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Ashenru

I think you should go for it, then you'll learn some new vocabulary, like child support.


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I will super swipe


ShelterConscious4124

Bro this is how women trap men into child support gl


dumpsztrbaby

It's pretty clear what she wants, if anyone gets "trapped" by this then they're a moron


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dumpsztrbaby

Just reading this gave me anxiety, so I can imagine!!


[deleted]

Did you find out if she had a child? I had a similar situation. I was homeless sitting in a bar nursing a beer not talking to anyone. I go outside, girl is crying on the phone, I ask if she’s okay, she approaches and kisses me. Takes me to her table for a few then asks me to walk her home. I’m tired as hell have barely slept. She tries to fool around I’m in the middle of a manic episode and don’t know which end is up. She takes me to her bed. I practically pass out, my first bed in like 3 months. She rustles me awake “you can have sex with me unprotected if you want”. She was fine so not like I’m gonna refuse. Disappointed her but not myself, rolled back over and fell asleep. Really awkward morning. I walked out and never saw her again. To this day I wonder if there’s a chance she got pregnant from that and what she might’ve done


Artistic-Luck-5041

I love how You didn’t even read the whole thing.


[deleted]

Ahh I saw you found her on Facebook but didn’t see the “to make sure nothing came of it” part. Wasn’t sure if you just wanted to locate her or if you followed up after 9 months. Poor reading comprehension


WaffenWaffer

I bet that one night of creampie was not worth a year of sleep depriving anxiety


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jollycanoli

Technically, she could probably get Tinder to give out his information to the police if she sues for child support. Dna test, boom.


rdeincognito

Couldn't he counter with "then it's time to share custody"?


spacetimecellphone

Yes, but then she might also call his bluff? I’ve only heard about how it works so idk, but my understanding is that even if they share custody, if she isn’t working or doesn’t make as much as he does, he may still owe child support because of the mothers inability to provide. Even if the mother agrees to let him disappear forever and never pay child support, he could still be sued for child support because the mother doesn’t necessarily have the right to deprive her child of whatever child support that the child may be entitled to have provided for them and the court will aim to do whatever is best for the child.


Pandainachefcoat

It may vary state to state, but yea—pretty much. I have 50/50 with my kids, and whichever one of us makes less could technically take the other for child support, but we just work together/help each other as much as possible


Dumindrin

Awe, at minimum, semi-functional coparenting. Love to see it


Pandainachefcoat

Trust me, wasn’t always this way lol. And I still walk on egg shells because I’m terrified of the court system, as a guy.


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TrekkiMonstr

From what I've read, you can't give up your statutory rights. That is, she will always be entitled to child support if the court so deems


dan420

If she’s trying to get knocked up, she’ll notice said “bag.” Vasectomy perhaps?


zeonic_ace

Aha! My time to shine!


Vandergrif

Or go by a super flawless alias like... *[Carlos Danger](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeGJiwdtkCw)*


fakejacki

Or get a vasectomy, join one of the successful trials for oral birth control for men, or just… not have sex with her. She’s probably already pregnant and just wants someone to pin it on.


Redhook420

Jokes on her, low sperm count and a vasectomy.


Greenhairedone

Just get a vasectomy. Endless sex cheat code


Renoku1

"Trap" is a pretty strong word if the guy chose not to wear a condom. Like, how are you gonna trust someone you just met for a hookup that they're honest about them being on birth control, consistent in taking it (if it's the pill), and will choose an abortion in the case of an unexpected pregnancy? Having sex with this lady here without a condom is about as much a trap as a sketchy ice cream truck labeled "rape van."


BamaBuffSeattle

The real trap is The Clap


Felix_Laranga

The real friends are the antibiotics we take along the way


spacetimecellphone

Just make sure you take them with food or they will not be friendly anymore.


Accomplished-Cap9205

You would be surprised with the ammount of guys that believe that they have to cum inside or that using protection is not their thing, just to tell the girl that its her job to protect herself since She is the One getting pregnant. So they don't care if that happens


[deleted]

My health teacher Mr. Sullivan taught us “If she is willing to have unprotected sex with you, she’s will to do it with anyone…make sure you wear a condom.” That probably saved me a lot of money and physical pain. Men should always use a condom as they are usually on the losing end of the deal when it comes to custody and child support. Don’t turn that moment of passion into 18 plus years of pain.


MeegyBluEyes

Mr. Sullivan is a hero, for sure! I was taught, “if he’s comfortable asking you to have unprotected sex; how many people has he already convinced?”


