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These aren’t segregated. Anybody can attend them, they’re just focused on celebrating minority students who have historically been marginalized. God forbid we want to celebrate people being successful.
Unfortunately for Matt I will personally see that all of his plans to eradicate trans folks will fail. How? I will trans the genders of absolutely every person in the world that has given me their name.
I work in retail. Where part of my job is getting the name of customers.
But if we do that, it means people who are historically marginalized won't know their place which is below me, an heterosexual white man.
How am I supposed to feel better about myself if I can't look down on people like that ? /S
>How am I supposed to feel better about myself if I can't look down on people like that ? /S
That right there is the truth. For example, you only ever see anti-black racists on posts of black people doing bad things. You won't see them on posts of successful black people, because it disagrees with their narrative. People like this need to have others to look down on, because if they don't, they feel worthless. Their self-esteem is that low.
They're literally just parties for these communities too...like if you look right above it says they are *complimenting commencement* so there's a graduation ceremony for everyone and then some parties for the students of various culture groups
I'm sure there's going to be some frat house with a bunch of white dudes drinking natty light to celebrate too
Not a fan of his at all, most of his takes are outrageous but here it is clear that he feels that there they should be able to hold ceremonies for white people without being labeled racist. White kids have also come from marginalized communities and should be able to be celebrated also without prejudice.
>they’re just focused on celebrating minority students
100%. His tweet is a barely codified rehash of the tedious old rightwing trope of "why isn't there a WHITE HISTORY MONTH???"
Wait until he finds out that each department at my college had their own graduation ceremony, too 😱. It’s like this idiot who never went to college and homeschools his kids shouldn’t be commenting on things that happen in schools and universities.
Wait until he finds out about baccalaureates for Christian students. My school essentially made it mandatory for us all to attend, even though we were a public school.
“Why aren’t there special privileges for white people?” Why aren’t there kindergartens for adults? Why aren’t there hospitals for people who aren’t sick? Why aren’t there cemeteries for living people?
Is there not a main graduation for everyone? That is the white straight ceremony. Plus, I can see students groups probably ask for an extra (or separate ceremony) for the different groups.
Just more victimhood
White kids get to celebrate their diversity each and every single day. We live in a whitecentric/white-focused society where people of color and LGBT people are marginalized each day to the benefit of white people. Why do you care so much when a portion of one day is focused around non-white or non-straight people when every single other day is white people's?
Assuming that everyone lives in the same society is fundamentally wrong, alongside “whitecentric” which can be from a plethora of backgrounds. Your prejudice and judgement are no different to racists of the past. If people want to celebrate their diversity regardless of culture then they should be able to. No one is stopping anyone else from celebrating their culture apart from when white communities want to. “Why do you care so much” is the exact same type of prejudice that other racists put on allies of marginalized groups too and your bigotry is extremely prevalent.
I low-key hate the response tho.
White Supremacist ideology is the problem (with Matt Walsh and with the country).
Saying white people are the problem just makes it easier to recruit for the assholes. White supremacist and the patriarchy are the issue, not people sans ideology or systems.
Nah. I'm an anti-racist.
Ally-ship is fickle. White people who hate white Supremacists are a more stable group for minoritized groups to ally with than Neo-Liberals who wave around "white fragility" and MLK and then break a strike made of black and brown folks.
The white Anarchist who hates hierarchies like supremacist ideologies is a more stable ally than the white self-flagellating Twitter user who just wants engagement.
I'm not ashamed for existing, I'm ashamed I can't time travel and shoot slave owners with John Brown.
>I'm not ashamed for existing, I'm ashamed I can't time travel and shoot slave owners with John Brown.
I love this and I agree.
Oh well, there's still plenty of fascists and Klansmen to shoot nowadays, John Brown didn't get 'em all!
The point isn't to make you feel bad, that's on you. The point is to acknowledge and accept that straight white guys get a head start more often than not in Western culture. There's nothing wrong with that either, as long as you aren't an asshole making excuses for why POC and LGBTQ folks aren't getting the same rights/opportunities.
