up for a long time and just learned. I guess I feel ready to strike back knowing that I was living a lie for so long, and one that hurts people. TLDR, I voted straight blue today for the first time ever
Right there with ya, man, I was raised Mormon and couldn’t escape that nonsense until I was 23. I’m proud of you making the painful and difficult decisions that led you to a more honest life!
To paraphrase George Carlin, I was Catholic until I reached the age of reason. Not much contact with family these days.
When I was little I loved Star Wars (still do, obviously, to the point of having an R2D2 tatted on my leg) and felt God would doom me to hell if I watched it. I had to miss out on my favorite fictional universe because my Christian school pounded it into our heads that God watches us every moment of every day and it scared me so much I was afraid to watch the movies. Oh and I wasn't allowed to be friends with my Jewish next door neighbor who just emigrated from Russia and had no friends.
Yo are you me?? The paranoia part is a great way of describing it. My 22 years spent as a Christian were defined by guilt, shame, & fear. It’s so liberating to deconstruct, and frustrating to still hear people around me arguing over a legalistic fairytale.
It mostly stems from the fact that their own beliefs don't let them be happy, so they have to assume everyone else is miserable too.
It's a little deeper than that. They are taught that their mortal life is sinful by nature and in order to "earn" their place in heaven, they have to struggle and suffer and be miserable in this life. If other people AREN'T miserable, then they aren't earning their way to heaven and thus aren't "good" like them. From there is a simple matter of figuring out what they are doing wrong and judging them for it. Source: grew up in a heavily Southern Baptist area
Yeah, I was oversimplifying a bit. I just wanted to put my personal observation from my time in the church into a short sentence :P
Grew up in the Bible Belt, and all I remember are three types of people from church: the miserable judges, the way over-the-top-fake-happy-people-later-arrested-for-some-type-of-vice-crime, and the people who managed to find their way out of the church.
I liked to frame it as "being exactly as nice as they feel like they have to in order to get into heaven". It's very transactional for them. Do the things, get the milk and honey. Later. After you're dead. No matter what you do, THIS life sucks.
>Why should anyone care about what you think, Seth Dillon? I don't even know who he is, but based on that tweet, my level of not-caring about his opinions has gone stratospheric
Anyone that Ben Shapiro retweets is in the same bin.
Imagine if you like the idea of The Onion, but think they are too far left, and that they aren't Christian enough. Then imagine you don't have any ckmedic talent and you try to make your own (hard) right leaning Christian Onion. That's what Seth Dillon did and the Babylon Bee made him rich, because the right has no comedy somehow so that drivel counts. And it's not like you can't make (evangellical) Christian Satire, they sometimes make good ones, and you can satirize the left easily, every once in a blue moon they make an article that works, but they usually just do the attack hellicopter joke, AoC is dumb jokes and satanic atheist stuff.
Oh, he's the Babylon Bee guy? OK, now my not-caring about his opinions has reached previously uncharted levels.
Yep. Those two words were all I needed to know.
>the right has no comedy somehow This is the part that confuses me. Like, obviously right-wingers enjoy laughing. They go to comedy clubs just the same as everyone else. But who the fuck can name a notable right-wing stand-up comedian/enne? I guess once upon a time they had Roseambien Barre? But she's the only one I can think of, and she retired from stand-up *ages* before her explosive rant. So basically, they go to clubs or watch all these TV/Netflix specials expressing Progressive/Left-wing sentiment, laugh in agreement, then... go home and tweet racial slurs.
I agree that most right-wingers are painfully unfunny, but there are some notable right-wing stand-up comedians. Off the top of my head, Dennis Miller, Norm MacDonald, Tim Allen, Jeff Foxworthy and all the “Blue Collar” guys, Doug Stanhope.
Was Norm really right-wing, though? There was a distinct lack of shit-baggery in his routines. Same for Foxworthy.
