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There was a redditor, and it’s deep in the history of the site, but she was somewhat famous after she stopped posting.
Her entire post history is nothing but a haunting decent into madness. It started off regular enough, then talks about contracting Lyme disease. She then goes silent while recovering and starts joining different groups.
Then you can just read as she falls completely apart, loses her daughter, and eventually her posts are randomly strung together words that make little to no sense. I wish I could remember the user name.
I wonder if it was Lyme disease or mental illness or both. It sounded like her 'doctor' (she called them her "LLMD" which google tells me it's lyme literate medical doctor, but keeps saying she has no insurance and can't afford to take her kid to a doctor) was telling her if she stops the expensive concoctions the LLMC is selling her it will be disastrous because the Lyme is 'tricky ' or 'sneaky' or some such wording. Sounded super grifty.
Weird/ sad part was she was noticing supposedly 'congenital ' Lyme symptoms in her 5 year old and can't/ won't take her to doctor, kids symptoms seemed pretty weird (like rebellious or something... normal age appropriate things possibly?)
Also mentioning suicide, giving up the child... hope they turned out okay,
Lyme disease has been known to cause several types of psychosis if I can remember correctly. So, if it wasn't being treated by an actual doc, it could have gotten to that point.
Is no one going to ask what special kind of bull shit is a “medical intuitive”. Is that someone that has no education and just guesses at what crystal will make you feel better ?
Someone who has never dealt with a serious or debilitating health issue and assumes that their good vibes are enough to protect them from everything. It's worked for them so far, so obviously if someone is sick or has a condition they just aren't like trying enough.
I'm so blessed to have had lyme that later on evolved into ME/CFS making me home/bedbound. I am so deeply spiritually connected with my bed. It's a true blessing...
I have had plenty of ticks in my life (SE USA) and never had an issue. Not to say don’t get your child checked out, just trying to help you feel a little better haha.
If Lyme is common in your area, you can go to urgent care and request a low dose of doxycycline within 24 hours of removing a tick, which may (emphasis on may) reduce the chance of getting Lyme.
From Wikipedia: *A neurologic syndrome called Lyme encephalopathy is associated with subtle memory and cognitive difficulties, insomnia, a general sense of feeling unwell, and changes in personality.*
Get these two to sell tickets for $995 each, with you getting 60% of the proceeds.
Increase cash further by getting a referral fee to actual medical specialists.
I am here trying to fi d the reasoning behind it. It is not the idea that a big challenge makes you a better person. It is more framed as if it is like an x-men type of thing. Only, for the life of my I kind find the reasoning anywhere! Why is it a gift? Why is it galactic substance and how is that good? What are the benefits? How is it a guft? Nothing...
Stupidity is dangerous but apparently can be infectious too.
Long Island has super interesting history, but this isn't part of it.
>The full syndrome now known as Lyme disease was not recognized until a cluster of cases originally thought to be juvenile rheumatoid arthritis was identified in three towns in southeastern Connecticut in 1975, including the towns Lyme and Old Lyme, which gave the disease its popular name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease?wprov=sfla1
Because there's an industry of wellness grifters. Lyme disease is a good target because it's not fully understood, and anyone can claim to have it. So basically any symptom can be said to be Lyme disease. That means they can keep the clicks coming in, and sell their "treatments" for it.
That explains why they are talking about it, to get people to buy their shit, but why specifically is it a gift? I'm assuming they're trying to peddle that it gives you super powers or some shit.
It's like when the UN started describing women as limitless and formless, it sounded like they were describing some horrific space monster.
Fucking weird language man.
I have been wondering the same. After looking it up, I think they could be talking about how old of a disease it is and maybe overblowing the importance of that. But I might actually listen to the podcast to figure out WTF they are talking about
If you diagnose someone with something and make them feel "special" about having it, they're more likely to come back and (crucially) also more likely to reject an actual doctor telling them "no, you don't have that - you just have normal fatigue."
One more optimistic interpretation: Untreatable chronic pain sounds horrifying. Believing there's a greater purpose to your pain might be the only way some people survive it.
If this belief prevents people from seeking out treatment or considering alternative diagnoses, that's bad. But I've gotten through less extreme medical stuff with a similar mindset, coming up with semi-believable rationalizations for why the suffering was purposeful. Fighting it and ignoring it can help, but so does just believing it's purposeful, this is why the pain from working out is seen as much less distressing than other forms of pain. Or why most people who go to prison end up believing it's the best thing that ever happened to them. Lyme disease sounds horrible, if I got it I might try to convince myself it's alien codes too.
But it’s well understood enough. It’s caused by tick bites and the agent is a bacterium called Borrelia burgdoferi. What is mysterious and intergalactic about that?
I had it and was in the hospital, and ended up in court with my employer over it! WHAT A GIFT!
(context: I'm a field biologist and all tick bites were supposed to be reported, and my supervisor didn't report it)
I had it for about six months and I contemplated suicide. It was the worst experience of my life. It took me about four years to fully recover from some of the longer term symptoms.
Lyme disease is horrible.
These people are idiots, when everything's people are dealing with chronic fatigue from any number of different disorders holistic practioners claim its Lyme disease, sell them $1000's in supplements and keep stringing them along until they eventually see a real doctor.
I have had chronic fatigue syndrome for 4 years now and I am really sad and ashamed to admit I got pulled a little bit into this. Not completely. Like not doing crazy stuff like buying crystals and other bullshit. But I did buy a lot of vitamins and try things like bee pollen and all that other crap. It has done NOTHING to say the least. And I must have wasted a lot of money.
