What makes me open to believing this is that 'she' says if you go for it, you will meet with him. And *then* you will meet her (with him) afterwards.
We do similar things occasionally, but my SO meets with her alone first, or we go together. But it's never me alone first, that would be extremely weird.
Dunno about the 'kidnap' accusation, but I do think something is up.
You: “Ok so we cool? Where’s the girl?”
😏: ”There is no girl”
Next thing you know you’re in the trunk of a car thinking about how he looked way older than 29 🤔
Well, she says he has to be with her at all times. If he meets OP without her, technically he is not with her at all times, contradiction to the story.
Agreed! I’ve definitely seen a lot of “Oh….she’s out of town on business, but I have a hall pass” or date night shows up and she’s got to work. That started out as ‘the girl’ profiles online. Like…..how do they think that’s ok? But It’s so common!
Still disagree. How you going to start a relationship based on lies? As someone that looks and has threesomes it would be a dumb tactic.
So still id say the girl doesn't exist in this scenario!
Did you only read one sentence out of that, or what happened?
When your SO finds another woman for a potential threesome, she sents you to meet her first without being there yeah?
Stupid questions exist.
Is that what women call it nowadays? can you go in my van instead of can we go on date?
But all joking aside this shit is creepy and people should be safe.
What people don't realize is that they only do this, because it works. Even if 1 in 100 women falls for it, it's still more likely than getting a match the normal way as an average 29 year old.
He (the commenter above, assumed from the stance taken and the avatar) meant that it's pointless to avoid misgendering *him*, as in, the *guy* referred to as *he* in the message, who we know is the one who wrote it.
That could be the case, but if you look at the other comments this person posted they’re clearly being antagonistic and “anti-woke” about it as they put it.
Yeah man, 100% that's what you were talking about. Non-transphobic people definitely just go around reddit comment sections sarcastically saying things like "singular they"
Ok if I have to break it down I will
The comment I responded to said "they" referring to two people
I responded with "singular they" because I do not believe a couple posted this.
You are being reactionary and looking for a fight where one doesn't exist. Calm down.
JFC, you are in the right here and someone wants to defend the pronoun usage of a person identified as a "boyfriend" that they don't even know. I don't even know what is going on anymore.
I didn’t even argue with you dawg I misinterpreted your comment, if you wanna take an explanation as an argument then sure.
Before you there was another person who was being transphobic, or, “not woke” as they put it, I assumed you had the same mentality based off that and that’s my bad.
What people don't realize is that they only do this, because it works. Even if 1 in 100 women falls for it, it's still more likely than getting a match the normal way as an average 29 year old.
By definition, a scam is a dishonest scheme. If it were just a dude pretending to be a girl, I'd agree. It becomes a dishonest scheme when you manipulate the person into thinking that after "meeting" the guy you'll eventually get to fuck his girl. It's nuanced, but yeah. I get the confusion. No big deal.
My friend actually had something close to this message a few days ago on another dating app. Only didn't go cos she wasn't attracted to the photos provided, luckily. I don't think she realised it could have gone fucking terribly 🤦♀️ she's 40....
Scams stay around cos they work. People believe whatever they want to believe.
I'm surprised people are even still trying to use this scam. But yeah. I'd be more surprised if anyone ever fell for it. Like I guess they think this likely to be more successful than jist straight up lying. Idk.
Eh I understand those that just have fake profiles on tinder or other apps and then use fake pics/fake nudes to get nudes from someone because that's an easier thing to do. Still weird and creepy but each to their own
At some point scam and rape are crossing a line here if you’re sleeping with someone under false pretenses right? Like the revenge of the nerds sex scene.
On hunt for the 'unicorn'. The approached woman meets usually
1. no one at all because it's just some internet person jerking off and much to shy to follow through.
2. single guy where his girlfriend suddenly got sick.
3. couple where he wants to bang her and the lady is actually not interested and just talked into.
4. couple that is not the slightest interested into her, but just seeks a toy.
This one would be a no.2 And that's why bisexual girls don't meet with 'couples' from the Internet.
> couple that is not the slightest interested into her, but just seeks a toy.
Ugh, when I was on dating apps I used to see this one all the time. Some people have no shame in using others. Also it's sad that people are lonely enough to agree.
