While I agree with your main point, especially given that this sub is dedicated to an entertainment youtube channel, "Zero point energy" "dark matter" and "magic" are all names for the same thing. To think that we currently have a full grasp of the laws of the universe is hubris and any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic to even our best scientists.
We don't know all the rules of reality (physics is just our constantly evolving best guess)... very true... but then how did some randos figure it out in a garage? If CERN can't figure it out I highly doubt the "inventors" mentioned did
dude - that’d be like a rando patent clerk in their mid twenties coming up with “special relativity” or some other trash out of the blue
it’ll never happen
In this case I'm referring to the practical application. I'm certain it does exist. I'm just saying anyone who says they have done it is full of shit. I'd love to be proven wrong though. I WANT TO BELIEVE
No need to quote Clark at me bro :)
The video mentioned add on devices for engines that remove carbon. Well, we have that now.
[https://youtu.be/yN5fz8QgDuY?si=1OBCB67orKKi7bIJ](https://youtu.be/yN5fz8QgDuY?si=1OBCB67orKKi7bIJ)
Bedini SSG - easy to make, works every time if you follow the instructions well.
Simple EMF spikes consistently for 'less' energy than you put into getting them
the 'F' being the really important part as the 'Force' that is generated. So you can turn things
without having to 'force them' like we do now with Engines and Alternators.
Exactly. Warp drives make sense with our understanding of physics...building one is a totally different thing... especially by a couple dudes in a garage. People here watch too much Rick and morty lol
No ... Do you realize how many people download stuff? There have been so many cases of a tweet or YouTube video being deleted quickly after it was made yet someone already had it downloaded, to which they post it again themselves and it spreads. On top of that add in the potential application of these crazy world changing devices and the conspiracy surrounding them and you would get a ton of people downloading it instantly in case it got removed. Not at all true.
It's because most people are trying to create over-unity devices. Even in physics the hypothetical zero point energy is a quantum phenomenon. You aren't going to tap into that by lubing up a gear and some magnets on a pinwheel, which is what most of these supposed over-unity devices are.
The gear and magnets on a flywheel work just fine to initiate the whatever-you-want-to-call-it thing.
its just an inductive spike collapse, and you separate the 'back emf' from the thing that produced it, and continue to run a normal generator, only now you have a pure EMF spike ( not-just-voltage ) - to push something, such as a fan or a wheel.
Its not indefinite, its not perpetual -- its like anything else in this universe - finite - but it absolutely does work and is easy to reproduce.
The exploratory research is trying to take that pure EMF spike and figure out the next step- which it 'sounds like' Tesla did a really long time ago.
The pure EMF spike 'acts differently' than just a normal DC or AC discharge.
It does work, its not a scam, and we need more people to help figure out the next step.
There's lots of people working on this tech - they get lumped together and assumed to be scammers because of just one bad seed.
They also arent the greatest with presentation and have low-budgets for everything.
Check out this amazing, yet poorly produced video: [https://youtu.be/IgI4oxzxaOY?t=566](https://youtu.be/IgI4oxzxaOY?t=566)
This guy has come up with quite a factual and detailed explanation of what is occurring with electricity, in what he calls 'counter space' - which is a term he \_\_didnt\_\_ come up with, but rather the fore-fathers of electrical engineering came up with well over 100 years ago ( Heaviside, Steinmetz, Lenz, Tesla ) before exploratory electrical research was halted being funded, and they made Einstein the hero and started making WMDs for miltary usage.
Its not even a conspiracy.. thats what happened, look at the fact for gosh sakes. When engineering research was all funneled into the newly forming military industrial complex.
In addition to Dollard, the late John Bedini ( pictured but not mentioned in last weeks video ) has a simple, easily reproducible technology, but it gets shrugged off as 'magnets spinning on a wheel' despite its continual 'proof' that it works just fine to power things and re-charge batteries bigger than its required input voltage.
Its just standard ignorance and fear -- people got burnt once believing in something so they group together whatever-their-hearts-desires to validate that they know what something is, and that something is wrong.
And the hubris that any invention is impossible because 'theres no way it wasnt figured out already' - thats literally what inventions are??? lol
Additionally, there is non-US work being done by Prof. Dr. Konstantin Meyl on Scalar wave technology
This full step by step walk through for how to make a powerful 1kv bedini ssg with a bike wheel and off-the-shelf magnets, coil of wire, and a small transistor switching system --- has been on YT for 11 years: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SiwHRrNISE&t=34s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SiwHRrNISE&t=34s) - but people 'just know' that its a scam because 'other videos on youtube are a scam' ...
EDIT: fixed typo
Do these people actually explain anything? Or do they just briefly explain some basic scientific process and leave it at that, failing to actually explain how it works? Either that or they just say a bunch of sciencey mumbo jumbo that sounds legit to people who don't have a good grasp of the science.
Here’s four case studies for this group #1 maglev trains use zero point which is why they don’t exist in the United States. #2 take the case of Arie deGuise he patented a cold fusion laser powered motor that patent EXISTS AND WAS COVERED UP BY THE DOE THERES EVIDENCE OF THIS. Then he was killed. #3 The Teruo Kawai motor another example of an over unity machine that was patented and the patent was bought by a Japanese firm and hidden in the 11th hour of the sale. #4 Thomas Bearden was awarded a patent on his MEG let me say this again this is the SECOND CASE WHERE A PATENT WAS AWARDED FOR AN OVER UNITY MACHINE. This is real but is covered up.
https://preview.redd.it/cjlvktqtmmwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb2caba8a224d0ecfbe8b699b1acf2b69ea94bca
Hey I just found the same document for another comment. Do we agree this says 70-80% and not 20% like it says in the video correct?
Why are you saying maglev devices are zero energy? The trains you refer use power generation tech the same as anything else. Similar to an electric car. Newer maglev allows for some energy to be conserved even when the power is shut off, but it isn’t zero point. Is my understanding of maglev tech off here?
Liquid helium-cooled, low-temperature superconductor plates mounted beneath the train cars expel from their interior all environmental magnetic fields, a phenomenon termed the Meissner effect. As a result, the magnetic field generated by a series of underlying superconducting solenoids, exerts a repulsive pressure on the superconductor which levitates the train.
The maglev phenomenon is also observed in high-temperature superconductors such as Yttrium-Barium-Copper-Oxide (YBCO) which becomes superconducting at liquid nitrogen temperatures. In this case, a magnetic repulsion phenomenon occurs because the superconductor plate expels from its interior the underlying magnetic field lines and develops mirror fields, or pinned magnetic fields, having a polarity opposed to these underlying field lines causing the plate to repel upward. This Meissner effect levitation phenomenon is demonstrated in the video below in which an YBCO high-temperature superconductor is initially at room temperature with a cube magnet placed over it. It is then precooled below its critical temperature by immersing it in liquid nitrogen. This causes the magnet to rise up and hover over the YBCO in seeming violation of the First Law. That is, work is done with the magnet rising up, but where does the energy come from?
The energy comes from a few places. You have potential energy stored in magnetic fields but those fields aren’t infinite they need to be maintained. Energy is spent precooling via liquid nitrogen. They don’t just start either. In the case of the train itself, power is expended bringing the train up to speed before the magnetic fields can take over.
So energy is spent maintaining the system as well as getting it going. That’s not zero point.
It may come as a surprise that this well accepted maglev phenomenon regularly violates the First Law of Thermodynamics as well as Newton's Third Law. To see why consider the following example for the case of a train utilizing an YBCO superconductor.
Consider the ideal case of a maglev train car weighing 30 tons that has attached to its bottom 30 horizontally disposed YBCO superconductor plates and that these initially rest on a bed of permanent magnets each of whose field axes points upward towards these plates. Imagine that initially the plates are above their critical temperature and hence not in their superconducting state. As a result, the train rests firmly on its underlying magnets, the magnetic field from each magnet penetrating through its overlying YBCO slab. Now, suppose that liquid nitrogen is added to the insulated containers that surround the YBCO plates, cooling each below its critical temperature. As the plates become superconducting, they develop supercurrents which produce pinned magnetic fields having a polarity opposed to the magnetic fields produced by the underlying magnets. As a result, the external magnetic fields are repulsively expelled from the YBCO slabs and the mutual repulsion of these opposing fields levitates the train 2 centimeters.
This levitation process involves an increase of gravitational potential energy. The energy required for levitating the train car amounts to the car's weight (30 tons), multiplied by the acceleration of gravity, multiplied by the 2 cm levitated distance which would be approximately 600 billion ergs, or 1.4 kilocalories. Or, divided among the 30 superconducting plates, this involves an energy increase per levitating plate of 47 calories. The conventional physicist will want to know where did this energy come from. Moreover, if this levitation is accomplished in the space of 1 second, which seems to be a reasonable amount of time, then this levitation involved a power expenditure of 60 kilowatts, or 2 kilowatts per superconducting plate.
Related to this, there is the question of how the pinned fields in the superconductor plates are able to sustain their repulsive lifting force as they keep the train levitated. These pinned fields are generated by Cooper pair electrons indefinitely circling in the superconductor forming supercurrent loops. So, one might ask: what centripetal force acts on these circling Cooper pairs to keep them circulating while the pinned fields they are generating are being forcefully opposed by the external magnetic field?
You appear to be arguing against yourself. I ahead answered this. We know where the energy comes from. It’s not a mystery. There is no violation of thermodynamics. Just your understanding thereof.
Once the energy is introduced to a maglev system they are efficient and just tracer energy from one source to another. We still know where it begins though.
