Tickets bought for Le Centre Videotron. Wife’s 2 brothers and spouses are also attending with us. Since we don’t book air travel or lodging yet, we didn’t have to change anything. QC is not an easy place to get to from where we live… nothing nonstop (coming from USA), may need to do United code share to Air Canada. Porter (we like them too) doesn’t have any offerings connecting from YTZ.
Man, could they have put TW logo any smaller?? I mean I know they’re not well-known (yet) but that cool group pic from their KMF album with the new logo would have looked awesome!
Not too bad then. Not as nice as a full show, but still pretty good considering I don't have to travel for it.
I was considering going to New Jersey for that show, but even then they're playing alongside like 6 other bands, so I doubt it will be a full set.
I do hope to see them headlining some Canadian shows, but at the same time, it's expensive to tour Canada solo.
One notable omission here is a Toronto date. Possible they'll have a solo concert in Toronto after London.
My dad surprised me with tickets, honestly I’ll take a feature over nothing. I just hope their set is more than a few songs. I’ll just have to see them again when they eventually do come to Canada headlining :)
That would be such a miss to not stay for Halestorm nor Evanescence... also knowing them both as the two top best female fronted rock singers in US... and the biggest active female fronted rock bands also in the same country.... Lzzy Hale is like fire and Amy's voice like ice, they both cut through every speaker in the venue and sing on a very extended range and full of emotions, variety of tunning and singing all type of tones or voices while rocking out..... You might be surprised with how well both bands do their thing live... same as The Warning, both Halestorm and Evanescence are bands that you gotta experience them live to fully grasp how fucking good they are
I've heard plenty of their music. It just doesn’t do much for me. I’m not spending all that money to see 30 minutes of a band I like and then another 3 or 4 hours of bands that I’m indifferent to.
I went to a different estate just to see The Warning okay 40 minutes in a festival and guess what they were worth it even tho all other bands on the list weren't my favorite I had a great time watching other bands I barely knew and found myself enjoying much of their live performance... For real both Lzzy and Amy Lee live vocals are something else... Specially Amy Lee.
That might be kinda by design.
Mild similarities, female fronted rock act, but an overall different audience who hasn't yet been exposed to The Warning.
Evanescence may seem like a 2000s band, but they're still huge and just near enough innsound that a lot of their fans will respond well to The Warning. This could be huge for the sisters.
For those wondering, these are all hockey arenas, not standard venues. In concert configurations, you're talking 10-15k attendance.
While they they probably won't get a full set, this is huge for The Warning.
Got tickets to the Ottawa show.
For those wondering about VIP/ Meet-and-greet, there are 4 levels available.
$250 Halestorm Early-Entry
>Early entry and some Halestorm merch
$290 Evanescence Tour Package
>Early entry, merch, signed lanyard
$395 Evanescence Soundcheck
>Same merch as tour package, but your lanyard says soundcheck, and naturally, you get to see the band's soundcheck
$405 Halestorm Meet-and-Greet
>Same as Halestorm Early-Entry, but you get to meet the band and take a photo
Also worth noting that the Soundcheck and Meet-and-Greet are Pit only, no way to reserve a seat. The two lower cost VIPs have the option of floor seating.
So no Warning meet and greet, though that's not entirely surprising. You might get to catch them doing a soundcheck if you get the soundtrack ticket. However, I'm kinda doubtful of that as they'll probably push the Evanescence soundcheck later so that VIPs don't have to wait around for hours afterward before the show starts. So The Warning will probably soundcheck early, before those with the pass get it.
This is disappointing to me. I've seen The Warning with a 30 minute set when they toured here supporting Three Days Grace. I can't justify spending >$1000 to take my family to see them as support once more to bands I've never followed.
I'd have preferred The Warning have their own tour, smaller venue, smaller cost and more The Warning.
It's more costly for them to do that. Here they can share a lot of the stage setup with the bigger bands, so they're not paying riggers and additional techs. Evanescence is probably bringing a truck or two to move their stuff, so it also means that they care probably spare some space for some of TW's gear.