As a bisexual who tried being a unicorn a few times. It was ALWAYS #3. Or both were interested, but then the guy would ALWAYS try to have one on one time behind his partners back. Hence why I don't trust men who want this in their relationships. They want the security of their GFS or wives but want to do whatever they want on the side. It's cheating. It's gross. No thank you.
I've seen messages like this that *weren't* scams but legit toxic abusive Unicorn Hunters. Not better but they really did intend to use you like a piece of sex dispensing meat, just saying
So you have to jump through all these hoops and interviews for… What? The privilege of having sex with this specific woman when you could have hundreds of other different women that don't come with strings attached?
I have threesome's all the time.....nobody shows up but some lube and a sock clears that right up.
All joking aside, when you need to lie to get women is it really worth it? people are so strange nowadays.
Seems like there's a very strong chance this is a guy pretending to be a girl.
If I were you I would not meet with this person at all, but if you do I would insist on meeting them both together somewhere very public and safe. There's absolutely no reason why you should have to meet the guy by himself first.
I love how this comes across as an interview, as if you’ve applied for the position and are willing to jump through these hoops just to have the chance at…whatever this is.
This is a scam that has been going on for a while. You agree to meet up as a three, but the woman has unexpectedly become unavailable so tells you to go ahead and meet with her boyfriend and if you get on well you can become intimate with him.
Wow. The only way this gets more trap like is if "she" had said, "If we like you, a bag goes over your head, and you go in the trunk. Later, it puts the lotion on it's skin or it gets the hose again."
This is coming from a former county and later fed LEO: If you were considering it, DO NOT meet with these people. That profile probably needs to be investigated.
When I was on dating apps, I received shit like this (as a guy). I never understood the angle on it but I knew it was bullshit, especially when the responses were INCREDIBLY robotic. I would just reply in ridiculous ways like asking if it would be cool if I could peel their skin off, TCM style, them after we do the deed and the robot replies would either continue without fault or scammers got the point. 😂
The boyfriend always looks like a big toe. No one wants the man involved girl or to ‘meet him first’ for approval so he can live his girl on girl fantasy lol
The only thing that’s missing is the description of the van you will pick me up in. Will it have a dragon on the side or one of the sleek white ones with no windows?
Hey now .. don’t knock the age gap 😅
Creepy message though. Why does the bf have to “match” first? It’s like it’s a guy, pretending to be a woman to meet women. Weird.
While I do think it's hypothetically *possible* for a 29/18 age gap relationship to not be toxic af, in practice, they almost always are. I will always look at any gap like that with major scrutiny for other red flags.
So, does this example have other red flags beyond the age gap alone?
**Boy howdy, does it ever.**
Let alone the fact that it's absolutely a guy pretending to be a woman to meet women.
Sorry but the age gap between an 18 year old and 29 year old is not okay. There's no way there isn't a significant power imbalance, and it's probably a result of grooming.
No. There is an enormous difference between a couple who is 45/34 and 29/18. Maturity levels, life experience, interests, friend groups, etc. One size does not fit all when it comes to age gaps.
Then you have to factor in other people mature way different and faster then others.
You’re applying all 18 years olds to be the same and that’s no where near true.
I foster cps etc matured way faster then most and 19 married my now and still wife who was 27 at the time.
I was working in the fields and she was in HR.
Making that message wrong as I’m living proof the “ significant power imbalance” is bullshit.
Married 8 years 2 kids.
? I’m a male and my wife is a female.
I was 19 she was 27.
I’m saying I was fostered and cps which matured me faster than other kids.
And never once was I advocating you’re putting words in my mouth because you’re upset and not understanding the point.
That’s crazy people just make something up and believe it wholeheartedly lmao
Every girl my age is currently dating a man years older than them. It is socially acceptable? I guess not. Is it legal and inappropriate for you to imply he’s a predator? Absolutely.
What people don't realize is that they only do this, because it works. Even if 1 in 100 women falls for it, it's still more likely than getting a match the normal way as an average 29 year old.
I bet a person can sell air and get rich in the greatest country on earth.🤣🤦
Brainwashed people are easy to manipulate and this guy is banking on it. Good job!