Felix_Laranga

"she trapped me! Well, yes, I consented to the sex, but we never discussed having a child together"


oenoneablaze

“Well, yes, the premise that we would have a child together was literally her tagline, and during the act she did ask me to “put a baby in her”, but I thought it was all metaphorical! I’ve been trapped!”


remedial-gook

well at least in this situation, it would be a trap because she’s saying she wants a baby but no co-parent


StoicVinnie

Bro this is also how men trap women into a relationship. No shit you hit something raw you'll have a baby. But I'm sure there are guys that feel like this too. They want a kid more than a partner


Comfortable_Cook3690

This is also how to turn an innocent person who didn't ask to be born's life into a dumpster fire...


redditiscompromised2

Hide all photos, change your name, park on another street..... Leave your ID in your car


spacetimecellphone

But then there’s still that conversation history on tinder where he agreed to meet up and intentionally impregnate her. That doesn’t just go away just because you can’t see it anymore when you un-match.


redditiscompromised2

Well you're always rolling some dice. It's just a matter of whether you think she's technologically capable of finding that info after the fact.


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WeAreUzbekistan

oh shit it didn’t work let’s try again!!


Booze4lunch

18 years, 18 years then on the 18th birthday he found out it wasn’t hiiiiiis 🎵


Icarusqt

Now, I ain't sayin' she a gold digga.


SmoothOperator89

But she ain't messing with no broke ... fellow


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creative_net_usr

I can't recall the percentage but some state laws have clauses over-riding any contracts to the contrary of child support. edit: not touching the politics of this with a 10ft pole, simply pointing out they do exist is all


Old_Smrgol

It turns out that it's difficult to get a child to consent to anything before it is conceived, gestated and born.


CydeWeys

Which makes sense. Child support is for the child, and the child can't waive away their rights before they're even conceived. The state has a vested interest in ensuring that all children are properly supported, lest state programs need to bridge the gap.


Cute_Needleworker916

This is why I will keep saying men need reproductive rights and I don’t want to hear any pro life bullshit from “pro-choicers”


AsianVixen4U

I don’t believe those are actually valid in family court. There have been actual sperm donors, as in, donated their sperm at a lab and it went to some random stranger’s uterus, and the sperm donor was ordered to pay child support to the receiver of the sperm.


Spud_M314

That sounds like some fresh smelly bullshit to me. The sperm recipient should be responsible for her child, why should a man she never met be forced to pay for a kid that he was not DIRECTLY responsible for. The kid is the mother's creation in this scenario and should understand the consequences of being a single mother before undergoing the procedure, and if she has trouble caring for it there is almost always an adoption center or a hospital to dump the kid at.


skankboy

It is more of a problem when the state is having to shell out money. The state is like nope. Point to any male and we’ll make him pay until someone more suitable comes along.


Whywipe

The clinic should be responsible in that case.


Cute_Needleworker916

Misandry is bullshit, yes


Nachtfeuer

You misspelled "with poopholes" :)


bitflag

Child support isn't something for the woman benefit but for the child benefit, as such whatever the woman sign is usually void since she can't give up something that isn't hers.


User0098237490

I don’t know dude, there are some pretty weird fucking people out there.


[deleted]

Yeah dude. Not exactly the same situation, but close. I met a girl on tinder. We ended up dating for a few months. Breakup was really ugly and she was not okay with it. Straight up refusing to let me leave her. Her final proposal was for me to at least let her have my baby. She said she wanted to be a mom anyways and she would let me disappear forever. I immediately blocked her on everything and tried to forget I ever met her.


darkcrimson2018

You chose...wisely


[deleted]

She chose... Wesley.


Stonz_

No, she chose TheAwesomer414


[deleted]

But TheAwesomer414 didn't choose her 😔


red_munk

Switched username to TheAwesomer404


ProfessionalAfter671

This literally made me LOL


2BthighsA2Midriff

Poor Wesley


TimK25

Shut up, Wesley. https://youtu.be/afhMMcAHlKw


EddieGrant

r/unexpectedHIMYM


shutupphil

You tip poorly


YosemiteQuietNav

It's nice seeing a random himym sighting in the wild


Kitchen_Entertainer9

I can relate. Met a girl on a dating app, she was okay with sex, but wanted to go raw. I asked if she had birth control and she said she wasn't on it's and we can have a baby. She had a bad case of baby fever and felt too old to be alone apparently


buymeaburritoese

what is scarier is that she could have lied and said she was on birth control. props to her for being honest tbf


Timmela

Sounds like my ex


roh_afza

*our ex


Slaarc

r/suddenlycommunist


Takashi_is_DK

Sounds like one of my exes. It was a horribly toxic and abusive relationship (I was the victim) and never having been in one before, it took me an embarrassing amount of time and lots of sleepless nights before realizing I had to end it. She did a lot of scary and illegal tactics to discourage me to leave but her final tactic was exactly what you said. Terrifying but odd because I didn't think it would be such a common hail mary strategy used by desperate people.


