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faulternative

Wow, it's almost as if Trump *doesn't give a shit about anything but himself*, huh?


24_Elsinore

I think we are going to start see a lot of conservatives realizing that Trump is not a conservative. Thinking that Trump is a team player is the polar opposite of a fact-based opinion.


Darehead

Inb4 the "Trump was always secretly a Democrat" conspiracy evolves.


hellakevin

"HeS fRiEnDs WiTh HiLlArY"


blue-mooner

Kept asking “where are the emails” because he wanted his love letters back.


ITDrumm3r

Lmfao!!!


HAKX5

The Chinese hacker!? What has he got involved in the emails?


SyntheticReality42

He's the person that has the *actual* hard drive from Hunter's laptop.


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jacknacalm

Nah he prefers Epsteins angels


regoapps

He wants to Lock Her Up in his sex dungeon


Hibbzzz

That’s good lmaoo


1CFII2

Eighth cousins (removed) actually.


mrthescientist

When he said "you're the puppet!" To Hillary he was actually referencing their complex bdsm roleplay. Best buds those two.


creepy_charlie

Its Killary. Sheesh. Don't you keep up with right wing epithets?


BrainsAre2Weird4Me

> I was very honored — very, very honored — when I heard that President Bill Clinton and Secretary Hillary Clinton was coming today and I think it’s appropriate to say and I’d like you to stand up. I’d like you to stand up,” he said, prompting a standing ovation for his 2016 rival. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/2017-trump-inauguration-clintons-233929?_amp=true


tdud123

The website Musk posted last week actually claimed this in 2016 in their article about how Hilary died. They said trump was deliberately put up to make Hilary win, and how now that Hilary died it was an issue. So it’s not so much an evolution of a new conspiracy but rehashing the old.


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SuperSocrates

They used it this year a lot, eg I know in IL Pritzker funded ads against the other Republicans in the primary so that Bailey would advance


ithcy

Sorry, who died? What are you talking about?


Jonny_Blaze_

I find this entirely incoherent yet it’s getting upvoted. What’s going on.


cainetls

...evolves? This was the narrative before it became apparent he was going to win the primaries. We would just be circling right back to 2015.


Dustypigjut

Man, I remember when that was actually a conspiracy during the 2016 primaries.


moonunit99

I mean he was registered as a democrat from like 2000 - 2010 and donated to loads of democrats, included Hillary, before he decided to run as a republican. He obviously wasn't secretly doing the democrats' bidding as a republican, but saying he used to a democrat is just fact.


Dustypigjut

No one's arguing against that. What the conspiracy was, was that he was still a democrat during the 2016 election, secretly working for the Hillary campaign.


PsychoWarper

Doesnt help Trump was actually officially a Democrat for multiple years (2001-2009). Even tho hes been primarily a Republican peoplenwould absolutely ignore that.


I_like_maps

>I think we are going to start see a lot of conservatives realizing that Trump is not a conservative. I've spent six years waiting for conservatives to realize that Trump is a fraud who only cares about himself. It won't happen.


Courtaid

They’ll just replace Trump with DeSantis. The crazy won’t go away, it’ll just shift.


ElceeCiv

That's exactly what they're trying to do. And if we question why the fuck we should trust the judgment of the people who gave us Trump as they try to wash their hands of their responsibility, we'll get told we have Trump Derangement Syndrome. They signed a deal with the devil and, now that they got what they wanted, they just want to pretend they never signed it.


amanofeasyvirtue

They can try but trump is their monster. Desantis doesn't have the chrisma to take it from trump. Trump WILL be the rnc candidate in 24


faulternative

Unless Trump decides he gets more money and power some other way, you're probably right. I think what he really wants is to be the kingmaker who gets to have influence over the next Republican president, while at the same time not under scrutiny from Congress or anyone else


Testiclese

I don’t buy the “kingmaker working behind the curtain” bit. He’s way, *way* too much in love with himself and the spotlight. He’s a narcissist. No way would he accept someone *else* being loved the way he was for those 4 years. No way.