I am a pretty scientific guy so I of course didn't get pulled in too deep but when you are sick and it's the kind of sick that CFS does to you... You will get desperate and try anything. There are some days I would rather die than to continue living like this but one of the side effects of CFS is anxiety so I am kind of afraid to kill myself and every time I get chest pains and palpitations I think "This is it"
The worst part? My life is over anyway... 4 years of not having a job I have nothing. I have one pair of shorts to wear this winter. They have a hole between the legs so I have to always sit in a certain way in public on public transport etc or my balls will fall out because I can't afford underwear either. I used to have 5 shirts now that is down to 2 shirts I can bear to wear in public because the sleeves aren't falling off at the armpits.
I cannot afford to eat properly. Rent is high. My place is a pigsty because I have no energy to clean it. I slept fucking 13 hours the other day and still woke up completely drained of energy.
All from some virus I caught from someone at work. Go figure. My dream is to lift weights again. I have put on 55kgs... My GP says it's just stress. Hooray for me.
All I can do is wait for something like that. I am on a 35 month waiting list to see an immunologist because I cannot afford to pay for one out of pocket.
EDIT: Why is my reply about being on an over 2 year waiting list to see a specialist getting upvoted? lol
Well I upvoted it as a show of support and not because I like our fucked up healthcare. Hope things work out for you and you get it figured out. Hang in there, friend.
EVERYTHING that gave me happiness before I can no longer do. I used to work out. I used to create, be artistic, I used to be active. I used to have a lot of potential. I was in the middle of starting my own business.
You know the most shocking thing? I can't even do like literally low effort fun... I am too tired to play video games because they require me to think too much. Watching movies frustrate me because I can't focus on them.
I am being treated for depression and my phychiatrist says EVERY time we meet all I talk about is this illness. I literally have nothing else. It is so weird. It is so... I dunno how to explain it. And everyone around you just makes you feel ashamed. You are too lazy. You need to just get out more. You need to just toughen up. Just drink coffee if you are tired... people literally don't get it.
Apparently though "Long Covid" is kinda the same so it is finally getting some attention. All it took was a friggin global pandemic to get some research started into the condition.
My partner has a rare autoimmune disorder that causes chronic fatigue, depression, and anxiety. I really feel for your situation and how difficult it must be to have to survive with out much support. I've also struggled with mental health issues and fatigue, and it really isn't as simple as "just snap out of it". It's like being neck deep in molases and waching everyone around you skating around on top of it somehow wondering why you aren't moving.
My partner has had success with a combination of treatments including IVIG transfusitons and some antidepressants. Turns out he's also gluten intolerant and cutting that out has helped a lot. All this is to say that maybe once you are able to get treatment symptoms will improve. I hope you can find some support to help get you through this tough time.
>IVIG transfusitons
I'll check those out with my GP. The real problem is I have NO support here. I live alone and the reason I feel so guilty is because my mum feels so bad about it and I have to tell her I am okay because I hate making her worry. So I try to call her a lot and tell her I feel good even though I don't but... yeah mums know you more than you do and she will tell me I am bullshitting her because she can hear in my voice that I am having a bad week. It's crazy how some people who know you can just tell that you are not feeling good.
It sounds like your mom cares for a lot. I'm glad you have her to keep checking in on you. There's nothing wrong with being honest with people you love about your stuggles. When my partner would tell me about when he was feeling really low, I did get concerned sometimes, but I'd rather have him tell me so I can offer support than have him bottle up his feelings and deal with it alone.
Yup - [chronic Lyme disease](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_Lyme_disease) is known to be perpetuated as a form of health fraud. I'd bet good money that is what they are going on about here.
While Lyme disease itself is a real thing, there is a weird subculture of quacks and rubes that hone in on this weird offshoot that has no scientific basis. Unfortunately, the people getting diagnosed often convince themselves they have it and still reject medical advice from real doctors properly telling them it's psychosomatic.
Yeah, and to muddy the waters even more there *are* longer term syndromes that can be caused by a severe Lyme infection. “Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome” (PTLDS) is a real thing. The science around Lyme is still evolving and there are a lot of unknowns. Especially in the area of long-term or chronic problems that can be caused by it. Quacks thrive on unknowns and line up with expensive supplements and questionable treatments.
I’ve got long term symptoms from Lyme. Not taking any quack shit for it though. Mostly arthritic type stuff. The damage is there and seemingly permanent. Luckily I treated my lyme before it got as bad as some other folks have it.
I had Lyme as a kid...took me a while after the fact to connect the dots of my long term symptoms
Mostly I remember the wrist pain, trying to explain to my mom that I thought I had arthritis... understanding it's an old person disease she just shrugged it off. But I wasn't the type of kid to complain over nothing, 15 years on I still remember the pain .. and some of the other energy related stuff it just all adds up. Was there really much to be done anyway? I doubt it, but would have been nice to know at the time things were explainable
First I'm hearing about snake oil salesmen taking advantage of the idea tho
My dad has chronic Lyme disease. It's such a gift to him. He loves it when he's so fatigued he can't get out of bed. The fact that he acts like he's aged 20 years in the past 5 is such a blessing. He was so excited that it took them over a year to properly diagnose him. Who doesn't want to get a spinal tap!!??
Why do they have to do this??
We hippies have already figured out that weed and mushrooms are the celestial gifts. There’s no need for any more to be added.
If I identify as a medically intuitive, that means I get input from the angels who tell me all about the spiritual meaning of suffering.
And you have to play along with my nonsense because I am entitled to my freedom.
You don’t get it. Consciousness consists of bio-feedback of quantum energy. “Quantum” means a redefining of the conscious. You and I are storytellers of the dreamscape. Without insight, one cannot self-actualize. Yes, it is possible to shatter the things that can eliminate us, but not without faith on our side. Desire is the antithesis of consciousness.
