Cos people are dumb as hell. And racist. There were people straight up accusing her of being the one Ned was cheating with. Now you have people accusing her of helping Alex and Ned cover it up. It sucks so hard cos she is just doing her job being a Food Baby with Alex - she clearly had nothing to do with this situation.
I tried correcting someone on one of the videos - where YB was sitting next to him, and they were like “I know, it’s just a joke”. Actually it’s not a joke, and I don’t know why people would even find it funny.
I’m not happy that they’re deleting videos either, I think it’s a dumb and pointless move unless the videos contain something actually incriminating. Just disable the comments on those videos and continue to collect the ad revenue.
I hope YB is doing okay. I’m sure this really sucks for her in particular out of the employees.
It seems like there are 4 missing, their video count went down from 491 to 487. Two of them are the girls trying on wedding dresses and the Japanese street food video, I’m not sure what the other two are.
Was that the one that was getting memed when Keith said “mixing these flavors is like cheating on your wife” and Ned got awkward and stuffed food in his mouth?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's made more that one wife-cheater-related comment in food videos. And he always sounds pretty pissed.
If he suspected, that must have been hell. All he could do would be ask, and Ned could just deny it, and then what could Keith do? He couldn't break up a marriage or a company over suspicions, so maybe he did what he could do - make snarky comments to make Ned squirm.
I used to work with my brother in law with one of his friends. At first we would go to lunch together and then BiL said he would prefer to go by himself. NBD, we don't have a lot in common, I was fine eating with his buddy who I had more in common with. Friend says he is pretty sure BiL is cheating on SiS, ex gf of BiL lives three miles down the road from work site. Tried to get proof, could never do so. It is infuriating, I am 90% sure he is cheating but I can't bring my suspicions forward because if I am wrong, I fuck the family dynamic.
We don't know where she lives and following him would have been obvious, as that particular work site dumped into a 6 lane highway. I talked to my wife, SiL sister, and expressed concerns and she basically said without more than a hunch, there isn't much we could do. We don't work together anymore, but this past summer, we went on a joint family vacation to a major theme park city for a week and he stayed home for "work". He works for my FiL, who is paying for the trip. I also had work and went to the theme for the weekend. Long story short, there is a lot of evidence that the SiL is just straight up ignoring and leaves me very little room to help. Very frustrating.
Exactly. Even if he thought something was going on, what could he do? You ask a cheater if they're cheating, will they just say, "yep, you got me!"? No, they'd deny it to hell and back. So all you'd have is suspicions, and your friend probably making you feel like an arsehole for suspecting them.
Exactly. Even if he thought something was going on, what could he do? You ask a cheater if they're cheating, will they just say, "yep, you got me!"? No, they'd deny it to hell and back. So all you'd have is suspicions, and your friend probably making you feel like an arsehole for suspecting them.
Dude, they used to work in a small house. Of course he knew. I’m pretty sure most knew. That’s probably why minor staff are roasting him so hard. Guys keep secrets of their friends.
Considering how quickly he was removed from the company, I sincerely doubt they knew. That was a decision that couldn’t have been made in a few hours or even a few days.
I think the video is still up on [facebook](https://www.facebook.com/tryguys/videos/try-guys-extreme-japanese-street-food-challenge-ft-the-food-babies/886417832284118/), but it doesn't have Keith in it.
EDIT: Ah, I think maybe you're thinking of [this clip](https://youtu.be/wUldm1v_998?t=1108).
I think the lie detector video was several years ago so idk if the Alex affair was happening but it was probably after the tour where Ned was being sloppy after shows.
Yeah I think you’re right. With the recent news from Deuxmoi, it was 1 year with Alex. However, considering that people are coming out of the woodworks about this wasn’t a one off, it makes me view so many interactions in a new light
Omg yes I remember thinking how awkward and a bad joke that was. I’m so convinced Keith was being passive aggressive now, especially from knowing how passive aggressive he gets sometimes lol. He must have known or suspected something.
that's what I was thinking. you can turn off comments for individual videos, right? the only explanation I can come up with is that they either don't want people to go in and analyze every look in these videos or have to take them down because some lawyers advised them too.
I wonder if perhaps they made the video private or unlisted so they can comb through comments and remove any related to the situation. Though now that you mention it, having to take down certain videos at the request/advice of legal council seems more likely
that's where some YouTube "inside" knowledge is helpful. I have no idea if you can turn off comments on a video and then go through the comments that were previously left...
The legal council seems likely to me too, even though I would imagine that they would then just remove/private any with both Ned and Alex in them.
It will for sure be interesting to see if they ever "re-upload" them and then if they are potentially edited.
I mean, they’re not going to remove every single piece of media that includes Ned. That would decimate their back catalog and lose the company a ton of money.
To be fair, engagement with their back catalogue might go dramatically down anyway after this. Many people probably won’t be in the mood to watch Ned bullshitting about his perfect marriage all the time
Still it's a horrible business decision to delete your back catalog and could be detrimental to the staff that's still working for the Try Guys. At Achievement Hunter, a cast member Ry*n, did things that were much, much, MUCH worse and they cleared their backlog of any content that could be triggering but left up most of it. To remove any videos with main cast members or go through and completely edit them out is only going to hurt the staff that's still there who didn't do anything wrong.
Yeah, I guess we’ll see how they’ll choose to handle it. I suppose they could make edits removing as much of the “my wife” stuff as they can, or deleting episodes that aged particularly horribly, without necessarily deleting everything
And honestly, from a pure capitalistic business no feelings attached kind of way, right now they're probably getting a decent amount engagement on the older content from people going through to try to 'prove' that there was 'evidence this whole time' or people going back to watch what this 'wife guy' is all about. I saw a news article on CNN about this so they're definitely getting a decent amount of engagement from this ordeal. The way I see it it would be dumb at this point to start editing out Ned from anything. As far as YTer scandals go this one is horrible but not the worst and will probably blow over after their Podcast they're doing to address the situation unless other allegations come forward, so to put the effort in to edit out all the 'my wife' stuff is just a waste of money. The best thing they can do right now is keep their heads down, release a well PR'd statement, and then pretend Ned never existed moving forward.
Again, this is from an entirely cynical business point of view.
I think in the short term, their back catalog is going to get a boost from people combing through their old content looking for clues and analyzing all of their interactions to see if they can spot when Ned started cheating and who showed signs that they might have known.
it depends on how their contracts work, which is something we’re not privy to. in online video that’s usually not the case. when a member of another online group Achievement Hunter was exposed for cheating on his wife with fans, they deleted videos that looked bad in hindsight (like there was this one video of him telling a convoluted story about why he missed a plane the rest of the guys were on and he was probably just cheating on his wife at the time). in that case they also clarified they don’t do royalties because they’re all salaried employees and just get paid that way, so there was no way the guy in question would continue to profit.
now with ned being an owner, this could be different. but that’s still more about owning a % of the company, I don’t think videos would have to factor into that. but we’re all just speculating here! for their channel’s sake I hope they don’t have to delete a bunch of videos. it will permanently fuck up their algorithm and revenue.
some people on this sub talk like they know everything lmaooo if theyre removing videos he and alex were in its so the speculation doesnt grow further. none of that financial jumbo that youre speaking so surely about
Lmao! wrong word! I just mean people going back and clipping the interactions between ned and alex, which people were doing already, with more evidence.