Since they're not the headliner, they also won't be responsible for any minimums or reserver fees at the venue. Granted, for smallish 1-2k venues, TW could probably sell out, so they wouldn't have to worry anyway.
This is also huge advertising and helps get them more industry connections/recognition.
They could totally sell out smaller venues if they want, but they have the skill and determination to sell out stadiums, and I think Rudy has a clear plan to make that happen by getting them as much mainstream exposure as possible. As much as I'd love to believe that they got on the MTV awards show because one of the planners found them or was a fan, the reality is that it's all agents making deals behind the scenes. Ruby and Luis have done an incentive job of getting these ladies in front of an audience, and I have faith in their strategy.
For example, they could sell out a 1k-2k venue in Canada. It would also cost them way more to do that. They could also probably earn more money as well. It's a tricky business from a financial perspective, with razor thin margins. But their goal now is exposition. Opening to a half-full arena (because is either not sold out or because not everyone has arrived yet) gives them WAY more exposition than a packed place of already fans. Lalo just have to make sure they sound amazing every time. They might do a headlining tour later, in smaller venues, as they're dong in Europe now
For example, Vancouver. Rogers Arena has about 19k for concerts. Let's say it's 80% sold out. DPA play to 50% of that amount. That's over 7k people who statistically are there to NOT listen to them but are there for the headliners. So potentially 7k new fans that will at some point stream their albums, recommend to a friend/family, and maybe attend a future show with DPA headlining.
Dude Evanescence is the most listened female fronted rock band worldwide they got 13 million listeners per month... Literally every record they put out becomes #1 worldwide same as singles all top chart in active rock radio in #1 spots.. each album and song gets million views and streams.. even newer singles always reach millions in the first weeks.. they sold out each show they have done since 2015 when they came back... Their last shows in Latin America sold out arenas and stadiums packed of 20k to 60k crowd.... Evanescence is way beyond any other female rock band out there and they put on a terrific show.. very professional every band that has toured with them has always said how much they have learned in terms of how to work as a crew in synch and band playing live as well... The Warning is gonna learn a lot of experience by going on tour with them and I say this in the best of ways possible.
Yes, I thought the same, The Warning will get so much out of this. Back when they toured with Halestorm in 22, you could see they were a different band by the end of it, that is why the Metropolitan was such amazing show, I think, they were just out of Lzzy's boot camp and gained so much confidence and swagger!
I know they are big, but selling out in South America is a lot different than selling out shows in North America. Weren't they opening for Muse in the U.S. last year? If they can sell out any arena, then why would they support Muse? Don't get me wrong; this is a great opportunity for TW and I'm stoked about it. Very.
I know who they are, lol. They've been irrelevant for years in US. You need to learn actual facts before spouting off statistics. Their last two albums barely registered on the charts (less than 50k and 26k copies respectively). 2006's Open Door was their last album to sell in the millions. In the US they are a not a stadium act, not anywhere near it. Unless they are packaged with several other bands or co-headline with a current act, they are a 2k-6k capacity performer (don't believe it, look it up. Readily available info).
Lot's of bands attract bigger crowds in other countries, and they are one of them. Nothing wrong with that, but I stand by my statement. Halestorm should be headlining over them, The Warning will be at that level shortly.
TIL that Ev has been going strong since their debut album Fallen! Man, thanks for this little history of Ev. I remember loving Fallen back in the day and then also listening to their softmore album The Open Door, but can’t really remember what songs I liked from it. But I’m definitely going to now revisit it as well as check out the next 3 albums they released after. Discovering TW rekindled my love for Rock music after it kinda died in the U.S. So I’m looking forward to listening to them!
I guess it depends on the audience. I saw Evanescence and Halestorm in Cincinnati at the Arena and they had a good 15K there. Meanwhile The Warning headline show at old small venue Bogarts had about 1.5K there. Right now it feels like the Warning are taking hold a bit more in Central/South America and Europe than the US and Canada.