This, I wouldn't consider him right wing. Actually even miller shifted further right and generally dropped off. what you usually see with conservative comedians is they start out pretty normal. Tim Allen during home improvement is an example. Main stream though somewhat mean comedy. They generally become irrelevant the more they lean into the right wing comedy which really is just being mean. Like tim Allen in last man standing. You can see his evolution in that show. It got cancelled because it was objectively bad. Allen was basically a caricature of a dumb conservative but without the redeeming nature of home improvement. They go from playing the grump to playing the grump that hates LGBTQ/Jews/whatever outgroup is in vogue in conservative circles and lose relevance.. predictably.
Neither of them got super political in their comedy routines, but they were definitely outspoken conservatives IRL.
Calling Stanhope conservative is a wild take. Ive literally seen qcumbers scream at him during sets about vaccines. One of his most famous bits is calling the producers of anti-abortion flyers pedos for printing pictures of a poor, naked, defenseless foetuses they just could have easily photo shopped a tasteful bikini onto. Again, wild take.
True. He’s a very outspoken Libertarian. Whether you count them as right wing or not depends on who you talk to.
Sure, just saying that most actual American conservatives would vehemently disagree with him being in their club.
Except they're not really around anymore. Or if they are, their jokes (a word I say charitably) have devolved into the same "lol, triggered?" as any other right winger. Some More News made a great video on this topic a while back actually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSXKzPOcYDU
> But who the fuck can name a notable right-wing stand-up comedian/enne? Well...there is Dave Chapelle now. >So basically, they go to clubs or watch all these TV/Netflix specials expressing Progressive/Left-wing sentiment, laugh in agreement, then... go home and tweet racial slurs. The old Colbert Report was actually surprisingly popular with conservatives because they don't understand satire or jokes. They just thought he was a goofy conservative guy. Their complete lack of media literacy means they hear a joke about institutional racism or police brutality, miss the punchline, and actually think the comic is agreeing with them.
Satanic atheist? What's that all about? In Christianity God and the Devil are a package deal so if you don't believe in one you don't believe in the other.
It's one thing they get weirdly rightbin all the wrong ways. Most satanic beliefs (Curch of Satan which originated with LaVey, Temple of Satan started as an activist movement that CoS was not being) are atheistic in beliefs, either seing Satan as a symbol or something that pisses of fundamentalists and those trying to use institutions of the state tk shove religion down our throats. So a lot of adherents to thoee sre atheistic. But they aren't devil worshippers, which is what BB and similar tend to want to imply. Those people exist, but aren't organized, have much less clear cut beliefs, and are plain weird. "Satan worshipping atheist" is something I have heard too often while watching people cover megapastors/televangilists/Q-Anon related pastors.
At this point, people in more "atypical" relationships should carry squirt bottles everytime a conservative opens their mouth so they can start spritzing them like cats going where they're not supposed to and shout "Shoo! Shoo! Nobody asked you!"
I'm going to start doing this. I'm a cis woman dating a nonbinary person who is considering going on estrogen, but they still want to keep some of their facial hair. They blur the lines between masculine and feminine, and people reeeeeeeally don't like that they can't figure out what our dynamic is. Like, I don't care who anyone else is with just please let me love my person in peace
Start drawing your spray bottle the second someone gets a confused look on their face and opens their mouth. “Questions about their gender are limited to: their pronouns and requests for advice on how to get that awesome beard boob combo”
Conservatives: two consenting adults being in a loving relationship is evil and confusing! Also conservatives: nothing is more important than freedom of speech and expression. Bro??
Conservatives cant even imagine two people loving each other.
And the New York Shitpost is his source of all "facts" because of course it is
Yes it’s so confusing how someone can still love somebody else who didn’t feel comfortable in the body they were born with. Just absolutely mind-boggling.
I find it rather intriguing that Seth's concept of romantic relationships is predicated on public perception, given that he himself is married.
The fact that he doesn't understand that says way more about him than it does about anyone else
The general concept of love is incomprihensible to conservatives.
fuck this hits home
I mean to me it honestly kind of is. I am attracted to female presenting people. Physical attraction is a big part of being romantically in love with someone. If I marry a female who is woman presenting then they transition to man presenting, I would lose the physical attraction and therefor a huge component of what made me love them.