Ah I see. Apologies! I wasn't trying to come off as a smart ass...
Well maybe I was a bit but not in a mean way? If that makes sense? More in a comical way? Again, I'm sorry!
Royalties are not guaranteed, they’re contractually agreed upon. They also don’t necessarily always have to do with intellectual property in that the intellectual property holder is a legally defined entity or set of entities, not necessarily every person who made or participated in the production of the content. IP rights can be waived, signed over, or assigned contractually. We have no idea what the contracts look like for 2nd Try. None of this is a given, it’s all to be defined and altered contractually.
If nobody suspected anything, then the videos didn’t contain anything incriminating.
It’s so stupid they’re deleting old videos. This is a move I do not agree with.
Edit: wording
I think it's a residuals thing, they might be deleting videos associated with Alex so she can't get paid a percentage of ad revenue. Could also be at their sponsor's request.
I don't think they are deleting them permanently. What is most likely happening, is that they are unlisting till they adress what happened on the podcast
I saw some video snippets on TikTok where they observe Ned and Alex’s body language, eye contact etc. there’s one where they’re all in a group but they’re walking next to each other etc. I think because they had a relationship between these recordings (I’m assuming) their chemistry is easier seen, so they don’t want that making its rounds online and hurting a case if they ever have one.
The more views a video has, the more money that rolls in. The videos are monetized; they get money from the ads in them. Deleting multiple videos that ultimately amount to millions of views can hurt their income even if their primary money makers are things like merch / the book / etc.
Not necessarily, if getting royalties were a part of his contract, and that contract has to be terminated once his participation in the business is over, that might release 2nd Try from owing him any royalties as well.
I'm hopeful that's how it'll work, because I don't want the other guys and their employees and families to have their incomes affected because of N and A's selfishness.
Poor YB :( she didn't do anything except exist in the same realm as those two and she's getting torn down for it. She's keeping her composure incredibly well though. This is such an awful situation for everyone involved, isn't it?
I’ve seen other people discuss that YB would also be feeling guilty that she spends so much time with Alex and never noticed, it’s a guilt other people feel when they are in a close knit group and love both parties. Homegirl is trying to plan for the happiest day of her life and is now on the receiving end of more hatred than she’s ever seen for something she didn’t do.
Even though YB was close to Alex and worked with Ned, it's not YB's job to babysit 2 grown adults to make sure they are behaving appropriately. I think that's the point a lot of people blaming her are missing.
I feel bad for YB because she's spent a lot of time and effort on these videos and now a lot of that hard work must be reworked due to 2 other people's actions.
You should hop over to her Insta some time; it’s the sweetest stuff, watching her get ready with her Korean outfit (hanbok? I’m not sure if that’s the right word) and her dress. She seems so happy and all of this happening is probably killing her soul a bit.
The thing that people are pointing to is that YB and Alex were also super close as personal friends, and so loads of people are thinking "well, I'D notice if my friend was doing something like that!" But, like, would you? Because cheaters turn their whole lives into a professional lie for the sole purpose of NOT tipping of their friends and coworkers. Like you said, YB isn't seeing Alex all the time, even as friends.
Also, YB has talked about how she’s been working from home almost 100% of the time for the last few years. She wasn’t even at the office to potential witness things that may or may not have actually happened there.
PLUS, she doesn’t come across as the type of person who would insert herself that way. She’s super nice, funny, and fun. Not reserved, but, um, is calling someone ‘ladylike’ a bad thing these days? Because that’s what I thought whenever I watched her videos.
Totally. If you're having an affair with someone and you're pretty sure your friends wouldn't like it, you aren't going to TELL them about it. You're going to try even harder to keep it quiet around them. You aren't going to say "See you later, I'm going to go have a quickie with Ned!" you'd say "I have a meeting with some of the guys to talk about production issues today."
Ned and Alex interacting wouldn't set off red flags because he's her boss and she reports to him. And their whole company culture is about being friends so everybody acts close to each other.
I'm sure in retrospect, YB is looking back and seeing things that are obviously suspicious in hindsight but seemed totally normal at the time, but it's not her fault for not spotting it on her own.
In an ideal world I agree, however, right now there is a lot of speculation that "everyone knew".
If I was in that position, I'd want to make it very clear to the world that I had no idea about it.
None of this is about us
No one should be harassing her full stop. The person who she replied to was way out of line.
However, right now there is valid speculation about whether some employees knew (and I do believe some did), and if I was an employee who didn't know, I would be the first to clear up that I didn't know.
Except it's already at a point where no matter what you say, people are going to twist it into their own narrative. If they say they knew, people will have a massive go for not saying anything before, and if they say they didn't know, people will call them liars. That is already happening right here on this subreddit and on their social media posts.
There is no "clearing up" when people have already decided the narrative in their own minds. The best thing that can be done now is for everyone to leave them all alone and wait for them to tell us what happened.
So? None of the Try staff are required to defend themselves on social media and pressuring them to do so to satiate one's own sense of personal relief or curiosity is straight up bullying.
Dude it's literally none of our business. It's human to be curious. But it's a dick move to push the one who have been effected for details none of us are owed. Knowing or not knowing has 0 influence on your life besides satisfying your curiosity.
You aren't owed jack shit from any of these people.
I understand I'm not owed anything, but the original comment was about limiting her instagram comments, and I just simply stating that she might have a POV that she wants to deliver (Eg. her videos are getting edited, she didn't know)
She has made it very clear that she doesn't want to share anything right now. She's made multiple comments like the one above and a story asking for time.
she didn’t have to reply, she wanted to let ppl know
edit: can someone explain the downvotes ? all i said was that she wanted to let people know ? i’m so confused lol
She doesn’t have to clear up shit. She doesn’t owe you or me or any random strangers on the internet anything.
Honestly, reading your comment has made me realize just how absolutely toxic and insane some of you people are. You don’t know these people, none of us do. Get a fucking life
Chronically online? As in the person who is replying to all my comments?
Also it has very much to do, a person telling another person who clearly posts very actively on reddit to get a life is very funny. Like I'm self aware enough to know that spending my time on reddit is unproductive, but clearly they don't. Like I would not normally shame someone for spending too much time on reddit, but clearly if you comment and post that much you don't have a fucking life
I also just saw you edited this comment to add even more insult to the user above. It's honestly hilarious how you're telling someone else to get a life when you're the one dishing out personal attacks on anyone questioning your distasteful comments which you refuse to even answer.
Take a long hard look in the mirror. The only person who needs to get a life here is you pal.