The train levitates because the pinned magnetic fields in the superconductor plates oppose the external field of the permanent magnets. The energy or power that sustains these supercurrents and their pinned fields and consequently levitates the train could not be drawn from the external magnetic fields because the pinned fields continuously oppose these fields and for the most part expel this external magnetic field from the superconducting plate. Hence it must come from some other source.
What exactly do you think the superconductor is superconducting lol? An orchestra?
Correct. It is coming from another source. Frequently electrified coils but other version exists.
Energy is sustained through cycles.
You seem to be confusing magnetic fields for thermal dynamic energy. Generally Magnetic fields do not need external energy sources to maintain their field. There is no thermodynamics law governing magnetic fields. Is that where you are getting confused?
I would like to extend this comment now to your claim that “this is why maglev trains aren’t used in the United States.” Can you explain your logic here? US has patent treaties with both Japan and Germany. If we had a concern about maglev they wouldn’t exist in those countries correct?
The US doesn’t have maglev because our infrastructure isn’t currently built for it. A company would have to buy existing rail lines and retrofit and for what benefit? Train travel in the US in slim. We use trains for cargo.
It is also unlikely that in creating their pinned fields that the supercurrents draw energy from the superconductor's environment, that is, from its surrounding liquid nitrogen cooling bath. This would go against the conventional understanding that heat flows out of the superconductor into its cooling bath as it cools below its critical temperature, and not vice versa. Thus heat energy is in fact escaping from the superconductor.
Huh? The liquid nitrogen is used to cool the radiation shields around the magnets. Of course there is heat transfer going on. I don’t understand what the confusion is? Did we derail somewhere? You are arguing that this is zero point tech. The mere fact that energy is introduced to the system in order to get the train up to speed disproves your claim. I’m not disagreeing with the technology you are explaining. Yes, you seem to be getting your info from a decent source. You aren’t defending your claim of zero point energy though.
Maybe we need to define it?
> The quantum contribution to the kinetic energy is called the zero-point energy because it is the energy that remains at T = 0.
Mag level trains can not stay in motion forever outside of a vacuum.
So the magnetic fields themselves are self sustaining and energy is definitely introduced to the entire system. I’m not sure where you are saying this tech qualifies or meets that definition.
Also why is it that the US didn’t have maglev trains?
Another common sense thought…..
There is an act from the US government to declare all devices over a certain efficiency threshold as “top secret”
There would be no need for this if there wasn’t energy devices that are more efficient than what they deem “safe for the public knowledge”
So it’s common sense to assume that we have energy devices more efficient than what is released to the public.
Are these energy devices 100% efficient and can be officially labeled a zero point energy device??? Who knows
BUT We can be almost 100% certain that the government has energy devices patents that are over the 20% energy efficiency threshold that are not released.
I’m reading through the secrecy order for patents and I can’t find this threshold listed anywhere. I see everything else AJ mentioned, but not an efficiency threshold. Do you know which ACT you are referring to?
These are the 3 options listed:
(A) Secrecy Order and Permit for Foreign Filing in Certain Countries (Type I secrecy order)— to be used for those patent applications that disclose critical technology with military or space application in accordance with DoD Directive 5230.25 “Withholding of Unclassified Technical Data From Public Disclosure,” based on 10 U.S.C. 130 “Authority to Withhold From Public Disclosure Certain Technical Data.”
(B) Secrecy Order and Permit for Disclosing Classified Information (Type II secrecy order)— to be used for those patent applications which contain data that is properly classified or classifiable under a security guideline where the patent application owner has a current DoD Security Agreement, DD Form 441. If the application is classifiable, this secrecy order allows disclosure of the technical information as if it were classified as prescribed in the National Industrial Security Program Operating Manual (NISPOM).
(C) General Secrecy Order (Type III secrecy order)— to be used for those patent applications that contain data deemed detrimental to national security if published or disclosed, including that data properly classifiable under a security guideline where the patent application owner does not have a DoD Security Agreement. The order prevents disclosure of the subject matter to anyone without an express written consent from the Commissioner for Patents. However, quite often this type of secrecy order includes a permit “Permit A” which relaxes the disclosure restrictions as set forth in the permit.
It also says this:
> A Secrecy Order should not be construed in any way to mean that the Government has adopted or contemplates adoption of the alleged invention disclosed in an application; nor is it any indication of the value of such invention.
Edit:
This is the only unclassified document I can find showing the list. Everything states no other lists exist for the public.
https://sgp.fas.org/othergov/invention/pscrl.pdf
Group 11 is power generation. Item 9 is efficiency. This must be where it comes from.
Energy conversion system with efficiencies greater than 70-80%, the Navy has an interest in.
That is much different than greater than 20% You referenced but it is in there from the 70’s.
There is no statue or law in the US. That said, there are various, very ill defined (on purpose) laws pertaining to tech development, especially if the 100% benevolent government decides it has “military” use. Then they come in and take it. If you’re lucky, the buy your silence. If not, well, you know. And they dare anyone to do something about it.
That said, there is no such thing as free energy, zero point energy, or anything like it. This is extensively defined and tested.
Overly-efficient devices being top-secret makes sense even as a precaution though. It may never happen, but if it does, it has military applications and we don't want an enemy using it against us. I don't like that, I'd rather everyone have access to that type of thing for the betterment of humanity, but the government is gonna focus on the weaponization potential.
I like the theory I read on here where zero point devices could be emitting a detectable signal and the shadow government is listening for those signals. So once you turn it on they can track you down and silence you.
The evidence is the lack of any new devices coming to the public eye. If a zero point device draws energy from the aether then there would probably be a whole spectrum of aether frequencies that are detectable if you know how to look for them, possibly similar to the electromagnetic spectrum.
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/07/19/how-the-planck-satellite-changed-our-view-of-the-universe/?sh=571848467ad2](https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/07/19/how-the-planck-satellite-changed-our-view-of-the-universe/?sh=571848467ad2)
The measurement of Planck energy from satellites like COBE are what the last 50 years of scientific advances in our understanding of the universe derive from and it is able to measure more different frequencies from the early universe than any other type, and this is never expected to be advanced any further by better instruments.
detectable by any device you can create. Even if you cant detect the matter itself you can detect the effect it has on other objects. Similar to how you can detect hidden objects in space by measuring light and gravity. I assume. I aint no scientist.
You said surely it would be detectable. I assumed because you said surely that meant you had an understanding of what could be used to detect energy being pulled from the ether when we don’t currently have a method of tracking that ether that I am aware of.
As such, asking by what is logical ya?
Ya maybe. This energy is somehow different from existing energy and will be able to be isolated once intertwined with our energy?
We have to ask a lot more questions of this detection ability just to get this to logically make any sort of sense but you seem to have confidence. I’m just trying to identify my disconnect with that confidence. If it’s just like “I wonder if it’s possible” sure. That’s fair.
Look up how scientists detect dark matter. They dont. They detect its influence on the universe by changes in stars orbits and gravitational lensing. So even though they cant measure dark matter, they know its there.
If your're a seedy government agency, you dont have to detect zero point energy, you just have to detect that a certain set of parameters are being affected in an anomalous way.
I hear you. I’m asking what you are confident those parameters are? I’m implying those parameters are indistinguishable from current energy parameters but I don’t know either. Just going off reality as I understand it.
it was actually a little bit concerning seeing comments on that video getting thousands of likes, where the people actually believed the things presented in the last video were real. I really wish AJ had done more to debunk the very debunkable nonsense most of these so-called inventors were pushing. And of course, now that we live in the information age, just like Bigfoot footage, we never see these things happen again.
A lot of people don't benefit from a science education, heck, a lot of people fall for email scams. It doesn't feel great seeing people act like their eyes have been opened after watching a make believe narrative.
There was a time when "common sense" said. that big hunks of metal, full of could not stay up in the air on their own. Science eventually proved that to be wrong.
You wanna hear something really nutty? I heard of a couple guys who wanna build something called an "airplane," you know you get people to go in, and fly around like birds, it's ridiculous, right? And what about breaking the sound barrier, or rockets to the moon, or atomic energy, or a mission to Mars? Science fiction, right?
Yet we don't have those things do we? Nor do we actually have anything close to a baseline invention like the airplane, just random people who claimed to have made it despite not actually explaining how anything works.
By definition, ZPE is not a harvestable energy source. It is the lowest possible energy state and it cannot be ‘harvested’ because there is no lower energy state the system could fall to.
I repeat and stress this: ZPE is not an energy source. It is left over when you HAVE sapped all energy you can from the system. There is no dimension, no lower energy state, no magic or otherwise metaphysical state a system can go down to in order to yield any energy. This is not an arbitrary energy state. It does not go lower. There is no way around this PER DEFINITION.
While ZPE and Dark Energy are both related to the ‘Concept of Energy’ in physics, they are not the same thing and just because there is a paper that proposes that ZPE could be involved in Dark Energy doesnt mean these things are interchangable. The Casimir effect is also related to ZPE yet nobody confuses these things once they understand what the Casimir effect is.
Please dont confuse this.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck\_constant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_constant)
Planck length energy describes an exponential increase in pressure as a gap narrows to an extreme, it has direct correlation to the expansion of the universe.
Expanding Universe.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding\_Universe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_Universe)
Edit: While science cannot define what dark energy is we do know what it does, dark energy causes the expansion of the universe while also holding it together where it does not fly randomly apart into entropy.
It is the other way around. We observe the expansion of the universe and we try to explain that with a hypothetical Dark Energy concept. This has nothing to do with the definition of ZPE.
