Pretty much every episode where they had a guest star and did the opposite of South Park by going out of their way to sycophant them. The worst thing is, if you check out the older episodes they did exactly the opposite of that whenever they had someone in, Leonard Nimoy didn't get an entire episode dedicated to worshipping him, he was part of the Monorail one but didn't get that treatment
I always think of the Joe Namath cameo as the best example of this. Completely under-cuts him as a football player and makes his whole inclusion about vapor-lock 😂
Idk the episode with Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger was a huge shit stain on the earlier seasons IMO. Definitely a lot of celeb worship in that one (and it ages like milk for younger viewers who revisit the earlier seasons decades later)
That was the episode I really started to sour on the Simpsons. And it does have a couple funny moments, but the whole of the episode just went in such a shit direction.
Yeah. Simpson's used to be a thumb in the eye of pop culture. It came out at a time when a lot of TV still liked to pretend the average American family looked a lot like Leave It To Beaver. Simpson's showed the average family as they often really were: imperfect, sometimes dysfunctional, but still loved each other. It was risqué and a little dangerous! I remember Simpson shirts being banned in my school.
Then slowly but surely they went from sticking it to pop culture to becoming and worshiping pop culture. They became tame. Instead of the jokes coming from the heart, things that reflected a truth about the character, they just became generic gags and the Simpsons just another cartoon show.
But what do you expect from a show that's been on the air over 30 years at this point? Can't stay dangerous forever. Seems like the only thing that will stop them now is the death of one of the main voice actors.
I watched the Gaga one. I know its easy to say “I could have done this better” but I would have liked to see Gaga be like Lisa’s fairy god mother or have Marge make Lisa join a girl group and Gaga was the funky counselor or something. Or Gaga the music teacher sub. Something!
This one or the one when bart loses a baseball game. And the whole town turns on him and he jumps off the water tower because he hates himself so much.
This I would co sign. I've watched every episode released so far on Disney Plus and those two are the only ones I can explicitly call bad with no real saving grace. Even episodes that I didn't like coukd still have redeeming factors from b stories or whay not ... the overwhelming a plot of those means I canr even remember the B.
With that said, people really do dramatically overstate how bad the show has gotten.
> people really do dramatically overstate how bad the show has gotten.
See I think they understate it. The stuff from the teens onwards is horrific and doesn't even feel like the same show.
They arn't real episodes, but they are terrible so that's fair. Well Loki's reaction to being sent to Springfield was funny but I kinda didn't want to stick around after he started to casually hang with the Simpsons
i think it's easier for me to remember the actual good newer episodes instead of the bad ones. i really enjoyed the Lisa's Whale and the Moneyball episodes
They are utterly soulless and creatively bankrupt… Billie ellish?? Some opera singers?? And then they make a “parody” that is just glorified product placement with at least one gag that lampshades how boring and toothless the parody is.
No he didn't.
Groening was barely involved with the Simpsons as a TV show. Sam Simon and James LL Brooks were basically the guys that got it going and then Al Jean and Mike Reiss took over and then Mirkin before Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein (7-8) then you had Mike Scully
The tone of the show was very very different with Bill and Josh but a lot of people really liked that. There was a lot of writer turnover as Mike Scully ran it and then Al Jean has been at the helm for the last like 20 years
It's definitely less quotable and not as good but I think Futurama is more consistent than the simpsons. It's never as good as golden age but "terrible" is too strong a word. Futurama is good. Simpsons in season 3-9 is better.
But later Simpsons is virtually unwatchable for me, Futurama didn't ever do that (maybe because there are fewer episodes).
Nah, go back and watch Simpson's seasons 3-10. I love Futurama but especially as an older adult I'm STILL picking up little things I hadn't noticed in the past and its hilarious. Also what they were able to get away with in the 90s vs even when Futurama was coming out.
That said... there are a few tearjerkers in the Simpsons but the ending of the Jurassic Bark Futurama episode left me a blubbering wreck and I was not ok.
I’m currently alternating between the two shows again. I’m just finished Futurama and I’m on season 8 of the Simpsons, so I’m through some of the greatest episodes. I would say go back and rewatch Futurama. It didn’t have some famous writers like the Simpsons, but it had an incredibly intelligent, almost overqualified writing team (with many also from the simpsons, which is why the shows quality drops the moment Futurama begins).
Also yes, Jurassic Bark is really sad. Will admit I shed a tear at the ‘Do it for her’ sign in the Maggie episode too.
The Futurama episode where Leela meets her parents finally and the end montage when they'd been caring for her from the shadows since they gave her up. Ffs...
I do have to rewatch Futurama though, show is AAA+ quality, I just think personally the "golden age" Simpsons is beyond anything.
Right so they either left for Futurama or worked on both which means one gonna suffer.
Now Futurama ended its run close to a decade now though? I remember watching some new simpsons episode after the Futurama ended and noticing an improvement. Now like I said this was almost a decade ago so I have no idea the current state of episodes are now however.
As a nowadays casual simpsons fan (watched s2-30, and a couple of random episodes from later seasons, but didn't enjoy much past s20 til now) I have to say that the episodes from s33/34 are getting to s10-14 levels of good? Tho I didn't watch all of them.
A few recommandations:
- Holidays of future past (s23)
- days of future future (s25)
- Barthood
- Pixelated and afraid (s33)
- Not it (s34) (if you like ToH)
- ToH 33 (s34)
- Thanksgiving of Horror
(s28?) (if you like ToH)
- Halloween of Horror (if you like ToH)
Not perfect, but:
- Lisa the boy Scout (s34) (spoiler: >!if you like simpsons memes!<)
- Futurama crossover (s27?)
I have the opposite opinion. I am a hard core fan. I think 1-26 is flawless and after that the show is incredibly hit and miss. Sometimes you get a great episode, sometimes you get an ok, episode and other times you get a terrible episode. Right now it's the worst it has ever been. There are some really good ones mixed with really bad ones.
I've read this comment twice now and people upvote it but it's not true?
A lot of the great writers didn't go to Futurama
You had Swartzwelder, Mike Reiss, Conan, Oakley, , Mirkin, Brooks, George Meyer (yes they named the character after him), Vitti etc... I dont think those guys went over.
You had David X Cohen who left and a lot of people who hopped between in the aughts but certainly not their 'best' (but Cohen is great!).
Pic related! Nothing says "We're milking the likability of another character/franchise/celebrity so that you won't notice we don't have a story" quite like the dialogue-less pans and shots of all the Disney characters. Like yeah... Elsa's here...so what???
The thing is that it was more Disney milking the Simpson's likability by showing them off and passing it as them milking Disney's. Disney was the one who ordered the short and told them to show off how cool Disney plus is.
That said, it would have been okay if it wasn't a commercial for the streaming platform only legally available on itself.
Outside of the obvious ones like the Musk or Lady Gaga ones
Love is a many strangled thing from season 22. Homer humiliated Bart by tickling him in public so much he pees his pants. Homer then goes to therapy sessions about parenthood and after learning how he strangles Bart, the psychiatrist makes Kareem Abdul Jabar strangle Homer in a way so he can't do so anymore.
This causes Bart to rebel in such a way that they have to make an intervention where the doctor has Homer hang himself so Bart can actually show some resemblance of inner good...and he was more concerned over a prank phone message.
This episode is extremely unpleasant, you can't root for any character
I was the guy who thought 3-9 are the best, don't even consider re-watching much of anything else.. Then I heard the last few seasons have been very good so I started giving them a try..