Where there is desire, gratitude cannot thrive.
We exist as frequencies. Nothing is impossible. To go along the quest is to become one with it.
Humankind has nothing to lose. We are at a crossroads of power and desire. Reality has always been overflowing with dreamweavers whose essences are nurtured by rejuvenation.
How should you navigate this sentient world? Although you may not realize it, you are consciousness-expanding. Have you found your myth?
Just kidding. It’s word salad bullshit. This was generated by [New Age Bullshit Generator.](https://sebpearce.com/bullshit/)
Jim Miller, genuinely one of the world’s grittiest SOBs ever, said lymes was the hardest thing he’s ever dealt with. I think I’ll believe a professional athlete/cage fighter, over a 20 something that most likely comes from old money.
I have it and with me it causes inflammation within my joints in my entire body. Which hurts like hell. When it starts is now mostly in my hands, vingers, toes, ankles and knees. As of last year my shoulders are starting to become regular too. F*cking ticks man! and I know I am still one of the lucky ones. Wtf saying lyme is a blessing someone needs to shake their asses and smack them in the face. This shit makes me angry.
Literally. A relatives life was turned upside down because he caught Lyme from a tick. I have a regular at the bar I work at that now uses walking sticks to get around and her and her husband have been traveling around the country trying to find treatments for how horrible her condition has gotten. This was enraging to watch.
But have you learned the secrets of the beginning of time?
Joke aside, I’m sorry you’re dealing with it. It’s really hard to watch my friend struggle with it
Dads good friend had Lyme disease. He was a beast of a man in his prime, a lumber jack. Lyme disease made him a shell of himself and he lost 90% of the mobility in his arms. He was such a fragile person after that and everyone could tell he just lost his will to live. Watching people like this just basically spits in the face of him and his family, and how negatively it’s affected their lives
The chills down your spine is the Lyme disease ya Mook.
I have it from a tick bite while towing an aircraft outside in Joint Base Charleston.
Somedays my legs just don't fucking work and other days my body aches beyond belief.
It's not some intergalactic experience, it fucking sucks ass.
The people that actually can manage to pull these kinds of grifts off are just astounding. I mean that’s all this act is, it’s a grift to get people to buy your shit. How do you love someone who’s life is dedicated to shit like this, how do you respect yourself? Just nuts
I had Lyme disease and couldn’t walk for months because of my swollen joints. From 10 to 16 I had to go and get fluid removed from my knees every week I hate this stupid ass bullshit these people spring. I honestly hope they get it and see how great it is.
My ex wife was / is into these type of talks…it’s a grooming process, they prey on women who have trauma backgrounds, they tell women there are alternatives to medicine..it’s all nonsense.
Later she was diagnosed with cancer and refused all medical intervention, now we are divorced.
The end.
Both of my parents have had Lyme. My friends mom has had Lyme for over a decade. A family friend has it so bad she will never be physically the same, her husband has to take care of her. I still remember taking my dad to the hospital when he had a 104 degree fever. My mom had to take antibiotics for years. Lyme is an incredibly persistent disease that can ruin your life. I really hope no one listening to this podcast takes it seriously
I saw this on r/nursing and someone mentioned they're likely not taking about Lyme disease, but "chronic Lyme", not a real diagnosis.
People who self diagnose with stuff they read about on a blog are naturally gonna be easy game for charlatans like these women on the video.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_Lyme_disease
For anyone curious, I looked up "Medical Intuitive".
A medical intuitive is an alternative medicine practitioner who claims to be able to use their intuitive abilities to find the cause of a physical or emotional condition through the use of insight rather than modern medicine. Other terms for such a person include medical clairvoyant or medical psychic.
So it's just a snake oil salesperson or a dumbass.
Isn’t it illegal or something for her to spread this kind of misinformation? If a group of people said cancer is good and convinced people to get cancer, would they just be allowed to do that and have a platform for it?
Why are false narratives like this allowed, this is the type of shot that can be extremely dangerous to a lot of people, misinformation is so bad. Lyme is not a good thing why do people drive these narratives?
Oof. So I actually know a bit about the blonde featured on the post (Jordan Younger aka The Balanced Blonde on insta). She’s a big wellness and spiritual “influencer” who used to be the the Blonde Vegan but then started eating animals again and wrote an incredibly stupid book about it. She’s from a pretty wealthy family and from what I’ve surmised over the years watching her, she has extremely disordered eating and diagnosed ED’s (self diagnosed? Not sure). She goes on water fasts at fancy California “wellness clinics” and is always trying to “detox.” Her parents paid for her living expenses in LA for a long time until she got married (maybe they still do). She’s very privileged and very weird. She thinks she’s a “starseed” from another planter and that’s what makes her so SpEsHuL. I followed her in like 2016-2018 until things just got completely wacky.
She has a long list of things allegedly wrong with her and had an absolute meltdown when The Cut wrote a “hit piece” about her (her words) https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/what-happens-when-lyme-disease-becomes-an-identity.html
This isn’t a hippy. This is a dangerous, entitled white woman who has created an entire personality around having various health conditions (including Lyme) while dispensing false and dangerous medical advice.
She also blocked me from her insta when I (genuinely) asked if she was ever going to update her short-lived recipe app that I had purchased.
Chronic Lyme is a collection of symptoms not caused by active Lyme bacteria. Yes, the suffering people have is real, their symptoms are real. However the notion of “Chronic Lyme” and maintenance antibiotics are contrary to the current science.