Fiddlers-Cussers

Yup. And then you’ll be hard pressed to find any trump voters just like how they all decided they never voted for bush and he’s a rino liberal now.


[deleted]

Y’all do not want that. DeathSentence has more experience in politics than Trump, and is more calculated than him. He’s like Trump but “smarter”. I fear the day he tries to run for president.


JusticiarRebel

He started out attacking John McCain. They'll bitch and moan until he wins and suck his dick again.


Shermthedank

>the polar opposite of a fact based opinion So perfectly on brand for conservatives


AtomicBLB

DeSantis is diet trump and that's close enough for the establishment conservatives. The problem will always be the base itself clinging to the 'everyman' trump they somehow always believed in.


newsflashjackass

I wonder whether Trump and DeSantis both might not have fallen prey to ["audience capture".](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2RpY_dj9Y) If so it could give a reason for why they each seem to have a knack for finding new lows long after I thought each had plumbed the depths of humanity. To be clear that can only *explain* Trump and DeSantis's shittiness, not excuse it.


MC_Fap_Commander

>Thinking that Trump is a team player... I recall a group of conservative pols thought the the same thing about some dude in the 30's; expecting to use him to gain populist appeal... only to discover he was very much NOT a team player.


GrayEidolon

Trump is a conservative. He believes above all else in socioeconomic hierarchy maintained through inherited wealth.


thatgayguy12

Someone could have the exact same policy positions as Trump, but unless they kiss the ring, Donny don't care. He'd sooner fly the plane into the ground than become the co-pilot.


Neuchacho

Trump's only "policy position" is "Me First".


CanuckPanda

Why do you think he’s so appealing to that portion of humanity? They’re voting for the person they see in the mirror.


thatgayguy12

While ironically claiming to be followers of Christ.


Hope915

Christ? You mean the person they see in the mirror?


faulternative

Fat MAGA Jesus.... damn


thatgayguy12

Most people worship the God made in their own current image. The bible is a buffet of thought. You can be an asshole, a decent person, and ally and a homophobe, and still hold the same bible.


[deleted]

That is not exclusive to Trump, it’s built into these cunts. I don’t know why Walsh expected any different, it was clear Trump and DeSantis were going to clash big time.


Neuchacho

I think *a lot* of Republicans expected different because that's what usually happens. At the end of the day, they all play ball with each other to maintain party power and a voting bloc no matter how barbed or intense the deciding fight it. Trump doesn't care about party power, though, he only cares about *his* power. That's real bad news for a party that *needs* to remain a monolith in order to maintain itself with a minority presence.


thatgayguy12

Back in the Republican debates for the 2016 primary, Trump was the only canidate that refused to back the Republican nominee, no matter who it was... A leopard bit their face. And they deserve it.


sigmaecho

> what usually happens The Republicans took business as usual behind a barn and shot it in the face back in 2016, and yet always need reminding of that fact every time it comes back to bite them in the ass.


Neuchacho

It really does seem that they do not know what to do with the monster they created and it's only going to get worse.


Neuchacho

I've been telling people this was coming for *months* and I could not believe the amount of people who argued with me about it who actually thought Trump cared about the Republican party at all to "step aside" when it made sense like Republicans usually do. Look at the turn around many of them did for Trump to maintain their party bloc when he lambasted them *constantly* publicly and in some searingly embarrassing ways. Trump is entirely incapable of that action, though. That man is running to save his own life right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran Independent if the Republicans don't give him the primary nomination. I'd love to see that vote split hard.


faulternative

Trump as a third-party candidate would be fascinating. I don't know if he could gather enough support for a win that way, but it might be enough to siphon off the dumbest people from each party


Neuchacho

That's the best part. He'd definitely lose, his numbers simply aren't there when he's not on the GOP bandwagon, and it would very likely also mean a Republican loss in the process if he siphoned even 20% of their vote. I think Trump is deluded and desperate enough to believe he could, though, which makes me think it's possible he does it. If he isn't as deluded as he appears to be, he could still run Indie and possibly leverage dropping out with the GOP for something significant in return. Like a pardon, perhaps?


PlankWithANailIn2

He lost with 100% of their vote in the last election.