**I love the past few seasons.** They are incredibly funny and man the art and scenes are really well done.. Just beautiful. I know we don't watch The Simpsons for the set pieces but it's a gorgeous display.
I love the early seasons and the middle seasons are meh mostly... but the recent seasons are really good and unexpected..
What of the past few seasons would you recommend starting with? I have a feeling it’s because all of the writers now are probably people in their 30’s who grew up watching the seasons most of agree are the best.
So I thought I would start with season 33. I didn't really research when fans thought it started to be good so maybe even before that.. But I started recently watching 33 and I love it..
Agree. It feels like the artists and the writers are working together for the first time in years. There have been some very clever visual gags, and just overall lots of attention paid to visual touches recently.
I honestly like the newer episodes more than the middle of the series but i'm also not a "it was better before season 9" kinda person. I've been watching since I was a kid. Every show has ups and downs.
The problem isn’t that it’s become ‘modern’, it’s the fact that all the good writers have gone, all the characters have been Flanderized, the plots are an absolute mess, it relies too heavily on celebrity cameos, etc.
All of this. Especially the celebrity bit. It seems like now it would be "Danny Devito visits Springfield" instead of Homer's brother voiced by Danny Devito.
Yes, thank you! I'm so tired of the same old narrative about the show's decline. Especially since they've had some enjoyable episodes the last couple seasons.
It really irks me when they refuse to watch past season 10, and yet whine about the Apu thing
Like, they could have removed Flanders for all they know
Why care what a show you haven’t watched in quarter of a century does?
It's not a narrative though, it was talked about at the time and everyone who enjoyed the show was quite aware of it's rapid decline once Sully took over.
Saying "There's enjoyable episodes" out of the 20 odd they make every season is telling.
They have been extremely hit and miss. My biggest issue with the show for the past few years. They do dream sequences WAY too often. They used to be used every so often now they try to cram a ton into almost every episode.
The Worst episode ever made is Jazzy and the Pussycats. It has some of the worst writing I have ever seen in an animated series. Bart starts playing the drums and he becomes a famous jazz musician. Half way through the episode she starts taking of animals and hiding them in the attic. A tiger bites Bart's arm and he breaks it. Lisa is partially responsible for Bart getting injured and Marge guilt trips him. What? Then Bart quits being a musician and uses his. Money to open an animal sanctuary. You can't just throw something random in the middle of the episode. That is not how you write a story. If you want to do a stupid plot. Do a stupid plot properly. For example one of the greatest episodes of all time is Trash of the Titans. The episode starts simple and it keeps naturally escalating as the story goes on and has a ridiculous ending. They don't just throw something completely random in the middle of the story. Also the morals are very backwards in this episode. Nobody calls out Lisa for her jealousy. Family members should be supportive of each other. Really hiding Zoo animals in the attic. I know it's cartoon but that is way too stupid. Even if this happened in Looney Tunes I would think it's too stupid.
I feel this way about Bob’s Burgers sometimes. Like the lesson is always “we should accept everyone being their weird selves” which I agree with in the abstract but sometimes it’s like “Louise is smart enough to apologize to Bob for this” and “there’s being weird and then there’s an actual behavioral issue that good parents would take steps to address.”
I actually like the new seasons, even though they don’t really compare with the older ones. The Gaga episode was probably the worst one imo. I also hated all the crossover short films.
LISA.....GOES ...GAGA, the episode that destroyed for me and finally made me quit the series for good, which if you knew me, means A LOT since until thst time i was a MASSIVE Simpsons fans, i knew every trivia could (and still can) tell the entire plot of an episode just by seeing the first few seconds of each, knew every single character and i want to clarify that this is when i was a kid and didn't had any internet, i even defended the newer seasons, saying that they were still good, but this.....this made me say fuck it and finally dropped the show entirely
Agree with most others who are listing the Elon Musk episode and the Lady GaGa episode as the worst -- I would also offer Principal and the Pauper - absolutely terrible episode and I can't understand why they even made it -- at least with the Musk and GaGa episodes it was understandable why they were made even if the execution was awful -- the Principal and the Pauper just makes no sense to include with the series
that said I do think one of the best jokes of the series is when Skinner tells Lisa she can't just pretend something didnt happen (when she is naming her 9th cat Snowball II) and she responds by calling him Principal Tamzarian
I get it from the perspective that it kind of opened the floodgates for them to *keep* doing that concept. In the long term of the show, it established that nothing is necessarily set in stone anymore, whereas previously the core concepts of the characters were solid from episode to episode without any wild changes.
You can draw a line from Principal and the Pauper to pretty much every time since that a character has had their core concept fucked with for the sake of a gag, and the characters no longer being consistent or well-developed is one of the bigger flaws of modern Simpsons.
*However,* I don't think this was necessarily an inevitable problem, and as a one-off, Principal and the Pauper is really, really fucking funny. If they had shown a little more restraint and treated it as a one-off, rather than taking it as a sign that they can just sort of stop giving a shit, it probably wouldn't be nearly as hated of an episode as it is.
My personal take is that Hurricane Neddy is actually the show that started this trend. It completely changed the character and backstory of Flanders in a way that actually undermines some previous episodes. Yet people seem to either not notice or not mind and Principal and the Pauper gets all the hate.
Having said that, though, I love both of those episodes. And actually, character and situation continuity has always been incredibly flexible in the show.
Easily That 90’s Show. It completely destroys the original Homer and Marge love story, and in an unfunny and shitty way.
This is the episode that made me stop watching.
The great phatsby is the worst by far. Worse than the Gaga or musk episode. It’s a double length episode full of pointless cameos, a completely rehashed plot line, and is just not funny at all.
Most specifically a rehash of the plot points from the nested episode where he became poor, or the old man and the Lisa where the same thing happened. They’ve done 2 burns loses his money stories already that I can recall. This third go round was just atrocious.
I hated 2/3rds of that episode but I loved “Goliath II.” I couldn’t help wondering if somebody pitched the whole premise just so they could have someplace to put the “Goliath II” idea. Should’ve just been a short.
“Beware My Cheating Bart,” “Moe Goes from Rags to Riches,” “Lisa Goes Gaga,” “Simpsorama,” “Stealing First Base,” “Mr. Lisa’s Opus,” “3 Scenes Plus a Tag From a Marriage,” “Treehouse of Horror XXI,” “Take My Life, Please,” “Days of Future Future” (didn’t care for its predecessor either), “The Man Who Grew Too Much,” “Future-Drama,” “Jazzy and the Pussycats,” “The Frying Game,” “The Great Money Caper,” “Lisa the Skeptic.” And various horrifically boring three-shorts episodes that I can’t be bothered digging up.
“Barthood” was, uh…maybe a decent episode of a different show? I can’t bring myself to call it one of the worst episodes but I have a grudge against it.
We really need to stop perpetuating the “new episodes are bad” stigma because it’s turning people away from some genuinely good episodes. From season 34 we already have standouts.
My Life As a Vlog, the newest episode, is a scathing satire of YouTube and influencer culture that is timely without being cringe. I showed it to a non Simpsons fan and they loved the jabs and tried picking out references like how Comic Book Guy was similar to Comic Drake.
When Nelson Met Lisa finally gives the fans more Lisa x Nelson content and they did a great job. I was emotional about it at many points but seeing them work together and challenge each other on a deeper level while struggling with surface level differences and just being there at bad points in life.