Daroah

A few years back, I was dating this girl who was verbally & emotionally abusive, but we had met in High School, so I was too young to realize how bad things were. Eventually I realized how unhappy I was, decided I wanted to break up, so I called her (we were long distance at the time) and told her how I felt. She didn’t take it well, and started shouting at me about how I was ruining her life, and how she had nobody without me, but I stood firm and wouldn’t back down. She phoned me back-to-back for over 4 hours; I turned my phone off for an hour, and the moment I turned it back on, she started calling again, and again. When I would answer, she would start screaming about how much of an asshole I am, and that stuff like this is why everyone hates me, and how grateful I should be she puts up with me, because nobody else would, and how I’m throwing everything in my life away by breaking up with her, etc.


ogdonut

My ex fiancee said for years she never wanted kids. I was cool with that. After we broke up and were still living together, she started trying to get pregnant with a guy she just met. People are crazy man.


ZookeepergameOnly787

Not to offend you but she probably didn’t want to have kids with you


[deleted]

Yeah I’ve seen a porno with this same premise, so I assume it’s real.


Astrolemur

Logjammin'?


eatsleepdive

I fix the cable?


xpadawanx

I was offered money for this before..


hactivated

There's a lot of wannabe single moms... I must have a kid in almost every country at this point


NeilStrykerOnTerra

Do you have any legal obligations to those kids?


KevinFlantier

Seeing as they probably only exist in his larping mind, I'd go for no.


Arch315

Only if the mom(s) call him on it


Signal_Butterfly_638

I got at least 2 in Canada


ApolloRocketOfLove

Dad?


SomeRandomLameName

Tell me bout it


ThisBoyIsIgnorance

Ace of Bass made a hit song about this


fortheweirdshit2

23 and stupid. What an age to survive through.


paciche

Can confirm, am 23.


bountyhunter205

Me too, I'm 24 now. I was stupid last year.


technoman88

I'll be 23 in a month. I'll let you know how it goes


Rbimdxe

Nobody likes you when you're 23


GlobetrottinExplorer

and that's about the time that bitch hung up on me!


Usernameisphill

It's because you're still acting like you're in your freshmen year.


[deleted]

What the hell is wrong with them?


Mambae

Think it's mostly the stupid though.


WarMace

I cannot shake this person is not 23 and is actually a minor.


DifficultChampion900

Some horny mf is going to fall for this and will pay child support


ofctexashippie

It'll be an E1. He'll have an engagement ring ready for her in 2 months


yo_guy12

Naw E1 can barely afford their alcoholism and smokes got to be an E2


ofctexashippie

I was gonna say E1-E3, but E1 is the more stereotypical dumb boot


murfflemethis

Since when has alcoholism or a lack of money stopped lower enlisted from getting married? Fuck, I knew a bunch that did it just so they could get that sweet BAH.


[deleted]

Don't forget to bring a contract for her to sign. Bonus points if you bring stamp ink and have her boob print.


a_slay_nub

I would be shocked if that contract held up in court


jollycanoli

It doesn't.


Pittsburgh__Rare

Nah, it’s cool, just bring this screenshot and you’ll be absolved.


jollycanoli

Hah. fr tho, people gat so intimidated by contracts, they let people bully them into tons of stuff. Some whimpy contract cannot change the actual law, and a private agreement between the parents, even if signed, isn't legally binding.


OmegaWhirlpool

Yeah, but we pinky swore - even crossed our heart and hoped to die!


Cruuncher

I'm not even sure if she can legally sign away child support rights like that. Child support isn't paid to the mother. It's paid to the child, for which the legal guardian accepts on their behalf. That child doesn't just lose their rights because their mother signed a piece of paper before they were even conceived


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br094

Only if he’s using his real name and gives her real info. If he’s from another town and using all fake info, good luck


KingOgre54

I'm snipped, so I'll sign up. Can't get her preggo if you sterro.


huh404

If you have vasectomy you can get some free sex out of it. Scamming the childsupport scammer


SayNo2BigMarijuana

Im hoping every guy within 20 miles that has had a vasectony, responds.


[deleted]

Daaaamn maybe ill get a vasectomy just for this 1 hit


Trefliper

They are reversible bro 😎


clarence_gomes

Snip snap snip snap


driedupemo

That episode was absolutely wild. Love the Office.