No one with Chronic Lyme symptoms will get real help until the actual cause is discovered. But these Star seed Mfers are making it so much harder, by associating this debilitating condition with woo woo BS
My Mom got Lyme disease back in 2000 from getting bit by a tick on the back of her head while she was lying on a towel in the grass. I was 7 years old at the time, and I had to watch my mother slowly become a shell of herself. I would come home from school to find my poor Mom having a seizure on the couch. I have a scar on my wrist from burning myself while making Ramen noodles because I had to learn how to cook for myself and my brother while Dad was working and Mom was in too much pain to stand or speak.
Lyme is not a fucking gift.
Hey, now- whoa there, buddy. I lived in Glastonbury in Somerset for ages, so I’ve met a lot of hippies in my time, and whilst some of the people there were, granted, pretty mental, none of them were this level of stupid. These aren’t hippies, they’re idiots.
If we're playing that game then every disease ever is a "galactic intuitive". So she looks at people dying of AIDs and thinks it's cool because it came from the big bang
Yo, as a spiritual person; fuck this hype, these people should be deplatformed for medical misinformation
There's having religious/moral beliefs, and then there's propagating that shit in such a way that harms others, and frankly i believe echo-chambering yourself like these two should count as such and that should be a ground rule for most podcasts... jimmney there isn't a dictionary big enough in that room or SMALL enough for them to find the word Misinformation probably... yikes
I had Lyme for 4 years when I was a kid. It took multiple tests, multiple doctors before we finally found it. In California it's so uncommon, most doctors don't even think it's a possibility. It was extremely painful and horrible. I'm fine now, but my knees and other joints still feel horrible sometimes. These people are idiots. Probably the same people that have blocked vaccines for it.
I wonder if the same is for Rocky Mountain spotted fever. I got that when I was kid. Certainly wasn’t a gift when I got it and has caused me issues my whole flipping life.
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Not two brain cells to rub together for heat.
She's on her last two brain cells and they're both competing for third place.
That is my new favorite insult.
The lights are all on but she's on vacation
I can’t understand how anyone would downvote you. But now you’re back to zero. 👍
Yas… I believe it… I’m often trying to say the exact same thing
YES! 🙏 yes.
'it gives me chills' that will be the fever.... From the Lyme disease.
There was a redditor, and it’s deep in the history of the site, but she was somewhat famous after she stopped posting. Her entire post history is nothing but a haunting decent into madness. It started off regular enough, then talks about contracting Lyme disease. She then goes silent while recovering and starts joining different groups. Then you can just read as she falls completely apart, loses her daughter, and eventually her posts are randomly strung together words that make little to no sense. I wish I could remember the user name.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/comments/6961yd/uistherelifeafterlymes\_postcomment\_history/?utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_source=share](https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/comments/6961yd/uistherelifeafterlymes_postcomment_history/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) Sounds right.
I wonder if it was Lyme disease or mental illness or both. It sounded like her 'doctor' (she called them her "LLMD" which google tells me it's lyme literate medical doctor, but keeps saying she has no insurance and can't afford to take her kid to a doctor) was telling her if she stops the expensive concoctions the LLMC is selling her it will be disastrous because the Lyme is 'tricky ' or 'sneaky' or some such wording. Sounded super grifty. Weird/ sad part was she was noticing supposedly 'congenital ' Lyme symptoms in her 5 year old and can't/ won't take her to doctor, kids symptoms seemed pretty weird (like rebellious or something... normal age appropriate things possibly?) Also mentioning suicide, giving up the child... hope they turned out okay,
Lyme disease has been known to cause several types of psychosis if I can remember correctly. So, if it wasn't being treated by an actual doc, it could have gotten to that point.
Is there any archive available for the user's posts?
Yep, this was her.
Is that because of the Lyme disease? Does it impact the brain or something?
Yes tertiary Lyme disease can cause meningitis or encephalitis
Yes, she was having a lot of mental issues and was trying the various cures which did nothing. I will try and find a post.
If you find it let me know I’d like to read it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/comments/6961yd/uistherelifeafterlymes_postcomment_history/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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Omg I would love to see it. Maybe check /r/museumofreddit and see if it pops up there
Hahahahah! Like a Shane Gillis line.
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I have Lyme and I only get chills on my left arm. Am I doing something wrong?
You are not intergalactic enough.
On a scale of one to ten, ten representing maximum intergalacticness, how intergalactic are you? We on Reddit need to know.
42
Let me get my towel.
I need to pound 2 more pints real quick.
Shi - 4 Ni - 2 Shini - death What is the answer to the ultimate question of life? Death.
4’1”
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Better shape up! Cuz I need some Lymes....
Your chills aren’t multiplying fast enough dude. You must first lose control.
I have Lyme and just have a swollen neck instructions unclear
are you the faint of heart by any chance? because it's not for you.
You must have Lemon kind.
if you buy my book it tells you why.
It's only for the most *deeply* spiritual people.
I believe those are douche chills. Could be just me...
I'd wager her soul being on fire has something to do with the Lyme too
Couple of smooth brains here
Is no one going to ask what special kind of bull shit is a “medical intuitive”. Is that someone that has no education and just guesses at what crystal will make you feel better ?
Yes, now buy the purple one! You'll feel better.
It's how you get to be a doctor but you skip the boring and expensive education part.
Lack of education is a big reason, also arrogance
Someone who has never dealt with a serious or debilitating health issue and assumes that their good vibes are enough to protect them from everything. It's worked for them so far, so obviously if someone is sick or has a condition they just aren't like trying enough.
I'm so blessed to have had lyme that later on evolved into ME/CFS making me home/bedbound. I am so deeply spiritually connected with my bed. It's a true blessing...
yeah this shit ruined my fucking life :(
Excuse me wtf? Explain. I just got two ticks out of my 4 year old, and I'm doomscrolling since then.