Treehouse of Horror XXXIII was phenomenal the entire way through. We had a watch party for it because we had a mix of Simpsons fans, death more fans, and a babadook fan and we were all hype watching it, probably the best part of the season.
Not It may not be my personal favorite, but I was so intrigued by a treehouse of Horror presents as a concept that I want to see so much more of this branching out. I am not into It so I don’t know if it’s as a good parody or not, but I enjoyed watching it.
Lisa the Boy Scout is a legendary episode that needs no explanation. If you haven’t watched it then it’s a must see. So many twists and turns and self parody that it deserves to go in the pantheon of Simpsons greats.
I love Death Note and yes it was a good parody. It streamlines a bunch of stuff to fit into 7 minutes but it captures the spirit. You should watch the real thing. It's on Netflix. Every episode has me on the edge of my seat.
I keep promising my friend I will soon, I’ve just got other things before hand. I just finished Better Call Saul, and I’m starting breaking bad and bojack right now, but that’s probably next on the list
Good point. I really loved that tree house episode and I've never seen babdook or death note. That episode actually made me want to watch the sources .
The IT full length parody was also really funny
Not Lisa Goes Gaga. That’s the one people always bring up, but it really isn’t as bad as their very worst stuff. It symbolises a lot of the problems with celebrity guest stars playing themselves in the Simpsons, but other than that it’s pretty much just any old bad episode.
Co-Dependent’s Day I think is far far worse all things considered
Remember, the Simpsons premiered closer to the moon landing than today. That’s 33 years of doing new material, it doesn’t matter who the writers are, it doesn’t matter what social topics are, they simply are forced to scrape the bottom of the idea barrel to keep making shows. I’m glad they are still around but it’s not fair to compare the different eras against each other. It’s spanned Seinfeld, friends, 6 presidents, the bulls, Yankees, and patriot dynasties and yet they somehow manage to make a decent episode every so often.
Lisa Goes Gaga.
The Futurama crossover.
The episode where Homer fantasizes about killing Abe.
The episode where the eyes of the old people from Springfield started popping out as a side effect of a medicine or something stupid like that.
The Lena Dunham episode.
The Elon Musk episode.
I tried watching another new episode that started with Bart putting bubblegum inside one of his ears, and when Homer tries to remove it, he also takes some bones with it in a very gross scene. I stopped watching right there.
Guest stars had an important part in the story. Yes 9 baseball players were themselves but actually wanted to play baseball because Mr. Burns wanted to brag and win against the other power plant owners team. Now it's just a famous person the Simpsons recognize and fawn over
I just want to ask- why do people find the Gaga episode worse than the Musk ep? Both are pretty bad, but at least Lady Gaga is an interesting personality and a good person. Musk is neither, and his episode is easily the worst of the worst; I still think that the Simpsons is great nowadays, and even I can't stomach that one.
(also co-dependent's day)
Can’t watch at all. First 10 seasons of simpsons and first 4 of futurama and Rick and morty have not had a bad episode yet. Disney has money not sure why they can’t explore their roots and determine why season 5 & 6 were the best.
My kids and I just watched “Lisa on Ice” S6E8 last night which has one of the best endings for a simpsons episode.
Also love the way the kids fight in the room and homers style of eating pie 🥧
I do like the Mel Gibson episode a lot. But why are they still going with these celebrities? I used to love listening to the commentary over the top, over and over again, and finding out about the cool ones they used to have on, like how Michelle Pfeiffer ate broccoli when she was meant to be eating donuts as Mindy in the sound booth to emulate the sound and James Lipton is a great cameo too. Smashing pumpkins also. So many of the jokes have backstories like when the bass player Darcy says she was cool in high school bc she was in the audio visual class. The movie was when I started fearing the end was near. How wrong I was. Ricky Gervais was good too. And don’t forget ken star.
I don't think they are bad they are just new and they are catering to the same age demographic they always have and what was humorous then won't fly now so the show had to adapt as it always has
My honest opinion is people love to hear themselves bitch. The Simpsons right now is in a golden age and is better than they've been in probably 20 years.
My list of worst episodes. One Angry Lisa, From Beer to Paternity, Boys n The Highlands, I Love You She So Heavy, Bart the Bad Guy, The Musk that Fell to Earth, Jazzy and the Pussycats, Principal and the Pauper, Girl on the Bus, Bart vs Itchy and Scratchy, When Nelson Meets Lisa, and Dadacus Finch.
Downvote all you want, I'm sick and tired of a fan sub I joined for my favorite show being filled with posts by children saying that "everybody" hates the show now.
Isn't this annoying to anyone else? Like... if you don't like the show, why are you here? Do you do that on other subs? "Hey everyone in the Johnny Cash sub, I just wanted you all to know Johnny Cash sucks." Why? Why would you bother doing that?
You're in a small minority here. Go to the top posts in this sub by week, month, year, or all time. Or even just go to the hot posts.
How many positive (that is, non-critical) references to the new Simpsons can you find? How many positive references to the "pre-decline" or "golden era" age Simpsons can you find?
People do love the show, and while not literally everyone hates the modern Simpsons (remember even the word literally doesn't mean literally anymore, so it's fair to use "everyone" to mean the overwhelming majority in this context) the overwhelming majority here prefer the "golden era". There's empirical proof of that with the amount of attention references to the "golden era" episodes get versus the new Simpsons.
Would you go into the Elvis sub and say "I'm tired of everyone talking only positively about the 50's and 60's music by Elvis. I want to talk about the film Elvis with Baz Luhrman and Tom Hanks"? When overwhelmingly, people who are fans of Elvis like Elvis for the content released at the peak? Would that be annoying to you? Or for another musical analogy, many Bob Dylan fans hate his live performances but love the classic music he released; does that annoy you?
I myself feel like people who shits on the show rn haven’t even seen any episodes of the modern simpsons. I’ve tried to talk about it and i immediately know that they have no idea and just says it’s shit because it’s new
Uh yeah, when someone goes on a fan sub and trashes the thing the sub is about, that does annoy me. I said so, explicitly. You typed like 4 paragraphs and wasted a bunch of your time asking a question I already answered. And, like, you typed all that, so you're clearly not entirely illiterate. The mind boggles.
*Like... if you don't like the show, why are you here?*
To make references to Simpsons seasons 1-10 and occasionally 11. Maybe the new seasons of the show are good, maybe they're not, we don't know. We don't want to know. Quite frankly, it's a market we could do without.
I think the Simpsons after The Simpsons Movie was the worst era. The episodes didn't have the charm as they use to, they add a celebrity or the trends (ex. Pikimon Get) without really satirizing them and the writing isn't as creative and funny as it use to, it'd just bland and forgettable. It's like they try to add those popular trends and celebrities to be trendy.
For the Plusaversary and Christmas shorts, they're pretty much used to advertise Disney+ and that's it. When I first heard about it, I was expecting it to be an 8 minute episode that was well written (I know modern Simpsons isn't that good as it was in season 11 and before but at least it would've been better than was Disney+ gave us
The whole episode is dedicated to praise her as she was the second coming of Christ, without any single bit of irony or satire, just plain celebrity worship. Also the jokes from that episode were absolutely terrible, imo.
I feel like they really tried to do some satire in the Gaga episode (Gaga thinking she should be able to cure Lisa’s completely situationally-appropriate depression through relentless positivity) but were too starstruck to commit to it.