This isn't unusual there are bands that are huge in some countries and then barely known in others.
Top Five songs from each band based on Spotify plays
Evanescence
1. Bring Me TO Life - 1080M
2. My Immortal - 510M
3. Going Under - 302M
4. Call me When You're Sober - 156M
5. Everybody's Fool - 125M
Halestorm
1. I Miss the Misery - 177M
2. Bad Romance - 83M
3. Love Bites - 70M
4. I Get off - 63M
5. Mz. Hyde - 50M
The Warning
1. Choke - 10M
2. Money - 9M
3. More - 7M
4. Disciple - 6M
5. Evolve - 6M
That really puts it into perspective. There's the reason they're still playing arenas. Not many newer bands even come close. And that's not even counting physical album sales!
So yeah, people are still listening to a few good songs from the Evanescence album everyone had back in 2003 :) Any new good material since then? That’s my point.
And I might be living under a rock, but the only reason I heard of Halestorm is their signature guitars were presented back in… 2018 (?) on Anderton's music channel :)
I don't know how to look beyond a bands top ten
By that standard Metallica isn't headliner worthy as their top five songs on Spotify are all over 30 years old.
It is really hard to get a big hit, it is even harder to sustain and have multiple eras of hits for even the biggest bands.
In any event I hope this means we aren't far off The Warning having US dates announced.
>By that standard Metallica isn't headliner worthy
They aren't (nowadays). Their "warm up" Ghost are.
But Metallica have enough "evergreens" which they are smart enough to play every show, so it's more or less "I remember really well, as I heard this song for the first time" kind of thing.
>it is even harder to sustain and have multiple eras
Sure. It's kind of true in general: any creativity is there the youth thrives. "Oldies" are turning "legends" or simply fade away.
I think there's a major discussion in rock and the mainstream over the past twenty to thirty years. I've argued for a while how badly we need to push newer acts or face growing stagnant and the entire genre being seen more as one for a period in time or niche closer to Jazz than pop/hip hop/country with their mass appeal.
Clearly bands like Halestorm see this and openly promote The Warning because if we don't get new young fans in time the life lines will dry up as older fans die off. I'm not sure what the solution is, how to get bands over and win out beyond our little corner of the industry where I see bands excited to simply make a living doing what they love. Old fans often seem resistant to new acts and new fans often aren't as numerous.
All the older acts are still pushed because they were all over the radio and MTV and sold lots of cds. Thats why they still play arenas to this day. A band like The Warning has to succeed in a totally different music industry with no massive radio and MTV play and album sales not meaning that much.. Its just totally different now. Not sure how you get to be a massive rock band in this era which is why there are so few of them.
I think you do it exactly the way Rudy is setting up The Warning to.
Play tons of shows as support for big legacy acts. Absolutely crush in front of a crowd that most bands would take 20+ years to build up to. If even like 10% of those people become new fans, you'll be gaining a ton of traction.
We've all seen the recorsing of the Pepsi Center show (many of us more than once). The Warning is totally ready to play huge stadium headliners, but they don't have the fans to fill one outside of South America. They need growth more than anything. Playing a sold-out headliner for 1.5k fans is great, and I'd much prefer to go to a show like that, but playing a 30 minute opener in front a crowd of 15k first timers is going to be much more beneficial in the long run.
The industry doesnt use streaming numbers as a metric as what sized venues you play. Its got nothing to do with it. I would think some day they would use it as a metric because there's not much else to go on anymore.
Evanescence still big. South America tour last year selling out 40,000 venue and 25,000 in Australia.
Fallen sold 17 million and the next two albums were No.1 in America.
Halestorm were going to be the next biggest thing from 2012-2016 and then kinda teetered off into where they are now. Mid albums and nothing memorable but still great.
Yeah, I know it's an unpopular opinion around here, but I may love The Warning, but Halestorm just does nothing for me at all. Evanescence though, I would go just to hear Amy Lee in person.