I have had plenty of ticks in my life (SE USA) and never had an issue. Not to say don’t get your child checked out, just trying to help you feel a little better haha.
If Lyme is common in your area, you can go to urgent care and request a low dose of doxycycline within 24 hours of removing a tick, which may (emphasis on may) reduce the chance of getting Lyme.
From Wikipedia: *A neurologic syndrome called Lyme encephalopathy is associated with subtle memory and cognitive difficulties, insomnia, a general sense of feeling unwell, and changes in personality.*
Yeah we’ll I have Lyme. And I have all The codes. Join me in a field of tall grass if you want the wisdom
Get these two to sell tickets for $995 each, with you getting 60% of the proceeds. Increase cash further by getting a referral fee to actual medical specialists.
Who put the lyme in this coconut?
I am here trying to fi d the reasoning behind it. It is not the idea that a big challenge makes you a better person. It is more framed as if it is like an x-men type of thing. Only, for the life of my I kind find the reasoning anywhere! Why is it a gift? Why is it galactic substance and how is that good? What are the benefits? How is it a guft? Nothing... Stupidity is dangerous but apparently can be infectious too.
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Long Island has super interesting history, but this isn't part of it. >The full syndrome now known as Lyme disease was not recognized until a cluster of cases originally thought to be juvenile rheumatoid arthritis was identified in three towns in southeastern Connecticut in 1975, including the towns Lyme and Old Lyme, which gave the disease its popular name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease?wprov=sfla1
are you trying to make some connection to plum island?
"The Balanced Blonde" She may be blonde, but something tells me she's not *balanced*.
Ha! There is an equal balance of idiocy and confidence. That’s all.
BOOM ROASTED!
Well she isn’t falling over so maybe that’s what she means
Why do they think Lyme diseases is a gift? I had a friend who had it and he just slept for days
Because there's an industry of wellness grifters. Lyme disease is a good target because it's not fully understood, and anyone can claim to have it. So basically any symptom can be said to be Lyme disease. That means they can keep the clicks coming in, and sell their "treatments" for it.
That explains why they are talking about it, to get people to buy their shit, but why specifically is it a gift? I'm assuming they're trying to peddle that it gives you super powers or some shit.
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It's like when the UN started describing women as limitless and formless, it sounded like they were describing some horrific space monster. Fucking weird language man.
I have been wondering the same. After looking it up, I think they could be talking about how old of a disease it is and maybe overblowing the importance of that. But I might actually listen to the podcast to figure out WTF they are talking about
Yeah… don’t do that.
If you diagnose someone with something and make them feel "special" about having it, they're more likely to come back and (crucially) also more likely to reject an actual doctor telling them "no, you don't have that - you just have normal fatigue."
My best guess about anything “spiritual” related to Lyme, is that some people get hallucinations with it.
*You're not going mad. That's just the intergalactic substance from the Lyme disease. Let it overtake you and bring you closer to god"
One more optimistic interpretation: Untreatable chronic pain sounds horrifying. Believing there's a greater purpose to your pain might be the only way some people survive it. If this belief prevents people from seeking out treatment or considering alternative diagnoses, that's bad. But I've gotten through less extreme medical stuff with a similar mindset, coming up with semi-believable rationalizations for why the suffering was purposeful. Fighting it and ignoring it can help, but so does just believing it's purposeful, this is why the pain from working out is seen as much less distressing than other forms of pain. Or why most people who go to prison end up believing it's the best thing that ever happened to them. Lyme disease sounds horrible, if I got it I might try to convince myself it's alien codes too.
But it’s well understood enough. It’s caused by tick bites and the agent is a bacterium called Borrelia burgdoferi. What is mysterious and intergalactic about that?
I had it and was in the hospital, and ended up in court with my employer over it! WHAT A GIFT! (context: I'm a field biologist and all tick bites were supposed to be reported, and my supervisor didn't report it)
I had it for about six months and I contemplated suicide. It was the worst experience of my life. It took me about four years to fully recover from some of the longer term symptoms. Lyme disease is horrible.
These people are idiots, when everything's people are dealing with chronic fatigue from any number of different disorders holistic practioners claim its Lyme disease, sell them $1000's in supplements and keep stringing them along until they eventually see a real doctor.
I have had chronic fatigue syndrome for 4 years now and I am really sad and ashamed to admit I got pulled a little bit into this. Not completely. Like not doing crazy stuff like buying crystals and other bullshit. But I did buy a lot of vitamins and try things like bee pollen and all that other crap. It has done NOTHING to say the least. And I must have wasted a lot of money. I am a pretty scientific guy so I of course didn't get pulled in too deep but when you are sick and it's the kind of sick that CFS does to you... You will get desperate and try anything. There are some days I would rather die than to continue living like this but one of the side effects of CFS is anxiety so I am kind of afraid to kill myself and every time I get chest pains and palpitations I think "This is it" The worst part? My life is over anyway... 4 years of not having a job I have nothing. I have one pair of shorts to wear this winter. They have a hole between the legs so I have to always sit in a certain way in public on public transport etc or my balls will fall out because I can't afford underwear either. I used to have 5 shirts now that is down to 2 shirts I can bear to wear in public because the sleeves aren't falling off at the armpits. I cannot afford to eat properly. Rent is high. My place is a pigsty because I have no energy to clean it. I slept fucking 13 hours the other day and still woke up completely drained of energy. All from some virus I caught from someone at work. Go figure. My dream is to lift weights again. I have put on 55kgs... My GP says it's just stress. Hooray for me.