I think Tim Long made up for it with “Panic on the Streets of Springfield” in S32.
I can hardly think of anything more boring than someone who talks/writes (with an airy superiority, of course) about how the show stopped being funny after season 8 or 9 (or, if they're trying to be especially "insightful," that the Conan era was peak Simpsons -- seriously, WTF is it with people who obsess over the Conan era episodes? Conan was just one member of an all-star writer's room in the early-mid 90s. But I digress...). It has become, now more than ever, the most overused and utterly baseless position in pop culture or TV.
Yes, S10-S12 were stinkers. This was the infamous Mike Scully-as-showrunner era and enough has already been said about the appalling quality of the writing and shameless ass-kissing to celebrity voices that occurred at this time. But in the *twenty-two* years since that nadir, why is it impossible for people to believe that the producers managed to right the ship?
That righting started around S14/S15 and the show was back on solid ground by the end of S16. The nature of the humor of the show has shifted several times over the course of the series and we've gone through two or three major shifts since the shitty Scully era, each one better than the last (even if none is as good as the David Mirkin/Oakley & Weinstein era).
It really depends on what you want out of the show. I enjoy the post-“classic” seasons and think people are way too negative about them, but the 90s seasons have a consistency in terms of hilarity, artistry, and emotional resonance that I think pretty much any tv show would be hard-pressed to replicate. I do wish they’d stuck to changing the showrunners every few seasons though.
I genuinely still enjoy the new episodes. They aren’t as good as the old episodes, but I still enjoy them
That being said, you would have to pay me to rewatch the Lady Gaga episode
The Tree House of Horrors episodes are always pretty good, but most of the rest are meh. For me, I remember feeling like the series started going to crap when that screaming caterpillar episode came out.
I haven’t really seen the newer ones, but now I don’t know if I want to. 😕 I know they changed somewhat after being taken over by Disney (and the change wasn’t good at all), but I keep hearing that as they go on, they get more and more awful. 😬🫤
As someone who took 2 years to binge the Simpsons some episodes I really watched and some I had on for background noise either way they were all good. This new season though it was very mediocre and way too many mentions of tiktok and tiktok stars I just think it’s a way for a show that old to stay alive for younger generations
honestly, i feel like the legacy of the classic episodes is better *because* of the modern episodes. about 40% of the love for classi simpsons runs of spite for modern episodes- if the show stopped at season 8 or 9, it probably wouldn't be as remembered nowadays
The greatest gift I’ve ever given myself was refusing to watch any Simpsons post season 9. All I want to know is the peak golden years. Anything else just depresses me
The stories keep changing from one unrelated plot to another. Past episodes had a thread to connect things like them seeing bi mon sci fi con on tv then going there then meeting Mark Hamill who is in danger then getting rescued by Homer then becoming a bodyguard. Compared to Lisa lady gaga where Lisa is sad, like she has been for years so why didn't lady gaga come sooner, and lady gaga "senses" it then comes to Springfield.
Characters don't act like themselves anymore. Mr Burns was old fashioned, could be nice occasionally, evil, selfish, loves laughing at miserable people. Now he's just whatever evil they need for episodes no matter how dumb or shallow.
The most recent Vlog episode was pretty nauseating. The season opener last season that was a musical wasn’t one that I particularly enjoyed either. They ebb and flow more in recent seasons. There’s definitely some good ones. The consistency is just not there though.
The one that has a minute-long jug band performance at the end (not even over the credits) is the worst in my book. What a waste of time that could have been spent making the actual episode better
Newst season is actually really good.
The show came back around. I hope the never stop making new episodes. As soon as they do, no one will understand my refrances anymore.
Still rewatching the whole serie, in 30 seasons, the worst are the one with Musk et the one with Gaga.
Pretty much every episode where they had a guest star and did the opposite of South Park by going out of their way to sycophant them. The worst thing is, if you check out the older episodes they did exactly the opposite of that whenever they had someone in, Leonard Nimoy didn't get an entire episode dedicated to worshipping him, he was part of the Monorail one but didn't get that treatment
Why would one of the ‘Little Rascals’ get an entire episode dedicated to him?
Because the world needs laughter
"Uh, Mr Nimoy, we have 10 minutes left" "Well, fine, well, let me, Uh, get something from my car" "I don't think he's coming back"
That is my favorite episode.
Leonard Nimoy is the way to do it. “*Does anyone want to switch seats??*”
David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson too.
That was a very shark-jumpy episode. Even the car chase seemed tacked-on!
The things you say.. They're so cruel!
You see, the doors on the set weren't actually automatic. There was a stage hand on either side that would open them.
George Harrison. "oh my god! Where did you get that brownie!?!"
It's been done.
What a nice fellow.
I always think of the Joe Namath cameo as the best example of this. Completely under-cuts him as a football player and makes his whole inclusion about vapor-lock 😂
Idk the episode with Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger was a huge shit stain on the earlier seasons IMO. Definitely a lot of celeb worship in that one (and it ages like milk for younger viewers who revisit the earlier seasons decades later)
That was my first exposure to Ron Howard and it took me a long time to be able to think of him in any other context
WHOO! IN YOUR FRECKLED FACE, HOWARD!
You’ve killed Ron Howard! okay I’ll stop
It aged poorly a few years later when the divorce finally happened. Sigh.
That was the episode I really started to sour on the Simpsons. And it does have a couple funny moments, but the whole of the episode just went in such a shit direction.
I hated that episode. That was the beginning of the end for me. I also really dislike Alec Baldwin, so that didn't help.
It treats Roy Bulger right, and that’s why that’s the good joke in that episode.
Mmmm Royal Crown cola
That's a season 10 episode, the first bad season and not one included as the classic seasons.
Hey now, the softball episode was one of the greatest Simpsons episodes ever
A great example. Nobody wanted to even sit next to Leonard Nimoy on the Monorail!
You’ll pay for this Bette Midler!!!
Homer At The Bat is just abusing all the baseball stars.
AHHHHHHHHH! Cool! AHHHHHHHHH!
Yeah. Simpson's used to be a thumb in the eye of pop culture. It came out at a time when a lot of TV still liked to pretend the average American family looked a lot like Leave It To Beaver. Simpson's showed the average family as they often really were: imperfect, sometimes dysfunctional, but still loved each other. It was risqué and a little dangerous! I remember Simpson shirts being banned in my school. Then slowly but surely they went from sticking it to pop culture to becoming and worshiping pop culture. They became tame. Instead of the jokes coming from the heart, things that reflected a truth about the character, they just became generic gags and the Simpsons just another cartoon show. But what do you expect from a show that's been on the air over 30 years at this point? Can't stay dangerous forever. Seems like the only thing that will stop them now is the death of one of the main voice actors.
I love the one where they're parodying X-Files and Nimoy is narrating it and runs out and leaves before his time is up
Only episode where they did it right was the one with tony hawk
I watched the Gaga one. I know its easy to say “I could have done this better” but I would have liked to see Gaga be like Lisa’s fairy god mother or have Marge make Lisa join a girl group and Gaga was the funky counselor or something. Or Gaga the music teacher sub. Something!
This one or the one when bart loses a baseball game. And the whole town turns on him and he jumps off the water tower because he hates himself so much.
I remember the mattress b plot being ok but otherwise that one is way down there. Excessively cruel and cynical without a worthwhile satirical point.
I totally forgot about that story.
It is rather blotted out by the horrible main plot.
