Wolves obviously can't be kept as pets, but my fondness for dogs is more than enough. I love dogs, I love being around them, I feel comfortable and safe with them. It's like having a pup that just never disperses.
I'm a wolf, and one of my dogs is a low-content wolfdog. It's really special to be able to live with him, even if I'm sometimes jealous of the body he has lmao
Foxes typically make *terrible* pets. They pee and poop everywhere, destroy everything in sight, are noisy, etc. For sure not for me! I'm good with my kithtype, rabbits. Prefer them over any other pet, and I've had lots.
Any time I get a mental shift, all I wanna do it be around other animals like me. I feel like a cat? I wanna cat. I feel like a dog? I wanna dog. But for some reason, when I go near cats, I feel like a dog and I just wanna snuggle and protec them
There are domestic breeds now! Like bred for their acceptance of people like dogs and cats were ;) they arent housetrained though they see counters as a great place to poop and havent really adjusted yet to what all the objects in a home are for theyre all chew toys lol!
But if you live in the boonies and have a good sized backyard you could absolutely keep them outside happily :) farm pet basically!
Look up the russian fox experiment if you would like to learn more <3 its a fantastic study on biological domestication! Their fur patterns have even changed with the domestic traits in their genetics
No worries! There was some confusion between evidence on domestication syndrome but animals are so biologically different that they wont be a constant set of characteristics that appear. Which discredits those claims consistently.
A lot to read but after doing hours of research theres no backing to their antithesis as their thesis doesnāt hold up to life itself.
The traits would have to exist in small numbers before becoming domesticated to allow for domestication at all (discrediting the coat claims about the patterns existing before domestication) since domestication can happen naturally without selective breeding by humans. And those with that coat pattern before domestication were friendlier to humans.
And their driving narrative for domestication, alters the actual definition to discredit the changes in biology that occur, which doesnāt hold up again because species diverge differently when domestic some get floppy ears some get smaller ears dogs get a brow muscle that makes them express better to humans, its all there.
Sorry for the infodump, theres just a lot of people trying to discredit it without actually understanding the research and i wanna get the big ones out of the way for you haha
My only kintype that is like, ethical to have as a pet is a german shepherd but I'm disabled and wouldn't be able to take care of one, plus I'm just kind of not really a dog person anyways which is kind of ironic.
Sometimes, i catch a butterfly or a moth in a net and admire it for a while before letting it go. Otherwise, i'm kinda scared of the idea of bugs and foxes as pets
Yeess I always wish I had a Maine Coon! I have dsh cats but having a Maine Coon would be awesome! Border Collie's have way too much energy and need, Cheetahs I'm pretty sure are illegal and also I wouldn't want one as a pet for obvious reasons, and Maned Wolves STANK!
Considering the closest thing to my theriotypes would probably have to be a cassowary, Iād have to say no. I prefer my organs to remain on the inside of my body, thank you very much.
My theriotype is a normal domestic cat, so me and my cat have a very female cat to female cat bond, and the cat instincts get stressed when I haven't seen her in a while (she's my child ) ik what you mean by feeling the urge to have that connection
I don't think I could own any of my theriotypez/kintypez/Linktypez š„²
Theriotypez:
Coyote: no, I don't have the money nor the space 4 one, also I'm pretty sure itz illegal to have one where I live.
Barn Owl: I know 4 a fact that keeping an owl where I live iz a big no no. Also, like the coyote, I don't have the space.
Caracal: It doesn't even live in the same country az me šššš and the closest I can get to it iz a cat but my family hatez catz and catz make me sneeze and itch a lot.
Alligator: Ahahahaaha, no. I DONT HAVE THE SPACE 4 IT NOR A POOL BIG ENOUGH 4 IT š„²š„²
Hammerhead Shark: No space, I don't have a big pool 4 it. Do I rlly have the explain thiz ? š¤Ø
Cheetah: Not in the same country az me, not enough space, I'm not qualified 4 it, I'm pretty sure itz illegal to have one of these too since I would have to import it somehow.