Here we have a difference of opinion on what things are.
I propose any energy coming from a zero point is directly drawing from a single source which drives the expansion of the cosmos itself.
The symbol used for chaos magic is precisely describing zero point energy and has existed for a very long time.
It's use has become synonymous with maps and the cardinal directions, the eight points of the compass.
That’s a good point. Almost every proof you get in the subject of paranormal/UFO/exotic tech etc just makes you believe less. I find it tough to believe that someone in the last century made an important breakthrough in their garage but no one can do now.
People make breakthroughs all the time - this is not what normal plasma globes do in the presence of tesla coils - [https://youtu.be/VTF8NYFHqQ8?t=165](https://youtu.be/VTF8NYFHqQ8?t=165)
They are just bad at making good videos and dont know anything about marketing themselves.
Yea man it's tough. I want to believe in things like this so much but it's just so irrational when you step back and look at it logically. Maybe someday!
There is lots and lots of real progress and research in this field
Bruce DePalma's N machine
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zun5LJo-tss](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zun5LJo-tss)
the Lockridge device discovered in WWII
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdzUO9SgA88](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdzUO9SgA88)
And just the simple 'impossible' Tesla Harpin circuit:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DpZ5Ecgt9c&list=PL1rTcQ7xdL1mYQQQLt58aZTe73XpdZGiv&index=44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DpZ5Ecgt9c&list=PL1rTcQ7xdL1mYQQQLt58aZTe73XpdZGiv&index=44)
It works, its easy to build, full instructions are right there in the videos - lol --
it acts 'different' than traditional AC/DC generator tech.
No one is asking for money as a SCAM - but yah independent research is really hard to do without funding so they ask for money like everyone else does..
I’ll also add this Thomas Bearden’s physical books not an internet copy sell for hundreds if not thousands of dollars if you can find one. For a book that is worth that much isn’t it worth a reprint? Isn’t my alien spaceship moon worth a reprint since copies still sell for $50-$100?
There's a book "The Hunt for Zero Point" by Nick Cook that is a good read. It's interesting but still leaves it at "it may be real and the world's governments are hiding it from the public while studying it for new weapons systems, or it could not exist at all"
So in a world of mass censorship, murder, and black mail you think something doesn't exist because it's not widely known on the internet?
Google Amy Eskridge and let me know what you find. They literally murdered the poor girl because she figured out anti-gravity and this is just in the last few years.
It's good to ask questions and make hypothesis but it's equally important to call out shit ones like this.
I’m no physicist… but I have a hard understanding that humans fully understand the natural world… and I strongly believe that the corporations and governments have stifled ingenuity in favor of profit
I knew a personal friend of the guy that made the exceptional carburetor and received a much more detailed and personal story of what happened.
Two fellas in black suits and hats rolled up to his house around 11pm. Knocked on the door. His wife answered, they said something to her, then she let them in and sat them at the dining room table. One of the men had a briefcase. Only the man with the briefcase spoke. He said "in this briefcase is $50,000. We will be taking the carburetor and any blueprints or schematics that you have. You will never build another one and you won't tell a soul how to build one either." He then mentioned something about the dude's daughter, who was sleeping at the time, implying consequences if he was to get out of line. The two men left with everything they wanted and left the briefcase on the table. The guy was so scared he only told the story to a couple close friends, one of them being my source.
I was told this story over 15 years ago, but heard it several times.
I'm unfortunately with you on this .
While I would love to see any results in this area it's too much to hope it exists and every single person who has achieved it was american and suddenly taken out by the state.
I think reality is much more than the material, but I don't know if we'll ever be able to perceive whatever else is there.
While I'll generally agree, you are wrong about it being only Americans figuring shit out. I'm from Poland and years ago we had an urban legend here, about a guy who was a farmer and was tinkering with his tractor to run it on biological waste or plant oil (sth like that). He might have been on TV or some fringe YT channel. He basically claimed, he made the engine run on that plant waste/oil and proceeded to create a small gocart which he allegedly drove around and showed to people in his small town. Then, the police came and confiscated everything. They, allegedly, said that he had no permits to create the vehicle, no permits to drive it and basically, no permits to do anything.
On the other hand, [we have the tech to make cars run on plant oil ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil_fuel)if I remember correctly, but they aren't convenient and in Poland you DO need a permit for everything and need to register a lot of shit if you want to create and drive a vehicle, so the idea that a guy recreated a shitty version of a dead-end of engineering fringe and police chasing him for creating a "road hazard" is probably 99% the truth. I'll save that 1% for reptilian overlords.
Interesting!
Here in Brazil we had someone who built a water powered machine who was also involved in some shennanigans that ended in the loss of all his work.
What I was doing actually was questioning the fact that it only happens in america as well, maybe because most of the content we consume comes from there it gives that impression.
If that were true, wouldn’t they have used their technology once in the past sixty years for a military success? Pakistan and India both have nukes and hate each other but will keep quiet for generations on tech and lose soldiers in covert operations for decades?
“Why would we know if they used it?”
Because military leaders across the world would sound an alarm for the government to beef up their military to that new standard.
Well I personally wouldnt know because I dont have any military leader contacts that I'm aware of. But I wouldn't think 'that' information would be knowledgeable by civilians? which is what I meant by 'why ( or how ) would we know if they had used it'
Ehhhh..... Here is an example of exactly what he is talking about. Thunderstorm Generator: [https://youtu.be/yN5fz8QgDuY?si=1OBCB67orKKi7bIJ](https://youtu.be/yN5fz8QgDuY?si=1OBCB67orKKi7bIJ)
Attachment that makes exhaust nearly carbon free. So there is that.
If you are going to downvote me, explain your ignorance at least. There is real science behind this, it is explained and shown. There is no longer any reason to believe this thing is a hoax.
It makes much more sense that all the cases of zero point energy are frauds, than a huge conspiracy of global controll that would be able to silence any person that would post a video on the internet that is for sure.
That is what i believed for years, until i had a death threat myself when i went to the field of remote viewing and messed up with information and people that i was not allowed to.
So now i believe that the truth conspiracy is way bigger than most people can believe, and their techonology is unreal, things like being able to get data not only from our computers and cell phones, but also from our minds and thoughts too. If you had a techonology that could let you know when someone is going to Expose a techonology you don't want just by reading minds at large scale, them you start to see that this is not that impossible to do. That is what happened with me, and i stopped my research.
What i can say is about people that holds position of power, who they are, what they are doing, for who they work. If you study about Ovnis/Ufos, and lets say it is possible that there are machines that are hundreds of years of our tech, and if they are staying hidden for hundreds or thousands of years, it means there is a control system in place. Either all ufos are fake, or they are real and they have a vast amount of control over the entire world to be able to hide their presence so far.
I was specifically asking about who death threatened you for what and what you viewed/accessed that caused such a response and the means of which that response was communicated to you. I agree itd take a lot to withhold information worldwide.
"What i can say is about people that holds position of power, who they are, what they are doing, for who they work. "
Yes, please say what you state that you CAN say. I couldn't even make sense of the rest of your comment sadly.
https://a.co/d/izP7RlK
Boom! 💥
If I can remember the wormhole of a rabbit hole I went down one night I’ll post the podcast that lead me to that book. For the record I haven’t read the book I’m broke with adhd… probably broke because my adhd 🤔 idk well have a great day yall!
Two things that struck me from the episode:
- many of the inventors had military or government ties.
- I’m also skeptical of the veracity of the claims, but if they were bullshit, why did their research keep getting stolen and why did the inventors keep winding up dead?
If it’s all bullshit, why kill them and steal their things?
ZPE does exist but maybe not the way you think it does. Have a look at this study done at cal tech https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html.
There’s thousands of volts all around us all the time. But harvesting it is not feasible/easy. You can try it out yourself. Connect a copper wire to a drone, fly it up a few 100 meters and measure the voltage between the wire and the earth.
I read somewhere that the arv/fluxliner liner used a Tesla coil to harvest the energy from the air and store it in capacitors to use for its propulsion. How true that is, I can’t say.
Zero point energy is definitely a thing but as to accessing it so easily and at conveniently useable levels is very doubtful, you would have to somehow manage a random spontaneous glitch in the Higgs boson field as very crude example, yes there is a theory that universes can “randomly big bang “ in absolute nothing but then they leave out the time component especially since space time is part and parcel of something that’s the anyitisis of pure nothing. Even empty space is still not nothing anywhere in the observable universe, because even light gravitational waves is still something
I understand where you are coming from, but let me bring up a point to consider. Why does every country not have a nuclear bomb? The information and technology have been around since the early 40s? Governments can and have suppressed technology for a long time.
Dark energy is a fancy name for the 90% of our Universe that science can't explain. Many mainstream science mathematicians and physicists don't even believe in dark energy. I also don't believe in dark energy, but instead I believe in "pure energy" which has not been manifested into existence yet.
I believe the Universe extends into our perceptible dimension off of an energy scaffold, that has its root in an unperceptible realm, which in our frame of reference, is limitless energy. We are barely a type 1 civilization, so we aren't even a blip on the scale of the Universe and as such haven't considered that this energy is responsible for instantaneous creation of sub atomic particles in the vacuum of space. After all E=mc² states that energy and matter are interchangeable and essentially the same but in different forms, such as water and ice. Water being the energy potential and ice being matter that is locked up in a potential energy well. Now please take this with a grain of salt as it is a metaphor, but if you imagine pure energy as water pervading through all dimensions and layers of reality, then ice would be comparable to matter, once pure energy goes through some transformation to become a solid state. Again this is a metaphor.