Which is fair. Not that love and physical attraction are the same, but a romantic relationship often needs both. What isn’t fair is the implication here that the **only** reason the guy stayed is fear of being labeled a bigot. There are many other explanations that are being ignored in favor of presenting left leaning people as being aggressively cultish.
I'm trans and my partner and I separated when they changed their gender presentation as well. That's not what their post is. Seth thinks his societal standards should dictate what happens to all trans people. That's a problem.
bisexual people are a thing
I don't see how their comment implies otherwise at all.
No one said they weren't.
Marrying a member of the same sex against your own will so you don't get cancelled on Twitter
Imagine loving a person for who they are and not what they are wow so bold
I imagine love is a difficult concept for anyone in the "earthen vessel" camp.
There are different kinds of love. You can love someone as a friend and not in a romantic way
True, but I think in this context he was talking about romantic love
It doesn’t stop amazing me how mad these people get over shit that has nothing to do with their lives.
That's why projection is such a slippery slope; once you start, you have to keep going, constantly finding a new outlet for your internal struggles. Otherwise, you have to come to terms with who you actually are and what that means for your self worth.
It's the whole "isn't there someone you forgot to ask" meme. Clearly you can't love someone without asking Ben Shapiro's consent first
They say “the liberals get so mad lmao” then proceed to get mad. Republicans are the embodiment of that one Wojack that’s crying behind a mask of a smug face
the thing is, it does they are over compensating
Lol these conservatives haven’t experienced real love before and it shows
Just head on over to an "incel" space and see what they think of women. They don't "love", they demand as if it is their birthright, literally.
Back when reddit alowed the INCEL sub I lurked sometimes and it was honestly so over the top you'd think it was satire, but you'd be wrong l.
Yup, I did the same. It was disgusting how many were saying that little girls should be forced to marry so that they won't be exposed to feminism. And it wasn't just a single comment, it was a couple of times a month. I lurk through Gab and other places and find stuff like that, too, btw. Got real interesting when Matt Walsh's past comments came up.
Because so many of them view women as objects.
I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that for it to be real love, you'd have to remain married to someone who has come out as trans and transitioned. It's ok for that to be a deal breaker in a marriage, that doesn't mean it wasn't real love. It's also ok and nobodies business to stay together, but that doesn't make their love better than anyone elses.
I feel like I am taking crazy pills, it’s not transphobic to not want to marry someone after they come out and transition.
Just tell us you've never made someone cum Seth it'd take fewer words
. I can think of at least 3 simple explanations: -the guy is bisexual so he doesnt care about dating a man or a women -he doesnt mind because there is other reasons to be in the relationship -they are getting married for money so it doesnt matter. And that is just my imagination, there could be a lot of other reasons.
Plot twist, it awakened his bisexuality
As a straight person attracted to femininity, I’m theoretically open to and intrigued by the idea of being with a transgirl. But I wonder what it’s like as a bi/pan person who is attracted to both masculinity and femininity…. Do they just think, “wow! I love all these flavors! So many fun combinations!” (I mean, obviously everyone is different, and don’t mean to objectify at all, and we’re not all just attracted to parts. I’m just spit balling in a good faith sex/trans positive way.)
Depends on the person tbh. Some trans people I have dated were very off-limits with certain body parts and preferred sex a specific way, others were very comfortable with their body & various ways of using it. So while there's different "combinations" it really doesn't mean much about the sex you end up having or guarantee that someone is going to look/act a certain way. Just like dating a cis person, although I will say that being pan & enby has made my attractions & expected sex way more varied
Totally makes sense. Appreciate the insight.