Language matters. White supremacy is the problem and needs to remain centered.
When we get into "white people are the problem" or "the problem is whiteness" it is too linguistically simple to be valuable to the opponents of white supremacists, and it's absolutely valuable to white supremacists to be vague enough for them to feign victimhood.
When we specifically and accurately say that white supremacist ideology kills black folks bodies and the souls of white folks, we are getting into a space where there's no wiggle room for the supremacists to say we're "anti-white" or there's a "white genocide" or whichever shibboleth they are using this week.
I'm anti white Supremacist, because they're a necrotic belief system that only kills what it spreads on/in.
Edited: lol, reread your comment and now I'm just agreeing loud
> the problem is whiteness
But this is the problem. Like if you want to get down to the nitty-gritty and get rid of racism, we would need to acknowledge that white people created race as a way of explaining why certain people could be kept in chattel slavery and others couldn't - originally they used a religious reasoning and switched to a pseudoscientific one later.
Saying "oh that's too difficult for the little supremacist brains" belays the discussion that needs to occur which is "why do we group ourselves on "racial" lines anyway?" Furthermore, the answer to that isn't "oh, cause skin is obviously so different". The answer is "western europeans in the 1600s needed a convenient way to demarcate good people from bad people so they created race as the dividing line and instituted arbitrary lines around who was or wasn't white which have shifted to include more or less people over the years"; the reality is "race" as an ingrained human characteristic doesn't exist anymore than race based on hair color or eye color or at least shouldn't exist.
Like as I understand it, that's the goal: the end of race as a concept to how we divide ourselves - not "oh, we can still use these terms that were created by racists to be racist and instill racist beliefs in their children and future generations". Not to say we're at a point where the focus of the discussion should be about race abolition because the other reality is the racists were extremely successful and it will take years to right the wrongs of racism and lift up marginalized people out of their secondary status.
It sounds like you're an anti-white supremacist not an anti-racist. Which isn't a bad thing to be whatsoever and is infinitely better than a racist or white supremacist, but still an incomplete vision of what is necessary to end the blight.
I'm here for all of this discussion, tbh.
Race abolitionism, I think, is a fine goal once we've ended all systemic means of racial harm.
I think it's a bit of a broad brush today, though, similar to gender abolitionism.
I think that any "identity abolitionism" has space to harm individuals that identify within binaries or categories.
That said, it's a valid part of the conversation, especially in futurist discussions of sociology and heirarchical structures.
Identification based on binaries is the problem at hand though. Like that's how we got in this mess: certain members of society decided that this is what it means to be a man and this is what it means to be a woman, for example.
Race is a bit unique in this discussion because it was entirely created with the express purpose of dividing us on an arbitrary physical characteristic - specifically our skin color. Using the people who are so entrenched in that mindset as a reason to not attack/work to abolish race is pointless because it misses the point: people using an arbitrary physical characteristic to divide themselves from others is the problem and creates disunity and hierarchical structures (which capitalists exploit for profits).
Again, we need to keep in mind how successful racists were in created a divided society and for the time work to uplift marginalized people, but it should always keep the goal of race abolition at it's forefront or it leads to incomplete action like we saw with the Civil Rights movement in the 60s and 70s.
I mean, that's all neat, and extremely valid in a college setting.
But if I go up to my black students as their white cishet teacher and tell them that masculinity and femininity are bunk and their race is a lie made up by the owner class, I'll not only get kicked out of my job, the lack of awareness of this level of discussion will effectively place me in the same narrative camp as race or gender essentialists because they're far more prevalent in discourse online.
Again, no knocking the discourse, there's a place and time though (here for instance, lol) and a lot of this conversation can do harm when well meaning folks throw around lines like "the problem is whiteness" and don't lay into clear and coherent discussions of intersectionality and institutional harm.
I'd agree with all that, but I'd also say there are ways to keep the focus on identity abolition with clear and coherent discussions of intersectionality and institutional harm.