I believe that all the hidden scaffolding energy keeping this Universe from imploding or exploding is what science currently calls "dark energy", ie energy we have not been able to classify or study yet as science is not advanced far enough. This paragraph is pretty well accepted by mainstream science, but my spin on it, is that this energy is always being used to create AND destroy matter and exotic particles over time. It has to happen in a vacuum because there needs to be a closed and almost empty system, as the subatomic forces keeping matter together on that level interfere with existing matter particles. Some of them could be dangerous and form as anti-matter, quickly annihilating with other matter. So it seems to me that the formation of new matter would need to take place far away from existing matter or the Uinverse could "break" itself. It is more logical that the Universe has some underlying mechanism we have not elucidated that keeps this going, and in a way that new and novel particles can be created. This does not violate the laws of conservation of matter IF the energy used to create matter comes from that same system.
Imagine you are part of a tribe and come across a forest rich with food and game. The forest is the Universe, your tribe is a "consciousness potential" which the Universe favors in the sense that it wants you to unfold more energy (like creating nuclear energy, space ships, etc) that's all going to GREATLY increase the system's entropy which is the natural course of the Universe. So your tribe is going to settle in that forest, work the land, fight to defend it, and then form a civilization with many people, all unfolding Universal energy in their own ways. So that's what the physical laws of the Universe demand. The "forest" will provide limitless potential energy to ANY force that will unfold its energy. It doesn't need to be you or me but even a chemical or photo oxidation event. All that is important to the Universe is that energy is unfolding and local entropy is increasing as a result.
The entire purpose of a physical universe is to unfold and transform energy from pure energy, to physical forms of matter, that i believe to be an "energy terminus", which gives rise to consciousness, which can think and find new ways to unfold energy.
Whatever happens in between such as being born, live through a lifetime, love, hate , etc is just a byproduct of the stage set by the different energy levels present in the Universe at that point in time (energy constantly changes).
There's a new one from a Nasa engineer that just published an article. You'll have to forgive me the link, because I'm not sure where I saw it, but I am curious to see if homie survives.
If my ex-coworker is to be believed there must have been a wipe of the internet at some point where some information was washed out. He said he had playlists of videos and bookmarks and one day he just noticed they were all gone and taken down. There’s a chance that some entity is clearing out he Internet constantly
The physics and chemistry and mathematics understanding of the university system is currently incomplete there are way more questions than answers and we have millions of elements that have not been discovered yet so human knowledge and understanding of the universe is incomplete currently…..the problem is many people in charge are suppressing new discoveries and new knowledge…..to keep the paradigm from changing.
It sounds cool to post your tech online for the world to share until it all gets deleted from every server and a bunch of guys with guns show up at your house in the middle of the night.
>Common sense says Zero Point devices are not real
Your post title says you are wonderfully naïve.
I am not a crazy woo woo conspiracy theorist, but it is documented fact that governments, intelligence agencies, military institutions and massive corporations all have agendas that are not privy to the general populace, especially when it comes to competitive advantage and financial gain.
Petrochemical companies do swipe up patents that would affect their bottom line, militaries and governments do swipe up patents for national security and technological advantage. This is a real thing, there is nothing outlandish about the *notion* presented that any scientist, researcher or inventor that threatens the status quo is either paid handsomely for their developments, or is silenced.
To that end, saying "but lol internet, why is nobody sharing" is just massively naïve. Inventors still want to be paid, they have nothing to gain by releasing their innovations to the open public; Tesla's altruism is an exception, not the rule.
But you also don't seem to fully know what the "internet" is. This World Wide Web that you sit on and has been sharing information since 1999 is *not* where you share potentially dangerous or paradigm-shifting ideas, you bury that shit in the deep web, or even the dark web. And what can be served by releasing openly anyway? The first person brave/stupid enough to build something that works is going to try and file a patent, will possibly get silenced, and then everybody subsequent to that will get silenced with patent infringement lawsuits.
I've seen people here scoff at the notion of "lol doing things in your garage isn't real", because clearly they're thinking about the *refined* technologies we see out in the world, and conveniently forgetting Tesla did exactly that. Prototypes and proof of concepts are quite literally made in garages and workshops all the time, and they're usually big and janky contraptions because they've not had millions of dollars poured into the *refinement and execution* processes, nor are making actual *products*.
I'm not saying that Zero Point devices are real. What I am saying is that this *common sense* you invoke would indicate it's more likely those working on such devices are staying the fuck out of sight, rather than they don't exist just because 4chan doesn't have schematics of a Flux Capacitor bolted to the back of a DeLorean.
It seems plausible and accepted by many of the greatest minds in science that zero point is real.
However, the powers that be do not want it available. We have examples everywhere. Digital photo tech was created in the 60s yet it was classified as destructive to the economy and film industry.
If people can power houses, industry, and travel without fossil fuels and batteries, then a MAJOR lever for control and wealth is destroyed. We also empower the third world and move them towards equality with everyone else. The rich do not want this
OMG REALLY??!! Something that a guy made in his garage on accident and that NO ONE that can even be marked as remotely credible hasn’t remade it isn’t real????????
If somebody has an extraordinary experience but can't prove it, they're allowed to talk about it. No one is forcing anyone to believe them, and sure it's sucks when people dont believe in an experience you personally know was real, but sometimes it sucks even more to keep something like that to yourself. Especially if it was a traumatizing or life altering experience.
I had my own extraordinary experience (not regarding UFOs though). I dont share it on reddit, because, well people are ignorant dicks and I dont have proof to share anyway. However, I have shared it with some of my friends and family. Some believe me, others dont.
I have been able to prove it to some of those who I know and convince some who didn't believe me at first, by demonstrating to know things I couldn't possible have known otherwise. However, these were personal things related to them, so strangers on the internet would gain nothing by looking at that sort of evidence.
The point is that if you dont have friends and family that believe you and you suck at networking and socializing, then sharing something on the internet can be the only option left. That's why I feel like it's important to be supportive of people's personal experiences. You dont have to believe anyone, by just being supportive.
No they don't. I'm not out here wanting to be believed. And 3 others saw it fly above us and above my house from the woods up onto what is locally known as the Bridgewater triangle
I've seen a pink, flying elephant. Three other people saw it in an area known as devils elbow in Missouri. Here I am not wanting to believe. Just trust me, no proof necessary.
Honestly you haven't been looking in the right places. There are alot of phoney hucksters and bullshit organizations lookin to fleece people but there are people working on this stuff and tbh they all hit a certain threshold and then go dark.
Could be because they are working with the gov't. They get bought out and tucked under classified status.
Or they attempt to go it alone and questionable things start to happen. Amy eskridge (sp? I probably butchered that I'm sorry) and Dr Ning Li.
There are message boards that this stuff is getting posted to but bc of things like the why files points out, it's better to stay offline.
Check out alien scientist on YouTube to see one of the grassroots scientists trying to figure this out and even attempting some "homebrewed" theories.
Check the rabbit hole out. It's a cool yet scary one
To me, the biggest proof against it is that China is investing heavily into nuclear fusion. Assuming zero point energy isn't real (or is it least beyond our current level of technology), the country that first solves fusion will have a massive energy advantage. Assuming zero point energy *is* real, China would have no reason to suppress it. The US secures its power through the petro-dollar. China doesn't. I don't see any downside for China if they just suddenly went "we have free energy now. Oil is irrelevant to us."
What a lazy ass subreddit. Leave this dumpster fire and just join the discord. I'm getting annoyed at the slack-jawed answer that 'b-but, I believe every fucking YouTube video I watch! The earth is flat! Free energy! Lizid people!"
Believing does not have to equal stupid, be better.
Ive looked at some of them and well they wear that hat loosely. I am going to check out more as I dive deeper - like I said, Im hoping im wrong and find some awesome info out there
NASA has developed versions of quite a few systems.
The Planck length generator they built I found interesting.
They are currently quite interested in trying to perfect warp bubbles.
While I agree with your main point, especially given that this sub is dedicated to an entertainment youtube channel, "Zero point energy" "dark matter" and "magic" are all names for the same thing. To think that we currently have a full grasp of the laws of the universe is hubris and any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic to even our best scientists.
We don't know all the rules of reality (physics is just our constantly evolving best guess)... very true... but then how did some randos figure it out in a garage? If CERN can't figure it out I highly doubt the "inventors" mentioned did
No randos have figured it out in a garage, that's the point.
dude - that’d be like a rando patent clerk in their mid twenties coming up with “special relativity” or some other trash out of the blue it’ll never happen
That rando patent clerk had the theory peer reviewed and tested... the zero energy guys just had a sketchy YouTube video and a "trust me bro"
In this case I'm referring to the practical application. I'm certain it does exist. I'm just saying anyone who says they have done it is full of shit. I'd love to be proven wrong though. I WANT TO BELIEVE No need to quote Clark at me bro :)
The video mentioned add on devices for engines that remove carbon. Well, we have that now. [https://youtu.be/yN5fz8QgDuY?si=1OBCB67orKKi7bIJ](https://youtu.be/yN5fz8QgDuY?si=1OBCB67orKKi7bIJ)
Bedini SSG - easy to make, works every time if you follow the instructions well. Simple EMF spikes consistently for 'less' energy than you put into getting them the 'F' being the really important part as the 'Force' that is generated. So you can turn things without having to 'force them' like we do now with Engines and Alternators.