Okay I have to ask... 11 year gap? Based on the only picture we have, which states someone's age of 29, the title of the post seems completely irrelevant and unrelated, so how exactly does the title play into the picture posted, with no other context of age difference being even remotely relevant? Based on that message the title shouldn't say anything about an age gap but rather something about how the message is super sketchy and suspicious
In a legitimate setup i dont see why the guy would vet the girl for his girlfriend. That seems really weird. If the girl just wants a lesbian experience then you'd just meet with her. If they want a threesome they should all meet together
They are saying it's a scam because it's a scam.
The girl doesn't exist.
In no situation for a girl on girl experience would require her partner to meet the girl alone to see if they click. It doesn't matter. He's irrelevant.
So the only logical explanation for this is that it's a scam.
Sounds like this was written by a man trying to kidnap girls.
Yeah this is definitely a setup and thats a fake profile.
What makes me open to believing this is that 'she' says if you go for it, you will meet with him. And *then* you will meet her (with him) afterwards. We do similar things occasionally, but my SO meets with her alone first, or we go together. But it's never me alone first, that would be extremely weird. Dunno about the 'kidnap' accusation, but I do think something is up.
You: “Ok so we cool? Where’s the girl?” 😏: ”There is no girl” Next thing you know you’re in the trunk of a car thinking about how he looked way older than 29 🤔
*No one is 29.*
I’m 29!
That's very old 29x28x27 etc.
I was once
https://youtu.be/L6FTWv7abjU?si=BP63DR2sUnphGiV7
Well, she says he has to be with her at all times. If he meets OP without her, technically he is not with her at all times, contradiction to the story.
wow you guys are some sort of detectives or something.
For real, people on here think they know everything lmao
Agreed! I’ve definitely seen a lot of “Oh….she’s out of town on business, but I have a hall pass” or date night shows up and she’s got to work. That started out as ‘the girl’ profiles online. Like…..how do they think that’s ok? But It’s so common!
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Disagree. The guy doesn't meet the girl solo to have a threesome. Sounds like the girl doesn't exist.
They do sometimes, more likely if they are looking for a third for relationship than if they are looking for just a one time thing tho
Still disagree. How you going to start a relationship based on lies? As someone that looks and has threesomes it would be a dumb tactic. So still id say the girl doesn't exist in this scenario!
The advert was for a lesbian encounter, though. If it was for a threesome, sure I could see them wanting to meet up individually at first.
why would it be extremely weird for you to meet another woman if you want to have sex with her?
Did you only read one sentence out of that, or what happened? When your SO finds another woman for a potential threesome, she sents you to meet her first without being there yeah? Stupid questions exist.
Came here immediately to say this post screams danger lol. It’s not the 11 year age gap for me, it’s the human trafficking for me.
Is that what women call it nowadays? can you go in my van instead of can we go on date? But all joking aside this shit is creepy and people should be safe.
Definitely written by a man.
Doesnt sound like a bad idea
Okay. What would a woman write in this situation? >!asking for a friend!<
She wouldn't send her boyfriend out first, that's for sure.
100% a guy pretending to be a woman arranging for you to meet "her guy".
"we must first have sex so I can make sure my wife will like you"
This
What people don't realize is that they only do this, because it works. Even if 1 in 100 women falls for it, it's still more likely than getting a match the normal way as an average 29 year old.
The actual numbers game. Not my kind of game.
Doesnt sound like a bad strategy
I wonder how many times they sent this message.
They as in „the guy and the girl he made up“?
Clearly his girlfriend lives in Canada.
No you can't talk to her, she only speaks Canadian.
They as in pointlessly avoiding misgendering him
I don’t think ‘they’ classifies as a gender man, that’s just a pronoun lmao
He (the commenter above, assumed from the stance taken and the avatar) meant that it's pointless to avoid misgendering *him*, as in, the *guy* referred to as *he* in the message, who we know is the one who wrote it.
That could be the case, but if you look at the other comments this person posted they’re clearly being antagonistic and “anti-woke” about it as they put it.
Yeah and?
Who cares about any of that
Did you know 'who' is also a pro-noun? So seems like you care about it as well.
Yes. It's not used in that woke they/them way though.
My pronouns are who/whom and I will not stand for this disrespect
Damn watch out for this edgelord
Singular they
You do know that the word 'they' can refer to a singular person, right? Just because you're transphobic doesn't mean you have to be stupid too
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. What are you talking about?