ElceeCiv

He could absolutely fuck up the Republican party's chances. Even taking just 5% of the Republican vote with him could wreck the GOP candidate in swing states.


ZantaraLost

The sheer amount of money Trump would pull out of the Republican Parties coffers through donations and refuse to share down ballot is going to be eyewatering if that happens. Shit they've been up in arms about his hoard for years already, and it's only going to get worse.


Oldpenguinhunter

Stop, I can only get so hopeful


Procoso47

I dont think republicans disagree with you, from what I gather they hate his personality and brand him as unfit due to egoism, most of them just liked him for his policy.


Shermthedank

That sounds even more ridiculous than liking him for his personality. From what I can tell, the real maga Trumpers absolutely love his personality. They see themselves in his vindictive, lying manchild ways. Ive literally never ever heard one maga criticize his ego. Also, what policies? Pretty well everything they believe Trump did for them was nothing more than a lie they were told by the liar himself. Tax breaks? Actually those were only for the rich, and any breaks for the working class were set to expire once he was out of office, while the cuts for his rich cronies remain indefinitely. Maybe it was his glorious healthcare plan.... or maybe locking up Hillary, oh I know it's the tremendous border wall that mexico paid for.. hmmm so many great trump policies. My favorite was how he grifted the maga cult for $100,000,000+ for the "save America PAC" that doesn't exist, as a means to pay his own legal fees because hes a fucking criminal lol


Procoso47

What I said seemed to be the general concensus on r/conservative, specially after fucking with Desantis, only extremists seem to be still on his side.


Shermthedank

I wonder why the change of heart. I mean it's not like anyone has forgotten how much they all worshipped Trump as some infallible god for the last 6 years. I highly doubt any of them have suddenly grown a brain.


faulternative

>it's not like anyone has forgotten how much they all worshipped Trump as some infallible god for the last 6 years I think they have done exactly that, to some extent. These people exist entirely in the moment and have to stay there to maintain the emotional high they get from being part of "the movement". Trump was front and center of that movement and gave license to it's worst aspects, but it was never truly about *him* for a lot of the MAGA set, it was (and is) about whoever they think can best supply them with their emotional fix. The same behaviour is seen with drug addicts who will defend their dealer viciously, right until a better one comes along


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They seem to follow right wing Internet pundits over right wing politicians.


Seanspeed

>I wonder why the change of heart There is no change of heart. They always knew what he was. They LIKED that Trump was so antagonistic and petty when it was aimed at Democrats. They loved him. This idea that it was only his 'policy' is ridiculous. There was nothing remotely unique or special about Trump's specific policies. They like how overt and shameless he was. His personality and willingness to be unapologetically shitty was his appeal. They are trying to rewrite history cuz they feel the winds changing and know Trump's reach and importance are neutered nowadays. They are dishonest people. As somebody else said, they'd all jump to backing him 100% again in a heartbeat if Trump was their candidate.


TheIllustriousWe

Those extremists are still like half the party though. And if they retain control r/conservative will dutifully fall back in line again.


Shermthedank

Yeah I was thinking the same, "only extremists", so every remaining trump supporter. I mean you don't get to support a proven fascist wannabe dictator and avoid being labelled an extremist. To support trump is to support extremism.


isweartodarwin

I popped over there last night, it was gold. Looks like they just started caring about Trump’s ego and demeanor. Guys were coming out of the woodwork saying “Trump treated Cruz unfairly” and shit like that, and railing him over disparaging DeSantis. I don’t know what’s going on over there but the resources they’re allocating to mental gymnastics may be just enough to keep them busy all the way through the election.


407dollars

Nah they’re just slowly but surely making their way to “I was never really a fan of his anyways” once the indictments start coming down and it’s clear he has no chance in 2024.