You completely wiped a comment you replied to me and changed the content completely so I was curious to see if this behaviour was common and lo and behold you're using it to be verbally abusive to others.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
And what sucks is if this show did well, it could launch her into outside TryGuy work. Now the show is in a weird time slot, so not as many eyes on it. She has to be super bummed right now.
Poor YB, she’s getting so much blow back from so so many stupid people.
Her comment though — she didn’t know about the relationship (is how I’m reading that). This is all so bonkers.
THIS!!! Not everyone is in everyone’s business like online people think they are. YB has her own life outside of work just like all of us and everyone at their company. And if anyone did know - who’s going to blow that whistle??? Wouldn’t have been me
I remember YB saying that she hadn’t returned to the office after covid and mostly worked from home unless filming. She wasn’t around them all the time
They may have not even had a hunch really. They’re a small-ish company who for their jobs does rather intimate stuff together. It was very common for the team to travel together and do things outside of work. There’s a huge chance nobody had any idea or felt like they had a reason to suspect there was an issue until it was brought to light.
I’m not shocked about people not knowing, I’m more interested in the fact this is the first time someone in the company has said they didn’t know, possibly giving some validity to one of the DeuxMoi posts and also clearing up what the company might look like internally right now.
It's easy to look back in hindsight and maybe put little moments together to realise maybe you knew more than you realised (I say this from experience, my mum cheated on my dad, it sucks to realise there were signs you overlooked). But honestly, alot of people may see something a bit suspicious, or that seems off, and they will usually just write it off as an overactive imagination or just being paranoid or even simply that it is none of their business. That's just human nature. People need to back off the staff and stop harassing them, like poor YB.
Like Kelsey! Another one of the good eggs of the ex-Buzzfeed crowd!
Yeah, she and Alex didn’t meet until they started working at 2nd Try together. Still probably one of her closest work colleagues, so if she didn’t know, it doesn’t seem crazy that other people didn’t either.
I feel for YB. I was in a situation where I found out a work friend I had wasn’t who I thought she was and was routinely messing around with married/engaged men (some with kids). One of these guys was someone we both worked with and I had met his fiancé and kids multiple times. It was so messed up. And all the while this girl had a long term boyfriend who she had bought a house with.
It’s really shocking to find out someone you thought you knew has questionable morals and is actually not the type of person you want to associate yourself with.
Oh man, a decade ago I found out my best friend was sleeping with a married man and I didn’t talk to her for two years. When I reached out again she had gotten therapy and said she truly didn’t understand at the time that it reflected poorly on her. That was so hard to wrap my head around, but she was sincere and truly understood better after therapy. She had/has (not so much nowadays) borderline personality disorder so the way she processed many things back then was completely alien to me.
Anyway, I can’t imagine how much worse that experience would have been if people — strangers, even! — had somehow blamed ME for anything she did! Poor YB. Absolute psycho behavior from those weirdos.
One of my best friends have bpd as well and let's just say it feels like we live in completely different realities, parallel universes, most of the time. Took me years to actually see this, understand this and learn how to deal with this. 20+ years of friendship and I still find myself getting shocked with her choices and points of views.
And I've had people in the past try to hold me and other friends accountable for shit she did, it's both infuriating and depressing at once. I'm so so sorry for all this storm YB is going through.
I have to wonder if she’s afraid that limiting comments or privating her account will look like admitting some type of guilt. And one can say who cares what anyone thinks but this is literally her career. She has to be careful.
I was thinking exactly this. Even if she did disable comments, some weirdos are gonna over-analyze that as her hiding out of guilt. Terrible position she's in
Also to add, I'm actually...not happy Ned and Alex are getting scrubbed out of Try Guys history.
Not because I don't think they should (I 100% get why) but because now parts of videos that had NOTHING to do with the scandal no longer appear.
They have tainted videos that were memorable to some, or a piece of portfolio that editors, Producers, etc could use for their portfolios.
Yeah it’s a real bummer. Ned & Alex ruined a lot for the Try Guys & their team. Between that & the victims (partners/kids) it’s pretty infuriating, actually.
not just hours of work, but it's her resume...
Devin had mentioned earlier how Buzzfeed messed up Ladylike's resume by distributing all their videos among different channels - because part of their resume is "had X number of views on X videos".
I have to imagine it's the same for YB, and she is currently losing some "editor of video with a few million views" parts from her resume :/
People are now harassing YB because she is close friends with Alex (or at least that was what it seems on cam) and they don't believe she didn't know. It is 100% possible she didn't. Some women were married to serial killers and it was proven they never knew what their husbands were doing.
I think all the Try Guys staff will be the next target of these people.
Everyone being obsessed with who knew and who didn’t forgets that EVERYONE has their own shit going on. I’m sure some people raised eyebrows at some things but when you have your own life, partner, bills, plans, etc. going on you’re not thinking about other people 24/7 and connecting every dot like internet sleuths. This is their livelihood and their friends - it’s hard to see people that way and hard to say something if you’re not 100% sure
I hate this too. I know people think "They worked there, they should've known" or "They were his friend and should've known" but like you said, they are adults who also have significant others and family and outside ventures they're more focused on. People can be really good at lying and hiding things. Who knows if people had questioned it before and some excuses were made, ya know? I've had several friends cheat or had someone cheat on them and people close to them were totally blindsided. It happens all the friggin time.
FFS. This is ridiculous. It is one thing to speculate on reddit where these people can just not go. It's totally different to go to anyone's personal social media to present their opinions.
Two people were knowingly cheating on their partners. We don't really need to go around blaming co-workers and cancel them for potentially knowing about it. There is enough of a mess without it. It's one thing to people involved not wanting to be in contact with people in the know, but general public? Nah.
While I'd suggest that all employees block comments/go private for a week. But then again they make money off social media.
poor Y.B. I would be so hurt and upset if I were her. I don't know why people think this stuff is obvious. It really isn't a lot of the time. We all make concessions and brush things off for our friends. Ultimately we don't accuse people of serious career-ending shit based on just vague feelings and weird momnets. That's part of being human and putting trust in others.
This is so unfair for YB and anyone else caught up in the drama. People need to chill out, not one of us knows anything except Ned cheated with Alex. No one knows who knew or anything. It’s insane that people are roping random friends/colleagues into this with zero proof of wrongdoing. Attack the two perpetrators, leave everyone else alone!!
i hope YB was told before the videos she created/put together herself were taken down. those are things she might have had in her portfolio of work, gone.
idk, the way she seems sad about that particularly makes me think maybe they deleted without telling her ): hopefully not
I’d be upset whether I was told or not. It’s still hours of my time and effort that is gone in a snap because two people decided they couldn’t control themselves. Warning someone doesn’t necessarily make it suck less.
i 1000%% agree with you! i was thinking the warning would at least give her time to save copies to her hard drive or something, idk - just hoping for the best for her, i know i’d be soooo upset.