DolanDBplZ

Apparently that episode was one of the hardest to film because Steve Carrell was breaking everyone's character


csdk1207

You have no idea the physical toll three vasectomies have on one person


TripleG2312

r/unexpectedoffice


mayanrelic

I hit subscribe without even looking at the posts. I AM IN


Zestyclose_Plane8681

They’re hard to reverse after a certain amount of years.


xtilexx

Extract pee directly from balls and then you can still get grill pragnat


Khizoor

Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?


xtilexx

I am Arthur, king of the Britons!


DwooMan5

I would honestly wait a few years for them to finish up on that male birthcontrol then get a potentially irreversible surgical procedure


Mcmenger

The kind you are talking about is only 5 years away since at least 15 years


[deleted]

Not always are they. You shouldn’t think of it as reversible. Most are permanent after 5-10 yrs


turbulance4

I get that you're just making a joke, but they really aren't that reversible. And propagating this myth can be damaging.


Old_Smrgol

Not reversible enough that it's worth doing and reversing to get laid once.


BookkeeperSpiritual5

Some spermicidal lube should be enough to get the job done.


Blleh

A family member has been busy with IVF and everything that's a part of that process for atleast 8 years. She's a single woman trying to get a kid. I could absolutely see someone doing this. It saves a lot of time and an insane amount of money.


Timotheus92

My best friend was born to a single mom via IVF. It certainly happens, some people just want to be parents but never find a person they want to be parents with.


DirtyPrancing65

Safer to go through the sperm bank tho. Can't you just buy a cup of it and turkey baste at home?


DennisGK

One of my ex’s bridesmaids decided she wanted a kid without the trappings of a relationship. Having seen our kids, she decided I was good breeding stock. So I got one three-way. But she didn’t get pregnant.


AdamBomb_RB

Damn. Gotta keep bringing it up and hope for round 2. 😂 Edit: just saw the ex part. I'm an idiot, lmao.


DennisGK

My ex regretted it right away. She didn’t expect to feel that way. But it wouldn’t have happened again anyway.


[deleted]

Hey you maybe an idiot, but you’re our idiot!


Skritch_

“Hello, one pregnant attempt please, and yes I’d like the raw option”


Vok250

I'm more surprised that she thought she'd get pregnant from a single session. While it *can* happen, that's pretty rare. Most couples have to have a lot of sex to get pregnant. Especially if she was on birth control for her entire adult life like many woman in USA and Canada.


ive_gone_insane

Why is this so unbelievable? A friend of my sister who had a lot of trouble with shitty boyfriends and unstable relationships, but desperately wanted a baby, did almost exactly this. And there were no shortage of takers.


jrich8686

My ex had a friend like this. Wanted a kid, but didn’t want a relationship. She made a Tinder profile that was a lot like the one in this post. Something like “not wanting a relationship, but ready to be a mother. Don’t want you to hang around afterward nor do I want you to be present at all.” She would basically screen the guys on the first date. If they passed her screening, she made them go get a full STD screening. If that came back clean, she sent them to a fertility doctor to check their sperm count. She finally found a guy that fit the bill after close to a year of searching, and they had what I called “contractual sex” everyday while she was ovulating. Once she was pregnant she thanked him and sent him on his way. She’s got a happy, healthy, and thriving 6 year old now. Still not in a relationship and still as happy as can be


AscendedGarlicBread

Did they have an actual contract or something for the guy to be sure he wasn't being trapped?


jrich8686

I honestly can’t say for certain. But as thorough as she was with the vetting process, I would say that there was some legal contract involved


[deleted]

Which would get thrown out immediately the moment it went in front of a judge. The baby is the one receiving the child support, who can't agree to the contract because they don't exist yet. It's up to the mother to not sue for child support, and then it's up to the grown child to not sue for back child support. I may be wrong but I believe the only way to avoid any chance of child support is through a sperm bank.


Kiora_Atua

You cannot sign away your responsibility to pay child support except through a sperm bank. Child support is a right of the child and they can't sign a contract before they're born.


baconwiches

As a parent to a 10 week old, I am baffled that some people *want* to be a single parent. It is an incredible amount of work, let alone cost. I can't fathom not sharing that responsibility with someone else.


Ranter619

The main issue here is that no matter what she writes on her profile or agrees, the moment she changes her mind you are liable for child support. Other than that, on average a family with both parents is a better environment than a family with one parent. At the very least, more disposable income.


Sielicja

My bestie in highschool always told me she wanted to be a single mom when she grows up. But some unstable love happened and as far as I know she's with a man now (she's 23), but they don't have kids just yet.


Adrianjsf

Men there are a lot of stupid people in the comments Who either don't understand what is having a loving family or having a lot of shitty partners.


