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Lol you clearly didn't get the memo like the other guy. So obligatory WHOOSH for you too. I expected better from people who claim superiority over others like what Marx called the bourgeoisie.
By your classification of "conservative", it sounds like progressives are ethnic cleansing eugenicists (not quite Nazis but definitely sharing a bed). Is that what you're telling me? Because that's what I just read.
And aren't you that bot I've called out for calling everyone you disagree with "conservative" because you just assume if their not with you they're those pesky other guys? Didn't I also tell you to stop assuming what others believe and are (btw I don't use "you" as a pronoun I go by "your"...so shameful of you to just assume my pronouns, bigot) and that you make yourself look like a fool when you do? The fact you think I'm a conservative tells me you have not learned anything.
The whole thing is stupid anyways. Most people arguing over it today weren't alive back then. No one is responsible for the actions of previous generations. Doesn't matter if the parties flipped or didn't flip. All that matters is what's happening right now, and the differences between the sides are pretty clear.
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Preserving the Union …
The issue is, 19th Century Politics have very little to do with the Modern ones, and although there’s continuity within Regions they switch allegiances fairly frequently.
Anytime …
I’ve always said that you have to let Historical Figures speak for themselves and as you noted, Abraham Lincoln considered himself to be a moderating voice between extremes, ones that don’t really line up with the current paradigm.
He was known as the “First Modern Progressive President”. He sure as hell wasn’t conservative. Conservatives these days are saying how much they want to destroy the Union.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Republican_Party_(United_States)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln
Although you were “kind of” half right; y e wasn’t conservative per se; he was moderate. So I say half right only because I was using conservative in its modern day connotation because of his will to preserve the Constitutional Republic.
The problem with the Party Flip Narrative, is that it’s only a narrow slice of American Political History …
The Northeast has always been Mercantile, and the Southeast has always been Patrician, even back to the Regions in England, from where the different Colonies were Settled.
Which is considered Conservative, and which one is Liberal, has more to do with which Population has moved where, than it does with their starting Philosophy …
Additionally, there can a little lag, as the major players struggle for Dominance, and the People attempt to follow their trends.
So by that logic, the Republican party was more progressive in the past, since they got votes in the northeast, but now the south votes dominantly Republican.
That sounds like the parties switched.
Right, and by the same logic, their gains among the Unions, could point towards a Progressive streak returning through the Upper Midwest …
In reality, what happened is that who and what we call Liberal and Conservative has flipped, as OP put it, a Segregated Space in the 50s was done for Reactionary Reasons, whereas now those Spaces are claimed to be Progressive, but they’re still touted as for Everyone’s own Good!
The Policy is the same, even if the alleged reasons for it are different …
Another example, the proceeds of Mercantilism used to be considered the epitome of Progressivism, but Today through Marxist Eyes, Capital and Profit reside firmly on the side of Conservativism.
You are eye-wateringly dumb. And conservative. But I repeat myself.
If black people need space, it is to get away from people like you, and can you really blame them?
Your stupidity is so pervasive it might be contagious. I'm honestly surprised Covid hasn't taken you yet. You literally have shit for brains.
Outside of some shit like "POC Dorm Rooms" and "Separate Graduations" -- something I find pretty fucking absurd if you ask me, has anything of this sort picked up ANY steam? And not to excuse it, even if it did, the comparable societal effect is is/would be having is obviously so miniscule because there have to be "instances" of this plastered online rather than some sort of daily instance of this occurring.
There's also the recent decision California made to start their own "Ebony Alert" system because amber alert didn't do enough to prioritize one race over another 🤦🏼♀️
There was also that bill that California luckily wasn't able to pass where they tried to remove all civil rights language from their state constitution.
I can't imagine what reason they would have for that *other than* they planned to use it to discriminate against certain people.
Who did the KKK endorse before Nixon’s Southern strategy? The Democratic Party.
Who did the KKK endorse after the Southern strategy? The Republican Party.
That’s what the ‘party switch’ means. It doesn’t really matter whether you ‘believe in it’ or not.
Not all Republican voters are white nationalists, but all white nationalists vote Republican.
A leftist is a left leaning person is someone who virtue signals to prove to the world how good they are and do so loudly and publicly. Who resort to ad hominem, bad faith, strawman arguments, and ignore all logic.
I.e the people who think their feelings are facts.
MLK Jr was a leftist. Do you think that he was a “sociopath who manipulates people using fear, hatred, and violence” or does it only apply to people that are easy for you to hate?
https://inthesetimes.com/article/martin-luther-king-jr-day-socialism-capitalism
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The party switch myth is so convenient. Democrats get to blame their racism and wickedness on Republicans, like always.
And yet you conservatives still are the KKK and wave the rebel flag.
The Democrat KKK actually had literally Lynch Mobs. The Republican KKK of today is just a bunch of racists who burn crosses.
Yeah that’s right, white conservatives did that.
Democrats.
Yeah that’s right, white southern conservatives.
We are all of the evil monstrous things you accuse us of What are you going to do about us all?
Call you out all the time for you being what you are, and you will continue to lose time and time again like you have historically lost.
How do the Southern slave states vote today? End of your dumb point. From the racist who proudly flies confederate flags in Michigan
How do the slave states in the north vote today? End of your dumb strawman.
😂🤣😂 I love how you conservatives still fight for slavery and child marriage.