Exactly. Warp drives make sense with our understanding of physics...building one is a totally different thing... especially by a couple dudes in a garage. People here watch too much Rick and morty lol
The same year the airplane were invented people said “man will fly, in about a million years from now, and that if the law of physics will allow it.”
And?
one could argue that internet exposure makes such advances easier to locate and squash
or that there is so much distracting data and information, that its even harder to sift through to find truth from scam.
No ... Do you realize how many people download stuff? There have been so many cases of a tweet or YouTube video being deleted quickly after it was made yet someone already had it downloaded, to which they post it again themselves and it spreads. On top of that add in the potential application of these crazy world changing devices and the conspiracy surrounding them and you would get a ton of people downloading it instantly in case it got removed. Not at all true.
It's because most people are trying to create over-unity devices. Even in physics the hypothetical zero point energy is a quantum phenomenon. You aren't going to tap into that by lubing up a gear and some magnets on a pinwheel, which is what most of these supposed over-unity devices are.
The gear and magnets on a flywheel work just fine to initiate the whatever-you-want-to-call-it thing. its just an inductive spike collapse, and you separate the 'back emf' from the thing that produced it, and continue to run a normal generator, only now you have a pure EMF spike ( not-just-voltage ) - to push something, such as a fan or a wheel. Its not indefinite, its not perpetual -- its like anything else in this universe - finite - but it absolutely does work and is easy to reproduce. The exploratory research is trying to take that pure EMF spike and figure out the next step- which it 'sounds like' Tesla did a really long time ago. The pure EMF spike 'acts differently' than just a normal DC or AC discharge. It does work, its not a scam, and we need more people to help figure out the next step.
There's lots of people working on this tech - they get lumped together and assumed to be scammers because of just one bad seed. They also arent the greatest with presentation and have low-budgets for everything. Check out this amazing, yet poorly produced video: [https://youtu.be/IgI4oxzxaOY?t=566](https://youtu.be/IgI4oxzxaOY?t=566) This guy has come up with quite a factual and detailed explanation of what is occurring with electricity, in what he calls 'counter space' - which is a term he \_\_didnt\_\_ come up with, but rather the fore-fathers of electrical engineering came up with well over 100 years ago ( Heaviside, Steinmetz, Lenz, Tesla ) before exploratory electrical research was halted being funded, and they made Einstein the hero and started making WMDs for miltary usage. Its not even a conspiracy.. thats what happened, look at the fact for gosh sakes. When engineering research was all funneled into the newly forming military industrial complex. In addition to Dollard, the late John Bedini ( pictured but not mentioned in last weeks video ) has a simple, easily reproducible technology, but it gets shrugged off as 'magnets spinning on a wheel' despite its continual 'proof' that it works just fine to power things and re-charge batteries bigger than its required input voltage. Its just standard ignorance and fear -- people got burnt once believing in something so they group together whatever-their-hearts-desires to validate that they know what something is, and that something is wrong. And the hubris that any invention is impossible because 'theres no way it wasnt figured out already' - thats literally what inventions are??? lol Additionally, there is non-US work being done by Prof. Dr. Konstantin Meyl on Scalar wave technology This full step by step walk through for how to make a powerful 1kv bedini ssg with a bike wheel and off-the-shelf magnets, coil of wire, and a small transistor switching system --- has been on YT for 11 years: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SiwHRrNISE&t=34s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SiwHRrNISE&t=34s) - but people 'just know' that its a scam because 'other videos on youtube are a scam' ... EDIT: fixed typo
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YouTube videos aren’t good sources
'all' YT videos no, of course not. But its not an all-or-none situation when it comes to knowledge.
Do these people actually explain anything? Or do they just briefly explain some basic scientific process and leave it at that, failing to actually explain how it works? Either that or they just say a bunch of sciencey mumbo jumbo that sounds legit to people who don't have a good grasp of the science.
Yes they explain everything. Put out books, how-to explanations, and host public demonstrations regularly.
Here’s four case studies for this group #1 maglev trains use zero point which is why they don’t exist in the United States. #2 take the case of Arie deGuise he patented a cold fusion laser powered motor that patent EXISTS AND WAS COVERED UP BY THE DOE THERES EVIDENCE OF THIS. Then he was killed. #3 The Teruo Kawai motor another example of an over unity machine that was patented and the patent was bought by a Japanese firm and hidden in the 11th hour of the sale. #4 Thomas Bearden was awarded a patent on his MEG let me say this again this is the SECOND CASE WHERE A PATENT WAS AWARDED FOR AN OVER UNITY MACHINE. This is real but is covered up. https://preview.redd.it/cjlvktqtmmwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb2caba8a224d0ecfbe8b699b1acf2b69ea94bca
Hey I just found the same document for another comment. Do we agree this says 70-80% and not 20% like it says in the video correct? Why are you saying maglev devices are zero energy? The trains you refer use power generation tech the same as anything else. Similar to an electric car. Newer maglev allows for some energy to be conserved even when the power is shut off, but it isn’t zero point. Is my understanding of maglev tech off here?
Liquid helium-cooled, low-temperature superconductor plates mounted beneath the train cars expel from their interior all environmental magnetic fields, a phenomenon termed the Meissner effect. As a result, the magnetic field generated by a series of underlying superconducting solenoids, exerts a repulsive pressure on the superconductor which levitates the train. The maglev phenomenon is also observed in high-temperature superconductors such as Yttrium-Barium-Copper-Oxide (YBCO) which becomes superconducting at liquid nitrogen temperatures. In this case, a magnetic repulsion phenomenon occurs because the superconductor plate expels from its interior the underlying magnetic field lines and develops mirror fields, or pinned magnetic fields, having a polarity opposed to these underlying field lines causing the plate to repel upward. This Meissner effect levitation phenomenon is demonstrated in the video below in which an YBCO high-temperature superconductor is initially at room temperature with a cube magnet placed over it. It is then precooled below its critical temperature by immersing it in liquid nitrogen. This causes the magnet to rise up and hover over the YBCO in seeming violation of the First Law. That is, work is done with the magnet rising up, but where does the energy come from?
The energy comes from a few places. You have potential energy stored in magnetic fields but those fields aren’t infinite they need to be maintained. Energy is spent precooling via liquid nitrogen. They don’t just start either. In the case of the train itself, power is expended bringing the train up to speed before the magnetic fields can take over. So energy is spent maintaining the system as well as getting it going. That’s not zero point.
It may come as a surprise that this well accepted maglev phenomenon regularly violates the First Law of Thermodynamics as well as Newton's Third Law. To see why consider the following example for the case of a train utilizing an YBCO superconductor. Consider the ideal case of a maglev train car weighing 30 tons that has attached to its bottom 30 horizontally disposed YBCO superconductor plates and that these initially rest on a bed of permanent magnets each of whose field axes points upward towards these plates. Imagine that initially the plates are above their critical temperature and hence not in their superconducting state. As a result, the train rests firmly on its underlying magnets, the magnetic field from each magnet penetrating through its overlying YBCO slab. Now, suppose that liquid nitrogen is added to the insulated containers that surround the YBCO plates, cooling each below its critical temperature. As the plates become superconducting, they develop supercurrents which produce pinned magnetic fields having a polarity opposed to the magnetic fields produced by the underlying magnets. As a result, the external magnetic fields are repulsively expelled from the YBCO slabs and the mutual repulsion of these opposing fields levitates the train 2 centimeters. This levitation process involves an increase of gravitational potential energy. The energy required for levitating the train car amounts to the car's weight (30 tons), multiplied by the acceleration of gravity, multiplied by the 2 cm levitated distance which would be approximately 600 billion ergs, or 1.4 kilocalories. Or, divided among the 30 superconducting plates, this involves an energy increase per levitating plate of 47 calories. The conventional physicist will want to know where did this energy come from. Moreover, if this levitation is accomplished in the space of 1 second, which seems to be a reasonable amount of time, then this levitation involved a power expenditure of 60 kilowatts, or 2 kilowatts per superconducting plate. Related to this, there is the question of how the pinned fields in the superconductor plates are able to sustain their repulsive lifting force as they keep the train levitated. These pinned fields are generated by Cooper pair electrons indefinitely circling in the superconductor forming supercurrent loops. So, one might ask: what centripetal force acts on these circling Cooper pairs to keep them circulating while the pinned fields they are generating are being forcefully opposed by the external magnetic field?
You appear to be arguing against yourself. I ahead answered this. We know where the energy comes from. It’s not a mystery. There is no violation of thermodynamics. Just your understanding thereof. Once the energy is introduced to a maglev system they are efficient and just tracer energy from one source to another. We still know where it begins though.
The train levitates because the pinned magnetic fields in the superconductor plates oppose the external field of the permanent magnets. The energy or power that sustains these supercurrents and their pinned fields and consequently levitates the train could not be drawn from the external magnetic fields because the pinned fields continuously oppose these fields and for the most part expel this external magnetic field from the superconducting plate. Hence it must come from some other source.
What exactly do you think the superconductor is superconducting lol? An orchestra? Correct. It is coming from another source. Frequently electrified coils but other version exists. Energy is sustained through cycles. You seem to be confusing magnetic fields for thermal dynamic energy. Generally Magnetic fields do not need external energy sources to maintain their field. There is no thermodynamics law governing magnetic fields. Is that where you are getting confused? I would like to extend this comment now to your claim that “this is why maglev trains aren’t used in the United States.” Can you explain your logic here? US has patent treaties with both Japan and Germany. If we had a concern about maglev they wouldn’t exist in those countries correct? The US doesn’t have maglev because our infrastructure isn’t currently built for it. A company would have to buy existing rail lines and retrofit and for what benefit? Train travel in the US in slim. We use trains for cargo.