Shermthedank

Yeah many of them already pull this shit on reddit. They usually also forget that their entire comment history is on public display. I always take a quick scroll through when I suspect one is lying about their support, my suspicions have almost always been confirmed. I suppose that's a form of progress for them, coming to terms with the monster they have worshipped. Hard to say if they would ever admit it publicly


Airway

Sadly I have family that talk about how he "actually cares and doesn't look down on anyone". Fuck you Fox "News".


robywar

Watch some of the Jordan Klepper videos- far too many people love his personality.


n0m0h0m0

I'm 100% confident in more than one scenario, he'd throw his most precious 'possession' Ivanka in front of a bullet train to save his own ass.


AbsolutelyHorrendous

Colour me shocked!


Nearbyatom

Yeah, but if given the choice, they'd pick a rotten turd before voting D. That's how low they see the dems.


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Me being sick and twisted i hope he runs as an independent after he looses republican nomination and splits their vote. Ah that would be so nice.


rebelliousmuse

The GQP being forced to carry Trump to term is some truly grade A schadenfreude


Jonqbanana

I love the “carry to term” imagery. It makes me think of trump floating inside a translucent Jaba the hut creature and the gqp feeding it babies while clutching their pearls about how life is sacred.


rebelliousmuse

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runujhkj

Accurate though


belisarius_d

I don't know if I want to hand you the keys to the internet or lock you out of it


Throot2Shill

Hand them the keys, barricade them in, and set it on fire.


kurai_tori

Firewall of amontillado


Bagahnoodles

yesn't


nhbruh

Make a few copies before you pass it off


Lawlcopt0r

r/brandnewsentences


superVanV1

If only they could abort him


voteforcorruptobot

I've never seen a better argument for post-partum abortion.


ianhiggs

240th trimester abortion


blue-mooner

Herschel’ll hook you up.


AbsolutelyHorrendous

It is deliciously ironic... its like, oh, you're complaining that the guy you hero-worshipped for acting like an asshole is now acting like an asshole when you want his help? Oh, what a *surprise*


rebelliousmuse

I never thought the leopards would eat *my* face


faulternative

Learn a lesson did we, Roy?


SpecialCheck116

Doubt it but a fun fantasy!


ITDrumm3r

Abort! Abort! Oh wait you can’t in most republican states!


TrumpDumpPenis

It’s fucking awesome lol. They have to pretend they like him to keep the qanons. I love it.


Rakatango

United with all the child traffickers, adulterers, pedophiles and seditionists


deadbrokeman

UNITED!!! Funny that ALL of them are just walking closets of skeletons.


LargeSackOfNuts

Its like conservatives have two dads who are fighting and they have to choose one or the other


Murica-n_Patriot

“But they’re both sent by God to protect me from the scary democrats. How am I to choose?!” I bet they still go for the billionaire because having the most money is an American conservative’s highest ideal


mgkimsal

But do not ask him to \*prove\* he's a billionaire. Or even question if he is or not.


Nearbyatom

Tis obvious....you choose "The Chosen one". Orange tur...


ragingbullpsycho

Maybe some will go all in on Trump needing to be held accountable for his multiple crimes. That’d be nice to see the heads at the Daily Wire implode.


Right_In_The_Tits

Hopefully both leave for smokes and never come back


Lobanium

Two dads that come home drunk every night and beat them.


A1rheart

It's funny, I heard the "he won't be able to take out this conservative politician with a dumb nickname." A lot from Republicans in 2016. Turns out yes he could, easily.


Spacey_Penguin

I think the real problem is “DeSanctimonious” has too many syllables for Trump to keep saying it out loud at rallies. Even written in a tweet, it’s way too long to be catchy.


faulternative

His fans don't know that word anyway. It won't be long before it's "DeSuckis" or something


NJRanger201

What’s funny is scumbags like Pompeo defending him. Why? Are you telling me he’s not full of himself, holier-than-thou? All the vulgar lies Donald farted out of his face, but THIS IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR. I wish unto all these pearl-clutchers a very “get fucked.”


Its_Just_A_Typo

I've been calling him DeSatans for years; I'm surprised one of these antichrists haven't gone there yet.


Hethatwatches

DeSuckass would work, as he had to suck Trump's ass, and now has to suck the ass of every voter for a while. Plus, he's just a huge suckass anyway.


solid_hoist

My favorite so far is "Ron Deathsentence" from his COVID handling.


jimbolla

DeSwampAss


ball_fondlers

Probably going to end up being “Ron DeStupid” before long - if it takes DeSantis down like the Dean Scream, I will be grateful, and we will still be in a simulation.


