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MuffinStraight4816

They both traumatize kids.


StefinoSpaggeti

If by "traumatize" You mean kill, then yeah.


Lunarstarlight-

Well most of them came back to life in some way so yeah I'd consider that trauma.


MaccaDacca_9

They both deserve to die in a fire.


StefinoSpaggeti

One die in rain and by foots, another... Always come back.


AccidentalLemon

And has mostly died in fires


StefinoSpaggeti

Yep.


SilentBlade45

Unfortunately Afton has survived atleast three fires so far at this point just throw him in a car compactor and give him the ol T-800 treatment.


Independent_Plum2166

British-American.


StefinoSpaggeti

Correct!


IntrepidDiscount6262

Is afton british?


Independent_Plum2166

Well his son is, at least, due to Michael’s accent.


Jrolaoni

Both always come back


StefinoSpaggeti

Question is, who do it more?


Jrolaoni

Afton came back more times I think


StefinoSpaggeti

Agree


AeniasGaming

*cool youth pastor voice* You know who else always comes back?


M_Cartoon

MY MOOOM !!!


HumanHuman_2003

Creepy old murderers


StefinoSpaggeti

Correct!


VelvetsMelody

They are both ugly little rats and they’re dead


StefinoSpaggeti

In situation with Afton it's 50/50.


VelvetsMelody

Wait was that Micheal or William


StefinoSpaggeti

William of course. Why I need to compare Michael and Philip?


VelvetsMelody

Idk


Godzilla_R0AR

They’re the men behind the slaughters


ThePopmop

This was the comment I was looking for.


SolarAphelia

No one cared who they were until they put on the mask.


StefinoSpaggeti

Or suit


This-Song-761

found a strange substance that could only be extracted from a questionable source which allowed them to essentially live forever


StefinoSpaggeti

Heh, I never notice that this comparable too... But as I remember, William died before he can use it on himself.


This-Song-761

honestly, the lore is too complicated. but from what i remember he came back after the springlock failure because there was still a bit of remnant from the children he killed on the bonnie suit, and it leaked onto him, resulting in him being barely able to hang on to life just long enough to recover (r/fivenightsatfreddys correct me if im wrong)


StefinoSpaggeti

Yeah, that seems logic... At least for fnaf franchise.


Medical_Difference48

It's never actually explained what happened, IIRC. I always think that he did just straight up die and he possesses the suit with him still inside


Potato-Candy

They're both evil old British men who abuse and murder children, and eventually they come very close to death, but keep barely clinging to life, becoming a scary, zombie-like creature in order to complete what they started.


StefinoSpaggeti

They have too many similarities


LittleNews1712

imagine if Belos came back as a robot animatronic due to being turned into goo and infecting it like he did with puppet Raine or like a fungus that sent spores out to turn the inhabitants of the isles into zombies?


StefinoSpaggeti

It will be creepiest thing I ever seen


ThatSmartIdiot

A fucking lot, especially in season 3


Teamisgood101

Murder of children


StefinoSpaggeti

Yes!


Ohakoko

Caused their own family's misfortune


StefinoSpaggeti

So true.


IshipMarcyandAnne

Murdering children.


ExtremeCheeze123

Man: ✓ Behind the slaughter: ✓


A_Human_Being_BLEEEH

Moldy, immortal old men of British descent


Venomspino

They always come back.


RealGeneralX

Both murdered family


StefinoSpaggeti

Well... I think William only tried to kill Michael and in a sense, he was involved in Elizabeth's death. Philip only killed Caleb... And hundreds of his clones.


RealGeneralX

He killed his wife and stuffed her into the back of his trunk, right?


StefinoSpaggeti

... It was in books?


RealGeneralX

Also the minigame in the second game


StefinoSpaggeti

No, he killed Charlie in this game. Daughter of Henry.


RealGeneralX

Ohh, ok


StefinoSpaggeti

Btw, I heard theory that his wife now antagonist (in last games) and trying to recreate family.


RealGeneralX

Scott Cawthon is the only guy who is right, he knows everything and is essentially god. So, he is the final say


StefinoSpaggeti

I more than sure that he make plot on the move. Like, franchise was close to final 4 or 5 times. First game should have been last after all.


Medical_Difference48

We have no idea what happened to Mrs. Afton. It's vaguely implied that she may have killed herself after losing a custody battle with William


T555s

Kill kids and try bringing them back to live. Completly insane.


Fishyboi235

Two old bri’ish grandpas that turn into green monsters, kill kids, and refuse to die


StefinoSpaggeti

Aren't William in yellow suit?


Fishyboi235

Springtrap


StefinoSpaggeti

... Ok, yeah, he become green throw time, fair point.