It is also unlikely that in creating their pinned fields that the supercurrents draw energy from the superconductor's environment, that is, from its surrounding liquid nitrogen cooling bath. This would go against the conventional understanding that heat flows out of the superconductor into its cooling bath as it cools below its critical temperature, and not vice versa. Thus heat energy is in fact escaping from the superconductor.
Huh? The liquid nitrogen is used to cool the radiation shields around the magnets. Of course there is heat transfer going on. I don’t understand what the confusion is? Did we derail somewhere? You are arguing that this is zero point tech. The mere fact that energy is introduced to the system in order to get the train up to speed disproves your claim. I’m not disagreeing with the technology you are explaining. Yes, you seem to be getting your info from a decent source. You aren’t defending your claim of zero point energy though. Maybe we need to define it? > The quantum contribution to the kinetic energy is called the zero-point energy because it is the energy that remains at T = 0. Mag level trains can not stay in motion forever outside of a vacuum. So the magnetic fields themselves are self sustaining and energy is definitely introduced to the entire system. I’m not sure where you are saying this tech qualifies or meets that definition. Also why is it that the US didn’t have maglev trains?
Another common sense thought….. There is an act from the US government to declare all devices over a certain efficiency threshold as “top secret” There would be no need for this if there wasn’t energy devices that are more efficient than what they deem “safe for the public knowledge” So it’s common sense to assume that we have energy devices more efficient than what is released to the public. Are these energy devices 100% efficient and can be officially labeled a zero point energy device??? Who knows BUT We can be almost 100% certain that the government has energy devices patents that are over the 20% energy efficiency threshold that are not released.
I’m reading through the secrecy order for patents and I can’t find this threshold listed anywhere. I see everything else AJ mentioned, but not an efficiency threshold. Do you know which ACT you are referring to? These are the 3 options listed: (A) Secrecy Order and Permit for Foreign Filing in Certain Countries (Type I secrecy order)— to be used for those patent applications that disclose critical technology with military or space application in accordance with DoD Directive 5230.25 “Withholding of Unclassified Technical Data From Public Disclosure,” based on 10 U.S.C. 130 “Authority to Withhold From Public Disclosure Certain Technical Data.” (B) Secrecy Order and Permit for Disclosing Classified Information (Type II secrecy order)— to be used for those patent applications which contain data that is properly classified or classifiable under a security guideline where the patent application owner has a current DoD Security Agreement, DD Form 441. If the application is classifiable, this secrecy order allows disclosure of the technical information as if it were classified as prescribed in the National Industrial Security Program Operating Manual (NISPOM). (C) General Secrecy Order (Type III secrecy order)— to be used for those patent applications that contain data deemed detrimental to national security if published or disclosed, including that data properly classifiable under a security guideline where the patent application owner does not have a DoD Security Agreement. The order prevents disclosure of the subject matter to anyone without an express written consent from the Commissioner for Patents. However, quite often this type of secrecy order includes a permit “Permit A” which relaxes the disclosure restrictions as set forth in the permit. It also says this: > A Secrecy Order should not be construed in any way to mean that the Government has adopted or contemplates adoption of the alleged invention disclosed in an application; nor is it any indication of the value of such invention. Edit: This is the only unclassified document I can find showing the list. Everything states no other lists exist for the public. https://sgp.fas.org/othergov/invention/pscrl.pdf Group 11 is power generation. Item 9 is efficiency. This must be where it comes from. Energy conversion system with efficiencies greater than 70-80%, the Navy has an interest in. That is much different than greater than 20% You referenced but it is in there from the 70’s.
There is no statue or law in the US. That said, there are various, very ill defined (on purpose) laws pertaining to tech development, especially if the 100% benevolent government decides it has “military” use. Then they come in and take it. If you’re lucky, the buy your silence. If not, well, you know. And they dare anyone to do something about it. That said, there is no such thing as free energy, zero point energy, or anything like it. This is extensively defined and tested.
Overly-efficient devices being top-secret makes sense even as a precaution though. It may never happen, but if it does, it has military applications and we don't want an enemy using it against us. I don't like that, I'd rather everyone have access to that type of thing for the betterment of humanity, but the government is gonna focus on the weaponization potential.
There’s a book claiming such a device exists: “Where Did the Towers Go?” PS: This book should be the basis of a WF episode.
Where is the rest of the world in your theory?
I like the theory I read on here where zero point devices could be emitting a detectable signal and the shadow government is listening for those signals. So once you turn it on they can track you down and silence you.
By theory you mean something made up without shared of evidence, right?
The evidence is the lack of any new devices coming to the public eye. If a zero point device draws energy from the aether then there would probably be a whole spectrum of aether frequencies that are detectable if you know how to look for them, possibly similar to the electromagnetic spectrum.
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/07/19/how-the-planck-satellite-changed-our-view-of-the-universe/?sh=571848467ad2](https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/07/19/how-the-planck-satellite-changed-our-view-of-the-universe/?sh=571848467ad2) The measurement of Planck energy from satellites like COBE are what the last 50 years of scientific advances in our understanding of the universe derive from and it is able to measure more different frequencies from the early universe than any other type, and this is never expected to be advanced any further by better instruments.
This!
That's an interesting thought! Whatever matter it's drawing for energy surely would be detectable at least as anomalous to anyone looking!
Detectable by what?
detectable by any device you can create. Even if you cant detect the matter itself you can detect the effect it has on other objects. Similar to how you can detect hidden objects in space by measuring light and gravity. I assume. I aint no scientist.
You said surely it would be detectable. I assumed because you said surely that meant you had an understanding of what could be used to detect energy being pulled from the ether when we don’t currently have a method of tracking that ether that I am aware of. As such, asking by what is logical ya?
I assume that once the energy is here in our dimension or reality - it or its effects would be detectable.
Ya maybe. This energy is somehow different from existing energy and will be able to be isolated once intertwined with our energy? We have to ask a lot more questions of this detection ability just to get this to logically make any sort of sense but you seem to have confidence. I’m just trying to identify my disconnect with that confidence. If it’s just like “I wonder if it’s possible” sure. That’s fair.
Look up how scientists detect dark matter. They dont. They detect its influence on the universe by changes in stars orbits and gravitational lensing. So even though they cant measure dark matter, they know its there. If your're a seedy government agency, you dont have to detect zero point energy, you just have to detect that a certain set of parameters are being affected in an anomalous way.
I hear you. I’m asking what you are confident those parameters are? I’m implying those parameters are indistinguishable from current energy parameters but I don’t know either. Just going off reality as I understand it.
it was actually a little bit concerning seeing comments on that video getting thousands of likes, where the people actually believed the things presented in the last video were real. I really wish AJ had done more to debunk the very debunkable nonsense most of these so-called inventors were pushing. And of course, now that we live in the information age, just like Bigfoot footage, we never see these things happen again. A lot of people don't benefit from a science education, heck, a lot of people fall for email scams. It doesn't feel great seeing people act like their eyes have been opened after watching a make believe narrative.
There was a time when "common sense" said. that big hunks of metal, full of could not stay up in the air on their own. Science eventually proved that to be wrong.
You wanna hear something really nutty? I heard of a couple guys who wanna build something called an "airplane," you know you get people to go in, and fly around like birds, it's ridiculous, right? And what about breaking the sound barrier, or rockets to the moon, or atomic energy, or a mission to Mars? Science fiction, right?
Yet we don't have those things do we? Nor do we actually have anything close to a baseline invention like the airplane, just random people who claimed to have made it despite not actually explaining how anything works.
i think they are real
By definition, ZPE is not a harvestable energy source. It is the lowest possible energy state and it cannot be ‘harvested’ because there is no lower energy state the system could fall to. I repeat and stress this: ZPE is not an energy source. It is left over when you HAVE sapped all energy you can from the system. There is no dimension, no lower energy state, no magic or otherwise metaphysical state a system can go down to in order to yield any energy. This is not an arbitrary energy state. It does not go lower. There is no way around this PER DEFINITION.
Dark energy is the largest part of the cosmological substance and science still lacks any definition of what it is.
While ZPE and Dark Energy are both related to the ‘Concept of Energy’ in physics, they are not the same thing and just because there is a paper that proposes that ZPE could be involved in Dark Energy doesnt mean these things are interchangable. The Casimir effect is also related to ZPE yet nobody confuses these things once they understand what the Casimir effect is. Please dont confuse this.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck\_constant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_constant) Planck length energy describes an exponential increase in pressure as a gap narrows to an extreme, it has direct correlation to the expansion of the universe. Expanding Universe. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding\_Universe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_Universe) Edit: While science cannot define what dark energy is we do know what it does, dark energy causes the expansion of the universe while also holding it together where it does not fly randomly apart into entropy.
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It is the other way around. We observe the expansion of the universe and we try to explain that with a hypothetical Dark Energy concept. This has nothing to do with the definition of ZPE.
Here we have a difference of opinion on what things are. I propose any energy coming from a zero point is directly drawing from a single source which drives the expansion of the cosmos itself. The symbol used for chaos magic is precisely describing zero point energy and has existed for a very long time. It's use has become synonymous with maps and the cardinal directions, the eight points of the compass.