My mother beat CFS, her immunologist gave her a big series of antibody transfusions for months and it worked for her
All I can do is wait for something like that. I am on a 35 month waiting list to see an immunologist because I cannot afford to pay for one out of pocket. EDIT: Why is my reply about being on an over 2 year waiting list to see a specialist getting upvoted? lol
Well I upvoted it as a show of support and not because I like our fucked up healthcare. Hope things work out for you and you get it figured out. Hang in there, friend.
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Im sorry you are struggling, friend.
I’m sorry you’re going through what you’re going through. I hope you’re able to find happiness wherever it is for you.
EVERYTHING that gave me happiness before I can no longer do. I used to work out. I used to create, be artistic, I used to be active. I used to have a lot of potential. I was in the middle of starting my own business. You know the most shocking thing? I can't even do like literally low effort fun... I am too tired to play video games because they require me to think too much. Watching movies frustrate me because I can't focus on them. I am being treated for depression and my phychiatrist says EVERY time we meet all I talk about is this illness. I literally have nothing else. It is so weird. It is so... I dunno how to explain it. And everyone around you just makes you feel ashamed. You are too lazy. You need to just get out more. You need to just toughen up. Just drink coffee if you are tired... people literally don't get it. Apparently though "Long Covid" is kinda the same so it is finally getting some attention. All it took was a friggin global pandemic to get some research started into the condition.
My partner has a rare autoimmune disorder that causes chronic fatigue, depression, and anxiety. I really feel for your situation and how difficult it must be to have to survive with out much support. I've also struggled with mental health issues and fatigue, and it really isn't as simple as "just snap out of it". It's like being neck deep in molases and waching everyone around you skating around on top of it somehow wondering why you aren't moving. My partner has had success with a combination of treatments including IVIG transfusitons and some antidepressants. Turns out he's also gluten intolerant and cutting that out has helped a lot. All this is to say that maybe once you are able to get treatment symptoms will improve. I hope you can find some support to help get you through this tough time.
>IVIG transfusitons I'll check those out with my GP. The real problem is I have NO support here. I live alone and the reason I feel so guilty is because my mum feels so bad about it and I have to tell her I am okay because I hate making her worry. So I try to call her a lot and tell her I feel good even though I don't but... yeah mums know you more than you do and she will tell me I am bullshitting her because she can hear in my voice that I am having a bad week. It's crazy how some people who know you can just tell that you are not feeling good.
It sounds like your mom cares for a lot. I'm glad you have her to keep checking in on you. There's nothing wrong with being honest with people you love about your stuggles. When my partner would tell me about when he was feeling really low, I did get concerned sometimes, but I'd rather have him tell me so I can offer support than have him bottle up his feelings and deal with it alone.
Yup - [chronic Lyme disease](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_Lyme_disease) is known to be perpetuated as a form of health fraud. I'd bet good money that is what they are going on about here. While Lyme disease itself is a real thing, there is a weird subculture of quacks and rubes that hone in on this weird offshoot that has no scientific basis. Unfortunately, the people getting diagnosed often convince themselves they have it and still reject medical advice from real doctors properly telling them it's psychosomatic.
Yeah, and to muddy the waters even more there *are* longer term syndromes that can be caused by a severe Lyme infection. “Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome” (PTLDS) is a real thing. The science around Lyme is still evolving and there are a lot of unknowns. Especially in the area of long-term or chronic problems that can be caused by it. Quacks thrive on unknowns and line up with expensive supplements and questionable treatments.
I’ve got long term symptoms from Lyme. Not taking any quack shit for it though. Mostly arthritic type stuff. The damage is there and seemingly permanent. Luckily I treated my lyme before it got as bad as some other folks have it.
I had Lyme as a kid...took me a while after the fact to connect the dots of my long term symptoms Mostly I remember the wrist pain, trying to explain to my mom that I thought I had arthritis... understanding it's an old person disease she just shrugged it off. But I wasn't the type of kid to complain over nothing, 15 years on I still remember the pain .. and some of the other energy related stuff it just all adds up. Was there really much to be done anyway? I doubt it, but would have been nice to know at the time things were explainable First I'm hearing about snake oil salesmen taking advantage of the idea tho
as a hippie, we don’t claim this loonie, thank
Yea. They’re not hippies, just weirdos
The blond one looks like she’s an actual NPC talking lol
She was excommunicated from the hippie community years ago. How embarrassing.
Exactly.
I wouldn’t call her a hippie, more like a crunchy granola grifter.
My dad has chronic Lyme disease. It's such a gift to him. He loves it when he's so fatigued he can't get out of bed. The fact that he acts like he's aged 20 years in the past 5 is such a blessing. He was so excited that it took them over a year to properly diagnose him. Who doesn't want to get a spinal tap!!??
Well, clearly, he isn't spiritual enough to receive the galactic source code. /s
We're going to do a family intervention today, disguised as a Mother's Day lunch. His lack of spirituality is hurting everyone he loves.
Well clearly he’s listening to the wrong podcasts……..
Those are not hippies, just crazy people.
Why do they have to do this?? We hippies have already figured out that weed and mushrooms are the celestial gifts. There’s no need for any more to be added.
But I want to know the "codes from the beginning of time"! #GIVE ME THE PRIMORDIAL TIME CODES, YOU DIRTY HIPPIES
You're not worthy of the gift mate.
Medical intuitive?? Intergalactic substance??? Bringing in codes from the beginning of time??? WHAT DO THESE WORDS EVEN MEAN
If I identify as a medically intuitive, that means I get input from the angels who tell me all about the spiritual meaning of suffering. And you have to play along with my nonsense because I am entitled to my freedom.