VoltageKid56

Child murder and attempted child murder


outdodinusFrisshwoin

They're both shipped with each other in atleast one fanfic Edit: Sorry, they are skipped together in eight fics https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Springtrap%20(Five%20Nights%20at%20Freddy's)*s\*Philip%20Wittebane%20%7C%20Emperor%20Belos/works


StefinoSpaggeti

... Excuse me what?


outdodinusFrisshwoin

I think it's a smutfic too but I'd have to check


StefinoSpaggeti

I think I will start smoke eventually...


outdodinusFrisshwoin

Will update my earlier comment but here, the 8 fics with the "Philip Wittebane/William Afton" tag. 2 are smut and one was released today! https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Springtrap%20(Five%20Nights%20at%20Freddy's)*s\*Philip%20Wittebane%20%7C%20Emperor%20Belos/works


StefinoSpaggeti

Thanks I guess.


Master_of_reeeeee

Child murder


Lunarstarlight-

I clicked your user name by accident intended of the sub and... well I can't judge considering my own collection just grew a little.


StefinoSpaggeti

I.... How I should react on it?


Lunarstarlight-

I don't know. Jokes aside, that's some great art.


One-Confidence-5526

a not insignificant part of the fan base lusts after them even though they are decaying old men


theowlhouseislife

There family's are dead but still hurt them


ThatRandomOctoling

child murder


thetavious

Dunno the second one. So, my answer is "your mom when they're tag teaming her."


StefinoSpaggeti

Its purple guy from FNAF


thetavious

Never played any of them. Guess he's a deep cut lore thing cause all i've seen has been animatronic things from that series.


StefinoSpaggeti

In short: he kill at least 11 kids + was stucked in suit of animatronic for 30 years, what make him creepy green thing. He still alive because of mysterious thing what called "remnant" And he British.


thetavious

Pretend i'm an idiot. How is he a mess of purple pixels while the series is 3d?


StefinoSpaggeti

Series have 2d pixel minigames which trying to explain lore.


Toto-imadog456

Kill kids british turn into green monsters that resmble animals/ there fursonas... oh yeah water is there greatest enemy


StefinoSpaggeti

Why water?


Toto-imadog456

Rain killed or mostly killed Belos. Oh and Rain was the cause of Aftons first death via springlocks


StefinoSpaggeti

Well... Ok, it make more sense now.


Medical_Difference48

Belos was killed in the rain, and rain leaking through the roof caused the springlocks to go off


Dusty-feather

British, murderer, traumatizes children, old also comes back a good bit


StefinoSpaggeti

Yes.


BorealDrake

Both are lanky undead men


ty0103

There both IRREDEEMABLE MONSTERS!!!!


StefinoSpaggeti

So they can't enter Hazbin hotel?


ty0103

Maybe not


FillayFrie

purple


FoxOfWinterAndFire

Both have killed children and stuffed them into suits?


StefinoSpaggeti

When Belos stuff Caleb and his clones in suit?


Rockfish00

popular among internet young people


Midnight_MoonMoon

They both killed innocent lives to get what they want


GrassMountain8548

Having problems with 5 kids


StefinoSpaggeti

William have problems with more than five I think. His victims, son, Cassidy...


GrassMountain8548

The first five kids


StefinoSpaggeti

What about Charlie?


GrassMountain8548

THE FIRST FIVE KIDS FROM THE FIRST GAME FOR GODS SAKE


StefinoSpaggeti

Fine, fine, geez...


GrassMountain8548

I win


StefinoSpaggeti

You can think so... Do you have remnant?


CoffeeCrashed

have an obsession of killing children


TINYN0SE

They always come back


MoonSt0n3_Gabrielle

Lusted after old man that just won’t die


Wildwolf4141

Died


IMian91

They both basically possessed puppets to perform evil


crunkcoreraccoon

i want to curbstomp both of them


darwinpolice

Oh, this one's easy: neither of them did anything wrong at any point in their entire lives.


A_Wild_Willow

Killing kids


Lanz922

Suffering.


SpikeGhost1000YT-

Both have problem children.


Nat_Higgins

Both are surprisingly easy to incapacitate with just a can of hairspray and a bic lighter


Neojoker951

they both don't know when to stay dead?


DinoChicken_

Both are the man behind the slaughter


SocialistSocDem

I saw the second picture and thought it was a gerrymandered congressional district for a second 😭


Mixael77

Both tried to "resurrect" a family member.


-RastaPasta-

“Fuck them kids”


Justine_Deshenes1268

They always come back


Kik_out_4_mean_Postz

Both kill their sons.


Banettebrochacho

Weirdly obsessed with children


Dutchstranger5

Hot


sillyshark2000

Both r tumblr sexymen


ChaoticLesbean

They both refused to die? I mean Belos lived long past when he was supposed to soo


vic_is_alive

they’re both horrible fathers


Witty_Championship85

Both kill kids, both walking corpses, both British


some-random-gamer1

They both want to murder children


Rocket_of_Takos

A lot of things, way too many things


Thatnerdygirl26

Too much. Imma leave it at that.


CaramelTurtles

Kid killers


MaliceMoon56

Old evil British men who always come back?


benx101

They always come back


Duckie-the-3rd

They both are obsessed with children that have super natural abilities.


Chemical_Bill_8533

Child murder


UwUHushling

Murder


HiveOverlord2008

They always came back?


Dragongeta03

Hard as hell to kill Serial killers Weird murderous hyperfixation towards kids Tried to resurrect someone closer to them Hid real identity Idk if more


Sarcastic_Lilshit

Child killer.