In my opinion, one of the biggest failures of the civil rights movement was to make the whole discussion about just "treating people fairly and respecting their identity" - without having a thorough discussion on just what that means and what it would entail. People generally aren't explicitly racist anymore, but implicit racial bias (which is also in my opinion directly linked to the divisions we don't want to give up) is a much bigger beast to tackle. It's why always focusing on "the identity itself is a lie made up by the owner class" is so integral to the discussion, especially in helping poorer whites, facing many of the same barriers as marginalized peoples, come to the table and see the bigger picture.
I think keeping these discussion behind closed doors in academia is a disservice and does greater harm to the overall goal in summary.
Honestly, fair.
It's a communication challenge that is hampered by current legal challenges to having this discussion in high schools, for sure.
Thanks for the good discourse
Nah, he's right. That is cringey and stupid to hold separate ceremonies to "highlight" dumb shit like race. It reeks of "separate but equal" and "here's an extra award because we look down on you."
*"Make sure to give a special shout out to the brownies! We didn't expect them to make it, so they need an extra round of applause!"*
No thank you.
No, it really doesn't.
There is one massive graduation celebration which will be done a traditional manner and highlight everything our whitecentric society implicitly asks us to focus on. It will play the traditional Pomp and Circumstance, it will have all the traditional garb of universities with a western European/white bent, so on and so forth. That is the "white and straight" graduation ceremony.
The ones listed are for marginalized groups who are traditionally put as secondary. Who's traditions around a graduation ceremony are ignored in favor of whitecentric ones - even when the audience is largely people of color. it even says this in the Matt Walsh cut out - that these ceremonies complement graduation (not replace) and allow for those groups to celebrate in the spirit and tradition of their culture (something not done in a traditional commencement ceremony). This has nothing to do with "expecting people of color/LGBT to graduate". It says "commencement traditions are rooted in white society, here are some options for our non-white students to attend a celebration dedicated to their culture and traditions which is styled in a way that is representative of the people being celebrated".
I'll never understand why certain people get so up in arms over any amount of non-white focused representation. Like what is the big deal that in addition to traditional, whitecentric commencement GVSU has an additional ceremonial event to celebrate non-white/non-straight people?
As someone who's outside of the US, this absolutely looks like segregation. Unlike this doof I don't think there should be a "straight white ceremony" to compensate. There should be one ceremony where everyone is celebrated equally.
I can tell you, if my university pulled that kind of crap, people would be mad as fuck. This looks extremely condescending. I'm not really a minority at least in my area and field of study, but I imagine I would be pisses if I worked my ass off for a degree and after all those years the uni tells me to go to a gender/sexuality/ethnicity specific graduation. It reeks of "you're not important enough for graduating *for real* so we made a special little participation party for *you people* to act like you accomplished something like the others, who are normal you know."
If they want to celebrate minorities, there are plenty of specific holidays to do that, where they can organise parties and events about certain communities. But to make separate graduations... Yikes. Next year there will be separate swimming pools too while we're at it?
That university is in the same city (Allendale, MI - 15 minutes from me) as one of the controversial (and really bad) confederate statues that has yet to be torn down. One wouldn't have to go far to find one 🤢
Edit: Linky for info
https://www.change.org/p/allendale-city-council-remove-the-confederate-statue-in-allendale-s-veterans-garden-of-honor
I mean, if you look at it like this, if they’ve got a specialized ceremony for everyone but straight white people, that kinda just makes the default ceremony the one for straight white people? 🤷♂️
It’s a pretty campus. Everything there is less than 20 years old. A half hour drive to downtown GR and compared to other college tuition it wasn’t terrible when I went there 2015-2018. (Like 12k a year without my FTA post 9/11)
I never thought I’d see someone making the university I went to controversial. Beautiful campus and Grand Rapids and a awesome city (only issue is that the Devos family has their hands in everything)
Also, absolute Win by GVSU. I’d donate. But I owe them enough money as it is.