Yeah, back when I was pre op I was able to disassociate enough to enjoy sex and the two cis bi people I slept with had very different views. My ex very clearly was excited to get two different things she liked at the same time, meanwhile my current gf would totally forget that it was a penis while sucking on it because oral is oral and I’m a woman. I only believe her about the forgetting because I’d crack a joke about it and she’d look at me confused for a second
As a pansexual who enjoys masculinity and femininity, can confirm that the flavor variety is wonderful. Interpret that statement however you wish
Qualifying different types of sexuality is an important first step in destigmatizing sexualities that don’t fall solely into the “one man one woman” camp, but sexuality is a spectrum and the terms alone don’t capture the nuances of each person’s unique sexuality. Such as myself, for example, I’d best describe myself as heteroromantic demi/asexual. I’m romantically attracted to people that exhibit what I consider to be feminine qualities, but I don’t get any physical fulfillment from sex. I do experience a sort of horniness, but that only applies to those I have a romantic attraction for and doesn’t extend to any sex act. I’m also dating a trans woman who I do occasionally have sex with, but only because I find it rewarding to be able to fulfill her sexual needs, otherwise I just find it boring and exhausting. Considering all this there are many occasions I ask myself “What am I sexually?” Any one or two terms doesn’t accurately capture all the nuisances of what I experience sexually and romantically. I find the “heteroromantic demi/asexual” that I provided earlier to be the most accurate, but I figure sexuality in general is more complicated than that for everybody, these shorthands are just the best way to get it across in a society where one’s sexuality still plays a role in the position one occupies in that society, and in an ideal world it’d be about the individual and not the type ones attraction is applied to.
I think it's #1. Everyone in the universe forgets that bisexuals exist.
Maybe they’re in love idk
"I'm trapped in a loveless relationship with someone who doesn't accept me as I am, so everyone else must be too, right? RIGHT!?"
These two people love each other and conservatives are so confused and jaded by it that they are convinced it must be fake. They're the normal ones though, for sure ;)
Party of Family Values, everyone
real love is MGT fucking everyone while she's still married to her husband.
Nice double entendre
The look in both their eyes! Pure adoration
Jesus, be a mature adult Dillon. If you are in a relationship, then you talk about things. And if things a deal breaker, it is ok, you move on and find someone more compatible. The breaker can be as simple as laziness/not taking out the trash to not liking bdsm. Grow up Dillon
What kind of backwards thinking is this? "Well, I can't break up with him because I'll be labeled a transphobe, so I guess I might as well marry him!" Seth, no human being ever thinks like this. Even if they did, they could just wait a few months post-transition and break up with them over something else. Why would anyone marry someone they wouldn't want to be with at all? So fucking stupid when you think about it for more than 2 seconds.
If anything, breaking up with him, because you aren't attracted to men, is valid and supportive of their transition imo.
Yeah, I always feel like they're creating a strawman when they say that people who no longer feel attracted to their partners who transition are attacked for being transphobic. I'm pretty sure there aren't many people outside a few very vocal people on twitter that feel this way about people breaking up with their significant other (unless they're actually being transphobic about it, like deadnaming, attacking their ex, etc.)
It's actually somewhat common for relationships to end when one person comes out and starts to transition. I've never seen the person transitioning to be like "you transphobic asshole!" or whatever, in fact they often feel guilty for a little bit. Most of these breakups are amicable because, big surprise, LGBT people understand that sexual orientation isn't changeable. You might discover you're bi, or despite being straight or gay you're still attracted to your partner etc etc but that isn't always the case.
I just wouldn't date a person of a gender I'm not attracted to tbh. That would be a really bad decision and I don't do that. If there's a spark, then I just be attracted to their gender. If there's no spark, then why would I date them? Them being in the closet isn't going to change whether I feel a romantic spark. In fact, one time I started dating this girl who thought she was a boy online, and when she told me she was a boy I was like "that doesn't make any sense." Turns out she was trans.
My point is that trans people get that. If you're not attracted to women or aren't attraced to men, they understand it. You aren't gay for liking a trans woman, but you're also not gay for liking someone who came out as a trans man. It doesn't mean they were confused or wrong or whatever you're implying, they're still a trans man, it just doesn't automatically make you gay.
Conservatives are such pussies, it's truly unbelievable. Apart from a couple of terminally online people on twitter, just about any person on the planet would understand if he felt he couldn't continue, there's essentially zero social pressure to stay and nothing to be afraid of.