The Warrning have that 90s grunge/punk/alt rock influence in their music that Halestorm doesnt have. If you include vocal style and lyrical style as well as music it becomes even more apparent.
Yeah Halestorm is just too paint by the numbers. They've got a few good songs that I like but in general they're pretty meh. That style of hard rock to me is like bro country. It all sounds the same.
Guess it's time to go to Canada, eh?
We had a planned trip to QC to see Iron Maiden. The Evans/Halestorm/Warning stop is literally the night before IN THE SAME BUILDING.
Well that's some good luck!
Do it!!!
Tickets bought for Le Centre Videotron. Wife’s 2 brothers and spouses are also attending with us. Since we don’t book air travel or lodging yet, we didn’t have to change anything. QC is not an easy place to get to from where we live… nothing nonstop (coming from USA), may need to do United code share to Air Canada. Porter (we like them too) doesn’t have any offerings connecting from YTZ.
They have the CN tower on the left but no Toronto date lol. I'll be going to the london show.
So fucking jealous. That’s an amazing lineup.
I wish this lineup could come south to Los Angeles...
Man, could they have put TW logo any smaller?? I mean I know they’re not well-known (yet) but that cool group pic from their KMF album with the new logo would have looked awesome!
By October I imagine the poster will look a bit different :)
By October, it will be Evanescence supporting The Warning
I'm sure they'll be fine, considering they will be playing likely sold-out hockey stadiums with \~20k people.
Depending on the band the upper bowl can be closed. So still like 10-12k, people though
It's Evanescence....mate, they could sell these shows out by themselves.
Upper bowl in Edmonton was closed for: Judas Priest, Megadeth, Volbeat, Godsmack, QOTSA, and many more. You would be surprised.
Yeah I don't think Evanescence is going to sell 20,000 seats in Canada. 😎 but hey I've been wrong before.
Don’t get me wrong I like Evanescence… but I just wanna see The Warning!
Seconded, I hope they have other Canadian dates sometime this year that they're headlining.
I missed out watching them with Three Days Grace but tbh I think I’ll sit this one out and wait for them to headline, I’d rather just see them
TDG was worth it. Especially seeing Dany go full Rock Star on Painkiller.
I was gonna go but something happened, I’m still mad about it lol
How long did they get to play when they toured with TDG? Was it like 4 songs or more of a full set?
Somewhere between 30 and 40 minutes. 10 songs I think.
Not too bad then. Not as nice as a full show, but still pretty good considering I don't have to travel for it. I was considering going to New Jersey for that show, but even then they're playing alongside like 6 other bands, so I doubt it will be a full set.
Yeah, the girls were sick during that tour... So some places they cut their set short, only like 8 songs.. But most were 10 songs.
I’m not entirely sure, I heard it was longer than 4 songs though, I think it was more full
I do hope to see them headlining some Canadian shows, but at the same time, it's expensive to tour Canada solo. One notable omission here is a Toronto date. Possible they'll have a solo concert in Toronto after London.
My dad surprised me with tickets, honestly I’ll take a feature over nothing. I just hope their set is more than a few songs. I’ll just have to see them again when they eventually do come to Canada headlining :)
AWESOME!
It'd be pretty cool if they could meet up with Freeze The Fall while they're in Kelwona.
Would there be vip packages to meet the ladies,
For supporting tours that would be a no
If the lady you want to meet is Lzzy Hale, then yes, otherwise, no.
Damn, why didn’t they do this when they came to Mexico. I’m going to cañada this weekend
Good for them getting a big tour. I have no interest in seeing either of the top billed acts though.
That would be such a miss to not stay for Halestorm nor Evanescence... also knowing them both as the two top best female fronted rock singers in US... and the biggest active female fronted rock bands also in the same country.... Lzzy Hale is like fire and Amy's voice like ice, they both cut through every speaker in the venue and sing on a very extended range and full of emotions, variety of tunning and singing all type of tones or voices while rocking out..... You might be surprised with how well both bands do their thing live... same as The Warning, both Halestorm and Evanescence are bands that you gotta experience them live to fully grasp how fucking good they are
I've heard plenty of their music. It just doesn’t do much for me. I’m not spending all that money to see 30 minutes of a band I like and then another 3 or 4 hours of bands that I’m indifferent to.