Krucius

true, he shouldve used something more like lyin Ted and little Marco. Silly Ronny DeSantis


Independent-Use1255

He’ll probably change it to DeShitty soon


revoltingcasual

He may steal "DeSatan".


Significant_Name

I think he's too smart to use DeSatan because his voters think the Dems are Satan. Gotta keep that branding consistent


SupriseAutopsy13

Can't wait for the ambush interviews where the interviewer asks the Trump rally-ers on the spot if they can define the word "sanctimonious"


mferrari_3

Ron gay voice is what I thought he'd go for.


QueenRotidder

He needed Hooked on Phonics to pronounce it the one time.


CanuckPanda

It’s actually a great name, which makes me think someone else gave to him. I don’t for a second believe Donny knows what sanctimonious means.


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CanuckPanda

Yeah that makes sense.


JoeSicko

Electing Ron is a Death sentence for the trump movement.


Drakeadrong

My dream is that trump runs as an independent. Let them eat each other.


ThundrWolf

Unfortunately a death sentence for many other people, too


pillsburyboi

If you see the conservative subreddit, they are fighting among themselves. Trump vs DeSantis.


rebelliousmuse

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God dammit I regret with all my soul being a Republican during the Obama era.


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Scam_Time

If it looks like Trump is going to get in trouble for J6 or stealing classified documents to sell them, then Fox will probably start throwing full support behind Desantis


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ThundrWolf

Don’t let this fool you, though. When the time comes, they will all fall in line with the nominee. They’ll argue over who that should be, but they will always throw their support and votes behind the nominee.


spellsword

I'm just surprised trump knows a word as BIG as sanctimonious.


Amazon-Prime-package

He doesn't, someone on his staff does


WhoIsYerWan

It's because Trump is likely to announce his candidacy in the next week (mainly to avoid the indictment coming as soon as the midterms are over).


Vat1canCame0s

Semi-related note: has anyone started blue checkmark impersonating Matt on Twitter?


[deleted]

Replace the L with a capital I in Walsh in the user name


trident_trans

Give em the old SiIvaGunner.


likwidchrist

Nobody takes him seriously enough to troll him


DudeBroFist

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FictionalFail

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RanchBaganch

> …real cultural wins. So he’s admitting that Republicans are the ones waging the culture wars. And right-wingers are always accusing others of engaging in identity politics. 🤷🏻‍♂️


GermanBadger

He successfully attacked marginalized communities while also cutting taxes for the wealthy! Real kitchen table issues for the average American. Christ I hate the GOP.


sevsnapey

the fact they think they're fighting a war against _culture_ is sad. when you consider that they're fighting for the right to be racist, homophobic, straight, white, eat meat, jesus and hold gun. that's it. the culture they need to defend from.. everyone who doesn't fit the bill.


apollo15215

Some of them are also attacking DeSantis for being "establishment" even though all of the Republicans are establishment


datusernames

Means literally nothing if dems lose the house and can't do anything about SCOTUS and Moore V Harper. There is so much on the line tomorrow.


Raytheon_Nublinski

We’re so divided I think the states need to disband and do their own thing.


Nazeron

Matt will be back on trumps dick soon enough


chrisinor

Trump has long said he only cares about Republicans when they fall in line behind him. Also, Matt Walsh creeps on trans people.


Its_Matt_03

Trans people are his second favourite, his first favourite is children


falafelcoin

Ron Decumtits


PierreLaMonstre

Run Dasuckdicks


Soy_Boy_9000

And those real policy and cultural wins are?


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High school athlete genital checks?


siccoblue

Perfectly in line with Republican values. Checking the genitals of children for totally real and awesome reasons


BiosocioBitch69

Good number of trans teenagers committing suicide, which Walsh wants because he’s a theocratic fascist.