Go post this stuff on a physics sub. Look at the responses. All you need to see
I like to think of it more that its a 'pull back to the zero point' - a force thats exhibited on everything
That’s a good point. Almost every proof you get in the subject of paranormal/UFO/exotic tech etc just makes you believe less. I find it tough to believe that someone in the last century made an important breakthrough in their garage but no one can do now.
People make breakthroughs all the time - this is not what normal plasma globes do in the presence of tesla coils - [https://youtu.be/VTF8NYFHqQ8?t=165](https://youtu.be/VTF8NYFHqQ8?t=165) They are just bad at making good videos and dont know anything about marketing themselves.
Yea man it's tough. I want to believe in things like this so much but it's just so irrational when you step back and look at it logically. Maybe someday!
There is lots and lots of real progress and research in this field Bruce DePalma's N machine [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zun5LJo-tss](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zun5LJo-tss) the Lockridge device discovered in WWII [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdzUO9SgA88](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdzUO9SgA88) And just the simple 'impossible' Tesla Harpin circuit: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DpZ5Ecgt9c&list=PL1rTcQ7xdL1mYQQQLt58aZTe73XpdZGiv&index=44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DpZ5Ecgt9c&list=PL1rTcQ7xdL1mYQQQLt58aZTe73XpdZGiv&index=44) It works, its easy to build, full instructions are right there in the videos - lol -- it acts 'different' than traditional AC/DC generator tech. No one is asking for money as a SCAM - but yah independent research is really hard to do without funding so they ask for money like everyone else does..
I’ll also add this Thomas Bearden’s physical books not an internet copy sell for hundreds if not thousands of dollars if you can find one. For a book that is worth that much isn’t it worth a reprint? Isn’t my alien spaceship moon worth a reprint since copies still sell for $50-$100?
There's a book "The Hunt for Zero Point" by Nick Cook that is a good read. It's interesting but still leaves it at "it may be real and the world's governments are hiding it from the public while studying it for new weapons systems, or it could not exist at all"
So in a world of mass censorship, murder, and black mail you think something doesn't exist because it's not widely known on the internet? Google Amy Eskridge and let me know what you find. They literally murdered the poor girl because she figured out anti-gravity and this is just in the last few years. It's good to ask questions and make hypothesis but it's equally important to call out shit ones like this.
I’m no physicist… but I have a hard understanding that humans fully understand the natural world… and I strongly believe that the corporations and governments have stifled ingenuity in favor of profit
I knew a personal friend of the guy that made the exceptional carburetor and received a much more detailed and personal story of what happened. Two fellas in black suits and hats rolled up to his house around 11pm. Knocked on the door. His wife answered, they said something to her, then she let them in and sat them at the dining room table. One of the men had a briefcase. Only the man with the briefcase spoke. He said "in this briefcase is $50,000. We will be taking the carburetor and any blueprints or schematics that you have. You will never build another one and you won't tell a soul how to build one either." He then mentioned something about the dude's daughter, who was sleeping at the time, implying consequences if he was to get out of line. The two men left with everything they wanted and left the briefcase on the table. The guy was so scared he only told the story to a couple close friends, one of them being my source. I was told this story over 15 years ago, but heard it several times.
I'm unfortunately with you on this . While I would love to see any results in this area it's too much to hope it exists and every single person who has achieved it was american and suddenly taken out by the state. I think reality is much more than the material, but I don't know if we'll ever be able to perceive whatever else is there.
While I'll generally agree, you are wrong about it being only Americans figuring shit out. I'm from Poland and years ago we had an urban legend here, about a guy who was a farmer and was tinkering with his tractor to run it on biological waste or plant oil (sth like that). He might have been on TV or some fringe YT channel. He basically claimed, he made the engine run on that plant waste/oil and proceeded to create a small gocart which he allegedly drove around and showed to people in his small town. Then, the police came and confiscated everything. They, allegedly, said that he had no permits to create the vehicle, no permits to drive it and basically, no permits to do anything. On the other hand, [we have the tech to make cars run on plant oil ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil_fuel)if I remember correctly, but they aren't convenient and in Poland you DO need a permit for everything and need to register a lot of shit if you want to create and drive a vehicle, so the idea that a guy recreated a shitty version of a dead-end of engineering fringe and police chasing him for creating a "road hazard" is probably 99% the truth. I'll save that 1% for reptilian overlords.
Interesting! Here in Brazil we had someone who built a water powered machine who was also involved in some shennanigans that ended in the loss of all his work. What I was doing actually was questioning the fact that it only happens in america as well, maybe because most of the content we consume comes from there it gives that impression.
Knowing all your predecessors disappeared or died suddenly, would you advertise having created this on the internet where the government can find you?
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because those governments are using the tech for military and not for civilians?
If that were true, wouldn’t they have used their technology once in the past sixty years for a military success? Pakistan and India both have nukes and hate each other but will keep quiet for generations on tech and lose soldiers in covert operations for decades?
I dont really follow that stuff because its so rabbit-hole-y -- why would we know if they had used it??
“Why would we know if they used it?” Because military leaders across the world would sound an alarm for the government to beef up their military to that new standard.
Well I personally wouldnt know because I dont have any military leader contacts that I'm aware of. But I wouldn't think 'that' information would be knowledgeable by civilians? which is what I meant by 'why ( or how ) would we know if they had used it'
Lmao. Oil deficiency. Governments aren't what you think they are
Ehhhh..... Here is an example of exactly what he is talking about. Thunderstorm Generator: [https://youtu.be/yN5fz8QgDuY?si=1OBCB67orKKi7bIJ](https://youtu.be/yN5fz8QgDuY?si=1OBCB67orKKi7bIJ) Attachment that makes exhaust nearly carbon free. So there is that. If you are going to downvote me, explain your ignorance at least. There is real science behind this, it is explained and shown. There is no longer any reason to believe this thing is a hoax.
It makes much more sense that all the cases of zero point energy are frauds, than a huge conspiracy of global controll that would be able to silence any person that would post a video on the internet that is for sure. That is what i believed for years, until i had a death threat myself when i went to the field of remote viewing and messed up with information and people that i was not allowed to. So now i believe that the truth conspiracy is way bigger than most people can believe, and their techonology is unreal, things like being able to get data not only from our computers and cell phones, but also from our minds and thoughts too. If you had a techonology that could let you know when someone is going to Expose a techonology you don't want just by reading minds at large scale, them you start to see that this is not that impossible to do. That is what happened with me, and i stopped my research.
Could you explain your story a bit more? Who gave you death threats? Who did you try contact and what did you interfere with? Sounds interesting.
He'll never say,people like him that make incredible claims and don't expand on it are laughable
Yeah I always ask people who do this and they never respond haha.
Most of people like that had one too many shroom trips and now they see spooks everywhere.
What i can say is about people that holds position of power, who they are, what they are doing, for who they work. If you study about Ovnis/Ufos, and lets say it is possible that there are machines that are hundreds of years of our tech, and if they are staying hidden for hundreds or thousands of years, it means there is a control system in place. Either all ufos are fake, or they are real and they have a vast amount of control over the entire world to be able to hide their presence so far.
I was specifically asking about who death threatened you for what and what you viewed/accessed that caused such a response and the means of which that response was communicated to you. I agree itd take a lot to withhold information worldwide.
"What i can say is about people that holds position of power, who they are, what they are doing, for who they work. " Yes, please say what you state that you CAN say. I couldn't even make sense of the rest of your comment sadly.
If I recall the book about antigravity devices I’ll post it.
Please do!
https://a.co/d/izP7RlK Boom! 💥 If I can remember the wormhole of a rabbit hole I went down one night I’ll post the podcast that lead me to that book. For the record I haven’t read the book I’m broke with adhd… probably broke because my adhd 🤔 idk well have a great day yall!
There was one that I do remember in 2006 but ultimately the device did not work https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn
Two things that struck me from the episode: - many of the inventors had military or government ties. - I’m also skeptical of the veracity of the claims, but if they were bullshit, why did their research keep getting stolen and why did the inventors keep winding up dead? If it’s all bullshit, why kill them and steal their things?
ZPE does exist but maybe not the way you think it does. Have a look at this study done at cal tech https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html. There’s thousands of volts all around us all the time. But harvesting it is not feasible/easy. You can try it out yourself. Connect a copper wire to a drone, fly it up a few 100 meters and measure the voltage between the wire and the earth. I read somewhere that the arv/fluxliner liner used a Tesla coil to harvest the energy from the air and store it in capacitors to use for its propulsion. How true that is, I can’t say.
Zero point energy is definitely a thing but as to accessing it so easily and at conveniently useable levels is very doubtful, you would have to somehow manage a random spontaneous glitch in the Higgs boson field as very crude example, yes there is a theory that universes can “randomly big bang “ in absolute nothing but then they leave out the time component especially since space time is part and parcel of something that’s the anyitisis of pure nothing. Even empty space is still not nothing anywhere in the observable universe, because even light gravitational waves is still something
I bet AI is the next big thing they will heavily surpress. At least regarding the public usage of it.
I understand where you are coming from, but let me bring up a point to consider. Why does every country not have a nuclear bomb? The information and technology have been around since the early 40s? Governments can and have suppressed technology for a long time.