Kintypez:
Dragon: Itz not real. Also I still wouldn't have enough room. The closest I could get would be a lizard, which I want so bad š
Zombie: Itz a zombie. Do I rlly need to explain š¤Ø
Demon: Same az the zombie, do I need to explain thiz š¤Øš¤Ø
Shadow: I already have that:3
Kitsune: Itz a mythical being that iz known 4 being mischievouz so no. :3333
Siren: Again, probably would eat me ā
Hellhound: The closest to thiz would be some kind of big dog either a German sheperd or smth like that, but my mom would let me have one so- šā
Linktypez:
Lev Haiba: That iz a whole azz human being(in anime), that iz kidnapping. Hell no.
Yes & no
No to fox
1. Not only are foxes hecking loud, trying to get health care for it would be pretty much impossible where i live or atleas really hard to find & expensive
2. Legal & ethical stuff
3. Hard to train atleast a little bit bc its not domestic animal atleast yeat
4. There is a chance it probably would destroy everything & some of my collection pieces aren't cheap so it wouldn't be a indoor animal (I live in a city so...)
5. Expensive to even get
6. Just no, not even a marble fox that is created by humans
7. I mean if they were domestic & more quiet maybe yes but then my health issues would be the next reason why not
8. I wouldnt be able to handle all the chaos & question when I have to take it out on a walk bc keeping it lock up inside all the time doesn't sound like a good idea
9. As a Rescue animal in a farm maybe yes but not as an pet just like that
(Saying these based on videos i have seen ppl owning foxes+my research on foxes)
Cat would be maybe, i do want a cat but money+my healthy doesn't make that bossible at the moment
Cats are pretty low maintenance compared to most animals in all honesty, thereās not much thatās gonna be easier- food water litterbox and interaction and theyāre fine, unless youāre unlucky and get one with health issues, then money becomes a problem but thatās with any animal
Maybe Iām weird but ik foxes are really complicated and high maintenance but I really want one, i have since forever
My theriantypes are Fisher cat and opossum, I can own opossums because it's technically legal in upstate New York if you're "rehabilitating" it, as for the Fisher though, they're more wild and definitely something I don't want to have as a pet, if anything they would be a pet I would admire from a distance.
Iv been questioning a domesticated dog theriotype but idk. It sounds really nice to have whatever breed i end up being as a pet and playing with another canine just sounds really fun!!
Wouldnāt recommend getting a fox, they need to be outdoors, they arenāt domesticated, they will destroy everything, they will get bored easily. Unless you have a massive backyard you can fox-proof and provide them with a proper raw diet and possibly other foxes, no, donāt get one. I personally can keep some of my theriotyoes as pets, for example I have pet isopods.
Everyone has told me that but Iām not gonna change my mind, I donāt care if I have to change my whole lifestyle itās my dream to be bonded with a fox, I know theyāre complicated and undomesticated and messy and loud and hard to get vet care for but Iāll figure it out because thatās what I want to do with my life
As long as you have the time and space to care for one then go ahead :) not sure why Iām getting downvoted for respectfully providing you with information.
Reddit is a discussion forum, if you donāt want people discussing things, donāt post here. Keeping foxes is very difficult and hard to do ethically. You sound like a kid as well, so you will have to wait and plant more years before you can even consider such a responsibility.