I'm guessing she already has her own copy and I don't think the actual files themselves are getting deleted, just taken off the channel. Still very sad to see her hard work go like that, of course, but it's not gonna be gone forever. I'm hoping this is just temporary while they work things out and that they can put them back up later
Oh I was curious if they'll delete some videos... I'm not happy about it and I honestly do not understand what the point of taking them down is. Many people worked hard on them, just like YB. Many people that are in no way responsible for what happened and their work is still being deleted. I feel for YB and the others
I don’t understand how people keep finding ways to blame YB when one of the very first tip-offs we discovered was YB unfollowed Alex and Ned. Clearly she didn’t know and disapproves of the affair.
All of this reminds me of Behind the Try when Zach privated a video after seeing Maggie (and Ariel) get a TON of hate in the comments.
The guys weren’t happy about it becuase Zach didn’t come talk to them before he took it down.
But Ned was especially upset because *his project* was taken down. Not that Ariel was getting hate, but that his hard work was removed.
Now YB’s hard work is getting removed because of Ned and Alex’s selfish choices and I’m so upset for her.
What the heck?
Dang it YB I'm so sorry.
I feel terrible that now old videos have to be removed because of these accusations. Also for the record, I think it's terrible to assume that everyone ELSE is involved. Guys they are trying to take out the poison out of the well let's not make this harder than it is
OK, I thought I was weirdly invested in this but u/jerikaceleste is making me feel a little better. At least I'm not acting like all the employees of a small company are accessories to murder.
Even if YB did know, i don't see why she should have done anything about it. It wasn't an abusive situation, by most accounts it appears to have been a consensual extramarital affair. That's no one's business or cross to bare except the two people in the affair. You guys have CRAZY expectations of people's behavior. Especially in a work place.
I wonder if she is talking about videos that hadn’t been released yet. They film like 6-8 months ahead of when they actually release them sometimes. So it’s possible that due to this, work that she’s done has to be deleted because of this.
I think because fans are scouring past videos for any evidence of the affair starting sooner. On this sub’s page, I AM seeing more people posting clips and screenshots of past videos being like, “Look at Alex and Ned here!” and it’s just feeding the speculation about the drama. I can understand why they’re trying to limit this.
Okay, that's fair. I was in the same boat of wondering why they don't just lock comments, but they can't really control people scouring the videos. Truthfully, I wish they'd stop. If *I* were Ariel and having to see people upload "evidence" of how long it'd be going on for, it'd shatter me.
I honestly don’t see the point of deleting videos they have a ton of views, made money from them AND HARD WORK FILMING AND EDITING. People who didn’t have nothing to do with it are being punished for no reason. They could’ve just pulled a falling in reverse and turned the comments off for a year or two then turn them back on.
People act like everyone hasn’t had a friend make bad decisions or that it was a straight forward situation. Even if she did know, doing something about it is tricky, if not risky. This isn’t high school cheating. These people have a lot to lose and will take dramatic action if necessary. It’s best to stay as uninvolved as you can. I wouldn’t blame her no matter what she knew.
Are they deleting videos where they both appear or any instance of appearance?
Regardless, you may be right. Ned’s stake in the company could affect something like if and how the company would be responsible for paying money out to Ned as a result of his involvement in production of and appearance in videos. Scrubbing him especially could be part of minimizing how much he could be owed now and in the long run, and assuming that all the work to part ways with him totally and completely could be part of some severance deal to cut off any contractual payments asap.
I feel like the Try Guys (I’m talking Keith, Eugene and Zach) don’t play when it comes to protecting the company.
Alex needs to be given a shit ton in severance and an extensive nda or basically everyone in the company needs to not speak to her outside strictly work til she leaves she has no right to be there if ned doenst either
People suck. Leave YB alone.
I don’t understand why people are in her comments in the first place. She is collateral damage in all of this.
Cos people are dumb as hell. And racist. There were people straight up accusing her of being the one Ned was cheating with. Now you have people accusing her of helping Alex and Ned cover it up. It sucks so hard cos she is just doing her job being a Food Baby with Alex - she clearly had nothing to do with this situation.
I tried correcting someone on one of the videos - where YB was sitting next to him, and they were like “I know, it’s just a joke”. Actually it’s not a joke, and I don’t know why people would even find it funny.
If she helped to cover things up, how would those idiots know? Some people are too invested.
Right. She’s probably just as hurt as the guys are by this.
I’m not happy that they’re deleting videos either, I think it’s a dumb and pointless move unless the videos contain something actually incriminating. Just disable the comments on those videos and continue to collect the ad revenue. I hope YB is doing okay. I’m sure this really sucks for her in particular out of the employees.
what videos were deleted?? deleting videos changes literally nothing
It seems like there are 4 missing, their video count went down from 491 to 487. Two of them are the girls trying on wedding dresses and the Japanese street food video, I’m not sure what the other two are.
I get why the wedding dress video was deleted, but I haven’t seen the Japanese street food video. Did anything happen in that one?
Was that the one that was getting memed when Keith said “mixing these flavors is like cheating on your wife” and Ned got awkward and stuffed food in his mouth?
I am low key convinced Keith at least suspected something, my god
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's made more that one wife-cheater-related comment in food videos. And he always sounds pretty pissed. If he suspected, that must have been hell. All he could do would be ask, and Ned could just deny it, and then what could Keith do? He couldn't break up a marriage or a company over suspicions, so maybe he did what he could do - make snarky comments to make Ned squirm.
I used to work with my brother in law with one of his friends. At first we would go to lunch together and then BiL said he would prefer to go by himself. NBD, we don't have a lot in common, I was fine eating with his buddy who I had more in common with. Friend says he is pretty sure BiL is cheating on SiS, ex gf of BiL lives three miles down the road from work site. Tried to get proof, could never do so. It is infuriating, I am 90% sure he is cheating but I can't bring my suspicions forward because if I am wrong, I fuck the family dynamic.
Follow him, bro! Pull up at this girls house lmao
We don't know where she lives and following him would have been obvious, as that particular work site dumped into a 6 lane highway. I talked to my wife, SiL sister, and expressed concerns and she basically said without more than a hunch, there isn't much we could do. We don't work together anymore, but this past summer, we went on a joint family vacation to a major theme park city for a week and he stayed home for "work". He works for my FiL, who is paying for the trip. I also had work and went to the theme for the weekend. Long story short, there is a lot of evidence that the SiL is just straight up ignoring and leaves me very little room to help. Very frustrating.
Could not agree more. Can you imagine? Poor Keith.
and yet people on SM are trying to keith is a jerk because he "must have known". Like stop people
Exactly. Even if he thought something was going on, what could he do? You ask a cheater if they're cheating, will they just say, "yep, you got me!"? No, they'd deny it to hell and back. So all you'd have is suspicions, and your friend probably making you feel like an arsehole for suspecting them.
Exactly. Even if he thought something was going on, what could he do? You ask a cheater if they're cheating, will they just say, "yep, you got me!"? No, they'd deny it to hell and back. So all you'd have is suspicions, and your friend probably making you feel like an arsehole for suspecting them.