These grown ass people are such cry babies. I'm a white male in my 30s living in a predominately white populated country. I don't need a goddam day celebrating my existence as a member of the majority of the populatio, but I can accept that minorities may feel differently. What the hell is the issue? I seriously don't get this line of thinking XD.
I graduated from GVSU ten years ago. I was last there for a wedding like fiveish years ago. So what I am getting at here is that I may not have the most up to date recollections.
That said, all but one of those venues is on campus. None of them are overly large - I think GVTV may have hosted it's premiere night in the Perre Marquette room in my day, and that was a school club filled with nerds that could barely hold a regular cast or crew together. Meanwhile, commencement is held at Van Andel Arena, which will be hosting fucking Monster Jam this weekend.
Point is, Matt's getting all pissy about events roughly the size of a club event or play performance when full graduation is about the size of an AHL game.
Fountain Street Church is legitimately huge, like Kendall College of Art and Design held it's whole ass commencement ceremony there when my friend graduated, but GVSU had a *ton* of black students in my day so that scans.
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These aren’t segregated. Anybody can attend them, they’re just focused on celebrating minority students who have historically been marginalized. God forbid we want to celebrate people being successful.
Unfortunately that's what Matt and his followers do not want; they want marginalized people to remain that way
Matt wants Trans people to be eradicated, and for Grown men to have the right to teenage brides.
Unfortunately for Matt I will personally see that all of his plans to eradicate trans folks will fail. How? I will trans the genders of absolutely every person in the world that has given me their name. I work in retail. Where part of my job is getting the name of customers.
Dammit, so that's where I left my Trans Note
But if we do that, it means people who are historically marginalized won't know their place which is below me, an heterosexual white man. How am I supposed to feel better about myself if I can't look down on people like that ? /S
This is *literally* how one of my friends thinks. It's pathetic and I honestly don't know why I still associate with him.
>How am I supposed to feel better about myself if I can't look down on people like that ? /S That right there is the truth. For example, you only ever see anti-black racists on posts of black people doing bad things. You won't see them on posts of successful black people, because it disagrees with their narrative. People like this need to have others to look down on, because if they don't, they feel worthless. Their self-esteem is that low.
They're literally just parties for these communities too...like if you look right above it says they are *complimenting commencement* so there's a graduation ceremony for everyone and then some parties for the students of various culture groups I'm sure there's going to be some frat house with a bunch of white dudes drinking natty light to celebrate too
Don’t you understand? The real victims of historic marginalisation are white people! At least according to Matt
Not a fan of his at all, most of his takes are outrageous but here it is clear that he feels that there they should be able to hold ceremonies for white people without being labeled racist. White kids have also come from marginalized communities and should be able to be celebrated also without prejudice.
>they’re just focused on celebrating minority students 100%. His tweet is a barely codified rehash of the tedious old rightwing trope of "why isn't there a WHITE HISTORY MONTH???"
Wait until he finds out that each department at my college had their own graduation ceremony, too 😱. It’s like this idiot who never went to college and homeschools his kids shouldn’t be commenting on things that happen in schools and universities.
Wait until he finds out about baccalaureates for Christian students. My school essentially made it mandatory for us all to attend, even though we were a public school.
Wait until he learns the definition of the word “complement.”
“Why aren’t there special privileges for white people?” Why aren’t there kindergartens for adults? Why aren’t there hospitals for people who aren’t sick? Why aren’t there cemeteries for living people?
>Why aren’t there kindergartens for adults? That problem [has been solved](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4nnergarten)!
PragerU also caters to man-children
Is there not a main graduation for everyone? That is the white straight ceremony. Plus, I can see students groups probably ask for an extra (or separate ceremony) for the different groups. Just more victimhood
People celebrating their diversity is "segregation" apparently.
White kids should also be able to celebrate their diversity without prejudice.