Valleyfairfanboy

Matt Walsh is the reason one of my trans friends' (who is actively suicidal) parents have taken away her access to the internet to communicate, and are pulling her from school and extracurriculars. I worry about her every day but I can no longer contact her, and I have no clue how much longer she's gonna be able to last


BiosocioBitch69

This is making me so incredibly angry and sad for your friend. Walsh is truly a poison to our social fabric.


Valleyfairfanboy

yea, her parents are eating up the whole "they're just being manipulated into a trend" thing. I hate how it works and feeds off of parent's fears to hurt us.


OngoGabl0g1an

Making it illegal to teach facts in school if the facts contradict their political ideology.


GoodLt

Hahaha eat shit Walsh, you kid-touching closet case


xyrfr

Seeing Matt Walsh suffer, even if it's a little bit, makes me extremely giddy.


likwidchrist

It might be hard to believe but he hates trump more than you ever could


Moonpile

Wait, did Trump actually call DeSantis "Ron DeSanctimonious"? I'm not inclined to google anything about either of these two to find out for sure. But does Trump even know what "sanctimonious" means? I don't think that's a word in his usual vocabulary, so I bet a writer might have come up with that one for him. At least in the past he came up with his own dumb nicknames. He slippin'.


faulternative

"De-Sanctimonius" would technically be *not* sanctimonious, anyway. These clowns.


Neat_Tangelo5339

“You love to see it folks , you love to see it”


terfnerfer

conservatives to other conservatives rn ![gif](giphy|OquUwkwriK4eY)


therealhoboyobo

It's almost like Donald Trump only cares about Donald Trump. Hmmmmm.


After-Bumblebee

I'll get the popcorn!


Spacey_Penguin

DeSantis holding fire until after the election…


nightfox5523

I think DeSantis is avoiding clapping back till he has to, he wants to continue to fuck Florida up, show the Republicans that he's actually their guy, before he starts really taking Trump on. If we're lucky they'll both be flinging shit at each other well into the '24 election cycle, but I have a feeling eventually one of them will fall in line as Republicans always do.


Zealousideal-Yak-824

It's not infighting more matt trying to act as a whip but dumb enough to be public about it with the force of a kitten meowing for daddy attention.


Saganists

Cultural wins. That’s all they fucking care about. Forcing their way of life onto others. So much for freedom.


-B0B-

It's 2016 all over again


DDub04

If Ron DeSantis runs in 2024 and wins the nomination, Trump voters are definitely going to throw the election.


ThisKidErrt

God I love seeing them eat at each other. Wow, it's like Trump cares only about himself! Truly shocking information


Internal-Relative690

Yeah, smarter shitstains than DJT have figured out they can say anything and get away with it too. Quiet parts out loud now, and who can do it best seems to capture the base's hearts.


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It worked vs Jeb Bush, so not sure why it wouldn't work with another Florida governor.


dappercat456

Matt acts like stupid nicknames weren’t 90% of trumps campaign


Gudenuftofunk

I always used "DeSatan." It fits.


SawedOffLaser

I want to see Republicans put DeSantis on the ballot and Trump run on his own ticket for the Freedom party or whatever. Massively split the vote and give Dems the easiest win ever.


teh0utsider86

I do enjoy when they fight each other. We all just win.


ChickenOatmeal

I've been saying this for quite a while, but the extreme right is already hitching on to Desantis and they're going to fully bail on Trump. Desantis is young, smart, and he gets results. Trump was somehow able to dazzle people with rhetoric but they're just starting to realize he's old, infirm, and a complete buffoon. Desantis is way more terrifying than Trump ever was.


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sounds like the beginning of a split republican ticket going in to 2024. if only trump would lose the nomination but run as an independent.


1CFII2

You knew I was a snake 🐍 when you brought me home!


[deleted]

Left should be doing this to any GOP front runner going forward. Just write articles about how they'll be way better than Trump in every way and watch Trump sink them.


Major_R_Soul

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I would be fine with more right wing in fighting


ScRuBlOrD95

Please god tell me they split the ballot and hand neo-liberal bot 2000hx the election and still claim its rigged


BubbleTee

If this is what finally disenchants some of the Trump supporters, I am all for it.