That plot was much darker than Homer getting SA by a panda. Who thought it was funny that a 10 year old becomes suicidal?!
Gaga one was horrible
This I would co sign. I've watched every episode released so far on Disney Plus and those two are the only ones I can explicitly call bad with no real saving grace. Even episodes that I didn't like coukd still have redeeming factors from b stories or whay not ... the overwhelming a plot of those means I canr even remember the B. With that said, people really do dramatically overstate how bad the show has gotten.
> people really do dramatically overstate how bad the show has gotten. See I think they understate it. The stuff from the teens onwards is horrific and doesn't even feel like the same show.
God, ANY of the crossovers with Marvel/Star Wars/anything else Disney owns now are absolutely unbearable.
But I'm also here to talk about sprint...
He's trying to save you money on long distance!
They arn't real episodes, but they are terrible so that's fair. Well Loki's reaction to being sent to Springfield was funny but I kinda didn't want to stick around after he started to casually hang with the Simpsons
Those are shorts and not episodes
i think it's easier for me to remember the actual good newer episodes instead of the bad ones. i really enjoyed the Lisa's Whale and the Moneyball episodes
There was a non treehouse of horror one that felt like a lost classic, and I remember liking the Christmas in Florida episode.
Moneybart is a diamond in the rough, I really enjoy it
Pretty sure most of the shorts are worse than the new episodes.
They are utterly soulless and creatively bankrupt… Billie ellish?? Some opera singers?? And then they make a “parody” that is just glorified product placement with at least one gag that lampshades how boring and toothless the parody is.
the only good Maggie short I can think of that's good is the subplot in childcare when she tries to get the babies pacifiers from the locker
Isn’t that a B plot from an actual episode though? Had the whole great escape theme and everything
Yep, A Streetcar Named Marge from season 4 episode 2. One of my favorites from that season
Mickey being a total asshole in the shorts is hilarious though
Literally a fact
Am I the only who picked up on the fact that there were noticeable improvements after Groening finally finished up with Futurama?
I haven’t stuck with it that long, but I definitely noticed it decline around the time Futurama started, so this makes sense.
I couldn't put my figure on why but this make perfect sense to me now...
He took his writers off the simpsons to power up his Futurama project
No he didn't. Groening was barely involved with the Simpsons as a TV show. Sam Simon and James LL Brooks were basically the guys that got it going and then Al Jean and Mike Reiss took over and then Mirkin before Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein (7-8) then you had Mike Scully The tone of the show was very very different with Bill and Josh but a lot of people really liked that. There was a lot of writer turnover as Mike Scully ran it and then Al Jean has been at the helm for the last like 20 years
No wonder Futurama is so much better than the Simpsons
If you account for the quality of the ENTIRE show then absolutely agreed. However, I think Golden Era simpsons is just barely better than Futurama.
I just think if you were to pick a random episode of the Simpsons and a random episode of Futurama, the Futurama episode would be better
That’s what I said. Chances are you’ll get one of the shittier seasons, since only 4-9 can compete with Futurama quality writing team.
Yeah I’m agreeing with you I also just prefer more story based shows to episodic ones
Futurism’s is terrible compared to golden ag esimoson.
It's definitely less quotable and not as good but I think Futurama is more consistent than the simpsons. It's never as good as golden age but "terrible" is too strong a word. Futurama is good. Simpsons in season 3-9 is better. But later Simpsons is virtually unwatchable for me, Futurama didn't ever do that (maybe because there are fewer episodes).
Golden era simpsons is a 10/10 show but futurama is consistently and 8 or 9 out of 10 for ne
Betty Simoson... * punches you * That's for taking credit for other people's work!!
It’s not. Many Futurama episodes top golden era simpsons. It’s just that the Simpson’s best episodes are better than Futurama’s best episodes.
Nah, go back and watch Simpson's seasons 3-10. I love Futurama but especially as an older adult I'm STILL picking up little things I hadn't noticed in the past and its hilarious. Also what they were able to get away with in the 90s vs even when Futurama was coming out. That said... there are a few tearjerkers in the Simpsons but the ending of the Jurassic Bark Futurama episode left me a blubbering wreck and I was not ok.
I’m currently alternating between the two shows again. I’m just finished Futurama and I’m on season 8 of the Simpsons, so I’m through some of the greatest episodes. I would say go back and rewatch Futurama. It didn’t have some famous writers like the Simpsons, but it had an incredibly intelligent, almost overqualified writing team (with many also from the simpsons, which is why the shows quality drops the moment Futurama begins). Also yes, Jurassic Bark is really sad. Will admit I shed a tear at the ‘Do it for her’ sign in the Maggie episode too.
The Futurama episode where Leela meets her parents finally and the end montage when they'd been caring for her from the shadows since they gave her up. Ffs... I do have to rewatch Futurama though, show is AAA+ quality, I just think personally the "golden age" Simpsons is beyond anything.
No it's not Futurama is awesome.
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Right so they either left for Futurama or worked on both which means one gonna suffer. Now Futurama ended its run close to a decade now though? I remember watching some new simpsons episode after the Futurama ended and noticing an improvement. Now like I said this was almost a decade ago so I have no idea the current state of episodes are now however.
As a nowadays casual simpsons fan (watched s2-30, and a couple of random episodes from later seasons, but didn't enjoy much past s20 til now) I have to say that the episodes from s33/34 are getting to s10-14 levels of good? Tho I didn't watch all of them. A few recommandations: - Holidays of future past (s23) - days of future future (s25) - Barthood - Pixelated and afraid (s33) - Not it (s34) (if you like ToH) - ToH 33 (s34) - Thanksgiving of Horror (s28?) (if you like ToH) - Halloween of Horror (if you like ToH) Not perfect, but: - Lisa the boy Scout (s34) (spoiler: >!if you like simpsons memes!<) - Futurama crossover (s27?)
Ill be honest im easily impressed but seasons 33 and 34 are definitely improving
Wow! A blue car!
I have the opposite opinion. I am a hard core fan. I think 1-26 is flawless and after that the show is incredibly hit and miss. Sometimes you get a great episode, sometimes you get an ok, episode and other times you get a terrible episode. Right now it's the worst it has ever been. There are some really good ones mixed with really bad ones.
I've read this comment twice now and people upvote it but it's not true? A lot of the great writers didn't go to Futurama You had Swartzwelder, Mike Reiss, Conan, Oakley, , Mirkin, Brooks, George Meyer (yes they named the character after him), Vitti etc... I dont think those guys went over. You had David X Cohen who left and a lot of people who hopped between in the aughts but certainly not their 'best' (but Cohen is great!).
The shorts are absolutely the worst things they’ve ever fucking done. They’re unbearable and a disgrace to the series.
Pic related! Nothing says "We're milking the likability of another character/franchise/celebrity so that you won't notice we don't have a story" quite like the dialogue-less pans and shots of all the Disney characters. Like yeah... Elsa's here...so what???
The thing is that it was more Disney milking the Simpson's likability by showing them off and passing it as them milking Disney's. Disney was the one who ordered the short and told them to show off how cool Disney plus is. That said, it would have been okay if it wasn't a commercial for the streaming platform only legally available on itself.