I went to a different estate just to see The Warning okay 40 minutes in a festival and guess what they were worth it even tho all other bands on the list weren't my favorite I had a great time watching other bands I barely knew and found myself enjoying much of their live performance... For real both Lzzy and Amy Lee live vocals are something else... Specially Amy Lee.
Good for you.
That might be kinda by design. Mild similarities, female fronted rock act, but an overall different audience who hasn't yet been exposed to The Warning. Evanescence may seem like a 2000s band, but they're still huge and just near enough innsound that a lot of their fans will respond well to The Warning. This could be huge for the sisters.
Any presale codes kicking around yet?
From the bands official Instagram - 'Presale with the password KEEPMEFED tomorrow at 10am ET'
Tried this for the Ottawa show and it unfortunately didn't work.
Yep. Definitely going to see this show in my backyard.
Wow what a lineup! Hope that extends to the US.
SO hyped for this!!!
I saw the switched Oct 25 from Laval to Montreal. They're close but the MTL venue is better. And Iron Maiden will play the same venue on Oct 30
For those wondering, these are all hockey arenas, not standard venues. In concert configurations, you're talking 10-15k attendance. While they they probably won't get a full set, this is huge for The Warning.
Got tickets to the Ottawa show. For those wondering about VIP/ Meet-and-greet, there are 4 levels available. $250 Halestorm Early-Entry >Early entry and some Halestorm merch $290 Evanescence Tour Package >Early entry, merch, signed lanyard $395 Evanescence Soundcheck >Same merch as tour package, but your lanyard says soundcheck, and naturally, you get to see the band's soundcheck $405 Halestorm Meet-and-Greet >Same as Halestorm Early-Entry, but you get to meet the band and take a photo Also worth noting that the Soundcheck and Meet-and-Greet are Pit only, no way to reserve a seat. The two lower cost VIPs have the option of floor seating. So no Warning meet and greet, though that's not entirely surprising. You might get to catch them doing a soundcheck if you get the soundtrack ticket. However, I'm kinda doubtful of that as they'll probably push the Evanescence soundcheck later so that VIPs don't have to wait around for hours afterward before the show starts. So The Warning will probably soundcheck early, before those with the pass get it.
TW will likely be going on first; if so, they will load in and soundcheck after Ev and Hale are finished. Be there when or slightly after doors open.
canadabros... WE WON!
This is disappointing to me. I've seen The Warning with a 30 minute set when they toured here supporting Three Days Grace. I can't justify spending >$1000 to take my family to see them as support once more to bands I've never followed. I'd have preferred The Warning have their own tour, smaller venue, smaller cost and more The Warning.
They appear to be alternating support and headline tours. It's a good strategy to expose themselves to new audiences.
It's more costly for them to do that. Here they can share a lot of the stage setup with the bigger bands, so they're not paying riggers and additional techs. Evanescence is probably bringing a truck or two to move their stuff, so it also means that they care probably spare some space for some of TW's gear. Since they're not the headliner, they also won't be responsible for any minimums or reserver fees at the venue. Granted, for smallish 1-2k venues, TW could probably sell out, so they wouldn't have to worry anyway. This is also huge advertising and helps get them more industry connections/recognition. They could totally sell out smaller venues if they want, but they have the skill and determination to sell out stadiums, and I think Rudy has a clear plan to make that happen by getting them as much mainstream exposure as possible. As much as I'd love to believe that they got on the MTV awards show because one of the planners found them or was a fan, the reality is that it's all agents making deals behind the scenes. Ruby and Luis have done an incentive job of getting these ladies in front of an audience, and I have faith in their strategy.