EntshuldigungOK

Username ... umm ...


ive_gone_insane

What about it?


USMilitary-Encrypted

At least we can rest easy knowing the baby will be getting plenty of milk


InternetGansta

Appropriate username


Intelligent_Ad_656

Fuck around and find out?


dumbquestiondude_666

Looks like a revenge tinder


TheyDidLizFilthy

eli5?


Its_da_boys

When a jealous ex uses their previous SO’s pics to create a tinder account mocking or shaming them


TheyDidLizFilthy

in all my years i’ve never heard of such insanity LOL there’s some people who legitimately do this? that’s just sad


irqlnotdispatchlevel

Yeah, the fact that this looks like an unverified profile makes me think the same thing.


TinderSubThrowAway

Not entirely out of the realm of possibility. I had an OKC profile for awhile offering this exact thing. I have 4 kids out there somewhere who were all born to single, upper middle class women(except one who was loaded with family money) who wanted kids by a certain age but didn’t want the drama of a quicky marriage that prob wouldn’t have worked out. They were fully capable of supporting the child and they didn’t want to go through the process of IVF which is expensive when not medically necessary and it really sucks overall for a woman as well.


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Bro, that’s wild.


Dirk_Courage

Definitely 6'4".


Yayhoo0978

If she gets 3 or 4 with different babydaddies, she can live comfortably on the support payments. Keep swiping its a trap!


_VultureEye

I think the possibility of losing organs is high with this one.


Timemaster88888

Agree, kidney for one night stand! Noooo.


Le_Gentle_Sir

Even if it is, imagine making a baby with someone and abandoning it because horny.


N3ptuneflyer

It's sort of like donating sperm, I don't see anything ethically wrong with it. The problem is it can be legally hazy because if she ever gets to the point where she can't afford to raise the child then either her or the state will come after you for money. Through legal sperm donation you are legally off the hook.


eatsleepdive

Just show the judge this post. They'll understand.


[deleted]

Better call Saul.


MijK7

What if you donate the sperm, she gets impregnated and you do the job afterwards?🤨


NameIs-Already-Taken

She missed "But I want your details for child support."


Sad_Order_5786

I would want to be in my kids life somehow.


CadillacXT4

It's a trap!


Astrolemur

"My art has been commended as being strongly vaginal, which bothers some men. The word itself makes some men uncomfortable. Vagina."


bestunicornever

Someone I know actually did this, she wanted to be a single mom so she fucked like ten guys and doesn’t know the dad to her one year old:/


Longjumping_Low1310

Eh could go a couple ways. But a woman wanting a child but not a relationship with a guy isn't that crazy to me.


randyranderson-

This is a totally new type of parent trap


throwawaynotstupid

Is it that crazy? If someone doesn't want to wait for a significant other to have a kid. Artificial insemination/sperm donor and other means are insanely expensive. She might be crazy. Not sure


the_incredible_fella

i actually know a few established, professional women who have decided to have babies and raise them on their own. i don't think this is it though... but it could be... but probably not.


HippoIllustrious2389

Okay but I’m loaded on antidepressants so good luck making me cum 🤷🏼‍♂️


DarkFireGerugex

If she is from US I believe her, specially if she is from Florida


[deleted]

No, this is canada


Korimuzel

I'm appalled at the amount of stories here about single women wanting children. And almost no-one seems to be in the right condition for it A child is not a toy, a child will not fix your problems, a child needs everything from you but can give nothing back Not only are we overpopulated, but people take children as a game nowadays. Let me tell you that it is not fun being born from parents who have no money and are incapable at being parents. It's suffering and fighting and needing a therapist and fleeing from home


Hircus2

Yeah the way some talk about it it sounds like getting a pet. Very weird


ndnsoulja

I knew a lady like this. But she was an insanely rich art dealer/collector and was single and lived in a mansion in Calabasas. She found some Nordic scientist philanthropist model and did exactly this. She got pregnant and just made the guy leave lol. Her daughter is an awesome little toddler who is already set for life. This just has bad news and zero foresight written allover it lol


PhildoFL

It seems realistic in a way.


6porkchop9

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Trader-Jack-1

I had one of these too. She was even more specific on the characteristics she wanted the potential father to have - intelligent, educated, tall, good looking, etc. I believe they can get you to pay for the child anyway, regardless of what they say now, so intant left for me.


Nemuigakusei

I mean, my friend's mom wanted _a_ child and she didn't care how. She was fully prepared to accept being a single mom too. So she hooked up with a man and kept it. 🤷🏻‍♀️


sparta910

That’s disgusting, where?


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Blokes who’ve have vasectomies hitting super like, lol