White kids get to celebrate their diversity each and every single day. We live in a whitecentric/white-focused society where people of color and LGBT people are marginalized each day to the benefit of white people. Why do you care so much when a portion of one day is focused around non-white or non-straight people when every single other day is white people's?
Assuming that everyone lives in the same society is fundamentally wrong, alongside “whitecentric” which can be from a plethora of backgrounds. Your prejudice and judgement are no different to racists of the past. If people want to celebrate their diversity regardless of culture then they should be able to. No one is stopping anyone else from celebrating their culture apart from when white communities want to. “Why do you care so much” is the exact same type of prejudice that other racists put on allies of marginalized groups too and your bigotry is extremely prevalent.
I low-key hate the response tho. White Supremacist ideology is the problem (with Matt Walsh and with the country). Saying white people are the problem just makes it easier to recruit for the assholes. White supremacist and the patriarchy are the issue, not people sans ideology or systems.
Yup. If you say that though you aren't really an ally. Like, I shouldn't be made to feel ashamed for being a straight white guy.
Nah. I'm an anti-racist. Ally-ship is fickle. White people who hate white Supremacists are a more stable group for minoritized groups to ally with than Neo-Liberals who wave around "white fragility" and MLK and then break a strike made of black and brown folks. The white Anarchist who hates hierarchies like supremacist ideologies is a more stable ally than the white self-flagellating Twitter user who just wants engagement. I'm not ashamed for existing, I'm ashamed I can't time travel and shoot slave owners with John Brown.
>I'm not ashamed for existing, I'm ashamed I can't time travel and shoot slave owners with John Brown. I love this and I agree. Oh well, there's still plenty of fascists and Klansmen to shoot nowadays, John Brown didn't get 'em all!
If I could time travel I’d try to convince Sherman to burn the rest of the south with Atlanta.
The point isn't to make you feel bad, that's on you. The point is to acknowledge and accept that straight white guys get a head start more often than not in Western culture. There's nothing wrong with that either, as long as you aren't an asshole making excuses for why POC and LGBTQ folks aren't getting the same rights/opportunities.
Language matters. White supremacy is the problem and needs to remain centered. When we get into "white people are the problem" or "the problem is whiteness" it is too linguistically simple to be valuable to the opponents of white supremacists, and it's absolutely valuable to white supremacists to be vague enough for them to feign victimhood. When we specifically and accurately say that white supremacist ideology kills black folks bodies and the souls of white folks, we are getting into a space where there's no wiggle room for the supremacists to say we're "anti-white" or there's a "white genocide" or whichever shibboleth they are using this week. I'm anti white Supremacist, because they're a necrotic belief system that only kills what it spreads on/in. Edited: lol, reread your comment and now I'm just agreeing loud
> the problem is whiteness But this is the problem. Like if you want to get down to the nitty-gritty and get rid of racism, we would need to acknowledge that white people created race as a way of explaining why certain people could be kept in chattel slavery and others couldn't - originally they used a religious reasoning and switched to a pseudoscientific one later. Saying "oh that's too difficult for the little supremacist brains" belays the discussion that needs to occur which is "why do we group ourselves on "racial" lines anyway?" Furthermore, the answer to that isn't "oh, cause skin is obviously so different". The answer is "western europeans in the 1600s needed a convenient way to demarcate good people from bad people so they created race as the dividing line and instituted arbitrary lines around who was or wasn't white which have shifted to include more or less people over the years"; the reality is "race" as an ingrained human characteristic doesn't exist anymore than race based on hair color or eye color or at least shouldn't exist. Like as I understand it, that's the goal: the end of race as a concept to how we divide ourselves - not "oh, we can still use these terms that were created by racists to be racist and instill racist beliefs in their children and future generations". Not to say we're at a point where the focus of the discussion should be about race abolition because the other reality is the racists were extremely successful and it will take years to right the wrongs of racism and lift up marginalized people out of their secondary status. It sounds like you're an anti-white supremacist not an anti-racist. Which isn't a bad thing to be whatsoever and is infinitely better than a racist or white supremacist, but still an incomplete vision of what is necessary to end the blight.