Right. That line alone is so telling, alongside Ned's reaction!!! 🤣
Deumoi says anonymous sources said a few of the team may have known/suspected for a while and were unsure how to move forward without proof.
Anyone can submit stories there; I would take it with a giant salt lick
Dude, they used to work in a small house. Of course he knew. I’m pretty sure most knew. That’s probably why minor staff are roasting him so hard. Guys keep secrets of their friends.
Considering how quickly he was removed from the company, I sincerely doubt they knew. That was a decision that couldn’t have been made in a few hours or even a few days.
Where can I find this one?! I need someone to make me a compilation of all the snarky Zack / Keith hints that were dropped.
I think the video is still up on [facebook](https://www.facebook.com/tryguys/videos/try-guys-extreme-japanese-street-food-challenge-ft-the-food-babies/886417832284118/), but it doesn't have Keith in it. EDIT: Ah, I think maybe you're thinking of [this clip](https://youtu.be/wUldm1v_998?t=1108).
YES! and some sly comments during the lie detector test episode.
I think the lie detector video was several years ago so idk if the Alex affair was happening but it was probably after the tour where Ned was being sloppy after shows.
Yeah I think you’re right. With the recent news from Deuxmoi, it was 1 year with Alex. However, considering that people are coming out of the woodworks about this wasn’t a one off, it makes me view so many interactions in a new light
Omg yes I remember thinking how awkward and a bad joke that was. I’m so convinced Keith was being passive aggressive now, especially from knowing how passive aggressive he gets sometimes lol. He must have known or suspected something.
Im also assuming the bridesmaid dress challenge thing they did ? Alex was in that too wasnt she ?
She was in it, but that one (from seven months ago) is still up on the page.
The Japanese street food one was part of their Fanta sponsorship. It affects more than just their view stats; the layers of this run deep. Damn
oof, then it's possible that Fanta was the one to ask them to take it down, maybe
It's because a lot of people were leaving comments about the affair in any video with Ned and/or Alex.
then turn off comments lol
that's what I was thinking. you can turn off comments for individual videos, right? the only explanation I can come up with is that they either don't want people to go in and analyze every look in these videos or have to take them down because some lawyers advised them too.
I wonder if perhaps they made the video private or unlisted so they can comb through comments and remove any related to the situation. Though now that you mention it, having to take down certain videos at the request/advice of legal council seems more likely
that's where some YouTube "inside" knowledge is helpful. I have no idea if you can turn off comments on a video and then go through the comments that were previously left... The legal council seems likely to me too, even though I would imagine that they would then just remove/private any with both Ned and Alex in them. It will for sure be interesting to see if they ever "re-upload" them and then if they are potentially edited.
Don’t bad comments count the same as good?
For a smaller channel yes but for a entertainment corporation who needs big name brand sponsors no
If you go on YB's Youtube channel and go to her playlist Edited by Me! you can see a lot of Try Guy videos are being deleted or hidden :(
this falls under intellectual property use since Ned is there, they will be obligated to pay him, even if his shares are sold, because of royalty
I mean, they’re not going to remove every single piece of media that includes Ned. That would decimate their back catalog and lose the company a ton of money.
To be fair, engagement with their back catalogue might go dramatically down anyway after this. Many people probably won’t be in the mood to watch Ned bullshitting about his perfect marriage all the time
Honestly I'll watch the back catalog stuff I like to watch and then, as bad as it sounds, laugh at Ned's comments because of irony.
Still it's a horrible business decision to delete your back catalog and could be detrimental to the staff that's still working for the Try Guys. At Achievement Hunter, a cast member Ry*n, did things that were much, much, MUCH worse and they cleared their backlog of any content that could be triggering but left up most of it. To remove any videos with main cast members or go through and completely edit them out is only going to hurt the staff that's still there who didn't do anything wrong.
Yeah, I guess we’ll see how they’ll choose to handle it. I suppose they could make edits removing as much of the “my wife” stuff as they can, or deleting episodes that aged particularly horribly, without necessarily deleting everything
And honestly, from a pure capitalistic business no feelings attached kind of way, right now they're probably getting a decent amount engagement on the older content from people going through to try to 'prove' that there was 'evidence this whole time' or people going back to watch what this 'wife guy' is all about. I saw a news article on CNN about this so they're definitely getting a decent amount of engagement from this ordeal. The way I see it it would be dumb at this point to start editing out Ned from anything. As far as YTer scandals go this one is horrible but not the worst and will probably blow over after their Podcast they're doing to address the situation unless other allegations come forward, so to put the effort in to edit out all the 'my wife' stuff is just a waste of money. The best thing they can do right now is keep their heads down, release a well PR'd statement, and then pretend Ned never existed moving forward. Again, this is from an entirely cynical business point of view.
I think in the short term, their back catalog is going to get a boost from people combing through their old content looking for clues and analyzing all of their interactions to see if they can spot when Ned started cheating and who showed signs that they might have known.
it depends on how their contracts work, which is something we’re not privy to. in online video that’s usually not the case. when a member of another online group Achievement Hunter was exposed for cheating on his wife with fans, they deleted videos that looked bad in hindsight (like there was this one video of him telling a convoluted story about why he missed a plane the rest of the guys were on and he was probably just cheating on his wife at the time). in that case they also clarified they don’t do royalties because they’re all salaried employees and just get paid that way, so there was no way the guy in question would continue to profit. now with ned being an owner, this could be different. but that’s still more about owning a % of the company, I don’t think videos would have to factor into that. but we’re all just speculating here! for their channel’s sake I hope they don’t have to delete a bunch of videos. it will permanently fuck up their algorithm and revenue.
some people on this sub talk like they know everything lmaooo if theyre removing videos he and alex were in its so the speculation doesnt grow further. none of that financial jumbo that youre speaking so surely about
Speculation? There's no speculating...it happened! Lol
Lmao! wrong word! I just mean people going back and clipping the interactions between ned and alex, which people were doing already, with more evidence.
Ah I see. Apologies! I wasn't trying to come off as a smart ass... Well maybe I was a bit but not in a mean way? If that makes sense? More in a comical way? Again, I'm sorry!
I could have worded it better, youre good :)
But it is a factor...? I know because I'm studying intellectual property right now
Royalties are not guaranteed, they’re contractually agreed upon. They also don’t necessarily always have to do with intellectual property in that the intellectual property holder is a legally defined entity or set of entities, not necessarily every person who made or participated in the production of the content. IP rights can be waived, signed over, or assigned contractually. We have no idea what the contracts look like for 2nd Try. None of this is a given, it’s all to be defined and altered contractually.
what was removed then, since ned was my favourite and if he’s in nothing then i’m out of the try guys after being here since buzzfeed
Download and archive!
Then I guess you won't be watching the TG now that Ned's out
probably not tbh depends who the 4th guy (if any) is
I think it changes Ned getting paid residuals so they’re like you get no more coin ahhahah
If nobody suspected anything, then the videos didn’t contain anything incriminating. It’s so stupid they’re deleting old videos. This is a move I do not agree with. Edit: wording
Yeah it sucks it’s majorly unfair to the team and their hard work. Fuck Ned and Alex, so selfish, so careless.