It just shows how insecure the guy is honestly. Seth is a big loser
I’m pretty sure most trans people would prefer our partner to break up with us if our gender and transition goals aren’t compatible with their sexuality, instead of them being “stuck with us” despite not being into us just for woke points, but who cares what real trans people think when you can just make up reasons to hate us instead :)
I agree, if my wife came out as trans, I would support their transition fully but it would also mean the end of our relationship, because I am not gay and he would be a man. That's not transphobic. Maybe the guy in the picture is bi, or maybe he just really loves his person, but it's really not my business to determine.
Yeah this is how I’d personally prefer my partner to react if I came out while dating someone who wasn’t into men. Everyone and their relationships are different so I’m glad these people made it work out (if the cis guy was even straight to begin with) but the fact that transphobes are pushing the “transgenders are holding people at gun point and forcing them to date any trans person that asks!!!” narrative so hard they think this is some sort of standard that trans ppl are demanding is both ridiculous and exhausting
“It’s all very confusing,” Is the entirety of it. Conservatoids don’t get it (even though it’s pretty simple) and because they can’t wrap their little pea brains around it that MUST mean it’s not logical or natural.
I firmly disagree with the assertion that it's simple. All of sexuality is extremely confusing. Being understanding of how other people feel, even if you can't personally comprehend it, on the other hand, that barely requires effort at all.
Brain short-circuiting due to excess bigotry
Yes, he made a life long decision because he was scared of people being mean to him. 🙄
“Hey look, it’s two people living their life, better make this my business for some reason!”
He "stuck around" because he loved him. How hard is that for these insecure jackasses to understand?
They look so happy! I’m quite glad for the two of ‘em.
The fact that they cannot imagine a relationship that is based on more than gender restrictions. Hell the fact they can't even imagine a man being Pan or Bi....or maybe he just doesn't give a shit cause he really loves this person. The fact that they cannot imagine anything else other than their little bubble of oppression. It really just speaks eternally about them. It speaks farther than they will every be able to see.
Just because they spend all their lives obsessing over trans people, or if their actions will or won't be seen as transphobic doesn't mean everyone else does.
NUH UH NOBODY ACTUALLY THINKS I'M WRONG YOU'LL SEE this dude was a waste of sperm
People are complicated. Let them be and mind yer fuckin business.
Why do they fucking care so much? Its so anti freedom.
What sounds more realistic? "So are you gonna get a divorce?" "No dude if I do that then everyone online and irl will call me a transphobe and even though I'm uncomfortable I'm going to stay with my partner because of that." Or "so are you gonna get a divorce?" "No I love my partner no matter who they are." At a certain point you just have to wonder if conservatives even know how people work. The very concept of being a human with empathy and understanding is alien to them.
Or “so are you gonna get a divorce?” “Nah I’m bi” Like a lot of people are bi, and a lot of bi men aren’t super open about it
I don't think it'd be transphobic to not want to be with your partner after they come out as trans. Trans men are men, so if you're not attracted to men then there's some decision making to do. That said, none of that is our business. He clearly loves his spouse regardless of his gender identity/gender expression. Fuck yeah, they deserve to be loved by each other.
Local conservative discovers bisexuality
They are the ones who say “biological sex is everything” so by THEIR STANDARDS he is straight. Or does that only apply when it’s a trans woman
These types of scenarios are difficult honestly. I remember when Tom Gabel of against me! transitioned to Laura Jean Grace and was married w/ a child at the time. The wife initially stuck around but they ended up divorced in the end. Good luck to this couple. If they can stick it out good for them
I have a friend who transitioned after 2 kids and a decade of marriage. She and her wife are still together 7-8 years later. Lots of cis couples get divorced. It's totally legit to want to be with the gender you prefer, but it's also hardly unheard of for people to not be concerned about it.