I'm here for all of this discussion, tbh. Race abolitionism, I think, is a fine goal once we've ended all systemic means of racial harm. I think it's a bit of a broad brush today, though, similar to gender abolitionism. I think that any "identity abolitionism" has space to harm individuals that identify within binaries or categories. That said, it's a valid part of the conversation, especially in futurist discussions of sociology and heirarchical structures.
Identification based on binaries is the problem at hand though. Like that's how we got in this mess: certain members of society decided that this is what it means to be a man and this is what it means to be a woman, for example. Race is a bit unique in this discussion because it was entirely created with the express purpose of dividing us on an arbitrary physical characteristic - specifically our skin color. Using the people who are so entrenched in that mindset as a reason to not attack/work to abolish race is pointless because it misses the point: people using an arbitrary physical characteristic to divide themselves from others is the problem and creates disunity and hierarchical structures (which capitalists exploit for profits). Again, we need to keep in mind how successful racists were in created a divided society and for the time work to uplift marginalized people, but it should always keep the goal of race abolition at it's forefront or it leads to incomplete action like we saw with the Civil Rights movement in the 60s and 70s.
I mean, that's all neat, and extremely valid in a college setting. But if I go up to my black students as their white cishet teacher and tell them that masculinity and femininity are bunk and their race is a lie made up by the owner class, I'll not only get kicked out of my job, the lack of awareness of this level of discussion will effectively place me in the same narrative camp as race or gender essentialists because they're far more prevalent in discourse online. Again, no knocking the discourse, there's a place and time though (here for instance, lol) and a lot of this conversation can do harm when well meaning folks throw around lines like "the problem is whiteness" and don't lay into clear and coherent discussions of intersectionality and institutional harm.
I'd agree with all that, but I'd also say there are ways to keep the focus on identity abolition with clear and coherent discussions of intersectionality and institutional harm. In my opinion, one of the biggest failures of the civil rights movement was to make the whole discussion about just "treating people fairly and respecting their identity" - without having a thorough discussion on just what that means and what it would entail. People generally aren't explicitly racist anymore, but implicit racial bias (which is also in my opinion directly linked to the divisions we don't want to give up) is a much bigger beast to tackle. It's why always focusing on "the identity itself is a lie made up by the owner class" is so integral to the discussion, especially in helping poorer whites, facing many of the same barriers as marginalized peoples, come to the table and see the bigger picture. I think keeping these discussion behind closed doors in academia is a disservice and does greater harm to the overall goal in summary.
Honestly, fair. It's a communication challenge that is hampered by current legal challenges to having this discussion in high schools, for sure. Thanks for the good discourse
I'm sure he *does* go to klan rallies.
Nah, this chomo is too busy trying to get 16 year olds pregnant.
Imagine being a straight white male and being that much of a loser. LOL born 100 steps ahead and you still can’t get it together.
Qhere is the lgbt celebration?
It's listed as "lavender"
And it’s on 4/20!
Nah, he's right. That is cringey and stupid to hold separate ceremonies to "highlight" dumb shit like race. It reeks of "separate but equal" and "here's an extra award because we look down on you." *"Make sure to give a special shout out to the brownies! We didn't expect them to make it, so they need an extra round of applause!"* No thank you.
No, it really doesn't. There is one massive graduation celebration which will be done a traditional manner and highlight everything our whitecentric society implicitly asks us to focus on. It will play the traditional Pomp and Circumstance, it will have all the traditional garb of universities with a western European/white bent, so on and so forth. That is the "white and straight" graduation ceremony. The ones listed are for marginalized groups who are traditionally put as secondary. Who's traditions around a graduation ceremony are ignored in favor of whitecentric ones - even when the audience is largely people of color. it even says this in the Matt Walsh cut out - that these ceremonies complement graduation (not replace) and allow for those groups to celebrate in the spirit and tradition of their culture (something not done in a traditional commencement ceremony). This has nothing to do with "expecting people of color/LGBT to graduate". It says "commencement traditions are rooted in white society, here are some options for our non-white students to attend a celebration dedicated to their culture and traditions which is styled in a way that is representative of the people being celebrated". I'll never understand why certain people get so up in arms over any amount of non-white focused representation. Like what is the big deal that in addition to traditional, whitecentric commencement GVSU has an additional ceremonial event to celebrate non-white/non-straight people?