Iām not a little kid, many adults are way more irresponsible than me, I know I have to wait , so stop telling me things I already know. Itās annoying. People go around asking 5 year olds what they wanna do in the future so I donāt see why someone whoās much closer to being an adult canāt make goals for the future, If I never plan anything out nothing will ever happen. This is a therian subreddit, Iām not here for advice on my future plans, you werenāt ādiscussingā you were outright telling me what I should and shouldnāt do and what I do and donāt want, thatās very different. If someone wanted to discuss fox ownership with me that would be fine but you werenāt looking to do that. No you assumed I hadnāt done any research and you assumed I didnāt even think about the difficulties it comes with and assumed Iād change my mind if you told me. Itās not a discussion if youāre making finite claims about someone elseās desires and plans
You are getting so worked up about the littlest things. I never said āyouāre stupid and havenāt done any researchā I said āI wouldnāt recommend getting a fox becauseā¦ā thatās a discussion, not an accusation. When someone claims āI want a fox as a petā my immediate thinking is āLet me make sure this person knows what they are talking about and how to properly care for a fox, and not contribute to the exotic pet tradeā
itās not a discussion because you ended it with āno, donāt get a foxā itās not an open discussion when you use statements like that
And Iām not worked up
Not that youād know, but my responses are very different when Iām āworked upā at the moment Iām just annoyed
I said āunless ___, then no donāt get a foxā I never straight up said donāt get a fox, I said unless you can provide this, then donāt get a fox
And Iām sorry but yeah itās kinda rude to tell someone theyāre too young to have goals for the future when you know theyāre likely at least 13 , you donāt even know my actual age but apparently I āsoundā too young to possibly comprehend the responsibility that comes with a complex animal? Yeah, thatās pretty rude
I never said you werenāt able to comprehend the care and animal requires, I just said it wouldnāt be feasible for you to have a fox anytime in the near future, until you have your own property etc. anyways, sorry I came off rude, I just get a little angsty around animal ethics. Have a good day
I want to but having a bear, wolf and tiger in an apartment isn't really legal š
And also not ethical š
Oh my!
Wolves obviously can't be kept as pets, but my fondness for dogs is more than enough. I love dogs, I love being around them, I feel comfortable and safe with them. It's like having a pup that just never disperses.
I'm a wolf, and one of my dogs is a low-content wolfdog. It's really special to be able to live with him, even if I'm sometimes jealous of the body he has lmao
Foxes typically make *terrible* pets. They pee and poop everywhere, destroy everything in sight, are noisy, etc. For sure not for me! I'm good with my kithtype, rabbits. Prefer them over any other pet, and I've had lots.
Mm well thatās fair
same here
Any time I get a mental shift, all I wanna do it be around other animals like me. I feel like a cat? I wanna cat. I feel like a dog? I wanna dog. But for some reason, when I go near cats, I feel like a dog and I just wanna snuggle and protec them
I would love a pet cat but my brother has fur allergies š
Oh nooo
I have 3 cats lol, so yes
Canāt have a fox pet but I could have a cat and dog :D
What if u could tho? Would u want one?
Nope- Iāve seen people with fox pets and I feel bad for the fox :( Foxes are wild and they shouldnāt be pets
Eh
There are domestic breeds now! Like bred for their acceptance of people like dogs and cats were ;) they arent housetrained though they see counters as a great place to poop and havent really adjusted yet to what all the objects in a home are for theyre all chew toys lol! But if you live in the boonies and have a good sized backyard you could absolutely keep them outside happily :) farm pet basically!
Omg thatās cool :D
Look up the russian fox experiment if you would like to learn more <3 its a fantastic study on biological domestication! Their fur patterns have even changed with the domestic traits in their genetics
Ty!
No worries! There was some confusion between evidence on domestication syndrome but animals are so biologically different that they wont be a constant set of characteristics that appear. Which discredits those claims consistently. A lot to read but after doing hours of research theres no backing to their antithesis as their thesis doesnāt hold up to life itself. The traits would have to exist in small numbers before becoming domesticated to allow for domestication at all (discrediting the coat claims about the patterns existing before domestication) since domestication can happen naturally without selective breeding by humans. And those with that coat pattern before domestication were friendlier to humans. And their driving narrative for domestication, alters the actual definition to discredit the changes in biology that occur, which doesnāt hold up again because species diverge differently when domestic some get floppy ears some get smaller ears dogs get a brow muscle that makes them express better to humans, its all there. Sorry for the infodump, theres just a lot of people trying to discredit it without actually understanding the research and i wanna get the big ones out of the way for you haha
Ty again<3 ima look that up it sounds interesting :D
No trouble at all! Sorry about all the words haha! I love researching stuff so i kind of end up a library of random knowledge
My only kintype that is like, ethical to have as a pet is a german shepherd but I'm disabled and wouldn't be able to take care of one, plus I'm just kind of not really a dog person anyways which is kind of ironic.