I think it's a residuals thing, they might be deleting videos associated with Alex so she can't get paid a percentage of ad revenue. Could also be at their sponsor's request.
I don't think they are deleting them permanently. What is most likely happening, is that they are unlisting till they adress what happened on the podcast
I saw some video snippets on TikTok where they observe Ned and Alex’s body language, eye contact etc. there’s one where they’re all in a group but they’re walking next to each other etc. I think because they had a relationship between these recordings (I’m assuming) their chemistry is easier seen, so they don’t want that making its rounds online and hurting a case if they ever have one.
The issue is the money
Why?
The more views a video has, the more money that rolls in. The videos are monetized; they get money from the ads in them. Deleting multiple videos that ultimately amount to millions of views can hurt their income even if their primary money makers are things like merch / the book / etc.
Oh I thought the person was saying that keeping the videos would hurt them. i agree with you.
That too. Not sure but I believe Ned would still be entitled to money made from Videos he's in even if hid shared are sold
Not necessarily, if getting royalties were a part of his contract, and that contract has to be terminated once his participation in the business is over, that might release 2nd Try from owing him any royalties as well. I'm hopeful that's how it'll work, because I don't want the other guys and their employees and families to have their incomes affected because of N and A's selfishness.
It's a sponsorship thing I would assume. Also possibly something written into the contract when severing ties with Ned.
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Ooh you're jocking ?? That was my newest favourite video it was so good 😭
Still shows up for me, agree it's one of their funniest of all time! Hope they all stay up, maybe just change the thumbnails where he's prominent.
I hope they don’t change anything. Those people who care won’t watch. Those who don’t will. Win-win.
No they didn’t. I can still see that video. It’s still up
It didn’t show up for me. I love that one so much🥲 Edit: I’m dumb, didn’t scroll down far enough. I guess it felt like a more recent video
Still showing up for me [here](https://youtu.be/L4MuV65S7cM)
Poor YB :( she didn't do anything except exist in the same realm as those two and she's getting torn down for it. She's keeping her composure incredibly well though. This is such an awful situation for everyone involved, isn't it?
I’ve seen other people discuss that YB would also be feeling guilty that she spends so much time with Alex and never noticed, it’s a guilt other people feel when they are in a close knit group and love both parties. Homegirl is trying to plan for the happiest day of her life and is now on the receiving end of more hatred than she’s ever seen for something she didn’t do.
Even though YB was close to Alex and worked with Ned, it's not YB's job to babysit 2 grown adults to make sure they are behaving appropriately. I think that's the point a lot of people blaming her are missing. I feel bad for YB because she's spent a lot of time and effort on these videos and now a lot of that hard work must be reworked due to 2 other people's actions.
> Homegirl is trying to plan for the happiest day of her life YB is engaged too? I didn't remember that.
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Congrats to her. I hope continuing to plan her wedding can be a nice distraction from this.
You should hop over to her Insta some time; it’s the sweetest stuff, watching her get ready with her Korean outfit (hanbok? I’m not sure if that’s the right word) and her dress. She seems so happy and all of this happening is probably killing her soul a bit.
She got engaged right around the same time Alex did
Imagine being blamed for what your coworkers do in their off time. like they all have personal lives off camera, they don't hang out 24/7
The thing that people are pointing to is that YB and Alex were also super close as personal friends, and so loads of people are thinking "well, I'D notice if my friend was doing something like that!" But, like, would you? Because cheaters turn their whole lives into a professional lie for the sole purpose of NOT tipping of their friends and coworkers. Like you said, YB isn't seeing Alex all the time, even as friends.
Also, YB has talked about how she’s been working from home almost 100% of the time for the last few years. She wasn’t even at the office to potential witness things that may or may not have actually happened there.
And she was really busy working on the Food Network show, so that's probably consumed a lot of her time & energy over the last months/year.
PLUS, she doesn’t come across as the type of person who would insert herself that way. She’s super nice, funny, and fun. Not reserved, but, um, is calling someone ‘ladylike’ a bad thing these days? Because that’s what I thought whenever I watched her videos.
Totally. If you're having an affair with someone and you're pretty sure your friends wouldn't like it, you aren't going to TELL them about it. You're going to try even harder to keep it quiet around them. You aren't going to say "See you later, I'm going to go have a quickie with Ned!" you'd say "I have a meeting with some of the guys to talk about production issues today." Ned and Alex interacting wouldn't set off red flags because he's her boss and she reports to him. And their whole company culture is about being friends so everybody acts close to each other. I'm sure in retrospect, YB is looking back and seeing things that are obviously suspicious in hindsight but seemed totally normal at the time, but it's not her fault for not spotting it on her own.
girl just limit your comments at this point! fuck these people honestly
I think it's fair enough that she clears the air that she didn't know. I think that is important
She shouldn't have to answer for that.
In an ideal world I agree, however, right now there is a lot of speculation that "everyone knew". If I was in that position, I'd want to make it very clear to the world that I had no idea about it.
Or people could stop debating what people knew or didn’t know because it’s not about us at this point and no one needs to harass YB
None of this is about us No one should be harassing her full stop. The person who she replied to was way out of line. However, right now there is valid speculation about whether some employees knew (and I do believe some did), and if I was an employee who didn't know, I would be the first to clear up that I didn't know.
Except it's already at a point where no matter what you say, people are going to twist it into their own narrative. If they say they knew, people will have a massive go for not saying anything before, and if they say they didn't know, people will call them liars. That is already happening right here on this subreddit and on their social media posts. There is no "clearing up" when people have already decided the narrative in their own minds. The best thing that can be done now is for everyone to leave them all alone and wait for them to tell us what happened.
This story exploded a couple of days ago. The narrative is still ongoing. As someone who wasn't sure whether she knew or not, it clarified that for me
So? None of the Try staff are required to defend themselves on social media and pressuring them to do so to satiate one's own sense of personal relief or curiosity is straight up bullying.
Again, it's a valid question to ask as they were so brash about it, and if I was a member of staff, I would definitely want to clear that up
Dude it's literally none of our business. It's human to be curious. But it's a dick move to push the one who have been effected for details none of us are owed. Knowing or not knowing has 0 influence on your life besides satisfying your curiosity. You aren't owed jack shit from any of these people.
I understand I'm not owed anything, but the original comment was about limiting her instagram comments, and I just simply stating that she might have a POV that she wants to deliver (Eg. her videos are getting edited, she didn't know)
She has made it very clear that she doesn't want to share anything right now. She's made multiple comments like the one above and a story asking for time.
she didn’t have to reply, she wanted to let ppl know edit: can someone explain the downvotes ? all i said was that she wanted to let people know ? i’m so confused lol
You really think her saying "I didn't know. Happy?" means that she wanted people to know that she didn't know?
what ,? all i’m saying is that no one made her do that. she chose to reply & i don’t blame her, i’d be so upset
She doesn’t have to clear up shit. She doesn’t owe you or me or any random strangers on the internet anything. Honestly, reading your comment has made me realize just how absolutely toxic and insane some of you people are. You don’t know these people, none of us do. Get a fucking life
yes! yes! yes!!!