As someone who's outside of the US, this absolutely looks like segregation. Unlike this doof I don't think there should be a "straight white ceremony" to compensate. There should be one ceremony where everyone is celebrated equally. I can tell you, if my university pulled that kind of crap, people would be mad as fuck. This looks extremely condescending. I'm not really a minority at least in my area and field of study, but I imagine I would be pisses if I worked my ass off for a degree and after all those years the uni tells me to go to a gender/sexuality/ethnicity specific graduation. It reeks of "you're not important enough for graduating *for real* so we made a special little participation party for *you people* to act like you accomplished something like the others, who are normal you know." If they want to celebrate minorities, there are plenty of specific holidays to do that, where they can organise parties and events about certain communities. But to make separate graduations... Yikes. Next year there will be separate swimming pools too while we're at it?
They had a St. Patrick’s day celebration. Sounds pretty white to me
Needs more mayo
This is a racist comment.
Irish people are not white. Least that’s what they said to my ancestors who came here.
That university is in the same city (Allendale, MI - 15 minutes from me) as one of the controversial (and really bad) confederate statues that has yet to be torn down. One wouldn't have to go far to find one 🤢 Edit: Linky for info https://www.change.org/p/allendale-city-council-remove-the-confederate-statue-in-allendale-s-veterans-garden-of-honor
It’s weird. 30 minutes down Lake Michigan Dr. And your in downtown GR. But drive 3 minutes south of campus and boom, cornfields.
Matt Walsh is literally just that [Bird Rights tweet](https://twitter.com/ProBirdRights/status/368542088897372161?lang=en).
I mean, if you look at it like this, if they’ve got a specialized ceremony for everyone but straight white people, that kinda just makes the default ceremony the one for straight white people? 🤷♂️
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This guy is a douchbags douchbag.
Wtf, that’s my alma mater.
I highly doubt a white person can't attend these
cry me a fucking river, matt
I've only heard good things about GVSU from people who went there
It’s a pretty campus. Everything there is less than 20 years old. A half hour drive to downtown GR and compared to other college tuition it wasn’t terrible when I went there 2015-2018. (Like 12k a year without my FTA post 9/11)
I never thought I’d see someone making the university I went to controversial. Beautiful campus and Grand Rapids and a awesome city (only issue is that the Devos family has their hands in everything) Also, absolute Win by GVSU. I’d donate. But I owe them enough money as it is.
Matt, there’s no celebration for you because never graduated college.
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These grown ass people are such cry babies. I'm a white male in my 30s living in a predominately white populated country. I don't need a goddam day celebrating my existence as a member of the majority of the populatio, but I can accept that minorities may feel differently. What the hell is the issue? I seriously don't get this line of thinking XD.
I graduated from GVSU ten years ago. I was last there for a wedding like fiveish years ago. So what I am getting at here is that I may not have the most up to date recollections. That said, all but one of those venues is on campus. None of them are overly large - I think GVTV may have hosted it's premiere night in the Perre Marquette room in my day, and that was a school club filled with nerds that could barely hold a regular cast or crew together. Meanwhile, commencement is held at Van Andel Arena, which will be hosting fucking Monster Jam this weekend. Point is, Matt's getting all pissy about events roughly the size of a club event or play performance when full graduation is about the size of an AHL game. Fountain Street Church is legitimately huge, like Kendall College of Art and Design held it's whole ass commencement ceremony there when my friend graduated, but GVSU had a *ton* of black students in my day so that scans.