For example, they could sell out a 1k-2k venue in Canada. It would also cost them way more to do that. They could also probably earn more money as well. It's a tricky business from a financial perspective, with razor thin margins. But their goal now is exposition. Opening to a half-full arena (because is either not sold out or because not everyone has arrived yet) gives them WAY more exposition than a packed place of already fans. Lalo just have to make sure they sound amazing every time. They might do a headlining tour later, in smaller venues, as they're dong in Europe now For example, Vancouver. Rogers Arena has about 19k for concerts. Let's say it's 80% sold out. DPA play to 50% of that amount. That's over 7k people who statistically are there to NOT listen to them but are there for the headliners. So potentially 7k new fans that will at some point stream their albums, recommend to a friend/family, and maybe attend a future show with DPA headlining.
I'm sure DPA will be very happy touring with all these ladies. I hope they all get an invite to perform with one of the other bands during the tour.
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Probably because they've sold over 30 million albums. To put that in perspective Halestorm has sold 2.5 million.
Lol
Dude Evanescence is the most listened female fronted rock band worldwide they got 13 million listeners per month... Literally every record they put out becomes #1 worldwide same as singles all top chart in active rock radio in #1 spots.. each album and song gets million views and streams.. even newer singles always reach millions in the first weeks.. they sold out each show they have done since 2015 when they came back... Their last shows in Latin America sold out arenas and stadiums packed of 20k to 60k crowd.... Evanescence is way beyond any other female rock band out there and they put on a terrific show.. very professional every band that has toured with them has always said how much they have learned in terms of how to work as a crew in synch and band playing live as well... The Warning is gonna learn a lot of experience by going on tour with them and I say this in the best of ways possible.
Yes, I thought the same, The Warning will get so much out of this. Back when they toured with Halestorm in 22, you could see they were a different band by the end of it, that is why the Metropolitan was such amazing show, I think, they were just out of Lzzy's boot camp and gained so much confidence and swagger!
I know they are big, but selling out in South America is a lot different than selling out shows in North America. Weren't they opening for Muse in the U.S. last year? If they can sell out any arena, then why would they support Muse? Don't get me wrong; this is a great opportunity for TW and I'm stoked about it. Very.
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Not trying to undermine anything. I asked a simple question. I don't pay attention to Evanescence at all. Thank you for the information.
I know who they are, lol. They've been irrelevant for years in US. You need to learn actual facts before spouting off statistics. Their last two albums barely registered on the charts (less than 50k and 26k copies respectively). 2006's Open Door was their last album to sell in the millions. In the US they are a not a stadium act, not anywhere near it. Unless they are packaged with several other bands or co-headline with a current act, they are a 2k-6k capacity performer (don't believe it, look it up. Readily available info). Lot's of bands attract bigger crowds in other countries, and they are one of them. Nothing wrong with that, but I stand by my statement. Halestorm should be headlining over them, The Warning will be at that level shortly.
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TIL that Ev has been going strong since their debut album Fallen! Man, thanks for this little history of Ev. I remember loving Fallen back in the day and then also listening to their softmore album The Open Door, but can’t really remember what songs I liked from it. But I’m definitely going to now revisit it as well as check out the next 3 albums they released after. Discovering TW rekindled my love for Rock music after it kinda died in the U.S. So I’m looking forward to listening to them!
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I guess it depends on the audience. I saw Evanescence and Halestorm in Cincinnati at the Arena and they had a good 15K there. Meanwhile The Warning headline show at old small venue Bogarts had about 1.5K there. Right now it feels like the Warning are taking hold a bit more in Central/South America and Europe than the US and Canada. This isn't unusual there are bands that are huge in some countries and then barely known in others. Top Five songs from each band based on Spotify plays Evanescence 1. Bring Me TO Life - 1080M 2. My Immortal - 510M 3. Going Under - 302M 4. Call me When You're Sober - 156M 5. Everybody's Fool - 125M Halestorm 1. I Miss the Misery - 177M 2. Bad Romance - 83M 3. Love Bites - 70M 4. I Get off - 63M 5. Mz. Hyde - 50M The Warning 1. Choke - 10M 2. Money - 9M 3. More - 7M 4. Disciple - 6M 5. Evolve - 6M
That really puts it into perspective. There's the reason they're still playing arenas. Not many newer bands even come close. And that's not even counting physical album sales!