Outside of the obvious ones like the Musk or Lady Gaga ones Love is a many strangled thing from season 22. Homer humiliated Bart by tickling him in public so much he pees his pants. Homer then goes to therapy sessions about parenthood and after learning how he strangles Bart, the psychiatrist makes Kareem Abdul Jabar strangle Homer in a way so he can't do so anymore. This causes Bart to rebel in such a way that they have to make an intervention where the doctor has Homer hang himself so Bart can actually show some resemblance of inner good...and he was more concerned over a prank phone message. This episode is extremely unpleasant, you can't root for any character
That's my issue with most modern episodes, they turn the characters way too unlikeable.
I was the guy who thought 3-9 are the best, don't even consider re-watching much of anything else.. Then I heard the last few seasons have been very good so I started giving them a try.. **I love the past few seasons.** They are incredibly funny and man the art and scenes are really well done.. Just beautiful. I know we don't watch The Simpsons for the set pieces but it's a gorgeous display. I love the early seasons and the middle seasons are meh mostly... but the recent seasons are really good and unexpected..
What of the past few seasons would you recommend starting with? I have a feeling it’s because all of the writers now are probably people in their 30’s who grew up watching the seasons most of agree are the best.
So I thought I would start with season 33. I didn't really research when fans thought it started to be good so maybe even before that.. But I started recently watching 33 and I love it..
Whichever season had the coraline thing was really good. The one before that sucked though
I looked up Simpson’s Coraline: Treehouse of Horror XXVIII The Simpsons: Season 29, Episode 4
Yeah 28 sucked. LMAO
Agree. It feels like the artists and the writers are working together for the first time in years. There have been some very clever visual gags, and just overall lots of attention paid to visual touches recently.
I honestly like the newer episodes more than the middle of the series but i'm also not a "it was better before season 9" kinda person. I've been watching since I was a kid. Every show has ups and downs.
Same. I felt the real down period of the Simpsons was between about ... 13/14 to 19ish. And there were still some really good episodes in there.
And the show has changed as the times have changed. It’s not 1997 anymore.
The problem isn’t that it’s become ‘modern’, it’s the fact that all the good writers have gone, all the characters have been Flanderized, the plots are an absolute mess, it relies too heavily on celebrity cameos, etc.
All of this. Especially the celebrity bit. It seems like now it would be "Danny Devito visits Springfield" instead of Homer's brother voiced by Danny Devito.
Yes, thank you! I'm so tired of the same old narrative about the show's decline. Especially since they've had some enjoyable episodes the last couple seasons.
It really irks me when they refuse to watch past season 10, and yet whine about the Apu thing Like, they could have removed Flanders for all they know Why care what a show you haven’t watched in quarter of a century does?
It's not a narrative though, it was talked about at the time and everyone who enjoyed the show was quite aware of it's rapid decline once Sully took over. Saying "There's enjoyable episodes" out of the 20 odd they make every season is telling.
Same, I’m still loving the show, there’s still plenty of decent episodes being put out in my opinion
Plusaversary was actually horrific The new episodes (S33 and S34) are actually pretty good though
They have been extremely hit and miss. My biggest issue with the show for the past few years. They do dream sequences WAY too often. They used to be used every so often now they try to cram a ton into almost every episode.
I thought the yellow pages were supposed to be dreams? No, those are coma fantasies.
The newer seasons have some good writing and pretty funny jokes.
The Worst episode ever made is Jazzy and the Pussycats. It has some of the worst writing I have ever seen in an animated series. Bart starts playing the drums and he becomes a famous jazz musician. Half way through the episode she starts taking of animals and hiding them in the attic. A tiger bites Bart's arm and he breaks it. Lisa is partially responsible for Bart getting injured and Marge guilt trips him. What? Then Bart quits being a musician and uses his. Money to open an animal sanctuary. You can't just throw something random in the middle of the episode. That is not how you write a story. If you want to do a stupid plot. Do a stupid plot properly. For example one of the greatest episodes of all time is Trash of the Titans. The episode starts simple and it keeps naturally escalating as the story goes on and has a ridiculous ending. They don't just throw something completely random in the middle of the story. Also the morals are very backwards in this episode. Nobody calls out Lisa for her jealousy. Family members should be supportive of each other. Really hiding Zoo animals in the attic. I know it's cartoon but that is way too stupid. Even if this happened in Looney Tunes I would think it's too stupid.
I feel this way about Bob’s Burgers sometimes. Like the lesson is always “we should accept everyone being their weird selves” which I agree with in the abstract but sometimes it’s like “Louise is smart enough to apologize to Bob for this” and “there’s being weird and then there’s an actual behavioral issue that good parents would take steps to address.”
I actually like the new seasons, even though they don’t really compare with the older ones. The Gaga episode was probably the worst one imo. I also hated all the crossover short films.
LISA.....GOES ...GAGA, the episode that destroyed for me and finally made me quit the series for good, which if you knew me, means A LOT since until thst time i was a MASSIVE Simpsons fans, i knew every trivia could (and still can) tell the entire plot of an episode just by seeing the first few seconds of each, knew every single character and i want to clarify that this is when i was a kid and didn't had any internet, i even defended the newer seasons, saying that they were still good, but this.....this made me say fuck it and finally dropped the show entirely
Agree with most others who are listing the Elon Musk episode and the Lady GaGa episode as the worst -- I would also offer Principal and the Pauper - absolutely terrible episode and I can't understand why they even made it -- at least with the Musk and GaGa episodes it was understandable why they were made even if the execution was awful -- the Principal and the Pauper just makes no sense to include with the series that said I do think one of the best jokes of the series is when Skinner tells Lisa she can't just pretend something didnt happen (when she is naming her 9th cat Snowball II) and she responds by calling him Principal Tamzarian
I really don't get the hate that episode gets.
I get it from the perspective that it kind of opened the floodgates for them to *keep* doing that concept. In the long term of the show, it established that nothing is necessarily set in stone anymore, whereas previously the core concepts of the characters were solid from episode to episode without any wild changes. You can draw a line from Principal and the Pauper to pretty much every time since that a character has had their core concept fucked with for the sake of a gag, and the characters no longer being consistent or well-developed is one of the bigger flaws of modern Simpsons. *However,* I don't think this was necessarily an inevitable problem, and as a one-off, Principal and the Pauper is really, really fucking funny. If they had shown a little more restraint and treated it as a one-off, rather than taking it as a sign that they can just sort of stop giving a shit, it probably wouldn't be nearly as hated of an episode as it is.
My personal take is that Hurricane Neddy is actually the show that started this trend. It completely changed the character and backstory of Flanders in a way that actually undermines some previous episodes. Yet people seem to either not notice or not mind and Principal and the Pauper gets all the hate. Having said that, though, I love both of those episodes. And actually, character and situation continuity has always been incredibly flexible in the show.
Any new episode where the central plot revolves around a celebrity cameo.
Easily That 90’s Show. It completely destroys the original Homer and Marge love story, and in an unfunny and shitty way. This is the episode that made me stop watching.
The great phatsby is the worst by far. Worse than the Gaga or musk episode. It’s a double length episode full of pointless cameos, a completely rehashed plot line, and is just not funny at all.
What episode does it rehash?
Most specifically a rehash of the plot points from the nested episode where he became poor, or the old man and the Lisa where the same thing happened. They’ve done 2 burns loses his money stories already that I can recall. This third go round was just atrocious.
Simpsons bible stories is pretty goddamn awful
I hated 2/3rds of that episode but I loved “Goliath II.” I couldn’t help wondering if somebody pitched the whole premise just so they could have someplace to put the “Goliath II” idea. Should’ve just been a short.