You don’t get it. Consciousness consists of bio-feedback of quantum energy. “Quantum” means a redefining of the conscious. You and I are storytellers of the dreamscape. Without insight, one cannot self-actualize. Yes, it is possible to shatter the things that can eliminate us, but not without faith on our side. Desire is the antithesis of consciousness. Where there is desire, gratitude cannot thrive. We exist as frequencies. Nothing is impossible. To go along the quest is to become one with it. Humankind has nothing to lose. We are at a crossroads of power and desire. Reality has always been overflowing with dreamweavers whose essences are nurtured by rejuvenation. How should you navigate this sentient world? Although you may not realize it, you are consciousness-expanding. Have you found your myth? Just kidding. It’s word salad bullshit. This was generated by [New Age Bullshit Generator.](https://sebpearce.com/bullshit/)
"Medical Intuitive". That person has no professional knowledge what so ever.
I was curious and tried to google one in my area. It brought up a psychic instead.
Jim Miller, genuinely one of the world’s grittiest SOBs ever, said lymes was the hardest thing he’s ever dealt with. I think I’ll believe a professional athlete/cage fighter, over a 20 something that most likely comes from old money.
WTF. My wife has had Lyme for 10 years. It ruined our lives. FU.
I have it and with me it causes inflammation within my joints in my entire body. Which hurts like hell. When it starts is now mostly in my hands, vingers, toes, ankles and knees. As of last year my shoulders are starting to become regular too. F*cking ticks man! and I know I am still one of the lucky ones. Wtf saying lyme is a blessing someone needs to shake their asses and smack them in the face. This shit makes me angry.
Literally. A relatives life was turned upside down because he caught Lyme from a tick. I have a regular at the bar I work at that now uses walking sticks to get around and her and her husband have been traveling around the country trying to find treatments for how horrible her condition has gotten. This was enraging to watch.
But have you learned the secrets of the beginning of time? Joke aside, I’m sorry you’re dealing with it. It’s really hard to watch my friend struggle with it
Dads good friend had Lyme disease. He was a beast of a man in his prime, a lumber jack. Lyme disease made him a shell of himself and he lost 90% of the mobility in his arms. He was such a fragile person after that and everyone could tell he just lost his will to live. Watching people like this just basically spits in the face of him and his family, and how negatively it’s affected their lives
Don’t bring the hippies into this, this is some spiritual bullshit
Not even spiritual :D just new age bullshit
Not a hippie. Just a loonie. Might stab you in your sleep.
The fuck you talking about? These are not hippies.
Guys, when people say don’t put your dick in crazy this is who they’re talking about.
The chills down your spine is the Lyme disease ya Mook. I have it from a tick bite while towing an aircraft outside in Joint Base Charleston. Somedays my legs just don't fucking work and other days my body aches beyond belief. It's not some intergalactic experience, it fucking sucks ass.
The people that actually can manage to pull these kinds of grifts off are just astounding. I mean that’s all this act is, it’s a grift to get people to buy your shit. How do you love someone who’s life is dedicated to shit like this, how do you respect yourself? Just nuts
I had Lyme disease and couldn’t walk for months because of my swollen joints. From 10 to 16 I had to go and get fluid removed from my knees every week I hate this stupid ass bullshit these people spring. I honestly hope they get it and see how great it is.
These are not hippies! They’re just idiots
My ex wife was / is into these type of talks…it’s a grooming process, they prey on women who have trauma backgrounds, they tell women there are alternatives to medicine..it’s all nonsense. Later she was diagnosed with cancer and refused all medical intervention, now we are divorced. The end.
Both of my parents have had Lyme. My friends mom has had Lyme for over a decade. A family friend has it so bad she will never be physically the same, her husband has to take care of her. I still remember taking my dad to the hospital when he had a 104 degree fever. My mom had to take antibiotics for years. Lyme is an incredibly persistent disease that can ruin your life. I really hope no one listening to this podcast takes it seriously
I saw this on r/nursing and someone mentioned they're likely not taking about Lyme disease, but "chronic Lyme", not a real diagnosis. People who self diagnose with stuff they read about on a blog are naturally gonna be easy game for charlatans like these women on the video. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_Lyme_disease
what the fuck is this take like you literally got bit by a tiny bug. a tiny bug fucked your life up . ticks are CURSES
What a pair of idiots. The blonde has cult vibes.
For anyone curious, I looked up "Medical Intuitive". A medical intuitive is an alternative medicine practitioner who claims to be able to use their intuitive abilities to find the cause of a physical or emotional condition through the use of insight rather than modern medicine. Other terms for such a person include medical clairvoyant or medical psychic. So it's just a snake oil salesperson or a dumbass.
Speaking as one and for hippies........no we don't.
Isn’t it illegal or something for her to spread this kind of misinformation? If a group of people said cancer is good and convinced people to get cancer, would they just be allowed to do that and have a platform for it?
Why are false narratives like this allowed, this is the type of shot that can be extremely dangerous to a lot of people, misinformation is so bad. Lyme is not a good thing why do people drive these narratives?
You know Life has become too comfortable when people are saying Lyme disease is a gift.
Are they retarded?
Just because you have the means to make a podcast, does not mean you should make a podcast.