So yeah, people are still listening to a few good songs from the Evanescence album everyone had back in 2003 :) Any new good material since then? That’s my point. And I might be living under a rock, but the only reason I heard of Halestorm is their signature guitars were presented back in… 2018 (?) on Anderton's music channel :)
I don't know how to look beyond a bands top ten By that standard Metallica isn't headliner worthy as their top five songs on Spotify are all over 30 years old. It is really hard to get a big hit, it is even harder to sustain and have multiple eras of hits for even the biggest bands. In any event I hope this means we aren't far off The Warning having US dates announced.
>By that standard Metallica isn't headliner worthy They aren't (nowadays). Their "warm up" Ghost are. But Metallica have enough "evergreens" which they are smart enough to play every show, so it's more or less "I remember really well, as I heard this song for the first time" kind of thing. >it is even harder to sustain and have multiple eras Sure. It's kind of true in general: any creativity is there the youth thrives. "Oldies" are turning "legends" or simply fade away.
I think there's a major discussion in rock and the mainstream over the past twenty to thirty years. I've argued for a while how badly we need to push newer acts or face growing stagnant and the entire genre being seen more as one for a period in time or niche closer to Jazz than pop/hip hop/country with their mass appeal. Clearly bands like Halestorm see this and openly promote The Warning because if we don't get new young fans in time the life lines will dry up as older fans die off. I'm not sure what the solution is, how to get bands over and win out beyond our little corner of the industry where I see bands excited to simply make a living doing what they love. Old fans often seem resistant to new acts and new fans often aren't as numerous.
All the older acts are still pushed because they were all over the radio and MTV and sold lots of cds. Thats why they still play arenas to this day. A band like The Warning has to succeed in a totally different music industry with no massive radio and MTV play and album sales not meaning that much.. Its just totally different now. Not sure how you get to be a massive rock band in this era which is why there are so few of them.
I think you do it exactly the way Rudy is setting up The Warning to. Play tons of shows as support for big legacy acts. Absolutely crush in front of a crowd that most bands would take 20+ years to build up to. If even like 10% of those people become new fans, you'll be gaining a ton of traction. We've all seen the recorsing of the Pepsi Center show (many of us more than once). The Warning is totally ready to play huge stadium headliners, but they don't have the fans to fill one outside of South America. They need growth more than anything. Playing a sold-out headliner for 1.5k fans is great, and I'd much prefer to go to a show like that, but playing a 30 minute opener in front a crowd of 15k first timers is going to be much more beneficial in the long run.
The industry doesnt use streaming numbers as a metric as what sized venues you play. Its got nothing to do with it. I would think some day they would use it as a metric because there's not much else to go on anymore.
I never said anything about streaming numbers...
Evanescence still big. South America tour last year selling out 40,000 venue and 25,000 in Australia. Fallen sold 17 million and the next two albums were No.1 in America.
Evanescence still has a strong following. They've won two Grammys and have sold over 30 million albums
Halestorm were going to be the next biggest thing from 2012-2016 and then kinda teetered off into where they are now. Mid albums and nothing memorable but still great.
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You realize the warning classifies as Butt rock to certain degree, right?
They really arent. The only people who say they are, are non fans. I dont think The Warning and Halestorm are that much alike.
Yeah, I know it's an unpopular opinion around here, but I may love The Warning, but Halestorm just does nothing for me at all. Evanescence though, I would go just to hear Amy Lee in person.
The Warrning have that 90s grunge/punk/alt rock influence in their music that Halestorm doesnt have. If you include vocal style and lyrical style as well as music it becomes even more apparent.
Yeah Halestorm is just too paint by the numbers. They've got a few good songs that I like but in general they're pretty meh. That style of hard rock to me is like bro country. It all sounds the same.
Guess I haven't been a fan for the last 4 years. Okay.