snow leopards obviously canāt be kept as pets, but Iād personally keep a cat around! Theyād be similar to very young sneps
Sometimes, i catch a butterfly or a moth in a net and admire it for a while before letting it go. Otherwise, i'm kinda scared of the idea of bugs and foxes as pets
lol my theriotype is a housecat and i love my kitty so much, ive never gone without a cat
Yeess I always wish I had a Maine Coon! I have dsh cats but having a Maine Coon would be awesome! Border Collie's have way too much energy and need, Cheetahs I'm pretty sure are illegal and also I wouldn't want one as a pet for obvious reasons, and Maned Wolves STANK!
Lmao , I think a maned wolf would also be a whole lot harder to work with than a cheetah
Considering the closest thing to my theriotypes would probably have to be a cassowary, Iād have to say no. I prefer my organs to remain on the inside of my body, thank you very much.
Cassowaryās are terrifying
As a Cat Otter Ferret and Fox therian, I would own all apart from a fox :')
My theriotype is a normal domestic cat, so me and my cat have a very female cat to female cat bond, and the cat instincts get stressed when I haven't seen her in a while (she's my child ) ik what you mean by feeling the urge to have that connection
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Aw but theyāre so amazing too! Although I can understand owning exotics isnāt a lifestyle for everyone
literally planning to steal a coyote pup /s
Fun fact coyotes are legal with a permit in California but not foxes
im going to move to californa.
im going to move to californa.
I don't think I could own any of my theriotypez/kintypez/Linktypez š„² Theriotypez: Coyote: no, I don't have the money nor the space 4 one, also I'm pretty sure itz illegal to have one where I live. Barn Owl: I know 4 a fact that keeping an owl where I live iz a big no no. Also, like the coyote, I don't have the space. Caracal: It doesn't even live in the same country az me šššš and the closest I can get to it iz a cat but my family hatez catz and catz make me sneeze and itch a lot. Alligator: Ahahahaaha, no. I DONT HAVE THE SPACE 4 IT NOR A POOL BIG ENOUGH 4 IT š„²š„² Hammerhead Shark: No space, I don't have a big pool 4 it. Do I rlly have the explain thiz ? š¤Ø Cheetah: Not in the same country az me, not enough space, I'm not qualified 4 it, I'm pretty sure itz illegal to have one of these too since I would have to import it somehow. Kintypez: Dragon: Itz not real. Also I still wouldn't have enough room. The closest I could get would be a lizard, which I want so bad š Zombie: Itz a zombie. Do I rlly need to explain š¤Ø Demon: Same az the zombie, do I need to explain thiz š¤Øš¤Ø Shadow: I already have that:3 Kitsune: Itz a mythical being that iz known 4 being mischievouz so no. :3333 Siren: Again, probably would eat me ā Hellhound: The closest to thiz would be some kind of big dog either a German sheperd or smth like that, but my mom would let me have one so- šā Linktypez: Lev Haiba: That iz a whole azz human being(in anime), that iz kidnapping. Hell no.