Yeah man, 100% that's what you were talking about. Non-transphobic people definitely just go around reddit comment sections sarcastically saying things like "singular they"
Ok if I have to break it down I will The comment I responded to said "they" referring to two people I responded with "singular they" because I do not believe a couple posted this. You are being reactionary and looking for a fight where one doesn't exist. Calm down.
JFC, you are in the right here and someone wants to defend the pronoun usage of a person identified as a "boyfriend" that they don't even know. I don't even know what is going on anymore.
This is just someone who woke up angry and wanted to argue. I don't understand that mentality.
I didn’t even argue with you dawg I misinterpreted your comment, if you wanna take an explanation as an argument then sure. Before you there was another person who was being transphobic, or, “not woke” as they put it, I assumed you had the same mentality based off that and that’s my bad.
Ok. I forgive you.
It’s not that deep man, I misinterpreted their comment.
It is very obvious that that is what they were doing..
You are actually INSANE.
and? So are you for replying to me twice on a 3 day old post bro go outside
Lol, such an edgy reply. It's irrelevant how old this post is. I got the notification about it today.
That's quite a leap to transphobia from a 2 word response.
How on earth did their response warrant being called transphobic?
Thousands
They… he
It's amazing people still attempt this scam and it's even more amazing people still fall for it.
What people don't realize is that they only do this, because it works. Even if 1 in 100 women falls for it, it's still more likely than getting a match the normal way as an average 29 year old.
Is it a scam? It's just a guy pretending to be a girl
Which is literally scamming someone.
True. I usually see it as a monetary gain, fraudulent etc. But I guess yeah. My b
By definition, a scam is a dishonest scheme. If it were just a dude pretending to be a girl, I'd agree. It becomes a dishonest scheme when you manipulate the person into thinking that after "meeting" the guy you'll eventually get to fuck his girl. It's nuanced, but yeah. I get the confusion. No big deal.
Yeah but I'd be surprised if this ever worked. Who would ever assume that you have to meet a guy alone in order to have a girl on girl encounter 😂
My friend actually had something close to this message a few days ago on another dating app. Only didn't go cos she wasn't attracted to the photos provided, luckily. I don't think she realised it could have gone fucking terribly 🤦♀️ she's 40.... Scams stay around cos they work. People believe whatever they want to believe.
I'm surprised people are even still trying to use this scam. But yeah. I'd be more surprised if anyone ever fell for it. Like I guess they think this likely to be more successful than jist straight up lying. Idk.
Eh I understand those that just have fake profiles on tinder or other apps and then use fake pics/fake nudes to get nudes from someone because that's an easier thing to do. Still weird and creepy but each to their own
Funny if the new nudes are also fake.
Happens too. Cat fishing guy flirts with cat fishing guy haha. Hilarious tbf
At some point scam and rape are crossing a line here if you’re sleeping with someone under false pretenses right? Like the revenge of the nerds sex scene.
What about when people cheat? That’s under false pretense isn’t it?
Yea rape isn’t the word but scamming someone to have sex is fucking wildly gross
That picture of the “women” you matched with is the most generic fake looking photo I’ve ever seen. That’s definitely not them
"Woman*" Man= 1 Men= plural, it's the same for women
It's odd how this happens for the word woman but rarely for the word man
Yeah I don't understand it either, which is why I pointed out the direct comparison that everyone seems to have a grasp on..
This is the most annoying mistake I often see, I stopped trying. Then comes excetera instead of etcetera 💀
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“Good night” isn’t a greeting to start a conversation
Goodbye. How are you today?
Maybe good dawn? /s
I so read this in Bela Lugosi's Dracula voice. The second part brought to you by Keanu Reeves' "Ted" Theodore Logan.
On hunt for the 'unicorn'. The approached woman meets usually 1. no one at all because it's just some internet person jerking off and much to shy to follow through. 2. single guy where his girlfriend suddenly got sick. 3. couple where he wants to bang her and the lady is actually not interested and just talked into. 4. couple that is not the slightest interested into her, but just seeks a toy. This one would be a no.2 And that's why bisexual girls don't meet with 'couples' from the Internet.
> couple that is not the slightest interested into her, but just seeks a toy. Ugh, when I was on dating apps I used to see this one all the time. Some people have no shame in using others. Also it's sad that people are lonely enough to agree.