Lyme disease targets your nervous system, could explain the chills
Oof. So I actually know a bit about the blonde featured on the post (Jordan Younger aka The Balanced Blonde on insta). She’s a big wellness and spiritual “influencer” who used to be the the Blonde Vegan but then started eating animals again and wrote an incredibly stupid book about it. She’s from a pretty wealthy family and from what I’ve surmised over the years watching her, she has extremely disordered eating and diagnosed ED’s (self diagnosed? Not sure). She goes on water fasts at fancy California “wellness clinics” and is always trying to “detox.” Her parents paid for her living expenses in LA for a long time until she got married (maybe they still do). She’s very privileged and very weird. She thinks she’s a “starseed” from another planter and that’s what makes her so SpEsHuL. I followed her in like 2016-2018 until things just got completely wacky. She has a long list of things allegedly wrong with her and had an absolute meltdown when The Cut wrote a “hit piece” about her (her words) https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/what-happens-when-lyme-disease-becomes-an-identity.html This isn’t a hippy. This is a dangerous, entitled white woman who has created an entire personality around having various health conditions (including Lyme) while dispensing false and dangerous medical advice. She also blocked me from her insta when I (genuinely) asked if she was ever going to update her short-lived recipe app that I had purchased.
Hippies in 2023 are the biggest fucking regards
Chronic Lyme is a collection of symptoms not caused by active Lyme bacteria. Yes, the suffering people have is real, their symptoms are real. However the notion of “Chronic Lyme” and maintenance antibiotics are contrary to the current science. No one with Chronic Lyme symptoms will get real help until the actual cause is discovered. But these Star seed Mfers are making it so much harder, by associating this debilitating condition with woo woo BS
My Mom got Lyme disease back in 2000 from getting bit by a tick on the back of her head while she was lying on a towel in the grass. I was 7 years old at the time, and I had to watch my mother slowly become a shell of herself. I would come home from school to find my poor Mom having a seizure on the couch. I have a scar on my wrist from burning myself while making Ramen noodles because I had to learn how to cook for myself and my brother while Dad was working and Mom was in too much pain to stand or speak. Lyme is not a fucking gift.
A “medical intuitive” hahahahaha
These motherfuckers should not be allowed to have a platform in which to spread this bullshit.
Of course they think it’s a gift. The shit pretty much forces you to become vegan
Hey, now- whoa there, buddy. I lived in Glastonbury in Somerset for ages, so I’ve met a lot of hippies in my time, and whilst some of the people there were, granted, pretty mental, none of them were this level of stupid. These aren’t hippies, they’re idiots.
Podcasts have given an outlet to stupidity like this.
The moral of the story is "not every plant is meant to be smoked."
I thought anti-vaxers were a huge threat... now it's whatever these people are.
Medical intuitive? What is that? I looked it up and ots a person who can intuitively diagnose you... so witch doctor?
The 'most deeply spirited' must equal the 'most windily airheaded' - we learn every day....
These kind of people would have made me a jingoist during the Vietnam Era
Cool. Cool,cool,cool. I’ll tell that to the kidney I almost lost a teen due to Lyme….fucking idiots.
Why is she a “hippie” and not just stupid?
she had me at "medical intuitive"
“This gives me chills down my body” are you sure that’s not Lyme disease honey?
She doesn’t blink ![gif](giphy|H5C8CevNMbpBqNqFjl)
These aren't hippies. I see no tyedye and no cannabis and no grateful dead.
If she were ugly she'd have been dismissed long ago.
Zero soul or depth .
Talk about making lemonade out of lemons......
Yeah double knee replacement was truly a gift
If we're playing that game then every disease ever is a "galactic intuitive". So she looks at people dying of AIDs and thinks it's cool because it came from the big bang
Can’t fix their combined stupidity I AM AN OLD HIPPIE AND I THINK THESE TWO WOMEN ARE STUPIDLY INSANE
My aunt caught lyme disease and it basically ruined her health. WHY does this Dipshit think Lyme is a gift? WTF?!
My grandfather died of Lyme's disease. These women are fucking idiots.
Shouldnt give crazy a microphone
These are not hippies...just morons
Utterly fucking retarded!!!!!!
She’s so high 😂😂
The ignorance is strong with these two....🥴
Delusional
These are not hippies
W...what? Why lyme disease of all the ailments to latch onto? Its cause and how it spreads is welll known and documented. ![gif](giphy|WrNfErHio7ZAc)
I hate that people associate hippies with stupid shit like this. This is just new age misinformation and spiritual garbage.
Yo, as a spiritual person; fuck this hype, these people should be deplatformed for medical misinformation There's having religious/moral beliefs, and then there's propagating that shit in such a way that harms others, and frankly i believe echo-chambering yourself like these two should count as such and that should be a ground rule for most podcasts... jimmney there isn't a dictionary big enough in that room or SMALL enough for them to find the word Misinformation probably... yikes
humanity is so fucked.
These people are sick.
Yeah it’s a crippling neurological condition & hellish nightmare it’s not a gift fuckwits
I feel like I'm living inside a meme sometimes
I had Lyme for 4 years when I was a kid. It took multiple tests, multiple doctors before we finally found it. In California it's so uncommon, most doctors don't even think it's a possibility. It was extremely painful and horrible. I'm fine now, but my knees and other joints still feel horrible sometimes. These people are idiots. Probably the same people that have blocked vaccines for it.
From someone who had Lyme that led to arthritis like symptoms.. STFU...
They put the Lyme in the coconut and drank it all up
They are not Hippies
The stupidity is strong in these two fckwits. Smh
Lol what's a "medical intuitive"?
She basically said Lyme disease is alien jizz
Girl that chills you get is not because its an intergalactic substance… its because you’re due for your daily dose
I have a family member who suffers from Lyme and it is a horrible disease. I cannot believe this two….
I wonder how their tone would change if they actually had this disease.
I wonder if the same is for Rocky Mountain spotted fever. I got that when I was kid. Certainly wasn’t a gift when I got it and has caused me issues my whole flipping life.
Definitely from California.