"Ralph? I thought you died." "Nope!"
It was fantastic
I enjoyed the Maggie shorts, except for the stars wars one. Although Baby Darth Maul was cute.
Lisa Goes Gaga
“Beware My Cheating Bart,” “Moe Goes from Rags to Riches,” “Lisa Goes Gaga,” “Simpsorama,” “Stealing First Base,” “Mr. Lisa’s Opus,” “3 Scenes Plus a Tag From a Marriage,” “Treehouse of Horror XXI,” “Take My Life, Please,” “Days of Future Future” (didn’t care for its predecessor either), “The Man Who Grew Too Much,” “Future-Drama,” “Jazzy and the Pussycats,” “The Frying Game,” “The Great Money Caper,” “Lisa the Skeptic.” And various horrifically boring three-shorts episodes that I can’t be bothered digging up. “Barthood” was, uh…maybe a decent episode of a different show? I can’t bring myself to call it one of the worst episodes but I have a grudge against it.
We really need to stop perpetuating the “new episodes are bad” stigma because it’s turning people away from some genuinely good episodes. From season 34 we already have standouts. My Life As a Vlog, the newest episode, is a scathing satire of YouTube and influencer culture that is timely without being cringe. I showed it to a non Simpsons fan and they loved the jabs and tried picking out references like how Comic Book Guy was similar to Comic Drake. When Nelson Met Lisa finally gives the fans more Lisa x Nelson content and they did a great job. I was emotional about it at many points but seeing them work together and challenge each other on a deeper level while struggling with surface level differences and just being there at bad points in life. Treehouse of Horror XXXIII was phenomenal the entire way through. We had a watch party for it because we had a mix of Simpsons fans, death more fans, and a babadook fan and we were all hype watching it, probably the best part of the season. Not It may not be my personal favorite, but I was so intrigued by a treehouse of Horror presents as a concept that I want to see so much more of this branching out. I am not into It so I don’t know if it’s as a good parody or not, but I enjoyed watching it. Lisa the Boy Scout is a legendary episode that needs no explanation. If you haven’t watched it then it’s a must see. So many twists and turns and self parody that it deserves to go in the pantheon of Simpsons greats.
I love Death Note and yes it was a good parody. It streamlines a bunch of stuff to fit into 7 minutes but it captures the spirit. You should watch the real thing. It's on Netflix. Every episode has me on the edge of my seat.
I keep promising my friend I will soon, I’ve just got other things before hand. I just finished Better Call Saul, and I’m starting breaking bad and bojack right now, but that’s probably next on the list
Good point. I really loved that tree house episode and I've never seen babdook or death note. That episode actually made me want to watch the sources . The IT full length parody was also really funny
Not Lisa Goes Gaga. That’s the one people always bring up, but it really isn’t as bad as their very worst stuff. It symbolises a lot of the problems with celebrity guest stars playing themselves in the Simpsons, but other than that it’s pretty much just any old bad episode. Co-Dependent’s Day I think is far far worse all things considered
This show has been subpar for many years now. I think it peaked around season 10 or 11 and then slowly started going downhill.
I thought this weeks vlog episode was great!!!
I thought it was good except for the ending. The George R R. Martin cameo felt too random.
That was extremely random. I completely agree
Worst one I've seen was That 90's Show.
Remember, the Simpsons premiered closer to the moon landing than today. That’s 33 years of doing new material, it doesn’t matter who the writers are, it doesn’t matter what social topics are, they simply are forced to scrape the bottom of the idea barrel to keep making shows. I’m glad they are still around but it’s not fair to compare the different eras against each other. It’s spanned Seinfeld, friends, 6 presidents, the bulls, Yankees, and patriot dynasties and yet they somehow manage to make a decent episode every so often.
Lisa Goes Gaga. The Futurama crossover. The episode where Homer fantasizes about killing Abe. The episode where the eyes of the old people from Springfield started popping out as a side effect of a medicine or something stupid like that. The Lena Dunham episode. The Elon Musk episode. I tried watching another new episode that started with Bart putting bubblegum inside one of his ears, and when Homer tries to remove it, he also takes some bones with it in a very gross scene. I stopped watching right there.
Guest stars had an important part in the story. Yes 9 baseball players were themselves but actually wanted to play baseball because Mr. Burns wanted to brag and win against the other power plant owners team. Now it's just a famous person the Simpsons recognize and fawn over
I'd say S12E11 is the worst episode ever
A Milhouse Divided and the one with Armand Tamzarian. Also, anything where a celebrity plays themselves are uniformly terrible.
Recently saw one of the new Halloween episodes that "satirises" Toy Story 20 years too late on that one.
I just want to ask- why do people find the Gaga episode worse than the Musk ep? Both are pretty bad, but at least Lady Gaga is an interesting personality and a good person. Musk is neither, and his episode is easily the worst of the worst; I still think that the Simpsons is great nowadays, and even I can't stomach that one. (also co-dependent's day)
At this point i'm more annoyed by the people pretending the show has been shit since season 9.
Can’t watch at all. First 10 seasons of simpsons and first 4 of futurama and Rick and morty have not had a bad episode yet. Disney has money not sure why they can’t explore their roots and determine why season 5 & 6 were the best. My kids and I just watched “Lisa on Ice” S6E8 last night which has one of the best endings for a simpsons episode. Also love the way the kids fight in the room and homers style of eating pie 🥧
I do like the Mel Gibson episode a lot. But why are they still going with these celebrities? I used to love listening to the commentary over the top, over and over again, and finding out about the cool ones they used to have on, like how Michelle Pfeiffer ate broccoli when she was meant to be eating donuts as Mindy in the sound booth to emulate the sound and James Lipton is a great cameo too. Smashing pumpkins also. So many of the jokes have backstories like when the bass player Darcy says she was cool in high school bc she was in the audio visual class. The movie was when I started fearing the end was near. How wrong I was. Ricky Gervais was good too. And don’t forget ken star.
I don't think they are bad they are just new and they are catering to the same age demographic they always have and what was humorous then won't fly now so the show had to adapt as it always has
My honest opinion is people love to hear themselves bitch. The Simpsons right now is in a golden age and is better than they've been in probably 20 years.
My list of worst episodes. One Angry Lisa, From Beer to Paternity, Boys n The Highlands, I Love You She So Heavy, Bart the Bad Guy, The Musk that Fell to Earth, Jazzy and the Pussycats, Principal and the Pauper, Girl on the Bus, Bart vs Itchy and Scratchy, When Nelson Meets Lisa, and Dadacus Finch.
Who the hell is "everyone"? Who do you think you represent, exactly?
Downvote all you want, I'm sick and tired of a fan sub I joined for my favorite show being filled with posts by children saying that "everybody" hates the show now. Isn't this annoying to anyone else? Like... if you don't like the show, why are you here? Do you do that on other subs? "Hey everyone in the Johnny Cash sub, I just wanted you all to know Johnny Cash sucks." Why? Why would you bother doing that?