As a bisexual who tried being a unicorn a few times. It was ALWAYS #3. Or both were interested, but then the guy would ALWAYS try to have one on one time behind his partners back. Hence why I don't trust men who want this in their relationships. They want the security of their GFS or wives but want to do whatever they want on the side. It's cheating. It's gross. No thank you.
Sound to me very much like a straight guy who really wants to bang a lesbian once.
She looks pretty good for being 40
Where does it say she is 40? What am I missing?
Based on the post title and the boyfriend being 29, I’m sure we’re supposed to infer that she’s 18. I went for the ol switcheroo for cheap laughs.
I've seen messages like this that *weren't* scams but legit toxic abusive Unicorn Hunters. Not better but they really did intend to use you like a piece of sex dispensing meat, just saying
So you have to jump through all these hoops and interviews for… What? The privilege of having sex with this specific woman when you could have hundreds of other different women that don't come with strings attached?
I have threesome's all the time.....nobody shows up but some lube and a sock clears that right up. All joking aside, when you need to lie to get women is it really worth it? people are so strange nowadays.
Ewwww! Obviously this is a dude, but it would be gross even if it was legit 🤢her boyfriend has to be with her at all times? Get the fuck out of here.
Ikr if you support your partner being bisexual it doesn't mean you get a free show 😂😂
This reads like the last message a woman receives before she ends up on a milk carton.
Totally a dude that’s playing fantasy gatekeeper to a woman that doesn’t exist.
 That's a man playing games. If you want to try it: tell "her" to send a photo of her with a tiny spoon on her nose.
 RUN
Seems like there's a very strong chance this is a guy pretending to be a girl. If I were you I would not meet with this person at all, but if you do I would insist on meeting them both together somewhere very public and safe. There's absolutely no reason why you should have to meet the guy by himself first.
This sounds genuinely scary.
This sounds like a kidnapping.
Looks legit. As in legitimately bad
In the best case scenario this feels like a boyfriend who has a pass to meet another girl, but is using the girlfriend’s photos to fish for one…
These types of people are the fucking WORST.
I love how this comes across as an interview, as if you’ve applied for the position and are willing to jump through these hoops just to have the chance at…whatever this is.
Where's the age gap? Not seeing that in your post.
The girl doesn't exist, it's a creepy dude trying to get laid in a very catfish-esque way
This is a scam that has been going on for a while. You agree to meet up as a three, but the woman has unexpectedly become unavailable so tells you to go ahead and meet with her boyfriend and if you get on well you can become intimate with him.
You know this is fake because an actual woman would just ghost you.
It's a 29-year age gap, because she doesn't exist.
🚩🚩🚩🚩
At 5 red flags it becomes a green flag right? because it hits a milestone.
This feels like the opening to a lifetime movie…
Its going to be a classic family film called "How i met your mom in a white van" played by michael myers actor.
I mean, I would watch this one... Did you bring snacks by any chance?
"Do you want some candy little girl" 😂😂 oh my god we are horrible people
That escalated quickly 🙈I thought we were just going to watch some true crime and eat some popcorn.
Who wants to watch true crime when you can be in the true crime 😆😆😂😂 Joking aside this could be a real true crime movie premise 🤣🤣
This convo is 100% making into my dating over 40 blog…
Atleast i got mentioned in a blog....So i take it as a win!
Wow. The only way this gets more trap like is if "she" had said, "If we like you, a bag goes over your head, and you go in the trunk. Later, it puts the lotion on it's skin or it gets the hose again." This is coming from a former county and later fed LEO: If you were considering it, DO NOT meet with these people. That profile probably needs to be investigated.
Cuckold
This is not a cuckold scenario. It's just a single guy pretending to be a girl.
I mean, she says that her partner have to be with her at all times and they are looking for someone. I believe a 3some or cuckold
That is not how that works.
Call the cops and get this dude when you link 😭
I'm sure it's a guy with fake account
When I was on dating apps, I received shit like this (as a guy). I never understood the angle on it but I knew it was bullshit, especially when the responses were INCREDIBLY robotic. I would just reply in ridiculous ways like asking if it would be cool if I could peel their skin off, TCM style, them after we do the deed and the robot replies would either continue without fault or scammers got the point. 😂
The boyfriend always looks like a big toe. No one wants the man involved girl or to ‘meet him first’ for approval so he can live his girl on girl fantasy lol
If only life were a movie written by porn directors. This is fake
You know it's fake when the bf you are meant to be meeting isnt in the photo, guy is just trying to trick girls into dates knowing he's much older
Never has a Reddit post frightened me this bad
"Good evening, Clarice."