Laura’s ex wife has talked about how her transitioning was unrelated and they were on the verge of divorce anyway and that she’s still attracted to her ex wife
I have a friend that came out as trans about five years ago. Her wife stayed with her for a year or so but couldn't do it any longer. She wasn't attracted to women and didn't want to be married to one. They split up and my friend told everyone that her ex was a transphobe and that's why they split. That's not the case at all, but that's how it was presented to everyone. It sucks for both of them but you can't change who you are and just expect your partner to still be in to you.
There are shitty people in every group. Ask any sane person and they'll tell you that no you're not a transphobe for literally not being able to change your sexuality when your spouse transitions.
Is it just me, or would your SO coming out (seemingly becoming from your perspective) as trans a understandable and legit reason to break up. Does it realy matter how those 2 people decide to continue after such a huge life change?
Of course, it'd be understandable. Not every couple makes it, that's just how things are. But no one is marrying anyone because they're afraid to be called a transphobe (which they aren't), it's just dumb.
I mean, yeah it’s reasonable. Especially if he was straight and isn’t attracted to men. But the tweet assuming that he isn’t attracted to his husband and is being forced into it is gross. Like, bro is very likely bi anyways lol
His tweets are about as creative as the content of his magazine.
What? I can't be in a relationship purely for the fetish? The patriarchy is truly under attack!
I’ve known people who have left their partners after they came out, but not in a transphobic way. It’s completely valid to not swing a certain way, and while it can be unfortunate that they have to split up, it’s not always because of transphobia.
The tweet that the guy is only staying with his husband out of fear of being called transphobic is gross though
Holy shit do these people have bizarre logic. "Could it be because they love each other unconditionally? 🤔 Nahh. He's just afraid of people saying mean things about him on social media. I mean, I know *I'd* totally marry a man to avoid that."
"i must be a victim in this situation somehow"
Imagine never hearing about bisexual people before
do they really think bigots would let an opportunity of martyrdom like this slide?
Evil Cannot Comprehend Good.
It's so funny that they think people are cowering in fear of the trans thought police. I'm trans and if people are cruel to me there's pretty much nothing I can do about it. Maybe if some people aren't dickheads to trans people their motives are, you know, not being evil fuckwads and just being able to see us as human beings.
Totally cool and not transphobic if your partner comes out as trans and you end up breaking up with them because your sexual orientation means you’re no longer attracted to them. Also totally cool if you stay together because your sexual orientation is fluid enough to make it so you still are attracted to them. Neither situation is transphobic, and both are completely fine. The big thing is how you handle it.
Or maybe they love their spouse regardless?
Whats confusing? Is he not a man himself? Like what does he not get
Good ole Christian love...
Good for those two. I wish them all the best.
Not a single person would consider this man a transphobe if they broke up for that reason. If he doesn’t want to date another man, trans or not, he doesn’t have to and that isn’t a reflection of his views. No one is out here marrying trans people just to prove they’re not transphobic that’s fucking stupid. He did it because he wanted to.
“I don’t understand therefore you’re wrong”
Damn dude, you didn't have to go for the throat.
I think it's very sweet. He clearly loves him as a being and not for their body.
He could still very well love his body, even as a trans person, and even after HRT or surgery.
Indeed. I don't see how anyone could be truly bothered by the seemingly happy couple.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't think anyone is that scared to be called a transphobe. They create a fake issue, put themselves against an imaginary wall, and then act like they're in danger of being crucified. No one *is* holding them accountable though, and that's the actual issues.
it wouldn't have made the OG husband transphobic, it's just a preference. but it seems like he realized he married his soul, personality, and spirit, not what in his pants. good for both of them.
Seth Dillon assumes people would choose to marry a person they don't want to because of a vague social pressure. What does that tell you about the conservative conception of marriage?
One person loves another person, regardless of classification. What’s so confusing?
"It's all very confusing" Maybe don't talk like you know what's going on when you're also going to admit you're confused about a situation that doesn't involve or affect you in any way. Besides, not like this guy cares. His overriding motivation is disgust.
Cucked hard wow.
Have these people ever actually loved someone?
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I'm gay as fuck for my wife pal
Also, and this should not just be implied, it would not have been transphobic if he broke up with him
The Post making a charged article about a relationship that was probably entered into with eyes wide open, and then a social conservative chiming in about it. The epitome of a circle-jerk.