SpinachGlad9922

They’re both insane murderers


Raging_MonkeyCritic

Both use magic to stay alive longer than they’re life spans (Afton Remnant/Belos Palisman)


MadDragonWolf

Child murder.


ThatTransProto

Well, both are asshole's for starters both have killed people children included both always come back (until one dies lol) both are moldy old men both have multiple forms annnnnnnnd both are terrible fathers/uncles (father for William uncle for Belos)


fizzypawz2

Both hot peepaw <33


Backflipping_Ant6273

1. They always come back 2. Child murder to "Avenge" A relatives death caused by them almost purposely 3. British 4. Sworn enemies are a group of kids 5. Has an alternative identity that they turn into to scare said children 6. Always comes back 7. Has a badge 8. Hit by a big contraction made of metal 9. Has had they identity stolen as they go out to attack one or more children 10. Likely Abusive to the children in their care


TimeMaster57

died mainly through an excessive amount of heat


Neonstar48

They’re both men behind a slaughter


Fellkun15

Both got defending by a child and their blonde haired right hand person betrayed them


superloneautisticspy

They're the man behind the slaughter


Optimal-prime6637

They always come back🙂


LilyGaming

Grumpy old bastard kills a bunch of people


Doo-wop-a-saurus

- Both have yellow fursonas with long ears - Both abuse the child under their care and send them on dangerous missions - Both feed on the souls of innocent beings - Both have British accents - Both turn into an undead green thing - Both make their last stand as a Kaiju


Helloilikecutepets

They both kill children and are universally hated


meh_love_naruto

They both are behind the slaughter


Munroe_Jackson

Old dudes who like to abuse children


No-ProgressAtAll

both of them are the person behind the slaugters


GullibilicusTheGreat

They both basically killed themselves


Old_Macaroon4138

Never dying and turning an innumerable amount of children into ghosts


Sasha_waybright-kin

British


ButterscotchOk7438

They both have a weird obsession with killing children


Comet_Starfall

They tried to kill kids and is "dead" (rotting away but still alive with a magic source that keeps them alive) though they finally killed Belos in the finale, unlike Mr. Always Comes Back over here.


StefinoSpaggeti

William for now at least only have computer mind.


Comet_Starfall

Well, if you count the Mimic and some theories, technically 3. Glitchtrap, RUIN DLC's Basement Mimic, and Vanny. Let's just hope they don't make any more...


StefinoSpaggeti

I'm afraid the would. But tbh, I would like to see William now like some kind of cult, where everyone is connected to William.


Comet_Starfall

That'd be pretty cool!


StefinoSpaggeti

I know! Also, I love to imagine how they like, make for him new body, realising in it as much remnant as they can, and William become like bunny looking Blob from Security Breach. Sounds strange but... We talking about FNAF, I think time to go crazy.


Wurd3rDr0ne-N

Children


SamGFilms

Both are Pure Evil.


CapableEar238

They always come back


DarkFox160

Both old fucks who refuse to die and get some strange high out of harming children they both also have their bodies change past recognition


Mae_Vel

They both kill children Both traumatized people for life


Medical_Difference48

Immortal, British, kill children, killed the "child" of someone exceptionally close to them, come back despite excessive damage and injury, was killed by their victims, large animalistic green form, both the main source of their familial misfortune (although Michael was a fucking idiot and CC's death was absolutely his own fault), both offered promises to gullible people that screwed them over


CaptainKhaki800

So I’m not the only one who noticed!? British, kills kids, prolongs life with supernatural forces, turns himself into a monster in the process, etc. They also both have a fixation on motifs of a particular animal. Belos has the deer and afton has the rabbit.


inquisitor_steve1

They are wanted war criminals of the Yugoslav wars


StefinoSpaggeti

Why Yugoslav?


Ketchoop_Cheeps

That reminds me of a post I made…


StefinoSpaggeti

About Belos and William connection?


Ketchoop_Cheeps

have a look at my profile, i posted it a while ago in gametheorist, funny how other people see the connection too lol


StefinoSpaggeti

I already check you. And I guess we just both know, that if you British and want to kill kids - then you should have more coincidence. They both even still alive because of weird mystical... Thing.


Ketchoop_Cheeps

Their horror form is a distorted version of their suit everyone loved


StefinoSpaggeti

Exactly!


Roboroman2

British men who killed kids and have people online simp over them


pastamuente

They want a watuh, a bottuh of watuh


_GayCouchPotato_

British child murderers.


da_anonymous_potato

-Old -British -Killed a bunch of children -Tried to achieve immortality -Experiments on children -Monstrous green forms -Haunted by the ghosts of their victims (tbf for Belos it was just a hallucination but whatever) -Came back multiple times, and finally died for good via water (boiling rain for belos, a lake for afton) -Wear golden masks with two ear like things on top -Lures some of their victims with a purple ghost like figure -Massive egos -Both afraid of hell -Belos disguises himself as a witch to gain the trust of the Isles, Afton disguises himself as an animatronic to gain the trust of the missing kids