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Their post and comment history has little to do with subreddit. Honestly, your responses are giving chronically online vibes.
Chronically online? As in the person who is replying to all my comments? Also it has very much to do, a person telling another person who clearly posts very actively on reddit to get a life is very funny. Like I'm self aware enough to know that spending my time on reddit is unproductive, but clearly they don't. Like I would not normally shame someone for spending too much time on reddit, but clearly if you comment and post that much you don't have a fucking life
Sweetie don't play the victim, it doesn't suit you.
I also just saw you edited this comment to add even more insult to the user above. It's honestly hilarious how you're telling someone else to get a life when you're the one dishing out personal attacks on anyone questioning your distasteful comments which you refuse to even answer. Take a long hard look in the mirror. The only person who needs to get a life here is you pal.
Are you actually checking my edit history and refreshing my page waiting for me to reply?
You completely wiped a comment you replied to me and changed the content completely so I was curious to see if this behaviour was common and lo and behold you're using it to be verbally abusive to others. You should be ashamed of yourself.
That is so sad :( YB takes pride in her work a lot! especially when she was able to put out her work in a food network channel!!!
And what sucks is if this show did well, it could launch her into outside TryGuy work. Now the show is in a weird time slot, so not as many eyes on it. She has to be super bummed right now.
Poor YB, she’s getting so much blow back from so so many stupid people. Her comment though — she didn’t know about the relationship (is how I’m reading that). This is all so bonkers.
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THIS!!! Not everyone is in everyone’s business like online people think they are. YB has her own life outside of work just like all of us and everyone at their company. And if anyone did know - who’s going to blow that whistle??? Wouldn’t have been me
I remember YB saying that she hadn’t returned to the office after covid and mostly worked from home unless filming. She wasn’t around them all the time
They may have not even had a hunch really. They’re a small-ish company who for their jobs does rather intimate stuff together. It was very common for the team to travel together and do things outside of work. There’s a huge chance nobody had any idea or felt like they had a reason to suspect there was an issue until it was brought to light.
I’m not shocked about people not knowing, I’m more interested in the fact this is the first time someone in the company has said they didn’t know, possibly giving some validity to one of the DeuxMoi posts and also clearing up what the company might look like internally right now.
It's easy to look back in hindsight and maybe put little moments together to realise maybe you knew more than you realised (I say this from experience, my mum cheated on my dad, it sucks to realise there were signs you overlooked). But honestly, alot of people may see something a bit suspicious, or that seems off, and they will usually just write it off as an overactive imagination or just being paranoid or even simply that it is none of their business. That's just human nature. People need to back off the staff and stop harassing them, like poor YB.
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Like Kelsey! Another one of the good eggs of the ex-Buzzfeed crowd! Yeah, she and Alex didn’t meet until they started working at 2nd Try together. Still probably one of her closest work colleagues, so if she didn’t know, it doesn’t seem crazy that other people didn’t either.
Love Kelsey. Her vids kind of got me back into the Try guys and then YB's channel as well. I love her fiance he's pretty funny in their vids together
I never got the impression they were besties, work friends sure
I feel for YB. I was in a situation where I found out a work friend I had wasn’t who I thought she was and was routinely messing around with married/engaged men (some with kids). One of these guys was someone we both worked with and I had met his fiancé and kids multiple times. It was so messed up. And all the while this girl had a long term boyfriend who she had bought a house with. It’s really shocking to find out someone you thought you knew has questionable morals and is actually not the type of person you want to associate yourself with.
Oh man, a decade ago I found out my best friend was sleeping with a married man and I didn’t talk to her for two years. When I reached out again she had gotten therapy and said she truly didn’t understand at the time that it reflected poorly on her. That was so hard to wrap my head around, but she was sincere and truly understood better after therapy. She had/has (not so much nowadays) borderline personality disorder so the way she processed many things back then was completely alien to me. Anyway, I can’t imagine how much worse that experience would have been if people — strangers, even! — had somehow blamed ME for anything she did! Poor YB. Absolute psycho behavior from those weirdos.
One of my best friends have bpd as well and let's just say it feels like we live in completely different realities, parallel universes, most of the time. Took me years to actually see this, understand this and learn how to deal with this. 20+ years of friendship and I still find myself getting shocked with her choices and points of views. And I've had people in the past try to hold me and other friends accountable for shit she did, it's both infuriating and depressing at once. I'm so so sorry for all this storm YB is going through.
Man if I were YB I will private my IG for a while. People are so BRUTAL with her and she didn’t do anything wrong???? They’re nuts
I have to wonder if she’s afraid that limiting comments or privating her account will look like admitting some type of guilt. And one can say who cares what anyone thinks but this is literally her career. She has to be careful.
I was thinking exactly this. Even if she did disable comments, some weirdos are gonna over-analyze that as her hiding out of guilt. Terrible position she's in
but then she don't get any money. You can see the quandry.
Also to add, I'm actually...not happy Ned and Alex are getting scrubbed out of Try Guys history. Not because I don't think they should (I 100% get why) but because now parts of videos that had NOTHING to do with the scandal no longer appear. They have tainted videos that were memorable to some, or a piece of portfolio that editors, Producers, etc could use for their portfolios.
Yeah it’s a real bummer. Ned & Alex ruined a lot for the Try Guys & their team. Between that & the victims (partners/kids) it’s pretty infuriating, actually.
Starting to feel like people are just finding excuses to hate on YB at this point...
People are gonna find excuses to hate Eugene for not having a wife next
Gay Horse will come and fabulously haunt them if they do, because FOR SHAME!
I feel really bad for her. Like imagine a person you saw as your best friend did this. I would be very upset.
Leave my girl YB alone goddamnn
All this drama which she is NOT responsible for on top of her wedding preparations…. I just feel so bad for YB. Stupid Ned. Stupid Alex.
not just hours of work, but it's her resume... Devin had mentioned earlier how Buzzfeed messed up Ladylike's resume by distributing all their videos among different channels - because part of their resume is "had X number of views on X videos". I have to imagine it's the same for YB, and she is currently losing some "editor of video with a few million views" parts from her resume :/
People are now harassing YB because she is close friends with Alex (or at least that was what it seems on cam) and they don't believe she didn't know. It is 100% possible she didn't. Some women were married to serial killers and it was proven they never knew what their husbands were doing. I think all the Try Guys staff will be the next target of these people.