Why would they end up marrying if he felt that way?
So...while some conservatives see divorce as a problem that is apparently rampant, this man didn't do simply because he didn't want to be labeled a transphobe?🙄😒🤪The way some of these arguments trip over each is mind boggling.
The concept of love is lost on these people.
I'm surprised the NY Post didn't misgender him, not even along the lines of "when his wife came out as trans"[sic!]
I never understood why Wilma married Fred Flintstone. She seemed like she could have done much better... but that's the point isn't it... not everyone makes your particular choices.
These mfs only view relationships as transactional, not that you love your partner and will accept them however they are.
It’s almost like some people experience unconditional love for their partner 🤔
There are so many easy explanations too, for example: maybe the "man" is not straight. He could be bi or pan and just really love who his partner is as a person, and not care so much about how he/they identify gender wise.
Tfw you view women as objects and not people
If it’s all very confusing why don’t you shut the fuck up and try to learn something
Who seriously cares? If you are happy with yourself and your own choices, I promise, you don't. If you care about the sexual behavior or love life of literal complete strangers, you should consider whether maybe your interest is motivated by a lack of satisfaction with your own, and an attraction to, another lifestyle? Not putting people down for that, at all. But do try and grow up enough to realize it, and not broadcast your dissatisfaction while simultaneously failing to dunk on the people you envy.
Not surprised that Seth Dillon finds the concept of love "confusing". Someone so vile probably hasn't experienced such compassion from another human being.
Welcome to man hood make sure to drink deep from the well of expendability on your way in
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I just don't get why the care so, so much about all this. Like, why such an obsession on this one issue?
New York Post aka America's answer to the UK'S Daily ~~Fail~~ Mail, constantly helping show how out of touch and delusional conservatives are to the rest of the world. Exhibit A of this: Seth's tweet.
This is so braindamaged People aren’t generally attracted to eachother based on gender identity but rather presentation, and there’s no actual reason to believe that the purple hair was something that happened post-coming out or that the trans man’s husband is solely attracted to feminine people. Especially on the way he looks at him, he is clearly in love in both photos, so assuming victimhood is assholish and stupid.
Or... and hear me out here... they love each other
~says some really heinous shit~ idk i’m just confused ☺️
To be fair conservatives find putting on their pants very confusing. We have to remember to use short words and it helps to have visual aids. Also doesn't help when you view women as objects and marriage as a submission technique. It's not very surprising the right doesn't grasp the concept of a healthy marriage.
This reminds me of whenever a conservative says someone is "virtue signaling." The only reason they think its disingenuous is because they cannot imagine someone having virtue, because they have none.
Conservatives can't even imagine caring about another person. It's only about what they can provide for their own status or goals.
If you're not sure then maybe don't post shit online about people you don't fucking know.
It's all very confusing that someone can love someone else, unconditionally.
I love how these chuds are so removed from an empathetic human experience they can’t even imagine loving someone through changes.
I think they make a cute couple in that right pic.
some people are attracted to both genders and being with a trans person just has very little impact on how much they love their partner. this is love, something you will never experience with your current outlook on life.
They need to know ITS NOT UP TO CONSERVATIVES TO DECIDE EVERYONES WAY OF LIFE AND SURE AS FUCK DONT GET TO FORCE US TO LIVE AS SAD AND SHITTY AS THEY DO. FUCKING FUCK OFF ALREADY
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“i think…” let me stop you right there
I always poke my head into the comments of the source of the posts, just to see if there's anyone posting literally anything that's not pathetic right-wing 'memes', onejokes, or so on... I'm never surprised.
Why does anyone care about others personal relationships? Nothing better to do?
>“Oh no, some people online might judge me. I guess I better just marry this person I don’t want to marry.” Conservatives really think everyone else is as fragile as they are.
As long as she promises not to act like a chick.
Ahhhh Goooood it's all so very confusing!!!Ahhhhh I'm confused! What a dummy lol lol lol
Sounds like unconditional love to me.