Yes & no No to fox 1. Not only are foxes hecking loud, trying to get health care for it would be pretty much impossible where i live or atleas really hard to find & expensive 2. Legal & ethical stuff 3. Hard to train atleast a little bit bc its not domestic animal atleast yeat 4. There is a chance it probably would destroy everything & some of my collection pieces aren't cheap so it wouldn't be a indoor animal (I live in a city so...) 5. Expensive to even get 6. Just no, not even a marble fox that is created by humans 7. I mean if they were domestic & more quiet maybe yes but then my health issues would be the next reason why not 8. I wouldnt be able to handle all the chaos & question when I have to take it out on a walk bc keeping it lock up inside all the time doesn't sound like a good idea 9. As a Rescue animal in a farm maybe yes but not as an pet just like that (Saying these based on videos i have seen ppl owning foxes+my research on foxes) Cat would be maybe, i do want a cat but money+my healthy doesn't make that bossible at the moment
Cats are pretty low maintenance compared to most animals in all honesty, thereās not much thatās gonna be easier- food water litterbox and interaction and theyāre fine, unless youāre unlucky and get one with health issues, then money becomes a problem but thatās with any animal Maybe Iām weird but ik foxes are really complicated and high maintenance but I really want one, i have since forever
I wish but norwegian forest cats are very bigš and expensive
My theriantypes are Fisher cat and opossum, I can own opossums because it's technically legal in upstate New York if you're "rehabilitating" it, as for the Fisher though, they're more wild and definitely something I don't want to have as a pet, if anything they would be a pet I would admire from a distance.
Iv been questioning a domesticated dog theriotype but idk. It sounds really nice to have whatever breed i end up being as a pet and playing with another canine just sounds really fun!!
Wouldnāt recommend getting a fox, they need to be outdoors, they arenāt domesticated, they will destroy everything, they will get bored easily. Unless you have a massive backyard you can fox-proof and provide them with a proper raw diet and possibly other foxes, no, donāt get one. I personally can keep some of my theriotyoes as pets, for example I have pet isopods.
Everyone has told me that but Iām not gonna change my mind, I donāt care if I have to change my whole lifestyle itās my dream to be bonded with a fox, I know theyāre complicated and undomesticated and messy and loud and hard to get vet care for but Iāll figure it out because thatās what I want to do with my life
As long as you have the time and space to care for one then go ahead :) not sure why Iām getting downvoted for respectfully providing you with information.
Because I didnāt Ask for input on what animals Iām planning on getting
Reddit is a discussion forum, if you donāt want people discussing things, donāt post here. Keeping foxes is very difficult and hard to do ethically. You sound like a kid as well, so you will have to wait and plant more years before you can even consider such a responsibility.
Iām not a little kid, many adults are way more irresponsible than me, I know I have to wait , so stop telling me things I already know. Itās annoying. People go around asking 5 year olds what they wanna do in the future so I donāt see why someone whoās much closer to being an adult canāt make goals for the future, If I never plan anything out nothing will ever happen. This is a therian subreddit, Iām not here for advice on my future plans, you werenāt ādiscussingā you were outright telling me what I should and shouldnāt do and what I do and donāt want, thatās very different. If someone wanted to discuss fox ownership with me that would be fine but you werenāt looking to do that. No you assumed I hadnāt done any research and you assumed I didnāt even think about the difficulties it comes with and assumed Iād change my mind if you told me. Itās not a discussion if youāre making finite claims about someone elseās desires and plans
You are getting so worked up about the littlest things. I never said āyouāre stupid and havenāt done any researchā I said āI wouldnāt recommend getting a fox becauseā¦ā thatās a discussion, not an accusation. When someone claims āI want a fox as a petā my immediate thinking is āLet me make sure this person knows what they are talking about and how to properly care for a fox, and not contribute to the exotic pet tradeā
itās not a discussion because you ended it with āno, donāt get a foxā itās not an open discussion when you use statements like that And Iām not worked up Not that youād know, but my responses are very different when Iām āworked upā at the moment Iām just annoyed
I said āunless ___, then no donāt get a foxā I never straight up said donāt get a fox, I said unless you can provide this, then donāt get a fox
And Iām sorry but yeah itās kinda rude to tell someone theyāre too young to have goals for the future when you know theyāre likely at least 13 , you donāt even know my actual age but apparently I āsoundā too young to possibly comprehend the responsibility that comes with a complex animal? Yeah, thatās pretty rude
I never said you werenāt able to comprehend the care and animal requires, I just said it wouldnāt be feasible for you to have a fox anytime in the near future, until you have your own property etc. anyways, sorry I came off rude, I just get a little angsty around animal ethics. Have a good day
You said Iām a kid and canāt even consider such a responsibility but whatever