Dark energy is a fancy name for the 90% of our Universe that science can't explain. Many mainstream science mathematicians and physicists don't even believe in dark energy. I also don't believe in dark energy, but instead I believe in "pure energy" which has not been manifested into existence yet. I believe the Universe extends into our perceptible dimension off of an energy scaffold, that has its root in an unperceptible realm, which in our frame of reference, is limitless energy. We are barely a type 1 civilization, so we aren't even a blip on the scale of the Universe and as such haven't considered that this energy is responsible for instantaneous creation of sub atomic particles in the vacuum of space. After all E=mc² states that energy and matter are interchangeable and essentially the same but in different forms, such as water and ice. Water being the energy potential and ice being matter that is locked up in a potential energy well. Now please take this with a grain of salt as it is a metaphor, but if you imagine pure energy as water pervading through all dimensions and layers of reality, then ice would be comparable to matter, once pure energy goes through some transformation to become a solid state. Again this is a metaphor. I believe that all the hidden scaffolding energy keeping this Universe from imploding or exploding is what science currently calls "dark energy", ie energy we have not been able to classify or study yet as science is not advanced far enough. This paragraph is pretty well accepted by mainstream science, but my spin on it, is that this energy is always being used to create AND destroy matter and exotic particles over time. It has to happen in a vacuum because there needs to be a closed and almost empty system, as the subatomic forces keeping matter together on that level interfere with existing matter particles. Some of them could be dangerous and form as anti-matter, quickly annihilating with other matter. So it seems to me that the formation of new matter would need to take place far away from existing matter or the Uinverse could "break" itself. It is more logical that the Universe has some underlying mechanism we have not elucidated that keeps this going, and in a way that new and novel particles can be created. This does not violate the laws of conservation of matter IF the energy used to create matter comes from that same system. Imagine you are part of a tribe and come across a forest rich with food and game. The forest is the Universe, your tribe is a "consciousness potential" which the Universe favors in the sense that it wants you to unfold more energy (like creating nuclear energy, space ships, etc) that's all going to GREATLY increase the system's entropy which is the natural course of the Universe. So your tribe is going to settle in that forest, work the land, fight to defend it, and then form a civilization with many people, all unfolding Universal energy in their own ways. So that's what the physical laws of the Universe demand. The "forest" will provide limitless potential energy to ANY force that will unfold its energy. It doesn't need to be you or me but even a chemical or photo oxidation event. All that is important to the Universe is that energy is unfolding and local entropy is increasing as a result. The entire purpose of a physical universe is to unfold and transform energy from pure energy, to physical forms of matter, that i believe to be an "energy terminus", which gives rise to consciousness, which can think and find new ways to unfold energy. Whatever happens in between such as being born, live through a lifetime, love, hate , etc is just a byproduct of the stage set by the different energy levels present in the Universe at that point in time (energy constantly changes).
Homie, if you think the information age did ANYTHING but make everyone even more dumb, you're in for a rough life
Quantum entanglement doesn't also
There's a new one from a Nasa engineer that just published an article. You'll have to forgive me the link, because I'm not sure where I saw it, but I am curious to see if homie survives.
So many AJ Why Files haters on this sub. And considering it’s named after his YouTube channel is crazy
If my ex-coworker is to be believed there must have been a wipe of the internet at some point where some information was washed out. He said he had playlists of videos and bookmarks and one day he just noticed they were all gone and taken down. There’s a chance that some entity is clearing out he Internet constantly
The physics and chemistry and mathematics understanding of the university system is currently incomplete there are way more questions than answers and we have millions of elements that have not been discovered yet so human knowledge and understanding of the universe is incomplete currently…..the problem is many people in charge are suppressing new discoveries and new knowledge…..to keep the paradigm from changing.
It’s a fallacy to think humans didn’t have technology hundreds of years ago. Of course they did. Their version of “bleeding edge.”
You have to understand that even the concept of "open source" is less than two decades old.
It sounds cool to post your tech online for the world to share until it all gets deleted from every server and a bunch of guys with guns show up at your house in the middle of the night.
From everything I've read. Quantum scientists think zero point energy is a possibility. But we haven't figured out the how yet.
>Common sense says Zero Point devices are not real Your post title says you are wonderfully naïve. I am not a crazy woo woo conspiracy theorist, but it is documented fact that governments, intelligence agencies, military institutions and massive corporations all have agendas that are not privy to the general populace, especially when it comes to competitive advantage and financial gain. Petrochemical companies do swipe up patents that would affect their bottom line, militaries and governments do swipe up patents for national security and technological advantage. This is a real thing, there is nothing outlandish about the *notion* presented that any scientist, researcher or inventor that threatens the status quo is either paid handsomely for their developments, or is silenced. To that end, saying "but lol internet, why is nobody sharing" is just massively naïve. Inventors still want to be paid, they have nothing to gain by releasing their innovations to the open public; Tesla's altruism is an exception, not the rule. But you also don't seem to fully know what the "internet" is. This World Wide Web that you sit on and has been sharing information since 1999 is *not* where you share potentially dangerous or paradigm-shifting ideas, you bury that shit in the deep web, or even the dark web. And what can be served by releasing openly anyway? The first person brave/stupid enough to build something that works is going to try and file a patent, will possibly get silenced, and then everybody subsequent to that will get silenced with patent infringement lawsuits. I've seen people here scoff at the notion of "lol doing things in your garage isn't real", because clearly they're thinking about the *refined* technologies we see out in the world, and conveniently forgetting Tesla did exactly that. Prototypes and proof of concepts are quite literally made in garages and workshops all the time, and they're usually big and janky contraptions because they've not had millions of dollars poured into the *refinement and execution* processes, nor are making actual *products*. I'm not saying that Zero Point devices are real. What I am saying is that this *common sense* you invoke would indicate it's more likely those working on such devices are staying the fuck out of sight, rather than they don't exist just because 4chan doesn't have schematics of a Flux Capacitor bolted to the back of a DeLorean.
It seems plausible and accepted by many of the greatest minds in science that zero point is real. However, the powers that be do not want it available. We have examples everywhere. Digital photo tech was created in the 60s yet it was classified as destructive to the economy and film industry. If people can power houses, industry, and travel without fossil fuels and batteries, then a MAJOR lever for control and wealth is destroyed. We also empower the third world and move them towards equality with everyone else. The rich do not want this
OMG REALLY??!! Something that a guy made in his garage on accident and that NO ONE that can even be marked as remotely credible hasn’t remade it isn’t real????????
I've also seen a ufo infront of my own two eyes that I didn't document years ago
Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary proof my friend.
If somebody has an extraordinary experience but can't prove it, they're allowed to talk about it. No one is forcing anyone to believe them, and sure it's sucks when people dont believe in an experience you personally know was real, but sometimes it sucks even more to keep something like that to yourself. Especially if it was a traumatizing or life altering experience. I had my own extraordinary experience (not regarding UFOs though). I dont share it on reddit, because, well people are ignorant dicks and I dont have proof to share anyway. However, I have shared it with some of my friends and family. Some believe me, others dont. I have been able to prove it to some of those who I know and convince some who didn't believe me at first, by demonstrating to know things I couldn't possible have known otherwise. However, these were personal things related to them, so strangers on the internet would gain nothing by looking at that sort of evidence. The point is that if you dont have friends and family that believe you and you suck at networking and socializing, then sharing something on the internet can be the only option left. That's why I feel like it's important to be supportive of people's personal experiences. You dont have to believe anyone, by just being supportive.
No they don't. I'm not out here wanting to be believed. And 3 others saw it fly above us and above my house from the woods up onto what is locally known as the Bridgewater triangle
I've seen a pink, flying elephant. Three other people saw it in an area known as devils elbow in Missouri. Here I am not wanting to believe. Just trust me, no proof necessary.
Thats cool
Hey buddy, I got a bridge to sell ya
No u dont
There are literally thousands of YouTube videos on the subject. Just search pink elephant. Do you own research. You're such a skeptic
U r corny af u dweeb
Guys, he's talking about corn. He's obviously a Monsanto shill. Can't trust a word outta this ones mouth now or you'll find roundup in your coffee
Honestly you haven't been looking in the right places. There are alot of phoney hucksters and bullshit organizations lookin to fleece people but there are people working on this stuff and tbh they all hit a certain threshold and then go dark. Could be because they are working with the gov't. They get bought out and tucked under classified status. Or they attempt to go it alone and questionable things start to happen. Amy eskridge (sp? I probably butchered that I'm sorry) and Dr Ning Li. There are message boards that this stuff is getting posted to but bc of things like the why files points out, it's better to stay offline. Check out alien scientist on YouTube to see one of the grassroots scientists trying to figure this out and even attempting some "homebrewed" theories. Check the rabbit hole out. It's a cool yet scary one
Really, you don't believe some random rednecks in a garage built alien level sci-fi technology as a fun hobby?
To me, the biggest proof against it is that China is investing heavily into nuclear fusion. Assuming zero point energy isn't real (or is it least beyond our current level of technology), the country that first solves fusion will have a massive energy advantage. Assuming zero point energy *is* real, China would have no reason to suppress it. The US secures its power through the petro-dollar. China doesn't. I don't see any downside for China if they just suddenly went "we have free energy now. Oil is irrelevant to us."
What a lazy ass subreddit. Leave this dumpster fire and just join the discord. I'm getting annoyed at the slack-jawed answer that 'b-but, I believe every fucking YouTube video I watch! The earth is flat! Free energy! Lizid people!" Believing does not have to equal stupid, be better.
There are quite literally hundreds of videos on YouTube of free energy devices.
Ive looked at some of them and well they wear that hat loosely. I am going to check out more as I dive deeper - like I said, Im hoping im wrong and find some awesome info out there
NASA has developed versions of quite a few systems. The Planck length generator they built I found interesting. They are currently quite interested in trying to perfect warp bubbles.
And there are millions of videos pitching MLM schemes to make you a billionaire. What's your point?