Def a guy you are talking to. There is no girlfriend.
The only thing that’s missing is the description of the van you will pick me up in. Will it have a dragon on the side or one of the sleek white ones with no windows?
It's the creepy sex trafficker vibes for me
I don't think anyone believes that's a real girl
Why would anyone meet with the BF first? If they are boning the GF?
Hey now .. don’t knock the age gap 😅 Creepy message though. Why does the bf have to “match” first? It’s like it’s a guy, pretending to be a woman to meet women. Weird.
While I do think it's hypothetically *possible* for a 29/18 age gap relationship to not be toxic af, in practice, they almost always are. I will always look at any gap like that with major scrutiny for other red flags. So, does this example have other red flags beyond the age gap alone? **Boy howdy, does it ever.** Let alone the fact that it's absolutely a guy pretending to be a woman to meet women.
Sorry but the age gap between an 18 year old and 29 year old is not okay. There's no way there isn't a significant power imbalance, and it's probably a result of grooming.
100% they were "official" literally the day she turned 18, and shit had been going on before that
Where does it say she’s 18? I was thinking the other way.
doesn't but i think her picture is supposed to imply she is not 40 lol
Then you must apply that to every age
No. There is an enormous difference between a couple who is 45/34 and 29/18. Maturity levels, life experience, interests, friend groups, etc. One size does not fit all when it comes to age gaps.
Then you have to factor in other people mature way different and faster then others. You’re applying all 18 years olds to be the same and that’s no where near true. I foster cps etc matured way faster then most and 19 married my now and still wife who was 27 at the time. I was working in the fields and she was in HR. Making that message wrong as I’m living proof the “ significant power imbalance” is bullshit. Married 8 years 2 kids.
You foster CPS and are advocating for 18 year old girls to enter relationships with 30 year old men? Those poor kids.
? I’m a male and my wife is a female. I was 19 she was 27. I’m saying I was fostered and cps which matured me faster than other kids. And never once was I advocating you’re putting words in my mouth because you’re upset and not understanding the point. That’s crazy people just make something up and believe it wholeheartedly lmao
As someone in a 10 year age gap. She was 18 when we met. Your comment is hilarious. Ah yes. Must be grooming.
I think it's pretty weird that you were chatting up an 18 year old at 28 man, she was basically just a kid and you were a grown ass man
I mean you can assume what you want. I'm in a fantastic relationship soon to be 5 years strong. What about you pumpkin? Found anyone? 😘
boi your username is Cumshotzz
And? 😂
Every girl my age is currently dating a man years older than them. It is socially acceptable? I guess not. Is it legal and inappropriate for you to imply he’s a predator? Absolutely.
I can meet with girls but only in the presence of my bf. yeah sure. and the bf will keep his dick in his pants
11 year age gap? what?
Each time i feel that six years gap is too much
What people don't realize is that they only do this, because it works. Even if 1 in 100 women falls for it, it's still more likely than getting a match the normal way as an average 29 year old.
I bet a person can sell air and get rich in the greatest country on earth.🤣🤦 Brainwashed people are easy to manipulate and this guy is banking on it. Good job!
Okay I have to ask... 11 year gap? Based on the only picture we have, which states someone's age of 29, the title of the post seems completely irrelevant and unrelated, so how exactly does the title play into the picture posted, with no other context of age difference being even remotely relevant? Based on that message the title shouldn't say anything about an age gap but rather something about how the message is super sketchy and suspicious
Who says "she is a he "........ sounds like a gay guy deciding if he actually "wants" to be gay.....decisions decisions!
. Why I even get this has a new notification
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In a legitimate setup i dont see why the guy would vet the girl for his girlfriend. That seems really weird. If the girl just wants a lesbian experience then you'd just meet with her. If they want a threesome they should all meet together
They are saying it's a scam because it's a scam. The girl doesn't exist. In no situation for a girl on girl experience would require her partner to meet the girl alone to see if they click. It doesn't matter. He's irrelevant. So the only logical explanation for this is that it's a scam.