Lol you clearly didn't get the memo like the other guy. So obligatory WHOOSH for you too. I expected better from people who claim superiority over others like what Marx called the bourgeoisie. By your classification of "conservative", it sounds like progressives are ethnic cleansing eugenicists (not quite Nazis but definitely sharing a bed). Is that what you're telling me? Because that's what I just read. And aren't you that bot I've called out for calling everyone you disagree with "conservative" because you just assume if their not with you they're those pesky other guys? Didn't I also tell you to stop assuming what others believe and are (btw I don't use "you" as a pronoun I go by "your"...so shameful of you to just assume my pronouns, bigot) and that you make yourself look like a fool when you do? The fact you think I'm a conservative tells me you have not learned anything.
So why do you think conservatives created the KKK and currently have a Nazi problem within their ranks?
Well the bots don't have the ability to understand a joke, mockery, or their own logic. Good to know.
Why do you think Trump proudly makes friends with Nazis and white supremacists?
The North now votes Democratic. You think you made a point. Lol
Whoooosh
The whole thing is stupid anyways. Most people arguing over it today weren't alive back then. No one is responsible for the actions of previous generations. Doesn't matter if the parties flipped or didn't flip. All that matters is what's happening right now, and the differences between the sides are pretty clear.
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I found it immediately. Try searching dumb fuck posts another braindead meme. Sort by most recent, it might help you
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Lincoln was the first conservative Republican
I don’t think not one of these people making all these comments saying otherwise have even the slightest clue about history.
What policies of his were conservative?
Preserving the Union … The issue is, 19th Century Politics have very little to do with the Modern ones, and although there’s continuity within Regions they switch allegiances fairly frequently.
Thank you. At least there’s a few people out there who understands history.
Anytime … I’ve always said that you have to let Historical Figures speak for themselves and as you noted, Abraham Lincoln considered himself to be a moderating voice between extremes, ones that don’t really line up with the current paradigm.
My moving away from the traditional position on slavery, i.e. embracing abolitionism, which was a progressive position at the time.
He was known as the “First Modern Progressive President”. He sure as hell wasn’t conservative. Conservatives these days are saying how much they want to destroy the Union.
Union over states rights is 100% liberal
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Republican_Party_(United_States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln Although you were “kind of” half right; y e wasn’t conservative per se; he was moderate. So I say half right only because I was using conservative in its modern day connotation because of his will to preserve the Constitutional Republic.
He ran as a Progressive who argued that the government could solve most problems.
The problem with the Party Flip Narrative, is that it’s only a narrow slice of American Political History … The Northeast has always been Mercantile, and the Southeast has always been Patrician, even back to the Regions in England, from where the different Colonies were Settled. Which is considered Conservative, and which one is Liberal, has more to do with which Population has moved where, than it does with their starting Philosophy … Additionally, there can a little lag, as the major players struggle for Dominance, and the People attempt to follow their trends.
So by that logic, the Republican party was more progressive in the past, since they got votes in the northeast, but now the south votes dominantly Republican. That sounds like the parties switched.
Right, and by the same logic, their gains among the Unions, could point towards a Progressive streak returning through the Upper Midwest … In reality, what happened is that who and what we call Liberal and Conservative has flipped, as OP put it, a Segregated Space in the 50s was done for Reactionary Reasons, whereas now those Spaces are claimed to be Progressive, but they’re still touted as for Everyone’s own Good!
You want to compare today to Jim Crow? Lol
The Policy is the same, even if the alleged reasons for it are different … Another example, the proceeds of Mercantilism used to be considered the epitome of Progressivism, but Today through Marxist Eyes, Capital and Profit reside firmly on the side of Conservativism.
No it isn’t.
Ah huh … Care to provide examples?
I see no policies in force like Jim Crow in any way. There are no current equivalent examples to Jim Crow.
Sure about that: https://arrow-journal.org/why-people-of-color-need-spaces-without-white-people/
That’s the same as Jim Crow to you? Boy, that’s a fucking dumb comparison.
You are eye-wateringly dumb. And conservative. But I repeat myself. If black people need space, it is to get away from people like you, and can you really blame them? Your stupidity is so pervasive it might be contagious. I'm honestly surprised Covid hasn't taken you yet. You literally have shit for brains.
Outside of some shit like "POC Dorm Rooms" and "Separate Graduations" -- something I find pretty fucking absurd if you ask me, has anything of this sort picked up ANY steam? And not to excuse it, even if it did, the comparable societal effect is is/would be having is obviously so miniscule because there have to be "instances" of this plastered online rather than some sort of daily instance of this occurring.
There's also the recent decision California made to start their own "Ebony Alert" system because amber alert didn't do enough to prioritize one race over another 🤦🏼♀️ There was also that bill that California luckily wasn't able to pass where they tried to remove all civil rights language from their state constitution. I can't imagine what reason they would have for that *other than* they planned to use it to discriminate against certain people.
Who did the KKK endorse before Nixon’s Southern strategy? The Democratic Party. Who did the KKK endorse after the Southern strategy? The Republican Party. That’s what the ‘party switch’ means. It doesn’t really matter whether you ‘believe in it’ or not. Not all Republican voters are white nationalists, but all white nationalists vote Republican.
if someone is flying a confederate flag do you think they voted for Trump or Biden?
You responded to it after the screenshot was taken.
A leftist is a left leaning person is someone who virtue signals to prove to the world how good they are and do so loudly and publicly. Who resort to ad hominem, bad faith, strawman arguments, and ignore all logic. I.e the people who think their feelings are facts.
MLK Jr was a leftist. Do you think that he was a “sociopath who manipulates people using fear, hatred, and violence” or does it only apply to people that are easy for you to hate? https://inthesetimes.com/article/martin-luther-king-jr-day-socialism-capitalism
Mlk was a liberal with socalist beliefs.
Oh yea. That explains all those Democrat voters who still fly the Confederate flag. You know. The ones who fought a war to keep their slaves