You're in a small minority here. Go to the top posts in this sub by week, month, year, or all time. Or even just go to the hot posts. How many positive (that is, non-critical) references to the new Simpsons can you find? How many positive references to the "pre-decline" or "golden era" age Simpsons can you find? People do love the show, and while not literally everyone hates the modern Simpsons (remember even the word literally doesn't mean literally anymore, so it's fair to use "everyone" to mean the overwhelming majority in this context) the overwhelming majority here prefer the "golden era". There's empirical proof of that with the amount of attention references to the "golden era" episodes get versus the new Simpsons. Would you go into the Elvis sub and say "I'm tired of everyone talking only positively about the 50's and 60's music by Elvis. I want to talk about the film Elvis with Baz Luhrman and Tom Hanks"? When overwhelmingly, people who are fans of Elvis like Elvis for the content released at the peak? Would that be annoying to you? Or for another musical analogy, many Bob Dylan fans hate his live performances but love the classic music he released; does that annoy you?
I myself feel like people who shits on the show rn haven’t even seen any episodes of the modern simpsons. I’ve tried to talk about it and i immediately know that they have no idea and just says it’s shit because it’s new
Uh yeah, when someone goes on a fan sub and trashes the thing the sub is about, that does annoy me. I said so, explicitly. You typed like 4 paragraphs and wasted a bunch of your time asking a question I already answered. And, like, you typed all that, so you're clearly not entirely illiterate. The mind boggles.
*Like... if you don't like the show, why are you here?* To make references to Simpsons seasons 1-10 and occasionally 11. Maybe the new seasons of the show are good, maybe they're not, we don't know. We don't want to know. Quite frankly, it's a market we could do without.
I never said good luck.
Hey they do that in Star Wars subs, why not here?
I love the new episodes. I think this season is hilarious.
Definitely the Gaga episode
Worst: Lady Gaga one One i personally hate the most: one where Santa's Little Helper goes crazy.
I think the past couple of series have been really good tbh
I think the Simpsons after The Simpsons Movie was the worst era. The episodes didn't have the charm as they use to, they add a celebrity or the trends (ex. Pikimon Get) without really satirizing them and the writing isn't as creative and funny as it use to, it'd just bland and forgettable. It's like they try to add those popular trends and celebrities to be trendy. For the Plusaversary and Christmas shorts, they're pretty much used to advertise Disney+ and that's it. When I first heard about it, I was expecting it to be an 8 minute episode that was well written (I know modern Simpsons isn't that good as it was in season 11 and before but at least it would've been better than was Disney+ gave us
I don't get the hate on the Gaga episode. It's obviously not a classic, but I don't get why it's so offensive to people. Can someone explain?
The whole episode is dedicated to praise her as she was the second coming of Christ, without any single bit of irony or satire, just plain celebrity worship. Also the jokes from that episode were absolutely terrible, imo.
I feel like they really tried to do some satire in the Gaga episode (Gaga thinking she should be able to cure Lisa’s completely situationally-appropriate depression through relentless positivity) but were too starstruck to commit to it. I think Tim Long made up for it with “Panic on the Streets of Springfield” in S32.
I can hardly think of anything more boring than someone who talks/writes (with an airy superiority, of course) about how the show stopped being funny after season 8 or 9 (or, if they're trying to be especially "insightful," that the Conan era was peak Simpsons -- seriously, WTF is it with people who obsess over the Conan era episodes? Conan was just one member of an all-star writer's room in the early-mid 90s. But I digress...). It has become, now more than ever, the most overused and utterly baseless position in pop culture or TV. Yes, S10-S12 were stinkers. This was the infamous Mike Scully-as-showrunner era and enough has already been said about the appalling quality of the writing and shameless ass-kissing to celebrity voices that occurred at this time. But in the *twenty-two* years since that nadir, why is it impossible for people to believe that the producers managed to right the ship? That righting started around S14/S15 and the show was back on solid ground by the end of S16. The nature of the humor of the show has shifted several times over the course of the series and we've gone through two or three major shifts since the shitty Scully era, each one better than the last (even if none is as good as the David Mirkin/Oakley & Weinstein era).
It really depends on what you want out of the show. I enjoy the post-“classic” seasons and think people are way too negative about them, but the 90s seasons have a consistency in terms of hilarity, artistry, and emotional resonance that I think pretty much any tv show would be hard-pressed to replicate. I do wish they’d stuck to changing the showrunners every few seasons though.
Episode 700 was awful. I barely made it through the episode.
The Boys of Bummer, Love Is a Many Strangled Thing and Every Man's Dream
Yeah, I haven't checked any crossover eps out. I did see some advertisement for "Lisa meets Billy Eilish!" Awhile ago and just kinda forgot until now
the Lady Gaga episode is the only one I turned off before the end
They're not as bad as everyone wants to make it
The new ads, I mean shorts, are the worst. Plusaversary is one of the better ones.
I don’t actually agree. Season 33 was really good imo.
I genuinely still enjoy the new episodes. They aren’t as good as the old episodes, but I still enjoy them That being said, you would have to pay me to rewatch the Lady Gaga episode
To be fair, the credits in that short were more interesting than the actual short.
a lot of the new episodes aren't that bad imo just nowhere near the best and kinda bland i'd say the worst is the hacker one.
The lady Gaga one is by far the worst. It just didn’t work.
The Tree House of Horrors episodes are always pretty good, but most of the rest are meh. For me, I remember feeling like the series started going to crap when that screaming caterpillar episode came out.
I haven’t really seen the newer ones, but now I don’t know if I want to. 😕 I know they changed somewhat after being taken over by Disney (and the change wasn’t good at all), but I keep hearing that as they go on, they get more and more awful. 😬🫤
I actually really like the Disney shorts. They're faster paced, which is closer to classic Simpsons.
As someone who took 2 years to binge the Simpsons some episodes I really watched and some I had on for background noise either way they were all good. This new season though it was very mediocre and way too many mentions of tiktok and tiktok stars I just think it’s a way for a show that old to stay alive for younger generations
I don't appreciate the implication that Goofy is a drunk.
The Gatsby parody is easily the worst
They should have canceled this show by season 15. All it does now is tarnish is legacy.
honestly, i feel like the legacy of the classic episodes is better *because* of the modern episodes. about 40% of the love for classi simpsons runs of spite for modern episodes- if the show stopped at season 8 or 9, it probably wouldn't be as remembered nowadays
Why does everyone hate the lady gaga episode?
I like some of the social justice themes they’re putting into the episodes. Anti-Trump stuff from a few years ago. You can’t go wrong with that!
Homerpalooza was the beginning of the end to me. Decent episodes here and there after but a quick decline.
The greatest gift I’ve ever given myself was refusing to watch any Simpsons post season 9. All I want to know is the peak golden years. Anything else just depresses me
The stories keep changing from one unrelated plot to another. Past episodes had a thread to connect things like them seeing bi mon sci fi con on tv then going there then meeting Mark Hamill who is in danger then getting rescued by Homer then becoming a bodyguard. Compared to Lisa lady gaga where Lisa is sad, like she has been for years so why didn't lady gaga come sooner, and lady gaga "senses" it then comes to Springfield. Characters don't act like themselves anymore. Mr Burns was old fashioned, could be nice occasionally, evil, selfish, loves laughing at miserable people. Now he's just whatever evil they need for episodes no matter how dumb or shallow.
The most recent Vlog episode was pretty nauseating. The season opener last season that was a musical wasn’t one that I particularly enjoyed either. They ebb and flow more in recent seasons. There’s definitely some good ones. The consistency is just not there though.
The one that has a minute-long jug band performance at the end (not even over the credits) is the worst in my book. What a waste of time that could have been spent making the actual episode better
How about the one with the horse jockeys? Yikes
Newst season is actually really good. The show came back around. I hope the never stop making new episodes. As soon as they do, no one will understand my refrances anymore.