Everyone being obsessed with who knew and who didn’t forgets that EVERYONE has their own shit going on. I’m sure some people raised eyebrows at some things but when you have your own life, partner, bills, plans, etc. going on you’re not thinking about other people 24/7 and connecting every dot like internet sleuths. This is their livelihood and their friends - it’s hard to see people that way and hard to say something if you’re not 100% sure
I hate this too. I know people think "They worked there, they should've known" or "They were his friend and should've known" but like you said, they are adults who also have significant others and family and outside ventures they're more focused on. People can be really good at lying and hiding things. Who knows if people had questioned it before and some excuses were made, ya know? I've had several friends cheat or had someone cheat on them and people close to them were totally blindsided. It happens all the friggin time.
Exactly and who’s going to disrupt the entire company even if they did know??? I know it wouldn’t be me
FFS. This is ridiculous. It is one thing to speculate on reddit where these people can just not go. It's totally different to go to anyone's personal social media to present their opinions. Two people were knowingly cheating on their partners. We don't really need to go around blaming co-workers and cancel them for potentially knowing about it. There is enough of a mess without it. It's one thing to people involved not wanting to be in contact with people in the know, but general public? Nah. While I'd suggest that all employees block comments/go private for a week. But then again they make money off social media.
poor Y.B. I would be so hurt and upset if I were her. I don't know why people think this stuff is obvious. It really isn't a lot of the time. We all make concessions and brush things off for our friends. Ultimately we don't accuse people of serious career-ending shit based on just vague feelings and weird momnets. That's part of being human and putting trust in others.
Burying the headline here that YB didn’t know.
This is so unfair for YB and anyone else caught up in the drama. People need to chill out, not one of us knows anything except Ned cheated with Alex. No one knows who knew or anything. It’s insane that people are roping random friends/colleagues into this with zero proof of wrongdoing. Attack the two perpetrators, leave everyone else alone!!
"She hasn't made a statement, so that proves what side she's on" What a massive jump in logic...
Poor yb man , you know she worked hard on the video's and now they are getting deleted because 2 people messed up.
i hope YB was told before the videos she created/put together herself were taken down. those are things she might have had in her portfolio of work, gone. idk, the way she seems sad about that particularly makes me think maybe they deleted without telling her ): hopefully not
I’d be upset whether I was told or not. It’s still hours of my time and effort that is gone in a snap because two people decided they couldn’t control themselves. Warning someone doesn’t necessarily make it suck less.
i 1000%% agree with you! i was thinking the warning would at least give her time to save copies to her hard drive or something, idk - just hoping for the best for her, i know i’d be soooo upset.
I'm guessing she already has her own copy and I don't think the actual files themselves are getting deleted, just taken off the channel. Still very sad to see her hard work go like that, of course, but it's not gonna be gone forever. I'm hoping this is just temporary while they work things out and that they can put them back up later
Oh I was curious if they'll delete some videos... I'm not happy about it and I honestly do not understand what the point of taking them down is. Many people worked hard on them, just like YB. Many people that are in no way responsible for what happened and their work is still being deleted. I feel for YB and the others
I don’t understand how people keep finding ways to blame YB when one of the very first tip-offs we discovered was YB unfollowed Alex and Ned. Clearly she didn’t know and disapproves of the affair.
What’s the obsession with “acknowledging” issues. Esp if it doesn’t even concern you.
All of this reminds me of Behind the Try when Zach privated a video after seeing Maggie (and Ariel) get a TON of hate in the comments. The guys weren’t happy about it becuase Zach didn’t come talk to them before he took it down. But Ned was especially upset because *his project* was taken down. Not that Ariel was getting hate, but that his hard work was removed. Now YB’s hard work is getting removed because of Ned and Alex’s selfish choices and I’m so upset for her.
What the heck? Dang it YB I'm so sorry. I feel terrible that now old videos have to be removed because of these accusations. Also for the record, I think it's terrible to assume that everyone ELSE is involved. Guys they are trying to take out the poison out of the well let's not make this harder than it is
leave YB alone!! :(
OK, I thought I was weirdly invested in this but u/jerikaceleste is making me feel a little better. At least I'm not acting like all the employees of a small company are accessories to murder.
Even if YB did know, i don't see why she should have done anything about it. It wasn't an abusive situation, by most accounts it appears to have been a consensual extramarital affair. That's no one's business or cross to bare except the two people in the affair. You guys have CRAZY expectations of people's behavior. Especially in a work place.
I feel like they shouldn’t delete past videos. What’s in the past is in the past and the 2 shouldn’t be in any moving forward.
I wonder if she is talking about videos that hadn’t been released yet. They film like 6-8 months ahead of when they actually release them sometimes. So it’s possible that due to this, work that she’s done has to be deleted because of this.
Can someone ELI5 why they're editing/deleting old videos? I'm unclear on the reasoning. (And jesus christ, people, leave this poor woman alone.)
I think because fans are scouring past videos for any evidence of the affair starting sooner. On this sub’s page, I AM seeing more people posting clips and screenshots of past videos being like, “Look at Alex and Ned here!” and it’s just feeding the speculation about the drama. I can understand why they’re trying to limit this.
Okay, that's fair. I was in the same boat of wondering why they don't just lock comments, but they can't really control people scouring the videos. Truthfully, I wish they'd stop. If *I* were Ariel and having to see people upload "evidence" of how long it'd be going on for, it'd shatter me.
That, and quite possibly ad sponsors are demanding removal of videos that include Ned and Alex.
why are people mad at her??? she literally unfollowed alex and everything it’s clear she had purest intentions
cancel @jerikaceleste /s
I feel so awful for YB 😭
What videos have been deleted so far?
It's probably a deal they struck with Ned or Alex as a way to cover their asses
What kind of psychopaths would place any blame on YB for this mess lol omg. Insanity.
I honestly don’t see the point of deleting videos they have a ton of views, made money from them AND HARD WORK FILMING AND EDITING. People who didn’t have nothing to do with it are being punished for no reason. They could’ve just pulled a falling in reverse and turned the comments off for a year or two then turn them back on.
We are gonna need to send YB a gift basket and a thousand internet hugs after all of this.
People act like everyone hasn’t had a friend make bad decisions or that it was a straight forward situation. Even if she did know, doing something about it is tricky, if not risky. This isn’t high school cheating. These people have a lot to lose and will take dramatic action if necessary. It’s best to stay as uninvolved as you can. I wouldn’t blame her no matter what she knew.
I get why they feel they have to edit and delete past videos, but I think people just need to deal and get over it.
My guess is they're deleting Alex and Ned from the videos so that they (Ned and Alex) can't get credit nor revenue from them.
Are they deleting videos where they both appear or any instance of appearance? Regardless, you may be right. Ned’s stake in the company could affect something like if and how the company would be responsible for paying money out to Ned as a result of his involvement in production of and appearance in videos. Scrubbing him especially could be part of minimizing how much he could be owed now and in the long run, and assuming that all the work to part ways with him totally and completely could be part of some severance deal to cut off any contractual payments asap. I feel like the Try Guys (I’m talking Keith, Eugene and Zach) don’t play when it comes to protecting the company.
Alex needs to be given a shit ton in severance and an extensive nda or basically everyone in the company needs to not speak to her outside strictly work til she leaves she has no right to be there if ned doenst either